O2 UK to get Touch HD2 (AKA Leo) in October - General Topics

Just spoke to an O2 rep and they said a new phone had just it their system called an HTC HD2 which was due for release towards the end of October.
I was surprised as they have never sold an HTC branded phone before. Also, O2 and their release dates are often way off, I remember phones being pushed months and months based on their original release dates.
Exciting news none the less.

Would be better to post your coment on the same Leo thread insted of creating the 6th thread regarding Leo!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4597999&postcount=165

There is no official Leo thread. Just one stating that it is the first decent phone by HTC in a long time. I did not want to go off topic on that thread as I was not making any comment on how good that phone was.
Perhaps as a Mod you could spend less time picking on long term users and more time creating a Leo section on the site?!?

If this is true it's fantastic news. I was angry they didn't have the TP2 available, only iPhones as an upgrade, but the Leo looks like it will piss all over the TP2.
I'll not have to upgrade to an iPhone, sell it at a reduced rate, and put the money towards the Leo now.

I recently left O2 as there was no TP2 or equivalent. I am absolutely loving my TP2 and (1) I really use the keyboard and so maybe want the phone after the LEO, and (2) its anyone's guess when they will actually release it (o2 that is).
Also, my 18 month contract for my TP2 will finish in february 2011, and so the market should be flush with new WM7 native phones.
So I am not feeling bad about not waiting.

churchwa said:
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Perhaps as a Mod you could spend less time picking on long term users and more time creating a Leo section on the site?!?
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He's not a mod although does like to try and "police"

Right not a Mod, just tried to let know that there are many threads regarding Leo
My apologize, it was just my point of view

crazyC said:
I recently left O2 as there was no TP2 or equivalent. I am absolutely loving my TP2 and (1) I really use the keyboard and so maybe want the phone after the LEO, and (2) its anyone's guess when they will actually release it (o2 that is).
Also, my 18 month contract for my TP2 will finish in february 2011, and so the market should be flush with new WM7 native phones.
So I am not feeling bad about not waiting.
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Did exactly the same as you my friend. Left O2 as no TP2. Moved to Orange on an 18 month. Mine finishes March 2011. So as you, Ill get myself a Touch Pro 3 with WM7. I like my keyboard to much to switch to a HD or Diamond.

If you're stuck in a contract you could always sell your existing handset and use the money you raise to buy a new one SIM-free, then continue to use the new phone with your contract SIM.

I prefer to use the network phone insurance as I have young kids who are very adept and getting my phone when I am not looking.
I just find it easier to call up and get a replacement if something happens to it.
Can't really do that if the network has never sold the model of phone I am using.

Looks like we'll be able to get the Leo for free from o2 on a £44 18 month contract according to engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/25/htc-leo-looking-confirmed-for-o2-uk-debut-will-be-free-on-the-r/

O2 normally rebadge their HTC phones as XDA phones like this one - XDA Guide (aka HTC Touch Cruise 09). A bit of a waste of time and money I am sure. Now that HTC is a pretty main stream brand they are maybe going to just sell them as HTC devices. Here is some more proof by the way, not sure if anyone has posted this but several blogs are showing pics of the latest O2 in store catalogue with a page for the HTC HD2: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/30/htc-hd2-makes-first-official-appearance-in-o2-uk-catalog/

Its also coming on T-Mobile and Vodafone according to mobile phones direct :
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p27241.aspx

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XDA Zinc, anyone had any luck?

Supposed to be out today, but O2 tell me they are not in stock. Has anyone else had any luck?
o2 are always behind the times, partly due to them always making pointless rubbish like o2 active for their phones. however as this forum is for htc devices only, i doubt there will be a forum
"Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names..."
from the xda portal, there used to be a section which said something like this-
"the only things not wrong about the site name/address are the dash and the dot..."
it should really be called something like
www.devices-manfactured-specifically-by-htc-developers.com
says v in this thread
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
benjdc said:
I rang o2, who said they wil no longer stocking this handset... pretty lame really.
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Absolutely - I rang them on Friday and they said they were still all on for the Zinc. However, someone on one of the Universal forums said there were real problems with it.
The imate ultimate looks a better bet. Shame O2 won't have the taste to go for it.
churchwa said:
I don't quite get your point, I am not asking for a forum on it. I can guarantee you that many people from this forum are looking into getting this phone, so i thought it was a good place to ask.
Can you suggest any other forums (which name themselves properly) that might be of more help?
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I looked at your other posts, including why is this forum just htc? and because this is your second thread about the xda zinc, i just thought it would be like asking about a nokia or blackberry release (which generally doesn't happen). That said, I really hope you or someone else gets one because unless o2 make another horribly slow rom, I want one. And this is the only place where people are likely to talk specifically about it, and I/we can find out if it's any good...
I guess that clears it up, or not
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
hdubli said:
It is a crap..I returned to the dealer in two days..very buggy..takes long time to get on to network..one has to manuallt set the GSM only then it detects and logs on to GSM networks..very thick and bulkier than Hermes...and as usual O2 crap is there.with some crap from Asus..
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Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
apd said:
Just spoken to O2 - they are now going to release the "Trion" at the beginning of April, which looks like it is a Hermes.
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REALLY??? I've been hassleing o2 for the trion for ages. Was told its only out in Germany, the UK gets the Zinc. I really hope you're right!!
EDIT: Just called o2 myself. Indeed the Xda ZINC has officially been pulled "We are no longer going to release this phone". Instead we have the Trion (Hermes) out on 16th April, together with the o2 Argon (whatever that is...I've never heard of it and nor had the o2 guy).
Looks like I'll finally get my Hermes (although I really want the HTC Kaiser which has integrated GPS)
The Trion will be out week starting 2nd of April (yeah right, i will believe that when i see it)
And they dont have a clue what the Argon is which i find quite funny. I will ask my friend at O2 what the Argon is when he gets back from holiday.
although im going to have to wait yet another month, i guess its good news. atleast they are going to release something to replace my mini s. we'l wait and see.
I'm led to believe that the Argon is an HTC device with inbuilt GPS - go search the HTC site? Not sure the model.
Strange, as the only one with GPS on their site is already out as the Orbit.
I have heard it is a full sized business device designed to replace the XDA II/IIs. I guess all the firms using them want to upgrade?
I'm wondering if the O2 XDA Argon is actually the long-rumoured Universal replacement, the HTC Omni?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=245564

Raphael Sighted Vodafone UK

http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4184.html
my friend who works in vodafone upgrades said the shipment date on his system says the 31st of this month, i meant to post that weeks ago but couldnt be bothered as i forgot my password lol.
hope its released on orange around the same time.
m4k said:
http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/Details-Phone-HTC-Touch-Pro-3037.html
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4184.html
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oh im getting all excited
watch this it will cost £200 on a £35 a month contract
bagg1234bagg said:
my friend who works in vodafone upgrades said the shipment date on his system says the 31st of this month, i meant to post that weeks ago but couldnt be bothered as i forgot my password lol.
hope its released on orange around the same time.
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Anyone have any news on whether Orange are releasing at the same time ?
OregonAird said:
Anyone have any news on whether Orange are releasing at the same time ?
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sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk
goodstone said:
sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk
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How do you know this ????
If it true it's a shame , i'd like to stay on orange
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How do you know this ????
If it true it's a shame , i'd like to stay on orange
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Been on orange for 4 years wasnt really happy to change, but after speaking to upgrades 2 weeks ago they said that they were not doing this phone in the very near future. The guy on upgrades was surprised at this also. had to migrate to t-mobile through expansys. Very happy though since iv got the HTC handset unlocked to al networks with no network label on handset.
goodstone said:
sorry to tell you that this phone will not be available on orange. iv had to change to t-mobile through expansys.co.uk
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Thats terrible news, I been with Orange for like 8 years.. I'm classed as a band 5 customer and always get the newest phones for free... I have loads of magic numbers. N!O!N!O !
When they say near furture. i'm hoping they mean it might be available next month!
I might have to stick it out and wait for the Sony X1, but not even sure if that will be available, not sure I can draw myself to the lows for the Diamond, there was just to much going for the pro...
According to the vodafone forum, the touch pro will only be available on business contracts. The reason they give is becuase the touch pro browser can not support vodafone live.
Scheduled Vodafone Touch Pro Release Date
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
Vodafone UK
Dazz_Vodafone said:
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
Vodafone UK
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Thanks Daz, can you confirm the availability limited only to Business Contracts due to the Vodafone Live problem on the Touch Browser? If this indeed is a problem, but bear in mind the Touch Browser browser is Opera, but of course Internet Explorer is still installed on it and therefore should be ok.
OregonAird said:
Thats terrible news, I been with Orange for like 8 years.. I'm classed as a band 5 customer and always get the newest phones for free... I have loads of magic numbers. N!O!N!O !
When they say near furture. i'm hoping they mean it might be available next month!
I might have to stick it out and wait for the Sony X1, but not even sure if that will be available, not sure I can draw myself to the lows for the Diamond, there was just to much going for the pro...
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Orange says they will be doing the sony x1. He did try to make me stay with them and wait for the X1. I think you will be waiting a long time for the PRO on Orange.
Dazz_Vodafone said:
Hi all
Just to let you all know, the Touch Pro is scheduled for release for business contracts and upgrades on the 7th September. This date is provisional and may be subject to change, though we have no reason at the moment to believe it will slip.
You can keep up to date with its release by signing up for our Touch Pro availability email alerts.
Regards,
Daz
Vodafone UK
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Daz, do you have to be a business to get one, provide your VAT number etc?
^^ I would also like to know that, i take it that means it wont be available on normal contract ?
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^^ I would also like to know that, i take it that means it wont be available on normal contract ?
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If Voda are like Dell then they don't care if you use the business channels as they get the money anyway, however if their only objective is to push vodalive in everyone's face then maybe not
The touch pro is going to be people most obvious upgrade from the kaiser, which was available on a consumer contract, so why are they only offering it on a buisiness contract, if people are willing to pay on a normal consumer contract then why not take the money?
Best place to get information is from the vodafone forum.
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4669&st=100&start=100
Some quotes from vodafone staff below
Vintagewhino - I'm afraid there's been no change on this device being classified as business only, although if we hear anything regarding this you'll be amongst the first to find out. Was there a particular reason you wanted to go for the Touch Pro as opposed to the Diamond?
Its not that the HTC have hardware issues, its just that they have the business firmware loaded and as such are not compatible with the consumer services
Hi intertree
I wouldn’t be able to go into the technical details of this because there aren’t any technical reasons. This is purely a Vodafone decision.
This phone is only available for business users, so if you are not a business user, unfortunately you wouldn’t be able to get this phone. You could give our sales team a call and see if there is any way around it or see if there are any other devices that are available on consumer plans that would suit your needs.
Probably because the administrative overheads from a support point of view are higher for a device like this. They may have decided this based on a high number of support calls received for the Kaiser and took the decision to offer it to a smaller but, arguably, more competent sector of their user base.

dissapointed at Vodafone and their semi advertised lack of memory on the magic

Hi All.
I'm starting this thread to avoid discussing this in the original thread about the lack of memory on the Vodafone version of the HTC Magic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530162&page=5
Here's what I posted there.
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Hi All.
I've got a Australian Vodafone version of the magic.
I was very dissapointed after I used the unit for a while.
I loved the OS, but the displaying of things didnt seem smooth enough.
After I found out the phone has less memory than the standard HTC magic, i got pissed off and felt duped by vodafone.
I believe it is slightly deceiving for Vodafone to do this, and they should clearly say the phone has less memory that the HTC brand
Anyways, long story short.
I called vodafone australia, and after some time on the phone, I managed to talk to someone who arranged a return of my phone and cancellation of the contract.
I can give you guys the details of the person after I return mine and everything goes smooth (just in case, dont wanna piss him off before I sort mine out)
Cheers
I still haven't returned my phone, because I'm waiting for a letter and prepaid express post satchel from Vodafone.
In the meantime, I'm looking to restore to original condition with my nandroid backup.
I followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530723
but hit an error. On the restore, So i posted what happened and hopefully will get some help from one of the more experienced members.
to those others who feel pissed off sell it on ebay for ~$700 and then buy either a HTC Magic or a hero for a similar price. this way you can keep the plan you are on..... if you like it that is!
well, I followed an auction last week, and the I believe it sold for $660
I'd like to get a hero but they're not being sold yet.
I think the best option for me is return it. I'd rather play it safe.
I can always get a magic again from VF or anyone else if i feel like it.

HTC Leo Officially Announced - HTC HD2

Done a quick search but can't see anything on this here on the forum so here goes:
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/specification.html
Will one of the XDA moderators consider opening a dedicated forum for this device, now known as the HTC HD2 please?
I am toying between going straight out and buying one tomorrow morning, providing the stockists advertising them actually have the item in stock, or waiting until Christmas. Anyone else considering purchasing and of so how do we get the developers interested in doing stuff for this device?
Cheers
WB
LOL,
It was only ANNOUNCED today mate, that means you can forget about going out tomorrow and actually buy one ;-)
That said, I am going to buy one as soon as I can, hopefully somewhere around the end of october if we get lucky.
Me thinks that HTC got a best seller here, and am not worried that the XDA developers won't pick up this device anytime soon.
Until then, I keep drooling over the pics & specs
Clubbraxx,
I had a conversation with a supplier the other day and was left with the impression that some devices were already out there, waiting for today's announcement as the go-ahead for being able to release direct to the public as of now.
Needless to say I will be on the phone in the morning chasing up the said supplier and seeing what they have to say for themselves.
Just seen someone moaning about the price of the device at circa £550. Given the high-end spec of the device and taking a 3 or 4 year ownership span into account, I would say that this appears to be a reasonable price for a sim free device.
No doubt the networks will be doing their best to tie in the unwary into 3 year/multi dollar contracts to make a killing on these.
Let me know if you hear any news.
Cheers
WB
The device should be available before the end of this month. I'm looking forward to it
Btw, the device is listed on expansys for $829,99 (or €649,99).
I was told by a customer service rep at O2(UK) at the weekend, that they have the device listed for mid October release.
As an O2 customer who has a contract ending on November 1st, I am considering getting one ASAP. I am unsure however, whether to get HD2, or TP2.
QWERTY & TV out, or Monster capacitive screen. Hmmmmm.... decisions, decisions.
Any help appreciated. lol.
Please merge, so many loe threads now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143&page=77
op...what have you been smoking?
Availability Update
Following my chasing up of contacts today it looks like network providers such as o2 will have their stock to be released from mid October, ie next week. Sim free providers will not be getting their stock for release until a month later, ie mid November.
The above applies to the UK only; I have no idea what the position is elsewhere.
My order is just about to go in....
WB
Made my order today
Hi all!
What do you think of this model?
I fills my needs by 200%, but i heard that some software made for older 6 and 6.1 wont work on this new 6.5? Is that right? And i've also heard that Win mobile 7 is done. if so why did they not use win 7 on this new model?
Thanks in advance
****... I bought new Touch HD one week ago... Now I see HD2 and I'm not very happy...
stabloid said:
I was told by a customer service rep at O2(UK) at the weekend, that they have the device listed for mid October release.
As an O2 customer who has a contract ending on November 1st, I am considering getting one ASAP. I am unsure however, whether to get HD2, or TP2.
QWERTY & TV out, or Monster capacitive screen. Hmmmmm.... decisions, decisions.
Any help appreciated. lol.
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Depends on how much you would really use the TV out feature. They keyboard...thats different, for me if the on screen keyboard is at least as good as the iPhones I can dump the physical one and be happy.
Hello all
Review Video HTC HD2 – Windows Mobile 6.5 at its best
you wont find this on Youtube

HTC HD2 on O2.........

Hi all,
Release date for the HD2 on O2 was yesterday, I have been trying my utmost to get hold of one of these. Does anyone know any insider information?
I seem to be getting different info from different O2 reps.
I WANT ONE NOW!
Nobody knows - but the best guess at the moment is next week at the earliest. O2 just can't seem to answer a straight question different representatives giving different answers. It could come out this afternoon but nobody knows
looks like its been delayed until november now
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looks like its been delayed until november now
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based on what?
Gonna phone them again. They are all saying its due this week but can't tell me when. They say only once it shows on the system can they price it etc.
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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i know it's terrible waiting! i am so DESPERATE for this phone lol
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
ianmason said:
Next rep has said they are conducting tests on it and it will be released on the 26th November. I am so bloody impatient!
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The HD2 was supposed to be "in the final stages of acceptance testing" last week.
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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How they expected the Pre to sell as well as their marketing implies that they expected it to, is a mystery to me - the Pre offers very little new or exciting, with the OS being the only real exception (and I've heard a wide range of opinions on the OS). The problem is, if they hold back the HD2, they're going to end up not selling many of those as most people who want one will have moved to a different network or got one unlocked (O2 is one of the worse networks now IMHO - presumably they spent all of their money on iPhone exclusivity and subsidisation rather than improving their network and offering good deals).
Why doesn't the BBC interview O2 about the HD2 instead of wasting time interviewing them about the Pre?
I agree
Joezhang said:
Getting around all the hype, I don't think the Palm Pre has been a fantastic seller for them and I think if the HD2 drops now it will leave them with a lot of unsold Pre's.... so they are holding it back for the that reason (pure guesswork on my part).
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I think you might jus be right on that one my friend hopefully that wil teach them next time not be greedy and try to stock every handset under the sun
Yes, been pushed back to 3rd week November. However none of the reps I have spoken to are absolutely sure when it will be out, nor what the final pricing structure will be.
I am assuming they will definitely be out by December to catch the Xmas traffic.
WB
Lol,
they will be selling it on estonia at late october on early november.
T-mobile is also selling them on 6 Nov according to them. I guess O2 thinks they are special and people will wait for them
Keep an eye on this thread guys.
Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
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Ok, WHOS calling o2 everyday (Multiple times) like me?
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You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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Blimey!!
Just eager to get hold of it as soon as I can.
Moandal said:
You sad timewaster. Hassling O2 isn't going to make it arrive any sooner.
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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How do you know? One of the early excuses for an ambiguous date was that O2 didn't want the HD2 to hurt Pre sales. However, there's clearly a lot more demand for the HD2 and a lot less demand for the Pre than they expected, so O2 might decide to fast-track the HD2.
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Thing is, they were originally planning to launch the HD2 on 12th October, so that blows your theory out of the water. See here:
http://www.redmondpie.com/o2-uk-launching-htc-hd2-on-october-12-lkj621/
and various other news reports.
ianmason said:
Latest from o2;
I called customer services and spoke to a guy who said they will definitely be getting stock over the weekend and it will definitely be on sale on the 26th October. I have now spoken to quite a few o2 reps and none have sounded as positive as this one. He didn't even have to go and ask a supervisor/manager/buyer........
We shall see!
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Of course he didn't have to ask a supervisor. He was just telling you what you wanted to hear so he could get you off the line and move on to the next customer with a genuine need of assistance.
I'm not trying to be nasty, but there's no way the HD2 will be on sale from O2 on Monday, when none of the e-tailers are getting it until 11th November at the earliest. So for the next month or so, why don't you be patient, leave the poor call centre staff alone and get on with enjoying your life. It's only a phone.

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