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After much digging and digging, I cant seem to find the glorious palm pre rom any where! I've seen videos for it on youtube and that about it. I searched the forums here and google. Found nothing!
I currently have Qteks Hero rom installed. I don't have any weird issues with it besides it being stupid slow, and tolerable with touchflo turned off. I would like to check out a speedier rom.
If that doesn't work, Im seriously debating about going back to googles official cupcake since there "flan" update is just around the corner!
Where can I find the palm pre rom for 32b?
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After much digging and digging, I cant seem to find the glorious palm pre rom any where! I've seen videos for it on youtube and that about it. I searched the forums here and google. Found nothing!
I currently have Qteks Hero rom installed. I don't have any weird issues with it besides it being stupid slow, and tolerable with touchflo turned off. I would like to check out a speedier rom.
If that doesn't work, Im seriously debating about going back to googles official cupcake since there "flan" update is just around the corner!
Where can I find the palm pre rom for 32b?
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Probably not around these forums..
Probably not going to find it anywhere, because palm threatened to sue people for that theme
ExTREmE99 said:
Probably not going to find it anywhere, because palm threatened to sue people for that theme
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I did read an argument about that, but I would have suspected that it would have been around. What would you suggest besides Hero ROM? IMO its a little wonky, and it see,s like that for everyone else to.
I dunno; I've been running evil hero 1.8 since it was released a few days ago, and have had no issues with it (it actually seemed smoother than the actual Hero hardware that I played with earlier today!)
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Joking aside, if you're not running Cyanogen, you're only running your device at about half capacity. Hero roms are very pretty and all, but not usable in my opinion for daily phone use.
There are many themes over in the Dream theme forum which will work fine over the top of Cyan on a Magic. I recommend the community Hero theme, glossy edition.
If all you've ever run is stock and Hero, you'll be in for a treat with that combination. In fact (blowing my own trumpet here) grab my mods to the browser (see my sig) and you won't be missing much from Hero at all.
Loccy said:
In before a passing mod napalms this thread.
Joking aside, if you're not running Cyanogen, you're only running your device at about half capacity. Hero roms are very pretty and all, but not usable in my opinion for daily phone use.
There are many themes over in the Dream theme forum which will work fine over the top of Cyan on a Magic. I recommend the community Hero theme, glossy edition.
If all you've ever run is stock and Hero, you'll be in for a treat with that combination. In fact (blowing my own trumpet here) grab my mods to the browser (see my sig) and you won't be missing much from Hero at all.
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Bit of a disservice to JACxRom's dont you think?
Loccy said:
In before a passing mod napalms this thread.
Joking aside, if you're not running Cyanogen, you're only running your device at about half capacity. Hero roms are very pretty and all, but not usable in my opinion for daily phone use.
There are many themes over in the Dream theme forum which will work fine over the top of Cyan on a Magic. I recommend the community Hero theme, glossy edition.
If all you've ever run is stock and Hero, you'll be in for a treat with that combination. In fact (blowing my own trumpet here) grab my mods to the browser (see my sig) and you won't be missing much from Hero at all.
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I searched the dream theme forum for "community Hero" and couldn't find the theme you are referring to, do you have a link?
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I searched the dream theme forum for "community Hero" and couldn't find the theme you are referring to, do you have a link?
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Thusly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541242
As for jacxrom v Cyan, in my humble opinion it's no context - although both are infintely better than running stock.
Here's a thought.
Possibly put in a formal request...other than Palm's infinite power to file a lawsuit for anything looking too similar; there isn't much to worry about.
I think that a fully fashioned Palm Pre theme would be pretty kick ass.
(Just my opinion folks.)
Ok, So the "Community Hero" looks awesome! Im cunfused on how to load the theme on my MT3G 32B. Do I apply it like I did Qtek? (Flash, Partition the drive into 3, load rom as updat.zip?
Loccy said:
In before a passing mod napalms this thread.
Joking aside, if you're not running Cyanogen, you're only running your device at about half capacity. Hero roms are very pretty and all, but not usable in my opinion for daily phone use.
There are many themes over in the Dream theme forum which will work fine over the top of Cyan on a Magic. I recommend the community Hero theme, glossy edition.
If all you've ever run is stock and Hero, you'll be in for a treat with that combination. In fact (blowing my own trumpet here) grab my mods to the browser (see my sig) and you won't be missing much from Hero at all.
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I have to completly disagree with you on the Hero is not usable every day. I have used a version everyday since June on my G1 and now everyday for that last month on mytouch with no issues and I use one of these phones everyday. Browser, Texting, calls, widgets, everything.
I second that hero is nice but not for My everyday use, especially when dealing with tons of emails and needing a bluetooth head set to talk.
OP PM me for your original request. Seems like its about to turn into UFC rom fight in here
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Ok, So the "Community Hero" looks awesome! Im cunfused on how to load the theme on my MT3G 32B. Do I apply it like I did Qtek? (Flash, Partition the drive into 3, load rom as updat.zip?
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Right.
Do a wipe, including your sd card
Flash cyanogen 4.0.4
Let it boot once
Flash the theme over the top of it (do NOT wipe)
And you should be good to go.
i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
I'm just going to say that you need to find the answers to your own questions.
Start here.
Rick Chase said:
i just started browsing this site a few days and am very impressed with the whole community..
anyway, i just swapped out my samsung epix for an htc fuze and love the phone so far. I've already succesfully removed the at&t tab, fixed the small mms issue, and changed the default device.home.
thats apperently the the tip of the iceberg as far as customizing this phone goes. I am now interested in a different rom. I've noticed a lot of good things about the energyrom 2.0/3.0 and am very interested but also hesitant to flash my phone since i only just got it and dont want to void any warranties.
my quesions;
1. whats the latest energyrom 2.0 build? (maybe give me a dl link)
2. does the rom come with a bunch of apps im not gonna use?
3. Do i need to flash the radio before/after the rom or at all?
4. and which radio is best?
tia, im looking forward to learning more as this phone will do until i get the touch pro 2 or whatever comes next.
edit: i do realize there is a wiki and have been studying it, i've also seen the rom flashing for noobs section and have a rough idea that hardspl is a failsafe should anything go wrong
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Welcome to forums
Energy ROM is great!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
im still iffy on going to a 6.5 rom cause i guess its still a beta version on winmo (i think) so i was more thinkin on 6.1, i dont need newest just something different from stock but stable as well.
i was lookin at this list (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Cooked_WM6.1_ROMs) and noticed energyrom 2.0 build 41609 was the newest but the thread link doesnt work.
i clicked the energyrom 1.0 build 32609 thread link and it brought me to a thread for energyrom 1.0 build 41609.....is that the same as energyrom 2.0 build 41609?
i also looked around and noticed the radio is untouched with just a rom flash so ill leave that alone for now. thank you for showing me how to use google anyway.
I am using 6.5 EnergyROM. It's very stable. Try it. The radio in my signature really works well in Northern California.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
aight, i think i will. thanks again for the info.
i flashed the rom to the energy 6.5 rom and am pretty amazed at people are willing to do for free. now ive only messed with it for about an hour but am loving it.
the only thing im worried about is how high the memory usage will go and how the battery life is affected..
Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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Depends how she uses her phone... what firmware she wants (1.6 or 2.1) and either Vanilla Donut or s Sense rom
Needs more details on exactly which MyTouch 3G it is, as right now there's 4 variants
- MyTouch 3G (v1) with 32B SPL (aka Magic 32B)
- MyTouch 3G (v1) with 32A SPL (aka Magic 32A)
- MyTouch 3G LE (Limited Edition Fender, 32A)
- MyTouch 3G 1.2 (32A with headphone jack)
The last two are essentially identical, and are currently the only two MyTouch 3Gs actively sold (other than any old stock of the v1), but is also the only ones that has no real custom roms, if you want to root the last two you have to read very carefully which procedure you're using since its not the same ones as the Magic 32B/A. For example the only real working rooting process is linked in my signature for the last two and currently limited to the stock rom as being the fully functional one.
As you're probably already aware with your Sprint phone... you shouldn't just blindly flash radios/boots etc as you find them cuz it wouldn't be hard at all to brick the Fender or MyTouch 3G 1.2, by flashing a radio intended for the older MyTouches (ie: any thread that talks about Magic 32A or 32B)
I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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Since it doesn't have the 3.5mm headphone jack on top, it would be the original MyTouch 3G, which leaves you a lot of options both 32A and 32B (though you'll see a lot more choices including Cyanogenmod for 32B).
If she were to downgrade back to the 1.5 rom, I think CM has a one-click-rooting capability.
Instructions can be found here. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod
After completion should have a rooted 1.6 cyanogenmod rom.
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Like the title says I am new to the Mytouch. I rooted my Sprint Hero about a month ago and I love what I was able to get out of it. My girlfriend seeing my happiness with it has since asked me if it would make her Mytouch run better. So basically she wants me to root her phone and add a good ROM. I have herard of cyanogen and all but what would be a good daily Rom for her. Just something quicker and better on battery. I know what setcpu can do for my phone. But whats the best for a MyTouch3g? Thank you in advance.
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I would be looking for a 1.6 build. I wanna give her something daily/stable and usable. Vanilla is fine seeing thats what she is used to. I duno what version of the MYTouch it is I know its not a Fender and it doesnt have the 3.5 mm headphone jack. When she bought it it was 1.5 and like a day later it upped to 1.6. Like with my phone I am doing my research. Dont wanna brick her phone. She would kill me and cut me in my sleep.
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In that case i think Cyanogen is perfect because it's stable and usually gets updated every month or so and not all the time every week got to flash a new update with new problems
Yes I am very new to android. I managed to root mythouch 3g 1.2 to the fender rooted rom. I am just confused completely on the 2.1 roms. What is porting? I did the unlocker method with no problem. I had an epic fail trying to install a 2.1 rom! Mainly cuz I can't figure out what the heck all this porting and partitioning is. Any help would be appreciated so much!!
All that you can read here on these sits.
It must be the 32b that has messed me up. For some reason I thought the 3.5mm jack was on the 32a. That would be a good reason for that rom not working. Man I'm getting bad at this kinda stuff.
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It must be the 32b that has messed me up. For some reason I thought the 3.5mm jack was on the 32a. That would be a good reason for that rom not working. Man I'm getting bad at this kinda stuff.
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NOOOO.. the 1.2/fender are ALL 32a boards. There are NO 2.1 roms for our phones yet because the drivers/kernel source have not been released. So for now, just use some of our themed roms. They work great and look great.
Again, NO 2.1 roms will work.
I had one pull up but touch screen was not working. I'm begging to think they just threw this phone together. I see some say there r roms but they have no bt and youtube. Or am I just that lost? I can live without bt and video.
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I had one pull up but touch screen was not working. I'm begging to think they just threw this phone together. I see some say there r roms but they have no bt and youtube. Or am I just that lost? I can live without bt and video.
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Ok...
HTC has not released the source for the new touch screen drivers or 3.5 jack. So, if you would have read ont he instructions you used to root the phone, there are no special roms for our phones yet. Thrown together? It has a brand new touch screen and a new headphone jack that was not in the older version = no way to use them yet.
So, in these instructions you rushed through, you would have read that the only roms we have are the fender rom and the themed roms.
We have one 2.1 rom working from STokes. But you have to search it down in these forums under the Mytouch 1.2/fender threads.
Not trying to be an ass here, but its obvious you did not read fully before rooting your phone.
Thanks for the help! I was misunderstanding my phone config. I thought I had the 32a. That's why I was lost! Sorry! Although I did read it....and flashed it too! That's why my phone went stupid on me! Boy did I miss a big one there! Well I do appreciate the help all the same! That cleared all my confusion up.
Ok my phone says its a 32a ships s-on G. So how is that correct and work?
hammer4203 said:
Ok my phone says its a 32a ships s-on G. So how is that correct and work?
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.. what are you asking? You showed us what board your phone is using, sooooo what? I need better english to understand you. I have no idea what "how is that correct and work" means. I hope you're not giving us your phones information so we can hold your hand and take you through step by step.
I also don't understand how you can't find information about all this porting and partitioning. I'm a normal member like you, how was I able to find all this information on these forums and google but you can't?
Can you do me a favour and start researching yourself rather than asking a bunch of questions that are already answered. You've already posted in the wrong section, and you obviously haven't tried hard enough. You didn't know if you had a 32A or 32B at first, which is the most basic thing of all. This is why people like you brick their phones. You totally just guessed which board you have.
Then you complain about the touch screen issues when it's all explained in the process of how to root it, wow. Get ready for flames if you continue to fail like this. Please read things more thoroughly and post in the right section.
What I guess I am trying to ask is the G or H relevent in any way? I understand the boards. I have been told It was a 32b then when I rooted it I rooted the wrong file. Which would have bricked it. That is why I am asking all the questions. It works fine with the fender root. It just doesn't seem to work loading any 2.1 rom at all. And yes I have tried 32a and 32b. The 32b 2.1 loads without the touch screen working. 32a 2.1 doesn't do a thing, just freezes. Does that help explain it a little better for you?
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What I guess I am trying to ask is the G or H relevent in any way? I understand the boards. I have been told It was a 32b then when I rooted it I rooted the wrong file. Which would have bricked it. That is why I am asking all the questions. It works fine with the fender root. It just doesn't seem to work loading any 2.1 rom at all. And yes I have tried 32a and 32b. The 32b 2.1 loads without the touch screen working. 32a 2.1 doesn't do a thing, just freezes. Does that help explain it a little better for you?
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Did you not read this at all?
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NOOOO.. the 1.2/fender are ALL 32a boards. There are NO 2.1 roms for our phones yet because the drivers/kernel source have not been released. So for now, just use some of our themed roms. They work great and look great.
Again, NO 2.1 roms will work.
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Ok...
HTC has not released the source for the new touch screen drivers or 3.5 jack. So, if you would have read ont he instructions you used to root the phone, there are no special roms for our phones yet. Thrown together? It has a brand new touch screen and a new headphone jack that was not in the older version = no way to use them yet.
So, in these instructions you rushed through, you would have read that the only roms we have are the fender rom and the themed roms.
We have one 2.1 rom working from STokes. But you have to search it down in these forums under the Mytouch 1.2/fender threads.
Not trying to be an ass here, but its obvious you did not read fully before rooting your phone.
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This is where I wound up and why!!! So flame away, but I was lead to that by this reply. WOW! I guess I'm not the only one that can make a mistake now am I? Stokes pointed me to the right direction for the file I really need to get 2.1 on my phone. I didn't mean to get everyone so angry! Thanks though!!
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This is where I wound up and why!!! So flame away, but I was lead to that by this reply. WOW! I guess I'm not the only one that can make a mistake now am I? Stokes pointed me to the right direction for the file I really need to get 2.1 on my phone. I didn't mean to get everyone so angry! Thanks though!!
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You got a 32b 2.1 rom to boot??? which one please. If you can get it to boot, we can then flash the kernel over, reboot, and get things working.
I wasnt flaming you, I was mearly pointing out the fact that every single thing you asked, you would have had to have known before rooting the phone.
Yours says G... which makes no sense considering its a 32a HTC branded phone (maybe the 1.2's are different? because the fender is an HTC branded board.
We here, just get tired of people that say they have searched... yet its blatently obvious it doesnt.
Now that stokes has given you the 2.1 rom..... Now we have to hear you ask 15 times now why the Bluetooth and Wifi wont work.....
Stokes 2.1 loaded for me and it is 32b. Just the touch screen didn't work. I would say if it wasn't for my phone it shouldn't have had the droid saying touch to start. None of the others did that at all. Here is where I got it from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624411
I saw bt and video issue. I just wanted to see how cool it looked. I don't watch video on the phone anyway.
nevermind nevermind
hammer4203 said:
Stokes 2.1 loaded for me and it is 32b. Just the touch screen didn't work. I would say if it wasn't for my phone it shouldn't have had the droid saying touch to start. None of the others did that at all. Here is where I got it from.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624411
I saw bt and video issue. I just wanted to see how cool it looked. I don't watch video on the phone anyway.
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Oh now.. we have a fuly working stokes port working minus BT with touch screen. I was gona post it fo ryou but max file limit here is to small. Tomorrow when im not drunk Ill search a link down or get stokes to give me direct link. Im running it right now andf other then BT and youtube not working, it is so purdy with the live wallpapers. with the extra 32a ram, it runs just as well as the nexus one. If you have talked to stokes, ask him for his 1.41 Fender/LE port. Full wipe, Skip google sign in and sign in through market for sync. After that you will be very happy .
So the 2.1 rom works?
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Oh now.. we have a fuly working stokes port working minus BT with touch screen. I was gona post it fo ryou but max file limit here is to small. Tomorrow when im not drunk Ill search a link down or get stokes to give me direct link. Im running it right now andf other then BT and youtube not working, it is so purdy with the live wallpapers. with the extra 32a ram, it runs just as well as the nexus one. If you have talked to stokes, ask him for his 1.41 Fender/LE port. Full wipe, Skip google sign in and sign in through market for sync. After that you will be very happy .
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Did he release on that has fixed Wifi? The last link I saw posted was missing the fixed wlan file.
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So the 2.1 rom works?
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Yea ... here's the port
port_Stokes_Eclair.zip
You have to push the wlan.ko file to get wifi working though.
Is the one referenced here newer or older than the link you posted?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6085708#post6085708
(taken from engadget)
Droid, Milestone, Eris, Moment, Spica, even the Hero, all have had their Eclair, one way or another. G1 and myTouch 3G? Not so much. But don't worry, Android early adopters, because Cyanogen's got your back. Most all the bells, whistles and hardware-accelerated graphics of Android 2.1 are coming to the HTC Dream, Magic and Sapphire in CyanogenMod 5.0.7, and you can see a video of a T-Mobile G1 running the new build after the break. Twitter buzz indicates the ROM will be out any minute now; the dev himself tweeted that it's ready to go and just needs G1-friendly bite size packaging.
There is video also.
Tried to submit with links but got "To prevent spam to the forums, new users are not permitted to post outside links in their messages. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed."
Got to engadget(dot)com to see.
engadget(dot)com/2010/04/29/cyanogen-ports-android-2-1-to-g1-and-mytouch-3g/
www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=3HVBVlAui3s&feature=player_embedded
Update: Don't stay up all night waiting -- Cyanogen says he's got "two more bugs to kill" and is "hoping for a test1 public beta tomorrow night."
Sweet this is really gonna annoy my bro xD he's been banging on about his nexus and how much it cost and how great 2.1 is
what about 32A?
this looks great!!!!...cannot wait for this to come out. I have tried some other various ports of the 2.1 they all seemed very choopy and needed alot more work... I am a very busy guy that needs stuff to work when I tap the screen to make it work, Cant wait around for things to happen....Cyanogen's build looks very smooth and responds very well....when will we know when it gets released?
For the latest news, including the release (which should be tonight according to cyanogen) you can keep an eye on twitter(DOT)com/cyanogen
I haven't really looked forward to the release of a ROM in a while. If what Cyanogen is saying in his Twitter is all correct (everything working with 2.1), then this one is the one.
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I haven't really looked forward to the release of a ROM in a while. If what Cyanogen is saying in his Twitter is all correct (everything working with 2.1), then this one is the one.
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I totally agree with you on this one.....I was having a hard time putting the latest super D rom back onto my G1 after flashing one of the other 2.1 ports...so I am now currently running [ROM]TheOfficial DONUT TMO, ADP & AOSP (dream/magic)(EBI0/EBI1) [3/17/2010] -- v2.6.3 (which is also found here btw) with the Buuf theme...it is an alright ROM but this 2.1 port that Mr. Cyanogen released with help with other various "modders"....it looks great...flashin it as I am typing (YAY)
THANX TO ALL MODDERS INVOLVED WITH THIS BUILD
just a quick thought....i just finished flashing this rom to my G1 and I was thinking that it would be cool to add the nexus "X" boot screen that would cross over into the cyanogen symbol....would try to make it myself but I do not have the slightest clue on how to do that!!
Just to let everyone know the rom is up and running great. I got it on my mt3g 32B. Only thing is that the LED notification light is purple. Could anyone please tell me how to change it. thanks.
Does this work with the mytouch 1.2 with 3.5 jack? I am new to this and hoping to get some help. I just want to make sure I got this right.
1. Backup my phone. What do I use to do this?
2. Root my phone.
3. Flash phone with new rom.
If anyone could point me in the right direction on how to flash a phone I would appreciate it. Thanks
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just a quick thought....i just finished flashing this rom to my G1 and I was thinking that it would be cool to add the nexus "X" boot screen that would cross over into the cyanogen symbol....would try to make it myself but I do not have the slightest clue on how to do that!!
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yes i know that I am quoting one of my previous posts but....THIS ROM IS F-IN AWESOME
GREAT JOB MODDERS!!!!!