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Now I'm not a mobile phone maker, but i do consider my self an active proponent of the Android Community. But there is one question that bothers me why don't phone manufacturers make a beast above all phone.
Now there are quite a few big players when it comes to Android phone manufacturers such as HTC, Samsung, Motorola, and LG those are the companies that i consider to be the TOP dogs (whether you choose to agree or not). Ok each company is known for certain things
HTC: Originally the most innovative of the bunch now in my opinion LG is becoming the most innovative, HTC builds excellent phone case-wise i personally prefer to have a heavier/thicker metal/plastic hybrid versus a plastic cheap a*s case that Samsung loves to use, HTC adopted the android OS first with the G1, you may not have noticed it but, HTC has rolled out the first LTE phone for all of the USA's major cell companies so far Sprint-EvO 4G, T-Mobile-G2 and MyTouch 4G, Verizon-Thunderbolt, and At&T-Inspire 4G, last time i checked there isn't any other manufacturer that can claim that they did that, HTC released the first pure 100% google experience with the Nexus One, and even if you didn't release it that phone was and still is a beast of a phone it is based off of the HTC Desire but it sported a great AMOLED screen, 1 GHz Qualcomm QSD 8250 Snapdragon ARM(which was the bomb). The great majority of HTC's phones have came pre-installed with the newest Firmware rather it be 2.1 or 2.2(they havent released a phone with 2.3 yet but non of the manufactures have yet right?(excluding the Nexus S). HTC although they utilize their own skin on top of Android OS called Sense UI and although i have never purchased a HTC phone i've always wanted one for this single reason it is by far the best manufactures skin when compared with MOTOBLUR, TouchWIz, and idk what LG's is called i do believe its LG Star ui but im not sure. And the biggest problem with Android is phones getting supported and HTC in my opinion upgrades the greater majority of its phones @ least once and usually in a timely manner thats something that Samsung cant say and Mototola definitely cant say now for LG they just recently stepped into the ball game so only time will tell.
Samsung- Just stepped into the real ball game with their Galaxy S devices now their devices are great hardware wise with their super ultra sexy Super Amoled screens and soon to have Super Amoled plus screens they sport those lovely Hummingbird Proccesors, but they had a huge dowfall they were released with the already old 2.1 Eclair update when the 2.1 froyo had already been out for sometime which imo is stupid and lazy they also put on top of their phones the most disgusting and horrendous skin their Touch Wiz which is horrible but meh i guess the product sells. There biggest downfall is not supporting phones such as their failed Behold 2 which didn't see a upgrade over 1.6. Their Galaxy S devices just recently began to receive updates to the Vibrant and the Evo 4G began to get its 2.2 but i guess it was recalled, Fascinate no update still on 2.1, Captivate i believe it has received its update but non the less thats ridiculous to wait so long for an update that should have been there already. Their phones are great but software not so great very simple.
LG-Very little is known about LG besides they have quite a few of great high ed phones coming very soon and their midrange Optimus One line is very impressive as a mid range phone at least.
Motorola(lol i accidently forgot them)- Moto well what to say they stepped into the Android game with the release of the Moto Cliq which was by far one of the worst phones ever imo how do u release a phone for $200 and then a month later release a phone with way superior specs the original Moto Droid for the same price if not cheaper some places and then call the 2 phones equals thats insanity the Moto CLiq was released with 1.5 which was donut i believe then was upgraded to 1.6 cupcake were it stayed at forever it was completely tied down with Motoblur if you hate motoblur now hows it is on the DRoid X it ws completely worst on the cliq and the worst part was the locked bootloader so very few roms existed for the Cliq and even the roms couldnt remove the Blur their was one exception the Eclair2CLiq rom which was great but stopped getting support so it was never finished anyways. Motorola has always been about the money im positive that it has a contract with Verizon because verizon has always gotten their high end sh*t Droid Droid2 Droid X and now the Xoom while the other companies have gotten the worst phones possible T-mobile: Defy, Cliq, Cliq XT, Cliq 2, and that one phone thats just a rectangle looking blackberry thing, and 1 more cant think of name either. At&T: had the crappy blackflip then they got the cool a*s Atrix. So Moto is always a hit or miss in my eyes i will never buy from moto because they tie their phones down wayyy 2 much if its not on Verizon and now At&T. Sprint doesnt even have a Moto phone thats android. Moto also has the dreaded bootloader locks which makes the already crappy phone even crappier and if its a good phone it makes it so you cant root or even if you can root it wont be a full root experience like Overclocking and CM7 etc.
So for now IMO HTC owns all by a football field to be honest
Now to my main question why doesn't a company say hey we can make a great phone that has all the features people wont and it will be great and sell well and everything we can put it on all carriers like the Galaxy S devices and the Optimus V/M/S/T/C/and anymore i forgot.
I personally would like to find in my found @ minimum 16 GB of internal memory(like the Samsung Vibrant/Nexus S), A kickstand (just like the HTC Thunderbolt and Evo 4G), A HDMI out connector, 720p recording capabilites, a 8mp camera @ bare minimum, 4G radios depending on the Carrier, a decent stock battery ie 1800 MaH or even 2000 MaH something decent, a lovely screen size better yet make 2 different choices for screens 4" and 4.3" thats the best 2 sizes imo, you can make a slider version for those slider people, come with a dual core proccesor of some sort rather it be Tegra, Hummingbird, Qualcomm, TI, or whatever else is out their, Come pre-installed with @ least 16gb SD CARD, come preloaded with the newest most recent Android update even if you use your skin ie Sense @ least make a separate partion on the phone that the User can flash or make an App similar to Rom Manager yet make it wayyyyy easier to utilize but make it so you can run a completely stock version of Android, come with a decent loud speaker not these tiny lite baby ones like the Galazy S and Nexus S devices im talking about ones like the Thunderbolt or LG's optimus devices(they have great speakers), come with NFC just for the hell of it, strong vibrate, stop using these crappy screens WVGA etc only use SAMOLED/PLUS or since samsung doesn't have enough for their own product even you can use the next best thing avaialbe which is qHD or that Super Clear LCD/PLUS, these are really not that big of demands to find in a phone they're actual very simple please take a look into it and tell me if this is to hard to find in a phone?
Price and affordability and compactness. For a device to feature all that, it'd be ridiculously expensive, probably >€1000 sim free. Also, to fit all that in a phone, you'd have to carry an absolute brick in your pocket. Unfeasable as of yet.
There's no point in making a single, killer handset because you that would mean you'd stop innovating and that leads to stagnation.
Nokia effectively had the killer phone for years - 90% of people I knew would have a variant of the basic Nokia handset (they varied in size but the features were the same) - and look what happened there...
You have to remember that people have a wide variety of needs too -not everyone wants a $400 'does everything' handset - there's still people who don't even text!!
I could've sworn sprint had a low end motorola i1 android phone?
Timing and market drive some development but alot of development is a function of when to release to maximize profit. Then, you start providing horizontal integration that is: to provide X then add X+1 then X+2 etc. That way they can sell you the phone at a discount once you are hooked then they sell you all the update @ retail....... ergo more profit. Sucks, but that the American way !
It's not a feasible business model to put out one killer phone and forget about it.
At the moment the scale goes from Dumbphone, few features but great battery life -> Smartphone, feature filled, crappy battery life.
Build a phone with every possible feature and you'd need to carry a generator around with you.
@ OP
lol, dude you are very naive.
Eh, I may dislike android but some of your info is a bit off. For instance the Cliq actually did see a 2.1 update which goes to show they may not be the absolute worst when it comes to updating devices. Samsung takes that cake in my opinion. The Cliq also wasn't too much lesser than the droid, the droid was just in a much fancier casing. Manufacturers would not make a perfect phone because then they would have a pinnacle issue. People would only be going for that phone and all other phones would be ignored including the OEM's other endeavors. Not to mention there is no device that would fit everyone. Your device may sound perfect to you but to me it holds all the issues that leave android lacking in my opinion so they release multiple devices to appease the masses.
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So for now IMO HTC owns all by a football field to be honest
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I have felt this way too, especially validated by fact that I have bought 5 in a row HTC smartphones ---
(1) way way back: WindowsMobile > T-Mobile MDA
(2) way back: WindowsMobile > T-Mobile Wing
(3) 2 years back: Android: HTC Hero (actually bought 2 of them, liked it so much)
(4) 1 year ago: Android: HTC Desire (worked flawlessly til about 3 months ago where a problematic USB port surfaced - later found out thru web searches that its sister model, the Sprint Evo, had this problem like CRAZY, and tons of returns and warranty replacements -- however, HTC in my case is NOT HONORING THE WARRANTY)
(5) 3 months ago: Android: myTouch 4G (HTC Glacier) --- this is a kickass phone that I still believe is very underrated because of its branding with T-Mobile) but has more internal memory to hold more apps than even nexus s
However ....
HTC America is really screwing up the BRAND REPUTATION of HTC overall. They are not only completely disorganized, but if anyone has ever called their tech suppoort, they are generally clueless, reading off of LCD screens worse that AT&T phone support -- and that's saying a lot, you can't get any worse than AT&T level 1 Support, they define "HORRIBLE CLUELESS SCRIPT-READING CUSTOMER SERVICE". But that is nothing compared to trying to get WARRANTY REPAIR WORK done by HTC AMERICA. My phone is under 1 year old, with a 2 year warranty for defective parts & labor, and yet HTC AMERICA says I am out of warranty and to fix this defective USB port --- again -- just google MICRO USB PORT HTC DESIRE ... or EVO and you can't miss it... and HTC America says they are happy to repair it for $ 317.43 .
So, I tell you what, this is having a serious impact on my next purchase. I don't have time for this bull****. And they could give a rat's ass about my customer loyalty. I've been buying HTC phones longer than the majority of their goons have even been employed there. You ask someone "Oh, how long have you been with HTC?" And you're lucky if you get "2 years".... Me -- more like 7 years. I don;t expect first line phone support to have such tenure. But when they are complete idiots...
(SEE MY THREAD FOR ACTUAL DIALOGUE AND you'll understand my statement)
... I'm sorry but this goes to overall management of a global corporation. And in this hyper-competitive space, if they don't clean up their act, they may not survive. That's not an overstatement. I thought that, with this site having formed around the HTC "XDA" all these years ago, and HTC having been ahead of the curve all these years, and they kept Windows Mobile alive by innovations like TouchFlo etc which compensated for WinMo's 6pt type size and stylus UI after the iPhone debuted, that they were probably the #1 smartphone device maker. I just assumed that.
Someone can pull the stats, but no, I was shocked to find out at the end of 2010, the pivotal year where Android just exploded -- starting with Oct 2009's Moto DROID launch, then Jan's NEXUS 1 launch -- then phone after phone in 2010, and so many HTC models, that HTC's marketshare as device maker was TINY -- fractional ... It shocked me.
So, I'm just saying... They launched their multi-million dollar "YOU" BRANDING CAMPAIGN last year I'm sure to help propel the name HTC into the brains of people who had used HTC products for many years, but many times they were co-branded by carrier names for those phones, and most average consumers weren't even aware the name HTC .... and yet their share is so small. Well, if they treat EXISTING LONG-TIME CUSTOMERS this way, they will erode their existing base. And why would I have any further brand loyalty?
Samsung is making great stuff, so is Motorola. The next device i get will be a tablet. After that, I will NOT be upgrading and buying new phones every year or 2... They will have reached a point of diminishing returns.
So, HTC better clean up their act in America or it's 再见 new phone.
you are right but that phone was for boost mobile
You seem to be quite rich
why dont you buy me a high end phone i really really need one . but i cant afford damnit!
Technology evolves
I think one you call beast today will not be a beast tomorrow.
Again phone manufacturer has to keep price in mind.
HTC is not even close to owning the whole football field.
Besides an unlocked bootloader which is changing now they are nothing special.
Every phone looks the same with minimal difference in specs.
All these companies cater to a wide range of people so thus why no one super mega phone.
Best is relative to time. What may be the best today may not be the the best tomorrow.
The best phone is already the G2
Kailkti said:
Best is relative to time. What may be the best today may not be the the best tomorrow.
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The best today is definitely NOT the best tomorrow. Nothing will ever be the best.
Not to mention that the OP's 'best phone' doesn't equal to another person's 'best'.
Agreed, a 1ghz processor will be laughed at in the next 2 years or so.
Whaddup dual core?
and it's only gonna get better
they already made a phone with quad core and 5 inch screen lol o hate to big screens though.
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Post is a year old mate.
Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
The problem I have is dev. Work.. seems like they waiting on the att/other phone company version to drop. But I to will get the sgsII(atain.)
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
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Since the GS2 does work on at&t's "4g" network and can be had with a warranty for as little as 750$ shipped anyone else trying to decide what phone to go with?
I have a inspire and infuse currently. I was thinking about selling the infuse for 500$ and the inspire for 300$ (already have buyers) and picking up a GS2 buuuut after talking to a XDA member who sold his GS2 for a infuse I'm starting to think I will just keep the Infuse and pocket the cash from the inspire sell.
Dual core sounds neat but I would rather have a 1.8oc'd single core (I think anyway ) The biggest selling point on the gs2 for me is the additional memory. I got spoiled with the infuse and the large available memory with cm7 and am already maxing out my infuse's 512 with just the widgets and apps I had before.
My inspire feels "small" screen real estate wise now compared to the infuse so not excited about going back to 4.3....
Anyone else considering these phones? What is your thought process on comparing the two?
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if you want that clock speed then plan on keeping the inspire. not that it would preform 1.8 times as good or that you will feel the need for the infuse to go over 1.4.
i havent seen a hummingbird go over 1.6 yet. i have seen snapdragons do it though. now the hummingbird processes media and open gl exremely fast and im not sure a snapdragon really competes no matter how fast it is clocked, except for floating point where snapdragon chips rule.
I have an Infuse but I'll be giving it to another family member and buying a GS2 when it becomes available on AT&T as the Attain.
The infuse is a nice refresh phone, but is pathetic seeing how some people think its worth $500 let alone $600.
If you think inspire at 4.3 is small, galaxy s2 at 4.27 is even smaller, it looks like 4 inches!
I just use my phone for emails, gps, Internet, and phone calls. Do I really need dual core for that. Haha
At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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At least one dev will make it over sooner or later I'm not to worried about that. I was (wishfully probably) thinking the infuse's 1.2ghz was maybe "binned" higher versions and could lead to better overclocks.
I have been with At&t for 7 years and my gut tells me we wont be able to purchase the Attain until September at the earliest. I might be wrong but we got our first glimpse of the infuse almost 6 months! ago, we still don't have that for the Attain. The press release everyone was expecting more information got pushed back from the 24th with no reschedule date.
I almost just pulled the trigger on a gs2 but here comes netnerd again with his infuse propaganda!
My inspire screen does seem small compared to the infuse now, its ruined me.....
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well the chip may be better quality than the sgs, but there is no indication that it is a different part number. i would think there are more infuses that can hit 1.4 that sgs's, maybe more that can hit 1.6 but im not sure we will see much more than that. many sgs's have trouble at 1300. ifmy infuse goes to 1.6 id be stoked but im not expecting it.
as far as the attain, well there should have been a conference today to annouce new products presumably. it is the same day that they announced the sgs line for america, so it that pattern holds true we will know very soon when it is released and it may come as soon as july.
As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
I chose the Infuse over the Galaxy S2 mostly for the huge screen, and the fact that I didn't feel like waiting for the GS2's release date. I'm concerned about dual core phones overheating while charging, and also that supporting dual cores would have a negative impact on battery life.
The G2S's benchmark results were impressive, however. A tiny part of me wishes that I'd have waited it out. A tiny, insignificant part. The infuse is awesome.
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As little as $700.
Wow, you guys must be swimming in money.
What i dont get it, why everyone needs the dual core and extra memory? I mean the infuse runs very fast stock from the factory. Very smooth i think, and i am coming from an apple phone.
But hey, if you just have to have the latest and greatest i can understand.
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my feelings exactly. i loved the captivate but felt i wanted a change. i often felt jeleous of the 4.3"phone screens but couldnt stand the black levels of many phones afer having a captivate. didnt like the captivates screen because the subpixel layout is funky and makes small text less readable, now i like the infues after getting used to the size, hope that feeling lasts. the sgs2 is great but i dont know if thereis a really significant advantage to it. the audio is not great, the graphics processing is only marginally improved, if i get a dual core it will likely be a tablet that needs some extra power to support greater screen resolution. but so far the ipad2 is the only one that actually raised the bar with graphics processing. ill wait a while for something new, or get a phone with qhd or better resolution and high contrast ratio.
Dani897 said:
and it may come as soon as july.
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I will literally eat my shoe if that happens , we still cant even buy the att nexus s thats been on ebay for months.
700$ isn't chump change or anything but when you can get 500$ for infuse its only 200$ more.
At the end of the day after messing with memory management and doing a few galaxy s fixes (ill post what worked and didnt in a new thread) Im going to hold onto the infuse.
Is there a date for the GS2
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Is there a date for the GS2
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The Europe/Asia model is out and can be purchased online for around 750-800$ with a warranty. The GSM unit will work great on ATT's 3g and "4g".
The US model has been announced (the name anyway) but we haven't seen the device or been given a time frame. Personally I think September will be the earliest we will be able to purchase this phone but other think as soon as july.
Okay, so. I was thinking today, and came to a funny realization.
When did SemiAccurate say that 28nm process production was shut down?
Mid-February.
When was the One X/S/XL announced?
February 29th.
When was the release window?
Within 60 days of the announcement at Mobile World Congress.
NOW. Here's my logic.
HTC is at this point, an extremely large customer of TSMC. They are going to be using tens of thousands of chips they are manufacturing in their phones. Production was "halted" in mid-February. That means it would have been on a long bit before MWC. Being a fairly large customer, I'm relatively sure at some point HTC would have been alerted were there a major production failure. Consequently, HTC wouldn't have announced the 'One' line to be released so soon.
That's my logic, take it how you want, and I may have overlooked something and be completely wrong, but hey. Why not share?
Ohh, I was under the impression that this was a very recent and potentially still occurring shutdown. Where did you read that it was in February. If this is true then yes, we should still see the phone stateside in April-May...which is kind of what I have been saying regardless of the scenario. Early-mid April would be sweet though...I guess we'll see
"So lets analyze and hopefully narrow the possibilities. This is based on what we know about how the processes and technology works, not based on leaks. We will assume that production stopped in mid-February, and all three variants including both high and low power processes, High-K and non-High-K are down. Even if the low power variant of 28nm is still running, it does not affect the analysis below."
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wow...to me that article sounds off the worst...if production hasnt even started again then we might be in trouble...unless they manufactured all the HTC chips for initial shipment before the shutdown which is HIGHLY unlikely. doesn't sound good...I may just grab a note now...
First, before you do that take into account that SemiAccurate is the only site that is even remotely assuming this is true. Every other site in the fabrication world has nothing of it. Even the most popular ones.
The reason I posted this topic was to hopefully dispel the ideas that this is actually true, hence calling bollocks. It would be a HORRIBLE marketing decision for HTC to announce the XL to be released within 60 days of MWC if they knew they could not reach that demand due to the TSMC shutdown.
ALSO.
If there was a shutdown at TSMC, it was because of High-Power processes. These high-power processes are going in graphics cards, like that of Nvidia and AMD. If you're in tune with the computer world, the 7970 from AMD is having problems with rapid degradation. There's a possibility that the problem is only affecting high power processes like that.
Fingers crossed that I'm correct and the TSMC shutdown is invalid or is at least not affecting our phone.
thanks for the clarification...while I am aware of intel's low and high voltage processor differences in the computer world, I did not realize the snapdragon's 28nm chip was on a separate line than some of the other high voltage 28nm processors for other applications. This makes all the sense in the world. Like you said, the fact that there is no official mention of this problem anywhere but a single site has to be an indicator that the the problem is localized and should not affect a wide range of products. I am gonna wait for the HTC press conference, supposedly scheduled for the near future...that should clarify a lot. it's just the "waiting in the dark" part that hurts!
I'm so impatient it literally hurts. I'm stuck on a Palm Pre until the One X comes out and quite honestly, it's the dumbest smartphone i've ever experienced.
Yeah, when is the supposed HTC press conference for the One X anyways? I heard it might be in NY next month? Are there any rumors or evidence to back this up??? I might have to just get the Vivid if the One X takes so long!!??
I don't know any concrete info on that, just the rumors floating around that it is next month in NY.
The only phone that could keep me away from the One X right now is the Note. But I am gonna wait to see the reviews from the international version which be hitting websites any day now...The phone is identical and the performance of the dual core krait will be nearly the same, some even think better. I just want to hear about general battery life, camera, etc etc...
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I don't know any concrete info on that, just the rumors floating around that it is next month in NY.
The only phone that could keep me away from the One X right now is the Note. But I am gonna wait to see the reviews from the international version which be hitting websites any day now...The phone is identical and the performance of the dual core krait will be nearly the same, some even think better. I just want to hear about general battery life, camera, etc etc...
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I've heard a few whispers about it as well. I hope they do have one, and release some hard info, possibly on the effect of the shutdown be it true.
Unless you look at the note, and love the way it feels in your hand, don't get it. It's only going to be antiquated by the One X as soon as you actually pick it up. The S4 and Adreno 225 are miles over the Snapdragon 8255T and Adreno 205 that are in the Note. It's just a bad buy overall at this point unless you're in love with the screen size. Other than the stylus, it's already antiquated technology. As is the GS2 at this point.
Press Conference Info: http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/20/sprint-and-htc-announce-collaboration-event-in-nyc-on-april-4th/
It's very disturbing to see that Sprint and HTC are getting together for an event before AT&T does!
yeah I am gonna read that...maybe because they already announced the ATT version..?
I am one of the few who is actually attracted by the stylus...but alas, you can't have it all- its always the case, and seems especially true with phones. the note should have come with a newer processor and ICS...the only thing holding me back from getting it is the old S3 in it. anyhow, and I will use the car dock with the X a lot and see it being a very very nice device overall. have owned a samsung captivate (said I would never buy samsung again), and now my Motorola Atrix (I love moto). It only makes sense that I try out the other "big" phone manufacturer before I start owning up to some brand loyalty
I owned an HTC Aria, and it was a mediocre, middle of the road crappy tiny android phone. It was well built, it was just not powerful enough for me.
I moved up to a Samsung Captivate, and I loved it, (once getting MIUI on it, I was deeply infatuated).
I don't like motorola honestly, but I haven't extensively used any android phone of theirs.
I wasn't too confident about going back to HTC considering the problems a lot of their flagship phones have, but I have a good feeling about the One X. That could just be my hope talking though.
I write really long winded replies, I apologize.
btdubs, if it weren't for the fact that the stylus is a wacom stylus, I would have no interest, but it seems awesome.
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I owned an HTC Aria, and it was a mediocre, middle of the road crappy tiny android phone. It was well built, it was just not powerful enough for me.
I moved up to a Samsung Captivate, and I loved it, (once getting MIUI on it, I was deeply infatuated).
I don't like motorola honestly, but I haven't extensively used any android phone of theirs.
I wasn't too confident about going back to HTC considering the problems a lot of their flagship phones have, but I have a good feeling about the One X. That could just be my hope talking though.
I write really long winded replies, I apologize.
btdubs, if it weren't for the fact that the stylus is a wacom stylus, I would have no interest, but it seems awesome.
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The Inspire was fantastic, only real issue is the small battery and the GPS not being insanely accurate and quick. The Vivid was good, but came too late and the phone doesn't really have a lot of development.
I think my issue is the way that sense bogged down the whole experience. Give me a One XL with stock ICS and holy crap you've got a dead ringer for my favorite phone ever.
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I think my issue is the way that sense bogged down the whole experience. Give me a One XL with stock ICS and holy crap you've got a dead ringer for my favorite phone ever.
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I'm guessing the One XL will be rootable/flashable on day one if HTC made sure to get their HTCDev unlocks together at launch.
Yeah, it's already got a root method out and such but then again any phone with an unlocked bootloader can be rooted.
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It's very disturbing to see that Sprint and HTC are getting together for an event before AT&T does!
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You should put into consideration that when they announced the htc one series at the event and said the phone will be release globally in April and showed AT&T and tmobile being the only USA carriers, that they do need there own release event.
I dont care about Sprint I care about at&t
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Yeah, it's already got a root method out and such but then again any phone with an unlocked bootloader can be rooted.
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Dude, we can't tell people enough. It is only a temp root at this point.
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Hi, I was just wondering if I could get the communities opinion. The Samsung Galaxy S III was recently unveiled, and is soon to hit store shelves in Europe, as many people know. What I want the communities opinion on, is whether or not I should get it. I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S II, and am locked to a 2 year contract. By the time I'm able to upgrade, the S IV will be available. And while I can have the patience to wait for it, I'm currently in a hole of stupidity. I want this phone BAD. Bad enough that I would consider pre-ordering the unlocked version (which the only way it would be usable is if it is unlocked) just to have it, and also to be one of the first in North America. But my common sense/logic, which is battling my stupidity in a stand still war tells me to wait for the S IV and save my money. What do you guys think? Should I give into the hole of stupidity, or root for my common sense/logic?
I think that you should definitely wait. Quad-Core phones right now are absolutely nothing but a marketing hype. Maybe in the future they can be fully utilized but right now owning a quad-core phone is pointless, heck, the only benefit you get from owning a DUAL-core phone right now in my opinion is being future proof.
Aside the fact it is in the end JUST A PHONE, Single core phones are very capable of running more than 95% of all the apps in the market and all of those HD games only a handle of which require the NVIDIA Tegra( and is still not worth it in my opinion).
If you want a great mobile gaming experience and have money to spend, I suggest you buy a quad-core tablet, that's a good investment, but buying quad-core phones right now seems very pointless to me. ( Especially since you already own the fully capable SGSII )
I voted yes.
Newegg has the HTC ONE X for $230.
is that even worth buying at this point?
heres the link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875502142
Thanks in advance!
ill give thanks to all relevant answers!
I still think this phone is fantastic. It could use a little more RAM perhaps but in everyday situations I can't fault it.
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Agree w/ Tim here, but for that price you can go to swappa and get a nice Nexus 4. Same screen res, camera (even though ours is better), and screen size. Also, the n4 is a little more future proof w/ 2 gigs of ram and a s4pro chipset.
4ty-phive said:
but for that price you can go to swappa and get a nice Nexus 4. Same screen res, camera (even though ours is better), and screen size. Also, the n4 is a little more future proof w/ 2 gigs of ram and a s4pro chipset.
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Sounds like you are comparing specs and not actual quality. Just because the screens have equal resolution, does not by any measure mean they will have the same image quality. HTC displays blow away LG any day. One X had the best display on any smartphone in its time, and probably only surpassed by the display on the One. In general, LG hardware is consistantly underwhelming. Folks comparing the One X to even the Nexus 5 have mentioned the One X has slightly better display, camera, and speaker; and that the N5 is only an upgrade in terms of the processor and RAM.
That said, whether the deal mentioned by the OP is a "good" one or not is completely subjective. Depends on your personal situation and expectations. If you are on a budget and not eligible for any type of carrier subsidy, the One X is still a decent phone for that price. On the other hand, in a few months it will be 2 years old (a long time in the smartphone world) and HTC (as well as Samsung) will likely be releasing their new flagship, 2 generations newer than the One X. Personally, I don't usually buy tech that is even 1 generation old, much less 2. But again, it depends on how much you are willing to spend on a device, and what you expect out of it.
Well, wouldn't your use of "quality" is also subjective? I mean I'm pretty sure there are people out there that would say the n4, sg3, or some other high-end device (at the time) has better "quality" than our phone. So, yes I did refer to specs because it's not subjective. The OP will have to consider the "quality" factor that you mentioned. However, the OP will also have to consider updates that may or may not come to the phone. HTC has already proven that our phone is not a priority any longer. So we have to depend on the community for said updates. Google, on the other hand, will still continue to update the n4 couple more iterations (I'm assuming here), hence why I used "future proof". Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the "quality" of this phone. It's why I purchased it a little over a year ago.
Yeah, I've been looking for a reason to warrant spending the hundreds to upgrade this phone, but its proven fruitless .
With that given, I wouldn't buy it new now for $240. You can get the LG Optimus G 970's for less than that and they're quad core, with 2gb of ram and have expansion port.
its a gr8 phone if u can manage with stock android 4.2 sense 5 wch is really good...... thr is plenty of dev support for kitkat n ahead bt u cannot rely on future... for me its still better option than moto g r nexus 4 purely for its quality...
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Well, wouldn't your use of "quality" is also subjective? I mean I'm pretty sure there are people out there that would say the n4, sg3, or some other high-end device (at the time) has better "quality" than our phone. So, yes I did refer to specs because it's not subjective. The OP will have to consider the "quality" factor that you mentioned. However, the OP will also have to consider updates that may or may not come to the phone. HTC has already proven that our phone is not a priority any longer. So we have to depend on the community for said updates. Google, on the other hand, will still continue to update the n4 couple more iterations (I'm assuming here), hence why I used "future proof". Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the "quality" of this phone. It's why I purchased it a little over a year ago.
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Is quality subjective? To some extent yes. But you can read in review after review that HTC's displays are superior to just about any in the industry. Some might find the over saturated colors on the Samsung OLED screens to be more to their liking. But LG displays, I don't think you will find too many folks that think they are better than HTC.
Its just a peeve of mine when consumers fall for the marketing gimmick of touting nearly meaningless specs/stats. MPs on a camera and resolution on a screen do not in any way guarantee that the actual image quality is good. Things often sound great on paper, and less so in real life. And while the quality is somewhat not quantifiable, it is also not always completely subjective.
OK. To the OP, I apologize for getting off track. I will answer your question directly: no, I don't think spending $230 on this phone is a good idea. I wouldn't pay more than $160 brand new. There are better alternatives out there for the money. You should consider your what you want out of your perspective device and consider your options.