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Best GPS Software

Hey everyone
I am wondering what your opinions on the best mapping/route software for Windows Mobile is at the moment.
I am currently using TomTom and are after what you guys use?

I use Tomtom on the road, and Memory-Map off the road.

jez83uk said:
I use Tomtom on the road, and Memory-Map off the road.
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Memory-map interested me, is this for on foot or something?

Yeah, I use memory map for hiking. Its basicly just a OS map on your screen, and it shows your position. However it also records your track, so you can look back at any point and see where you were at any time, and how fast you were going.
Also the pc half is very good for planning trips in advance, as you just click to place waypoints which you can then follow using either your pda or you handheld gps like my garmin etrex.

Memory Map is very good for walking/ moutain biking, the maps can be costly though as you purchase them in large areas at a time, as an alternative consider "Quo" it isn't as feature filled but does provide OS mapping on tiles for £0,99 each it also will run on PC and PDA, see http://www.mapyx.com/ - Mike

Best car navigation solution for Raphael?

Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol

I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.

Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.

Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol

McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye

Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.

iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael

Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol

i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!

jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom

To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....

Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.

NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.

Navigation software review for HTC Vox / S710

Hi,
i tried several navigation solutions for vox, and here is a little review:
1. Sygic Mobile / McGuider
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ good graphics while navigation
+ no bluescreens (at all)
2. Navigon Mobile Navigator 7
+ best graphics while navigation
+ fast route calculation
- doesnt works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
- crashes operating system so that you have to do a hard reset.
- doesnt recognize GPS-settings from last use
3. Garmin Mobile XT
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
+ fast route calculation
- works to slow to navigate, gives hint "turn right" when you already passed the crossing.
4. Route 66
+ works on WM Standard without additional software (like FakeCoursor)
no further testing because i didnt find a "free" map to test
Hope this "little" review helps some people looking for navigation software for vox.
I use an external gps - Jentro BT-GPS-8U.
Greets
Alex

Nice little compilation.
I am using Garmin Mobile XT and I never found it too slow (except when you're using the preview of turns which then takes too long to switch back to normal view). I have been using it here in Germany as well as in Scotland and it always found a pretty good route (except for a small street on a small scottish island hehe).
I am using a Bluemax GPS receiver.

You forgot to mention Tom Tom which with version 7.915 (I don't remember the build...maybe 9196) has become pretty usable without a fake cursor.
Also regarding my experience...McGuider is the nicer but the less reliable...something you can't thrust in.
GarminXT, is pretty decent to use, and more reliable...as stated by Frauhottelman...sure it isn't the smoother thing you'll see in your life...but, hei, you're running it on a 200 Mhz TI OMAP CPU.
TomTom ...i'm starting hating it...it does whatever it wants...IMO...On my Fuze it simply ignores the settings you set in it...and keep you crossing field roads...LOL.. damn it!
So my 2 cents go for the Garmin.
P.S: Whenever you'll go to the WM Pro platform...my suggest point all theway out for the Igo experience.

Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.

Hey
anybody know why i cant get the device id for my vox in ttnavitor.bif?
flyboy

Murd0ck said:
Did you test any of these without GPS connected, i´m thinking it could be used as a normal roadmap for finding your way without GPS.
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If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.

TheBo said:
If you were talking to me...only for some seconds, just to see what path did they decide...not in real driving need. Sorry.
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Just new users for vox ) - toons of questions, without prior reading - just new phone where user is very new to wm or ever smart phones
m32

dear brothers
do you mean that s710 is GPS enabled ????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no gps built into the vox BUT it has bluetooth + if you have a bluetooth gps mouse like from ebay etc you will have a gps signal as good as or better than most gps enabled cellphones...

[Q] Lookig for a GPS app like Garmin Oregon has

Hei,
Has anybody encountered an app thats similar to the software that Garmin Oregon series handheld GPS units have?
I'm looking for something that works with Garmin topo maps and has way-points (for geocaching) , tracks and area calculation, and whatnot.
also looking for an app thats usable for sports (logs for cycling, rollerskating and running)
I currently have IGo running on my Leo - it works great for navigating in the cities and by car, but is not much help with area calculation and sporting stuff.
tnx in advance

Try Sportypal for sports and GCzII for geocaching. I have been looking for softare like what your talking about but couldnt find anything that was affordable.
If you have a $100 try map tuner is really nice. Its similiar to a garmin handheld.

tnx for the reply!,
I will try these and see from there..

SportyPal is UNUSABLE on HD2,
when I turn off the screen to put mu phone in pocket, sportypal ceases to function.

Hey, take a serious look at RunGPS here!
It may not be the most sexy Programm arround, when it comes to style... but it is highly capable!
I use it for jogging, biking, hiking and trekking tours on Vacation. While on Tour I have acces to Open Streetmap, it helped a lot when I got lost the last time.
It is highly customisable and has Language output and directions funcionality. You can connect to BT Pulsebelt and BT cadence, its good for geocaching and all kinds of sports. There is a Training Log and Training Planner, also you can export your Trainings to excel and as KML or GPX or CSV!
I think I still use only 30% of its capabilities... I recomment the PRO version for all functions, it's worth the money.
PS: I still hope they will do an graphical overhaul, the design could be better... but the tool itself is nearly "almighty"!
PPS: I agree with Mihkel.ee, Sporty Pal is a mess on the HD2... I tried several Apps so far, the best for just tracking was GPS Trackah (for runners Joggah), but for full GPS Features RunGPS was best.
regards
Myrixamophit

RunGPS has same problems as SportyPal,
can you explane how do you use RunGPS?
when I start the training and put the phone in my pocket it stops working, when I activate the screen again it takes 10 seconds to reconnect GPS.

Mihkel.ee said:
RunGPS has same problems as SportyPal,
can you explane how do you use RunGPS?
when I start the training and put the phone in my pocket it stops working, when I activate the screen again it takes 10 seconds to reconnect GPS.
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Mmmhh... first of all, I do not use GPS inside of Pockets, Clothes or Bags. I have my HD2 either in an Armband on my upper arm (for Jogging or Roadbiking) or I have it under the transparent cover on my Front bikebag during tours and Trekking. So I always try to have a good connection. When I started Recording I usually activate the screenlock of RunGps and then lock the Phone or wait until it locks itself. After an hour of running for example (or in between) I unlock the HD2 and then RunGps... and everything is recorded fine! The only problem I ever had was last weekend when I tried to record a 55km bike-tour and had the HD2 under the map on my frontbag... the map is waterproof and covered in plastik, so probably that was enough for the gps to get no signal? Anyway, I had large gaps in the record... I see to it to put the HD2 above the map next time. But this was the first & only time of having GPS problems with RunGps!
There is definitly no cut in GPS recieve when I lock the device, with or without locking RunGps! RunGps works always in the background, it never acted differently with me.
regards,
Myrixamophit

[Q] HTC Locations premium navigation query

I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.

Have a look here :
sygic
http://www.sygic.com/en
or here
Navigon
http://www.navigon.com/portal/it/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_android.html
or here
IgoMyWay
http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/
or here
NDrive
http://www.ndrive.com/en/platforms/android
Hope its help dude.

I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.

freedirk said:
I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.
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I can't comment much on this but one thing I can say is that a nice bit of integration according to the Sense tour on the HTC website is integrating the call screen with the Nav system so that calls don't interrupt your gps functionality while driving.

I saw that and liked it. Just wondered if anyone had tried it indepth.

I try nearly all on my WM6.5 but as far as i know tomtom isn't for android platform. for others gps soft, Sygic and Ndrive are quite nice, but by far I prefer IGO and if u have RDS u got in real time all informations ...... etc etc.
Personnally I havent yet the HTC sensation, waiting to be totally bootloaders unlock.
Its up to U, to see whats your real need and Google is your friends to have all informations needed.

Hmm... but which Navis are really working for the Sensation Display?
As far as I've ready, just the Copilot and anotherone, not the iGo?

freedirk said:
I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.
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Can't you pay for Locations on a monthly basis? For a pretty small fee you can try it out for a month and see if it suits your needs. That's what I plan to do once I get my hands on the phone.

I read that too. Anyone using any others with any measure of success?

last sygic version does not (yet) work on sensation. It automatically closes. Hoping for a fix soon.

One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...

dvhttn said:
One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...
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No flaming, just reporting my experience. Just used CoPilot 8 on a recent trip, and the map was bad. Directed me to turn onto a bridge when there was no road to do this. I've found other map errors in my local area for road segments that have been in place for years. Of course, any GPS can have map errors, but relying on updates a couple of times a year at most, rather than online, increases the likelihood. Hopefully if and when Google implements maps stored on the phone updates will be available anytime.

yeah, but this here is about the sensation...
I've had alot of different navigations on my phones and pocket pcs. but right now, it seems just the copilot is working well on the sensation (which btw, I hate, its too bubble-gummy for me, looks like driving through disney world). the iGo and Navigon don't work to my knowledge for example (so far, I found iGo the best, Tomtom and Navigon tied).
but the OP just wants to know: who uses the built-in Nav with premium service, and how good is it.