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Hi everyone,
I think I might have a problem with this AGPS function or even the GPS itself :
Everytime I use GPSRapid (QuickGPS) to download satellites positions, when I restart my TomTom (6032) It doesn't work (it searches satellites for hours, never getting any signal)
I order to get it to work again, I change the GPS configuration in TomTom (change baud, com, or even GPS receptor, selecting tomtom wired etc...) and after a few settings I return to the initial "other GPS" / 4800 / COM4 and it works (most of the times) or will work after a soft reset.
Once it's working, it's working great. I also have this problem after intalling a new .cab ! As if there were some sort of conflict between integrated GPS and the rest of the Polaris !
Any Idea of what could be the problem or what would be a trick to solve this !?
Thanks a lot.
based on your explanation, it's possible this is a TomTom software issue. i have CoPilot Live 7, Garmin Mobile XT, iGo 2006+ and MioMap and they all work without issue after QuickGPS performs its update. within 10 seconds of launching the apps, i have a GPS signal lock on 5-7 satellites and withing 30-45 seconds, i have a lock on 8-11 satellites. sorry i can't offer a solution.
I am not so sure, I've tried with several softs and the result is the same ... Plus it does work from times to times
What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
Use the attached program to test the GPS.
It will search COM ports automatically
But I guess you can know the port from the settings tabs "External GPS" icon if it's like Kaiser
Anyway, I will be of further use in like 4 days
pjmiebach said:
What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
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ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
Great that it works
You need at least 4 though to get a fix
Kindly, post your radio info and your location and let me know how many satellites did you view (press up on dpad as the 1st screen shows only upto 8 and it can see more, hopefully)
pjmiebach said:
ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
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posting the number of satelites you receive is a bit pointless.
This will depend on many factors such as
1) The number of sats viewable at any given time in your area (the sats are not geostationary and therefore move around)
2) The location of the sats during the test - some could be close to the horizon and therefore have a week signal
3) Weather conditions, cloud rain etc,
4) Terrain
etc
etc
Basically, you are right.
But if you are fast enough, you can test several radios in the same 10 mins.
And you can judge by testing in the same place which radio is better for GPS (Fix & View).
A mention of your location will be a referrence for others.
There's a thread with more radio fuss to hold such info to be useful in the future.
Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
peter7 said:
Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
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errr It worked find with TOMTOM7 after taking like 15 min to find it's first fix. Never tried Google maps yet cause my data plan doesn't start until the 8th of Sept.
you can start google maps and check in the right menu for gps and tap that one so it uses the internal gps instead of internetconnection.
it is also a good idea to goto connectionsettings and wipe all existing connections as activesync wont require these and you can download them later from the provider website or by running the carriersetup
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
TT7 and google maps
My tt7 takes 2 - 3 minutes to get a fix.
Google maps takes about 10 secs.
If i start tt7 right after i used gm it takes about 20 secs to get a fix.
I'm gonna try gpsgate and changing the baudrate a bit, see if it helps.
I'll let you know.
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GPSGate does the trick for me.
Buy it at your fav appstore and create a new virtual com port for all NMEA progs, go to tt7 gps settings select other nmea device, select the com you just created, at max speed.
com port problem
atreidae said:
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
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My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
mzperxfl said:
My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
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Me too! :-( No, I really do not enjoy hard resets...
Another nice GPS testing software is VisualGPSce. Be sure to get that.
I wonder if the problem was with QuickGPS. VisualGPSce was telling me that it "saw" 11 satellites, but wasn't able to lock onto any of them. I know that it had worked previously, but then I had a couple of days break and QuickGPS had updated it's data during that time. After the Hard Reset, I haven't used QuickGPS.
About the performance... seems to get fix quite fast, but looses them very easily too. I tracked today a half hour buss ride and I frequently lost the connection. (Sure it was not the most optimal situation...). Also the accuracy wasn't that good - well, either the GPS or Google Maps. actually VisualGPS showed that the GPS wasn't very accurate in following what was happening. The velocity would go to 0 only about 10 seconds after the buss had stopped at trafic lights or buss stop. Actually the buss frequently took of before the GPS showed us stopped. And then it was extremely slow on catching up. On Google Maps you could see the dot still advancing when the buss had stopped for that 10 seconds. Completely off the road - but that might as well be Googles error.
I do not have TomTom on this, but certainly the speed accuracy from VisualGPSce is not nearly as accurate as my TomTom 720.
Check also that the assisted GPS is not active.
If this option is actived, you lose the signal each x seconds.
To check this option I use Advanced config.
Note : I've a Diamond and one Raphael, same configuration, the Diamond find a fix into 40sec and the Raphael takes sometimes 5min!!!.
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as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
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i find this to be true as well but the kaiser gps radio worked far better than this touch pro in every app I tried. I can put the TP in my car window and get a signal with random disconnects but if i put it in my lap i cant get anything. I could put the kaiser in my trun and be fine lol. Hopefully some upgrades to the radio software will be coming soon. Same result with me with .19 and .31
Hello,
I tested GPSTuner 5.4, VisualGPS, GoogleMaps and TomTom 7 and I have a strange problem... I installed thos programs after hard reset to be sure...
In the GPS information window the GPS position changes but the speed is always 0km/h and in TomTom or GoogleMaps my position on the map don't move...
Have you seens this problem ?
Any kind of solution ?
PLZ....
PS :
Where can I find rom &Radio version ?
What is your TomTom 7 version ?
Hello All..
this is my first post. I just received my TP today via Vodafone. I havwe sucessfully loaded on TomTom 6 and I have it working with the TT external GPS receiver.
can someone advise me whether the Touch Pro's internal GPS will work and if so, how do I go about setting it up.
PS, I only see 4 options in TT6, and none say internal.
Thanks in advance for any assistance
what to do about navigator 7 ( tomtom ) with gps 1.20 when i start tomtom the first time , it can take up to 1/2 hour to get gps signal whit the internal gps.
when i use my external globalsat gps i have signal in less then 30 secconds.
anyone has anny ideas????
Did you already use the program called "quick GPS" on »Programs?
Normally fisrt time you tried to get signal take a long time, after shoud be less time. My pro is slow, sometimes take up 2 minutes, not more.
Try to use "Quick Gps", this program can "say to GPS" your position trough GSM signal I think...
Robert
Yeah, my Pro normally takes about 2 mins, using Quick GPS. However, that's a lot slower than my Kaiser used to connect - even from cold it would often get a lock within 30s.
What I have noticed with the Pro is that although it takes a long time to get a lock, when it does it is always on 4 bars or more. Makes me wonder if there is a setting somewhere (in the registry maybe?) which tells it not to report it's connected until it has a lock on several satelites?
Is there perhaps a way to get it to connect faster, but with fewer sattelites so perhaps slightly less accurate?
Rowan
I did all what you say and still no gps fix :S
can somebody please help ???
I'm the same. I managed to get a fix using Google Maps when on the road 3 days ago, but I can no longer get a fix with the same program. I've installed TT6 and cannot get a fix - just says "No valid GPS signal". With my Nokia E90, I get a fix sitting indoors on the sofa!!
Any help anyone?
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I'm the same. I managed to get a fix using Google Maps when on the road 3 days ago, but I can no longer get a fix with the same program. I've installed TT6 and cannot get a fix - just says "No valid GPS signal". With my Nokia E90, I get a fix sitting indoors on the sofa!!
Any help anyone?
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same here and I have done everything in all of these and other posts. TO me it jeust seems the internal gps is just not as good as th kaiser was
work around
hi,
i was bothered by the same issue.
i found that googlemaps gets a fix within 10 secs.
tt7 takes 2 to 3 mins. if i start gm first and get a fix, close gm and then start tt7 i have a fix in 20 secs.
gpsgate has the same effect. i created a virtual com port with gpsgate, and selected that port in tt7.
i prefer the gm workaround because gpsgate is not free and has to be terminated every time after use, or it`ll drain the battery.
please post your results if you try this yourself.
start quickgps and download the new file.
start tt7 and choose built in gps.
exit tt7
turn device off (long press on powerbutton)
turn it on
wait for it to boot and start tt7 and wait till it has found the gps.
walk to an open area and keep walking. it will find a fix faster that way.
Delete the Logs
This has worked for me...
Was having loads of problems with TT7 and googlemaps (altho that performed better than TT7)
Spotted elsewhere on this site (sorry, dont remember where exactly, was for a different phone tho...)
DELETE THE GPS LOGS!
Power down the phone, once its restarted, in file explorer, delete the GPS logfiles from the windows directory. (sorry, cant remember their exact names, but they're pretty obvious).
Now TT7 works reliably.
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This has worked for me...
Was having loads of problems with TT7 and googlemaps (altho that performed better than TT7)
Spotted elsewhere on this site (sorry, dont remember where exactly, was for a different phone tho...)
DELETE THE GPS LOGS!
Power down the phone, once its restarted, in file explorer, delete the GPS logfiles from the windows directory. (sorry, cant remember their exact names, but they're pretty obvious).
Now TT7 works reliably.
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GPSLogFile
GPSLogFileBack
deleted these and it seems to make tomtom find the gps faster and work better .. but still the reception is not that great..
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest satellite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
SOLUTION:
If you've installed AT&T Navigator, uninstall it. Be sure to call 611 and make sure that you were not charged the GPS service charge on this month's cycle.
Either the HTC guy didn't know his stuff, or this just happens to work around the "Telenav-Only" Block.
I've successfully gotten repeated locks on Google Maps without the use of Telenav. It's not even installed. Here's the procedure to get a (relatively) fast GPS lock:
If you don't already have it, download Advanced Configuration Tool v3.3 (or newer) (see here: http://touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html) (needs .Net Compact Framework 3.5. see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...act-framework-3-5-without-upgrading-your-rom/).
In the Advanced Configuration Tool go to GPS. Make sure the subsettings are as follows: (the last one is 32KB if you were wondering)
Assisted GPS: Enabled
Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt
Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
Max. log file size: 32768
Next, download and install GPS Test 1.04 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129672&d=1226619670)
Now, every time after a soft-reset (or each day) you want to use the GPS, perform the following actions:
Run QuickGPS and download new satellite info.
Run GPS Test (ensure that GPS settings are on COM4 and a baud rate of 38400).
GPS Test will give you a bar and a signal strength indicator for each satellite. The fix process can take a couple minutes, but just give it some time. Upon getting a 3D lock, it will display "GPS Running".
At this point, you can exit GPS Test and open up Google Maps, TomTom, Garmin, iGo, whatever map tool you use. The navigation app should get a quick (< 30 seconds) fix with anywhere from 7-10 satellites depending on location. It will continue to do this until a long duration of time has passed (I'm talking 5-10 hrs (haven't tested)) or until a Soft-Reset.
This procedure worked for me. I don't know if it'll work for everybody, but I think it's pretty reasonable, the wait time isn't too long for a GPS fix. Good luck and god speed, gentlemen. Let me know if this works for y'all or not.
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Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine does too - I think you may want to check out the numerous GPS threads on here on how people corrected theirs. I have been busy doing other stuff to worry about the GPS, so I haven't tried any of their advice, but there are Tons of threads on the GPS issue.
i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
m.carroll said:
Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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Mine works, but so far only at home sitting in an east-facing window. Have you tried calling HTC Support? I called about another matter and got an answer right away. The US number is: 866-449-8358.
Let us know how you make out if you call!
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i'll look into it, although i didnt think it was the same issue...
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Most people are just complaining about lag, but there are a few posts about people having trouble getting a fix. It looks like tomtom and the gps tool are trying, but they just won't get a fix. I even stood outside in the cold for 30 minutes, and it never would work. I made all the changes with advanced config and also the manual registry changes... pretty much every suggestion I've found in all the other threads, but nothing works. If I happen to come across a solution, I'll definitely pass it on... but I'm less than optimistic at this point.
I had the same issue - I grabbed the Diamond TomTom cab (from diamond forum - no maps needed) and was able to see the progress of locking in the satelites.. It took about 10 minutes of the phone sitting outside to get a lock for GPS. Now that it has locked once (I have rebooted several times btw) it seems to pick up the lock a lot faster.
And.. I have not tweaked my GPS settings and a-gps is still enabled.
The GPS is a little shotty if you ask me.. I'm sure something will be changed in software down the road to speed up getting a lock.
I have the same issue
Google maps just keeps timing out
google maps wont work for me
Not sure if this will help or not, but I had mucked with my GPS com port settings (under Settings, GPS Settings).
For Programs: Com4
For Hardware: (None)
Baud Rate 4800
For Access: Manage GPS automatically (recommended) --- Is checked.
In Google Maps, I have the "Managed by Windows" radio button selected.
Doing that allowed me to pull up the satellites in about 10 mins the first time, then a lot more quickly after that.
I have no idea what that actually did, but it made GPS work in google maps for me.
I think it would be a good idea to get a program that shows you GPS lock status, so you can see which satellites are detected and their signal strength. Other than that, just leave the phone outside with a clear view of the sky for a little while and see what happens.
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Hey all, I picked up my Fuze yesterday at a local AT&T store, and I'm really happy with it with the exception of one thing: I can't get the GPS to work. I've downloaded Google Maps Mobile, installed it. I ran QuickGPS to download the latest sattelite data, and Google Maps still just sits there and says "Seeking GPS Satellites (0)..."
Any ideas or any settings I need before this works?
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I had the same problem at work. I think GPS will work outside. Mine started working with Google Map and Live Search when I was driving.
If that still doesn't work, try install at&t navigator. Maybe it will unlock the GPS.
GPS solution
Hi all I spoke with HTC and you need to download and enable Telenav to activate the GPS. It did not ask me to sign up there is basic turn by turn once it is downloaded and gives you the option to upgrade. Once telenav was installed google maps found satelites within 30 seconds. hope this helps
Ah, that explains why it worked for me -- when I bought my Fuze, I let the salesman sign me up for the 30-day free trial of Telenav. I expect to cancel it, but I was curious to see what it was like.
Same worked for me. I tried the 30 day free trial and now the GPS works. TeleNav doesn't even seem that bad since it checks traffic for you...
No GPS lagging behind reporting your position like the TP?
I have not seen any lag. it is very quick
so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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so basically telenav unlocks the gps and then after one use, it unlocks the gps for use with tomtom or garmin?
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Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
hondaguyjoe said:
Man this seems kind of shady on At&ts part...
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Seriously. Didn't you ask why?. Or question this since its an apparant marketing ploy. I heard the same for tomtom. It took my gps a while to to get the first time but after then it locked significantly faster.
i agree, it is shady, but in the end, it works. i got a perfect signal (locked into 6 satellites) with google maps, almost instantly (after connecting once with telenav).
its smart on at&t's part, but now i'm going to look at the cab and see if i can find what makes it work!
can anyone upload the telenav app so i can unlock my gps. i dont have the stock rom anymore(changed to natf rom) and telenav isnt on there.
ive searched and searched, but am yet to find the answer....
i cant remember when, or what i had installed or unistalled etc, but one day, tomtom would never display any satellites in range.
i know it is locked on to satellites though, as it functions as per usual, i just dont understand why i doesnt display it in the program. all other programs work fine, its just this one.
its not "important" because the main thing is that it works, it would be nice to know what was causing the problem though. if anybody has any ideas, id like to hear them
You have to upgrade to v7.910.9185 to fix this.
I changed the RadioROM - from that day I have the same issue. Google Maps shows satellites, HTC GPS Tool shows satellites, only TomTom doesn't.
Let me try and shed some light on this.
I used Tom Tom with the default settings of:
Other NMEA GPS receiver and baud rate 4500 (well the one everyone was recommending)
Locks were so damn poor,
I purchased Nav n Go IGO8 and used same settings and pap, same results. Then by sheer luck decided to as it has a option to do so, set the GPS to AUTO. It then got great instant lock but on COM 4 Baud Rate 57600.
So then went back to TOM TOM and changed it to this and worked a TREAT.
Now i have Tom Tom 7.910 along with Nav n Go IGO8 but rarely use Tom Tom, as IGO8 is so much better in functionality.
Let us know if this helps you as i suspect it will help others.
make sure location mode is on in settings to activate GPS , and you are unlocked (if Verizon)
turns out it was the rom... i was on NRGs Series 1 Rom, but not on the latest 41609 build... updated, and now, miraculously, i have my satellites back!
but your consistent 15 second aGPS fixes may be history now. The new GPS drivers are what is breaking the TomTom display.