I havnt purchased my HTC Pure yet but I do plan on getting one. In the meantime I was curious.
Is it possible to load the HTC Sense UI from the HTC HD2 and load it on the ATT Pure?
The HTC Sense UI im talking about is the one found in this youtube vid I found on Endgadget
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/htc-hd2-gets-itself-a-promo-video-and-a-website/#continued
You would need to flash this ROM
So would that particular rom be possible on the ATT Pure? Or would hardware differences prevent it from running like its being ran on the HD2
You should be able to flash it no problem but since the Hardware Keyboard on the Pure is different from all variants of the Diamond2 then you would have to find a cab or registry tweak to change keyboard layout.
Edit: The ROM is built for Diamond2 even though it's using packages from the HD2
Pure has no hardware keyboard
The pure doesn't have a hardware keyboard, and yes, there are numerous ROMs cooked by chiefs already that have the sense UI found in the HTC Leo (aka HD2). You just have to pick one and flash away
lol what was I thinking, yes at the time of my last posting I was thinking so much of the Tilt2 as I had just placed an order for it.
Bizybone said:
lol what was I thinking, yes at the time of my last posting I was thinking so much of the Tilt2 as I had just placed an order for it.
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Yea, I have the Pure, but debating about returning it for the Tilt 2, if only for the larger screen space. But the camera on the Pure is really good compared to the Tilt 2 (5 MP vs. 3.2 MP). Oh, what to do????
it all bottoms down to whether you want a keyboard or not. if you have a phone i'm guessing you have a digital camera so you probably won't be using said phone to take studio quality photos, just quick snaps here and there. and the .4 inches in the screen also won't make a big deal. if you can type pretty well on the pure and what to save some money stick with the pure. if you are a person who prefers a physical keyboard and the price doesn't matter to you get the tilt 2.
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Hi i recenlty Sold my Iphone 3G to try a WM phone , and got the Touch HD ( since i'm a big fan of big screen s )
but after trying different Roms , i realized that the device is rather Slow ...
wanted to know if the TouchPro2 Performed faster and if anyone suggests that i should change to the Pro2 ? ( but i read in the spec of both of the Phone that their CPU and RAM are the same )
Thx in advance
yeah they are spec'd the same i believe. I found that after I ran the right ROM on my HD it felt like a completely different phone. If anything hold out for the Leo...its packing snapdragon(1GHz) and a bunch of HTC goodness.
So both TouchPro2 and Touch HD perform @ the same speed ?
528MHz
they both are running at about the same speed just optimized differently...you can find a bunch of Topaz and Rhodium styled ROM's out there
TP is a great device!
if you can change to the tp2 without it costing much i would do that because of the keyboard (I have touch hd), you will go down a bit on screen size whichw ill be a shame and I dont think tp2 has a 3.5 mm jack out which is just stupid but anyway yeah I would try the tp2 for the keyboard.
for speed I would first try out the topaz rom I havent found another rom that seems so speedy 100s of times better than stock. Having a speedy rom really makes you appreciate your phone a lot more.
u mean i can flash any topaz rom to the Blackstone and i'll have a more speedy phone ?
sorry i didnt mean topaz i ment topix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
its wm6.1 but its just great
IMHO, i dont think the tp 2 will perform any better than the HD. Of course the keyboard maybe useful, but the HD is thinner and sexier
If you can hold out for the Leo (i want one now!!!) but who knows when it will be released........
As for HD roms, obviously the newer roms (6.5 either 2.1 or 2.5) are beta, due to not being released by MS yet, hence some may have issues/bugs. But dont dispear, they are getting quicker and more stable. Try any newer ones from Dutty, NRGZ or Miri or if you want the very latest try the new build from PDAVIET.
They are all better than the current stock rom, I personally love the 2.5 has a couple of bugs, but we are getting there.
The TP2 is cool, but if U can wait then the Leo will be much cooler
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The TP2 is cool, but if U can wait then the Leo will be much cooler
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although the leo dosent have a kepboard which is why i wont be getting it, I love my touch hd but ive had enough with a purely touch screen phone. I'm waiting on an android phone that has good processor capacitive screen (large high res) and keyboard or i might just get the nokia n900
maybe they will release a leo pro with a keyboard then I might consider it.
good luck, from what ive seen Android isnt taking off like everyone though it would. None of the carriers seem to keen on supporting it. Tho i did see a topic on PPC where they are dual booting WM phones and running Android on them
The Leo does look pretty sweet, but i agree, it needs a keyboard. It will have a capacitive touchscreen, and 3.5mm jack tho (along with the snapdragon processor) Just add a keyboard and we have ourselves a dam near perfect device. So long as its configured/optimized properly.
It kinda makes me sad, that they announced this after i got my TP2, but its bound to happen. As soon as they release the Leo (whenever that will be) couple months after, a new, better device will be announced. Thats the tech world for ya.
As for the Touch Pro 2, yea ive noticed it does lag sometimes. Tho i haven't installed any custom roms either, which may likely help it (to date, i don't know of any roms specifically for it). Im also a bit worried about bricking this thing while trying.
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good luck, from what ive seen Android isnt taking off like everyone though it would. None of the carriers seem to keen on supporting it. Tho i did see a topic on PPC where they are dual booting WM phones and running Android on them
The Leo does look pretty sweet, but i agree, it needs a keyboard. It will have a capacitive touchscreen, and 3.5mm jack tho (along with the snapdragon processor) Just add a keyboard and we have ourselves a dam near perfect device. So long as its configured/optimized properly.
It kinda makes me sad, that they announced this after i got my TP2, but its bound to happen. As soon as they release the Leo (whenever that will be) couple months after, a new, better device will be announced. Thats the tech world for ya.
As for the Touch Pro 2, yea ive noticed it does lag sometimes. Tho i haven't installed any custom roms either, which may likely help it (to date, i don't know of any roms specifically for it). Im also a bit worried about bricking this thing while trying.
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it's way too early to say they haven't taken off. The problem so far is that a good android device hasn't been released yet. The experia x3 looks nice similar specs to leo but a much better camera, still no keyboard though .
I have a Touch Pro. It's great.
If I was buying now, i'd buy a TP2.
Capacitive screen = DO NOT WANT (give me a stylus or give me death!)
If you're not into trying custom roms I found that even some of the tweaks or Registry Hacks would speed up the phone a bit. Personally I didn't like the Touch Flow and turned it all off in favor of just the plain WinMo look (modded a bit of course). Additionally I turned off the HTC Dialer Skin and used the WinMo dialer that was running on avg about 8m less in memory and was just as functional (minus the reject call w/ txt functionality).
Out of the box my phone had program memory usage up in 38-43% range. Now it's typically 21-28% and running much faster in my opinion.
Thanks everyone for ur time and answer.
Maybe this phone exists somewhere but if so, I haven't found it - and not for lack of searching. It all started with a 2007 Shadow. I loved the slim size and slide-out form factor, could live with WinMo if I had to but hated the 2.0 mp camera and non-touch screen.
I've tried the Incite, the Kaiser and currently use a G1 for day to day but none of them made me as happy as my Shadow. Part of it's because if I need to make a call I don't like the touch screen dialer. Another factor is the Blackberry-like keyboard arrangement on the Shadow - I really liked it. (I could never master texting using the usual numeric keys.) It's too cumbersome to pop out the G1 or Tilt keyboard, especially dealing with stupid automated phone systems.
I like HTC phones a lot because of the community but am beginning to wonder if somewhere out there is a phone better suited for me. I'd like to stay in the Android fold but does anyone have any suggestions? Has to be GSM and unlockable because I use a weird local carrier, too, although I might consider going back to Sprint (gag) for the perfect phone.
Terry
The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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The Palm Pre might suit you...although there is always more to get out your device when you are running WinMo or Android on an HTC device. WebOS is fantastic but you're stuck with what they give you.
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I played with a Pre at a local kiosk and was impressed by how nice it was but not enough better than the G1 to go back to Sprint. Now if the GSM version becomes more affordable and available, maybe...
Thanks,
Terry - now if I could just do a camera transplant on a touch dual
It would be something like this:
VGA 4" screen
From factor like HTC Universal
2ghz processor
1gb RAM
Hardware keyboard
Slim nice design
Made by HTC
A mix of Universal, Rhodium and Leo
I guess I have to wait till 2011 or 2012...
I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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I remember reading that android was working quite well on the HTC Nike a while back. That's the same slide format as the shadow.
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It is so very close, but I'm spoiled by the ability to do bar code scanning with the G1. AFAIK, the 2.0 cameras can't do that - which is why I made the comment about the camera transplant. I guess I could look into the port a little closer to see if they made it work or not.
Terry
hey everyone, well im on the stretch for hopefully getting a new phone, question is, which device will be very worth upgrading from my FUZE?
Telstra HTC HD2(with AT&T 3G bands) or HTC Tilt 2
would be best if actual owners can help me out but everyone can give their input as well
[main question]what device has a better battery life??
will the HD2 be able to handle at least 5 hours of music playback since it will substitute for my ipod? or will the tilt 2 have a better advantage?
and how well is it to type on the HD2s screen compare to Tilt 2's hardware keyboard?
finally if possible please tell me what advantages & disadvantages do both of these devices have
money is NOT a factor here and im still keeping up with WinMo btw
looking forward to reading everyones answers thanks
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and how well is it to type on the HD2s screen compare to Tilt 2's hardware keyboard?
im still keeping up with WinMo btw
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Coming form Raphael, the natural upgrade will be Rhodium, a great device!
Leo have bigger screen and faster processor.
Rhodium have a real keyboard and multiconference (more buissness device)
On my opinion, typing on a real hardware keyboard will never beaten by any super multi capacity, ultra resisitive, super dooper on screen virtual keyboard (at least in a while)
Same here, staying with WM also, it´s a hate-love relation
I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?
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I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?
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How is this even a question?!lol Incredible of course! The processor on that bad boy is worth it! and the camera, and the screen, and the phone itself,plus itll get rooted very soon so custom ROMs will be flooding the incredible forum!
I have a TP2 and love it but trust me...Android is the way to go orrrrr, a TMO HD2
Well leebsammy it is all personal choice of course, but it seems like you want to stick on the Android side of things... My vote would be for the Incredible, and that not only comes from the fact that it is natively an Android based device... Specification-wise it trumphs every aspect of the Rhodium.
On that note I went from a Tilt 2 (TP2) to a Nexus One, and while I was/still am a huge Windows Mobile junkie... I will not be returning, it was great, but Android is so much more up to my speed. I like multimedia, ease of use, and sheer functionality. While the TP2 was a great phone, I felt the hardware was a little dated, and having it in a nice Body Glove case, I was upset when I'd run out of RAM and have to pull it all the way out in order to soft reset. On the upside that keyboard was AWESOME! However, being on the Nexus One - Swype has more than made up for its lack of a keyboard, and the Snapdragon processor has never gotten bogged down. Mind you I have never had an HTC phone and kept it stock, but the Nexus is actually very nice as-is and as such I haven't done anything to it, other than install applications!
And also if you bought a TP2 with the intention of running Android, it was not nearly mature enough for daily use on my GSM model.
So like I said my vote go for the Incredible, and I don't think you you will be disappointed.
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I'm currently a Verizon Wireless Customer. I have my NE2 and can get the TP2 for $50 or the Incredible for $170. I'm looking for recommendations. I'm coming from the Droid Eris which was given to me as a gift. I loved android with Sense UI. I know that the TP2 has WM 6.1 or 6.5 but can boot android 2.1 with Sense UI now as well. with limitations. I like that the TP2 is highly customizable with various different roms to choose from. Also, Having a hardware keyboard would be nice to use again. I've only heard perfect things about the TP2's keyboard... The incredible has clearly newer technology with Android 2.1 with Sense UI fully working. I'm sure the phone will eventually be rooted and henceforth also very customizable. I know the specs of both phones. Based on everything including the difference in price, what are your recommendations?
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Rhodium all the time!!!
I prefer to have a REAL keyboard then better specs
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Well leebsammy it is all personal choice of course, but it seems like you want to stick on the Android side of things... My vote would be for the Incredible, and that not only comes from the fact that it is natively an Android based device... Specification-wise it trumphs every aspect of the Rhodium.
On that note I went from a Tilt 2 (TP2) to a Nexus One, and while I was/still am a huge Windows Mobile junkie... I will not be returning, it was great, but Android is so much more up to my speed. I like multimedia, ease of use, and sheer functionality. While the TP2 was a great phone, I felt the hardware was a little dated, and having it in a nice Body Glove case, I was upset when I'd run out of RAM and have to pull it all the way out in order to soft reset. On the upside that keyboard was AWESOME! However, being on the Nexus One - Swype has more than made up for its lack of a keyboard, and the Snapdragon processor has never gotten bogged down. Mind you I have never had an HTC phone and kept it stock, but the Nexus is actually very nice as-is and as such I haven't done anything to it, other than install applications!
And also if you bought a TP2 with the intention of running Android, it was not nearly mature enough for daily use on my GSM model.
So like I said my vote go for the Incredible, and I don't think you you will be disappointed.
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Thanks a lot for you're suggestions. I appreciate all of you guys input. You're probably right about me wanting to stay with android. Having a Droid eris however, i hated having such a short battery life.. The incredible has the same battery as the eris. i can't imagine that the snapdragon and extra ram would do anything but drain it's life even more. I've heard that the TP2 can get through a full day with heavy useage. also having the availability of android and wm would be nice. if the developers could get sound working for android for TP2; i wouldn't have an issue running it most of the time. I could still run swype on the tp2 for portrait mode, and use the hw keyboard in landscape. besides texting, i really only use the browser and a few apps. gmail/ pandora. The lower price of the TP2 also would be nicer to my wallet...
Hey, I've been looking on the Diamond2 on different sites where they sell used ones, it seems to be a cheaper version of HTC Hero but with WM 6.1/6.5, same processor, same RAM, camera and similar displays.
So I've been thinking of getting one and install XDAndroid (Which I had on my HTC Touch Diamond too) since its being updated and seem to be more and more stable, but I need your opinions first
XDAndroid on TD2 is not ready for general use at all in my opinion. Its quite slow and has to run off sd card, so you can't use it. For me it tends to freeze or just has horrible lag, not sure which. It also seems to mess up WM when I boot back up into it, but that might have just been a one off.
However, if you are at all into WM, you will find a very capable phone. But if all you want is android, I would say no deal. Not yet anyway. If you want android, go for an android phone.
ok because I saw the XDAndroid thread and they said they had fixed those problems with the latest rootfs and zimage, and I guess its as fast as XDAndroid on Touch Diamond?
I havent actually used XDAndroid on Touch Diamond so I can't compare speed. But the fact that the camera isn't working and it cant be installed to rom is really the only reason I haven't switched. Plus they say the battery life isn't the best but I can't confirm since I havn't really used it for any period of time.
If you are used to how it runs on TD you may not find it any different. But I will still stand by my previous statement in that if you want android, get an android phone.
i have used XDANDROID on my diamond 2 for a few weeks, its ok, still not stable enough and too many issues to be used daily,
if you want to use android on a daily basis and have full functionality then i have to agree with LordVarkson, as there are way too many issues with android on TD2
although WM on the diamond 2 is really stable and works very well and is more than capable of running HTC sense (in fact HTC released a stock rom with sense on it )
ok thanks for the answers
the problem is the price, a HTC Hero cost about $300 and the Diamond2 $180, that I have to pay more for a free os feels, well, what the f*ck, but true true, Android works way better on Hero than on Diamond2 but is it worth the price? Since WM feels old fashion but its cooler with a phone with Android that not many others have. I will look for a cheap Hero if I can find one though, but my economy isn't very good since I can't get a job (too young)
Yes, I understand you problem. Before I could work, I just scraped together money from whatever I could do, and bought second had of sites like ebay. If you are sure to get from a reputable seller, they aren't that bad.
I´ve owned a Diamond 2 and can say it´s a great device, never got any problem.
Of course after getting rid of the stock ROM and flashed with one from XDA
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I´ve owned a Diamond 2 and can say it´s a great device, never got any problem.
Of course after getting rid of the stock ROM and flashed with one from XDA
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Today I decided to test my custom rom compared to a stock TD2 in the shops. I was devestated when the stock rom outperformed my high speed titanium rom. It was really fast, opening messaging in a second max, where my device took as long as 3 seconds to open