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Long story short, I fell into a creek with my phone. According to the stuff I've read on ATT's site, the warranty does not cover water damage. If I took it to a replacement center, would they refuse to replace the phone because of this? I've heard that they sometimes just ask for the phone with no questions and hand you a new one.
Assuming they refused the phone though, would they have the means to sue me for intentionally bricking my phone to get a replacement?
I don't see how it could be grounds to sue. But, it probably means you would have to buy your next one.
Just apply the theory to anything else. If you fell in a creek with your car, would they give you a new car? Insurance would, but not directly from the dealer, hence you are paying for it with the insurance premium.
It will probably have the red void sticker showing that it is water damaged. And I doubt they will cover it.
Every phone AT&T sold has a water damage detection mark in side the phone. The first thing AT&T warranty dept. check is the mark. If it turns into pink or anything else other than white, your warranty is denied. Even if you get a replacement by luck, there are secondary check and you will be automatically billed full retail price (of a new phone) for your refurbished replacement phone.
Water damage is easy to find out. Bricked phone is not.
Hope you have insurance
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foxbat121 said:
Every phone AT&T sold has a water damage detection mark in side the phone. The first thing AT&T warranty dept. check is the mark. If it turns into pink or anything else other than white, your warranty is denied. Even if you get a replacement by luck, there are secondary check and you will be automatically billed full retail price (of a new phone) for your refurbished replacement phone.
Water damage is easy to find out. Bricked phone is not.
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there is one on the battery as well. Probably also a hidden water detection sticker someone inside the casing (in addition to the one that is in the battery compartment and on the batt)
Superalpaca said:
Long story short, I fell into a creek with my phone. According to the stuff I've read on ATT's site, the warranty does not cover water damage......
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You haven't stated which warranty you are referring to. If you mean the 1 year factory warranty, then no it won't be covered. If you have the additional $5 coverage then it will be covered after a $125 deductible.
From the Wireless Phone Insurance documentation:
Covered Incidents:
Lost, Stolen, Accidental Physical or Liquid Damage, Mechanical and/or Electrical Failure after the Manufacturer’s Warranty Period has expired.
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Yeah, soon we will find that the entire phone contains water detection markers
It must be the #1 cause for ppl to claim warranty replacements. For a few times I have to use warranty service, the first question they ask is what color is the sticker inside the phone.
BTW, if you use you phone in humid places a lot, like bath room while showing, good luck with your warranty
If you have been paying monthly for insurance, then you will be able to pay $50-$80 to get a replacement. Otherwise, no they won't replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073929
I'm not advocating insurance fraud. Just sharing information.
Hmmm. So far nothing is pink/red, I'll have to open my phone. Haven't attempted to peroxide/bleach them. The phone, for the most part, works. The leftover residue is causing some issues, though.
Superalpaca said:
Hmmm. So far nothing is pink/red, I'll have to open my phone. Haven't attempted to peroxide/bleach them. The phone, for the most part, works. The leftover residue is causing some issues, though.
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You shouldn't be using the phone yet if there is still water inside. Every moment it's on increases the risk of a short or other damage. Stick the phone in a bowl of rice for a day or two. Make sure you keep the back plate off, and take the battery, SIM and SD cards out, and place them in a separate smaller bowl of rice. The rice absorbs the remaining moisture from the phone.
I've saved countless friend's phones this way.
Griffspen said:
If you have been paying monthly for insurance, then you will be able to pay $50-$80 to get a replacement. Otherwise, no they won't replace it.
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AT&T is a $125 deductible for smartphones. I've already claimed mine once.
id10terror said:
You shouldn't be using the phone yet if there is still water inside. Every moment it's on increases the risk of a short or other damage. Stick the phone in a bowl of rice for a day or two. Make sure you keep the back plate off, and take the battery, SIM and SD cards out, and place them in a separate smaller bowl of rice. The rice absorbs the remaining moisture from the phone.
I've saved countless friend's phones this way.
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For the past 24 hours I took the whole thing apart (screws and all) and let them dry. Not with rice, but they're dried up nonetheless. It's not so much the water that concerns me as it is the leftover particles in any residue that's left behind.
BenKranged said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073929
I'm not advocating insurance fraud. Just sharing information.
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Hey! I was going to share that!
Hi,
please can you help me ?
About a month ago I wanted to install IS on my brand new HTC Sensation XE.
After 3-4 days in rice it dried up, but there are some stains ( visible only on white background ) on my screen. It looks like this but smaller
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I think that the screen is absolutely DRY I did it month ago and dried it with rice.
BETTER:
youtube.com/watch?v=MvUB-ISEDII&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
Thanks and sorry for bad LINKS cant post URL
Help you do what?
The only way to remove the stain is to replace it!
The warranty is void now, do you have insurance they might resolve it for you.
If it was mine and visible only on a white screen, I'd learn to live with it as the repair, if paid for will not be cheap
there may be other issues over the horizon depending on how wet the phone was
no indication in your post and Im not going to watch the video
Warranty void ? Why ?! Phone was off for recommended time and screenprotector installed properly like thay write in manual.
Since it isn't a hardware defect it probably won't be covered under warranty.
Do you think that they can find marks after water under screen so they will say its my fault ?
I have screen insurance maybe will be better crack it with something and send it to repair for free
Nemesis94 said:
Do you think that they can find marks after water under screen so they will say its my fault ?
I have screen insurance maybe will be better crack it with something and send it to repair for free
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It depends whether they bother to look or not. Some companies seem to check better than others.
That could be an option though, but have a look for other people's experiences who've sent their phone in to the company for repair if you can.
I have my HTC Titan with me for awhile. Last week, while i was demo-ing some stuffs about my Titan, i opened the backcover and showed my friends what it is inside. Then somehow , a single drop of water from a cup that i was drinking, dropped down to the "White Paper" (The paper that they change to red when water goes over them) and turned it into red.
Physically, HTC will use it to say that i dropped my phone into water (which i did not , just a small drop of water to that spot). So... anyone here, has been in this problem, please tell me if i just have lost my warranty.
shucks
ya I guess officially the warranty is void....unless you go to the service centre early enough and let them know what happened. From what I know there are three such papers in samsung phones to detect water damage.....the drop of water would have probably only changed the one most superficial.....try....there is nothing more to lose i guess
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I have my HTC Titan with me for awhile. Last week, while i was demo-ing some stuffs about my Titan, i opened the backcover and showed my friends what it is inside. Then somehow , a single drop of water from a cup that i was drinking, dropped down to the "White Paper" (The paper that they change to red when water goes over them) and turned it into red.
Physically, HTC will use it to say that i dropped my phone into water (which i did not , just a small drop of water to that spot). So... anyone here, has been in this problem, please tell me if i just have lost my warranty.
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You need to explain it to them tactfully u know . Sometime it works.:good:
Well... it is not total red yet (Some white mark still on it , lmao )
But, technically, if that thing turn red, they void the warranty, is that right?
Yes...Most of the companies dont cover water damages since its a user-made damage
but i think you can continue the warranty if the problem is something that the manufactuer is responsible about it like system failure,bad components ETC.
and when there is water damage caused to the phone there is a corrosion inside the phone so they will see that there is no water involved in the phone defection
stavgayer said:
Yes...Most of the companies dont cover water damages since its a user-made damage
but i think you can continue the warranty if the problem is something that the manufactuer is responsible about it like system failure,bad components ETC.
and when there is water damage caused to the phone there is a corrosion inside the phone so they will see that there is no water involved in the phone defection
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Well... but could it be another paper like that on the mainboard, inside the phone that we can't see it from the outside?
But can they tell if the motherboard has not been "swimming" in the water?
Strike_Eagle said:
Well... but could it be another paper like that on the mainboard, inside the phone that we can't see it from the outside?
But can they tell if the motherboard has not been "swimming" in the water?
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Dunno if there is anything like that, but logically if you explain to them what happened and they can see that the phone is still in perfect working order, they might believe you and somehow sort it out (probably by replacing that bit of paper or something).
I dropped my A2 into a bowl of water amd now have the red dot of death (moisture indicator)....dried out in bag of rice and now seems that the screen is shading lighter in spots, like streaking. Would Moto take phone back with moisture damage? Moto knows I was rooted because of signing up for the soak test.I do have insurance on phone, but, it's $125.00 to replace it. Just looking for some cheaper alternatives if anybody has an idea. Thanks
body glove cover
with the cover from "body glove" made it 2 minutes in hot tub.
Not the smartest but kept all moisture out.
captaincado said:
I dropped my A2 into a bowl of water amd now have the red dot of death (moisture indicator)....dried out in bag of rice and now seems that the screen is shading lighter in spots, like streaking. Would Moto take phone back with moisture damage? Moto knows I was rooted because of signing up for the soak test.I do have insurance on phone, but, it's $125.00 to replace it. Just looking for some cheaper alternatives if anybody has an idea. Thanks
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If you can fry the motherboard, and open a warranty service ticket through Moto, you can send it back to them. The will ask that you remove the battery (which has its own water sensitive sticker on it), the sd card, the SIM, and the back cover plate, and send to them. I actually removed the sticker under the battery, where the serial number is found, after hooking my A2's motherboard up to a car battery. They replaced it in less than a week. All this assumes you're still within the 1 year manufacturer warranty.
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with the cover from "body glove" made it 2 minutes in hot tub.
Not the smartest but kept all moisture out.
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This doesn't help the OP, nor does it address the concerns. If you're going to post something, make sure it's a useful post -not something that's just dribble (No pun intended).
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@Apex_strider: That aint cool man. Thats fraud.
@OP: your SOL. Water damage voids ALL warranties.
MotoMudder77 said:
@Apex_strider: That aint cool man. Thats fraud.
@OP: your SOL. Water damage voids ALL warranties.
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It's no more fraudulent than purposefully flashing to perma-hard brick the device. Nobody asked anyone to agree or approve. Trust me, after you've had to deal with your new A2 after a while, you'll have no qualms in screwing Motorola if needed. A warranty is a warranty, if it doesn't power on, how it got there is inconsequential. I never stated I filed a claim through insurance for a new phone, that would have perhaps been the only way I could see something categorically considered as 'fraud'.
"@OP: your SOL. Water damage voids ALL warranties." So does rooting...
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Ok, enough nonsense about "perma-bricking" etc.
I think most people, have rooted, bricked their device, tried installing some stock rom to screw it up enough so they can get warranty.
But, XDA is not a place to discuss how to "pull one over" on manufacturers. We can leave it up to the owner to decide.
So you guys give it a rest.
So you dropped it in the water. Suck it up, and own up to it.
MD
My phone was briefly dropped in water. I quickly dried it off, and powered down the device. After letting it sit in rice for a day or so, I powered it back on. It boots up just fine, but the touch screen does not work properly. I can't even get past my pattern lock screen, because the touch screen does not sense all the places my finger goes. I am considering two things. 1 - going the RMA process and returning the phone to Google for another one. I'm sure somewhere along the way they'll discover that the phone got wet, and I'll be screwed. 2 - I've read online that you can disassemble the phone, and put rubbing alcohol on it, and blow dry it and fix the water damage.
My question is. Will removing the back, and trying to fix the device myself void the warranty. I would love to get the device working on my own, but also fear voiding out any possibility to use the warranty in the future. Or if I can't fix it on my own, I'd like the warranty/RMA rout to fall back on
Any help, or experience with this is much appreciated! Thank you!
joeman55 said:
My phone was briefly dropped in water. I quickly dried it off, and powered down the device. After letting it sit in rice for a day or so, I powered it back on. It boots up just fine, but the touch screen does not work properly. I can't even get past my pattern lock screen, because the touch screen does not sense all the places my finger goes. I am considering two things. 1 - going the RMA process and returning the phone to Google for another one. I'm sure somewhere along the way they'll discover that the phone got wet, and I'll be screwed. 2 - I've read online that you can disassemble the phone, and put rubbing alcohol on it, and blow dry it and fix the water damage.
My question is. Will removing the back, and trying to fix the device myself void the warranty. I would love to get the device working on my own, but also fear voiding out any possibility to use the warranty in the future. Or if I can't fix it on my own, I'd like the warranty/RMA rout to fall back on
Any help, or experience with this is much appreciated! Thank you!
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You dropped it in water. You already voided your warranty. Opening the back and trying to fix it yourself really doesn't matter at this point does it. If you manage to use rubbing alcohol and through some magic of chemistry reset the sensor and return the device for RMA all you've managed to do is commit fraud. Be a man and accept responsibility for your actions instead of expecting Google to pay for your mistake.
This thread should be locked before I can't contain myself as nicely as poster above me.
WR
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marleyfan61 said:
You already voided your warranty
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Not true. The warranty doesn't cover water damage but the warranty is still intact so long as you don't try and repair it yourself
To the OP - just claim on insurance or buy a new one. You're not gonna fool Google by trying to cover it up
Doesn't anyone get insurance? Mine is against damage, loss, theft, drops, water, whatever.
EddyOS said:
Not true. The warranty doesn't cover water damage but the warranty is still intact so long as you don't try and repair it yourself
To the OP - just claim on insurance or buy a new one. You're not gonna fool Google by trying to cover it up
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That makes no sense. If the device is subjected to things not covered by the warranty, it is null and void at that point.
Same with opening the the device and perfectly putting it back together. They may never know it was opened and probably will still honor the warranty for other claims later down the road however. Water damage isn't covered by warranty as you mentioned but that doesn't mean you have a warranty anymore either. The microphone could stop working tomorrow and it wouldn't be covered by warranty because of previous water damage.
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That makes no sense. If the device is subjected to things not covered by the warranty, it is null and void at that point.
Same with opening the the device and perfectly putting it back together. They may never know it was opened and probably will still honor the warranty for other claims later down the road however. Water damage isn't covered by warranty as you mentioned but that doesn't mean you have a warranty anymore either. The microphone could stop working tomorrow and it wouldn't be covered by warranty because of previous water damage.
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Not true. Say someone dropped it and the screen cracked. This isn't covered by the warranty but if the microphone went this would be covered unless it can be proven that the drop damaged the mic. OK, in this instance the water has killed the phone but the warranty isn't technically void in its entirety
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Not true. The warranty doesn't cover water damage but the warranty is still intact so long as you don't try and repair it yourself
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Perhaps. Google MAY cover things clearly not affected by or caused by water. Something like the button rattle. However currently Google replaces the phone with a new one, not refurbished (at least according to the rep I spoke with).. They will NOT do that with a phone that has water damage. This would open the door for people to drop their phone in water and then get a new one claiming button rattle.
The OP is clearly having issues related to water damage and is therefore not covered under warranty.
To the OP, I would suggest leaving it in rice for several more days and trying again. Sometimes more time is required. Sometimes it doesn't help at all.
@joeman55 - if you paid for the phone using a credit card (that provides accidental damage warranty), you may want to go that route.
I wish. I just paid for it using my debit card. I think for now, I will let it sit in rice for a few more days. Then, if that's still not working, go the RMA route. I had a friend who did that, and it worked out for him.
I see, one guy has no honor, but he's your friend.
So its OK.
Things perpetuate if no one makes a stand to do different.
It's clear, the change won't start with either of you two.
WR
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