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Video's On The Fuze

How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.

For best performance, it's best that you convert it. The more you start doing it and mess with the settings, the better you'll become and find which settings yield the best results.

I originally tried Quicktime Pro for this, but the people at Apple have decided that the iPhone screen is the biggest resolution they want to support on export, and I don't want the player scaling up, so I had to look elsewhere.
I'm playing with a program called Allok MPEG4 converter (http://www.alloksoft.com/mp4_converter.htm), which seems to do a nice job if a bit slowly. Of course, to do a nice job requires LOTS of processing power. I have been using the defaults except for making the output H264 and 640x480. Once the files are converted, I just copy them to the Fuze's SD card and play them from there.
I use a program called VideoReDo (www.videoredo.com) to suck in the DVD files and make a single large MPG file from them (the free DVDShrink will also work for this, if you can still find it somewhere), then load that single file into Allok and let it run. A decent DVD will take pretty much overnight to process. The results have been very good so far.
Start with a small (5 minutes or so) piece to practice with and try various settings, then when you're happy, let the full movie conversion run overnight.
Also, be aware that most commercial DVD's will have DRM and you will have to deal with that before you can do anything with the files.

xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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If you are converting from an .avi file then you can try PocketDivXEncoder (freeware). It has presets for Diamond which you should start with. You should decide whether you want VGA or QVGA. VGA should look a little sharper but will be ~30% increase in file size and on a 2.8" screen the difference may not be much. Test for your self
I would modify some of the settings though. Leave video as is. Change the audio (small arrow on the left) to 32Khz 80 kbps stereo. Go to advanced and tick 2-Pass and Xvid.

What is your source file for the movie? If its on DVD then you definately want to convert it. Once all of my media is ripped or converted to the container / format I want I leave it at computer base resolution and just play it on the phone. Core player has done pretty well at handleing what I put at it so far.
Now that PocketDivx Encoder is a good program and does a pretty good job and shrinking files down.

Any recommendations on codecs, resolution and bitrate? I would especially be interested if anyone knew which settings preserved battery life the best while watching video.

Menneisyys has a good thread on video playback.
I use Core Player and I really don't covert any of the TV shows that I watch.
Windows Movie Maker is a great tool too. Its free (if you have XP SP2 installed) and it uses WMV format that Windows Media Player Mobile will play without any addons.
If you watch alot of movies on your Touch Pro I would suggest investing in Core Player, it plays most of the commonly used codex and its pretty quick too.
Bit rates and resolutions: I have found that if its a TV show that is about 40 to an hour, I dont have to do anything with it. For example an episode of House is about 42 minutes long, its 624x352 and running at 23.97 frames. With Core Player the episode looks flawless, eventhough the statistics on Core Player say its dropping frames, I can't tell.
I would think that a full length movie would perform a little worse, or a TV show with alot of action.
Also fatheadpi has this thread posted about encoding video for the Raphael phones.

Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try them out.

Watch Movies on Fuze Problems
So I got an HTC FUZE not too long ago and have been trying desperately to get it to play movies.
Windows Mobile Player does not want to play the wmv files I give it...
and no matter what file I use with CorePlayer the audio is terrible
mpegs, mp4, avi, h.264...
All of these videos will play fine on my computer but as soon as I get it to my phone, the audio goes to crap.
To make it all more difficult, I only have a Mac to sync this device with, so Windows based programs are useless to me...
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
'Jammin

I too have been trying and so far no Success
Operating my Fuze in cooperation with a Mac Laptop is difficult enough. The programs most suggest to convert videos exist mainly for PC.
I have used many methods of conversion and found no luck with producing watchable quality on my FUZE
CorePlayer gives me bad audio playback when the video played perfectly on my computer
and Windows Media Player will not play my bigger wmv files for some reason.
Let me know if you found a combo of programs and settings that really works
'Jammin

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use this and it works great. Converting the video is a pain in the butt.

+1 Take time to convert but yield a much better result in viewing your video in either Album or WMP

Thanks for the info, but isn't that program for PC's?
I have many different methods of converting videos
from freeware that helps me with wmv's (as I am on a Mac and that is somewhat hard to do)
To Final Cut Pro's Compressor and even Adobe's version
Windows Media Player on my Fuze seems not to like any files over 100mb
and even though the video will look awesome on my computer after conversion, the players I use on my phone completely destroy the audio...
I've searched up and down threads like these and am at a complete loss...

qwik question
which is better to convert movies to my fuze spb video or avs video?

sorry people
um what size micro sd card on average would I need to store the videos?

get at minimum a 4GB microSDHC... under $8 if you're lucky
or a 8GB for $16... no reason to jump for that now that memory isn't that expensive

Use coreplayer bro
I bought it, and its amazing $29.95... Don't convert anything that I get. It only has trouble with on6 flv files, and devs say it'll never support codec. Shame, because flash 9 and 10 protected movies are almost all encoded with this...
A small ffmpeg utility can run one through flv to avi, keeping aspect and original source resoultion, and process a 1.5 hour flv file in about 3 minutes and give you a great quality avi output for your phone
With TCPMP I get lag when watching full movies, but Coreplayer is fine
Set video to the qtv display, high quality.
If you've got bad audio, perhaps you need to lower the pre-am if muffled, or increase if quiet
Also, you may have equaliser enabled, and not know it.
Check the options section go through pages
There definatley should not be a problem playing media with this program
Only problem now is.... I bought this... ya sweet - but now can't afford to get my raph unlocked until next month
So still without a mobile

xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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News Flash
Disney released Wall-E on DVD and Blue Ray discs. I have yet to see a cell phone with a built in DVD or Blue Ray player.
The motion picture experts group (standards body)...MPEG for short, many years ago, decided to evolve the distribution techology (for consumers), from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. MPEG-4 is a broad spec and covers everything from small hand held devices to HD quality video (H.264, VC-1 etc).
Your Touch Pro has built in hardware acceleration to handle MP4 up to a reasonable limit. Your best built in video players, as delivered by the OEM, are HTC Album and Windows Media Player. Both apps support hardware accleration for MP4 video.
I continue to read about (and have purchased) Coreplayer. In the mobile space, Coreplayer is a modest improvement over the free open source TCPMP player. CorePlayer, caused a brief stir when they half-hacked into the (modest) built in hardware acceleration on the HTC Kaiser.
On a Touch Pro, Coreplayer does support non industry standard video formats, but only in software mode (slowly rendered down sized formats). Coreplayer fails dismally, when compared to Album or WMP for MP4 playback.
So...yes, convert your content to a fully supported format. Or...leech your content in supported formats. Search this forrum and you'll find guidance, and free conversion tools.

Video Playback On AT&T Tilt

Is video playback on an AT&T Tilt horrible no matter what player I use or what files I play? If not can anybody help me out with a player with AVI support that doesn't run so slow. Is this even possible right now with current drivers like the classaction and omnia?

Have you tried Divx Mobile or Kinoma Freeplay?
mcjewpants said:
Is video playback on an AT&T Tilt horrible no matter what player I use or what files I play? If not can anybody help me out with a player with AVI support that doesn't run so slow. Is this even possible right now with current drivers like the classaction and omnia?
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You didn't say what hardware you had, but I use Kinoma for most of my media, and it works well, but doen't do AVI, so I dl'd Divx mobile to handle those. Both run very smooth for me.

the best for me is Smart Player.
it does work best if you reencode movie on your PC using the Smart converter
no speed probs or sound sync probs..
i have tried many but this is superior and i watch full length movies..

Well, that's because of lack of complete drivers in your device, you can find lots of information in this forum about it.
The only player I know that take advantage of video hardware acceleration for your device (QTv) is Coreplayer.

Drakh said:
Well, that's because of lack of complete drivers in your device, you can find lots of information in this forum about it.
The only player I know that take advantage of video hardware acceleration for your device (QTv) is Coreplayer.
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Tried out coreplayer and it seems to work best, alot better than DivX or WMP10, I think this is the one for me

Good media player plays all formats

Is there a good media player for Windows Mobile? I'm looking for something that will play avi & flv etc.. formats.
I use Windows Media PLayer Clasic and VLC player which plays all formats... Can someone please recomend me somehting please...
or, where can i download all the codecs for Windows Mobile?
thanks.

Coreplayer

CorePlayer or TCPMP

I'm using CorePlayer v1.3.6 build 7427 and it plays all major formats of video and audio.
The only problem i have is that my Moto S9 HD stereo bluetooth headphones don't work with CorePlayer only the volume buttons. If I can get this to work then it would be perfect. I have to use WMP if I want to use my BT headphones.

Please be aware that Coreplayer does not support video files with AC3 audio. This can be a big problem sometimes. TCPMP ( the freeware player) that Coreplayer was based on does.

for some reason, i cannot get TCPMP to work on Windows MObile 6.1.. any help?
which cab do i use for Windows Mobile 6.1? The Smartphone or PPC or Other?
Windows Mobile CAB
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.other.cabs.0.72RC1.zip

wineds said:
Please be aware that Coreplayer does not support video files with AC3 audio. This can be a big problem sometimes. TCPMP ( the freeware player) that Coreplayer was based on does.
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what version of TCPMP are you using with WM6.5? Also, have you tried the latest version of CorePlayer v1.3.6 build 7427? I don't seem to have any issues with it so far.

i'm looking for a free player... I have to pay for CorePlayer

i'm pretty sure i sent you a private message with alternatives to Core Player and links. have a look.

thanks everyone for replying!

Drag-On said:
i'm pretty sure i sent you a private message with alternatives to Core Player and links. have a look.
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You could post it here for all who are intersted (like me) Drag-On

Drag-On said:
i'm pretty sure i sent you a private message with alternatives to Core Player and links. have a look.
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So you basically sent links to cracked CorePlayer? Great..

ArtieQ said:
So you basically sent links to cracked CorePlayer? Great..
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no, alternatives. like many that were mentioned in the previous posts. i just sent him a pm, so as to make it simpler for him to follow instructions (not knowing his ppc/pc literacy level)
in closing, i DO like coreplayer, i just think it's to much money for something that TCPMP does well.

Core Player

On my HD I could play AVI files using Core Player, on the HD2 the same files play the audio but the viseo is:
1. In small screen very "liney" and doubled, 2 images side by side.
2. In full screen the screen is blank.
Any ideas?

maybe u have to set "directdraw" instead "qtv" in video settings

Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.

arturobandini said:
Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.
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yes true but to play divx or xvid files,coreplayer is still the best one,you dont need to convert it in mp4 and 1.36 is working just fine on my leo without bugs

where is the HTC video player located on the phone & will it play AVI files?

where are these setting changed?

southG said:
where are these setting changed?
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menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer

i got coreplayer to work perfect only with these settings
in preferences-->select page--->video---> than select GDI and smooth zoom
any different setup would show pixelated image(video)

While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?

i don't think coreplayer can play subs , but tcpmp can...however i didn't try it on my hd2 and don't know if it works

tcpmp works fine set to either gdi or rawframebuffer
not tried subs but they should work too
biggest benefit of tcpmp over coreplayer is the price

Subtitle
ToddeSwe said:
While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?
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Tcpmp works, you can use srt (and I think smi) subtitles. You have to use GDI as video driver to see them.

Colors
Do you like the colors of coreplayer (or tcpmp) out of the box?
I had to change them to custom, raise the contrast a bit and lower the brightness.
I find HTC album images a bit too dark instead (but I can't change)

Johnston411 said:
menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer
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That's done it thanks for you help.

southG said:
That's done it thanks for you help.
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pleasure

.flv & other formats
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?

i use coreplayer 1.3.6 version on my HD 2 , and it play already subbed AVI's very well.

DrBasem said:
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?
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ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?

For those who might be desirous to buy CorePlayer 1.36 I strongly recommand to be patient.
Indeed CorePlayer 1.36 is a dying software. CoreCodec is currently finalizing a version 2.0.
It would be useless to waste €30 on v1.36 now and probably have to pay later for v2.0.

kenkiller said:
ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?
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sorry for that , i meant .wmv

CorePlayer AC3

Hi all,
anyone know a player that I can throw anything below and including 720p (especially: Star Wars: The Clone Wars 720p MKV releases - these shinies have AC3 sound and x264 video) at and it will play fluently on a HD2 without having to re-code them?
TCPMP may, depending on the version you get ahold of, either crash, don't play the video or the sound or have massive stuttering issues (hello? a HD2 has a 1 GHz/750MHz CPU? And an acceleration unit?).
CorePlayer... well, needs a recode as it doesn't know AC3. Any way to give him a 3rd party plugin?!
Marco

plus1 its a shame VLC doesnt go

Moved as not software release.
You'll find that the data read speed from SD won't be up to the task, MKV can be turned into .avi without a long recode time. "i'll update later as friend can provide more info just mem him saying it was done in minutes"

the point is, I want to save me the recoding time and diskspace...

I have AC3 plug-in to TCPMP

Me too, but TCPMP is awfully slow in playing stuff (if it loads at all)

What?! AYFKM? TCPMP working very fast and playing non converted AVI movies smooth withiout any audio video async. Try it - for me is much better than Core Player and additionaly is for free.

the core player IS actually tcpmp,but with new brand and some minor stuff

You got one build that is HD2 compatible? Can you pls point me to the thread?