Hey Guys:
Here is an old but challengable subject to discussion:
( before going to discussion I must appreciate GSM Coolhawk for his message on Modify any USB GPS to XDA Serial RS232, afterrnoon project and also chat with me)
XDA and many of other handhels and ppcs dont support SDIO. But we have ActiveSync Port that support USB and RS 232. However these devices act as a slave USB so we cant connect any usb prepherals.
IS it possible we use an "USB to RS232 Converter" to convert output signal of prepheral devices as a readable signal for ActiveSync port of XDA device?
Thanks
yes it would be possible
problem nr 1
usb1.1 is 12Mbit /Sec
usb2 is 480Mbit /Sec
old style serial rs232 is about 160Kb/sec
many a device would malfunction if it's return signals from the master were delayed that much
problem nr 2
even the usb to serial and parallel ports you can get for using on pc's are not 100% transparent and many devices have problems with them (usb to serial and parallel ment as in you connect old devices to your converter which connect to the serial port)
problem nr 3
drivers you would still have to write drivers for all usb devices you wanted to use unless the manufactor already had the same device in a serial version and therefor a driver which would control it using rs232
so yeah it's possible
not really worth it imho
and as a replacement for the lack of a SDIO it would be easier and cheaper to buy a new device
Dear all, I just want to know,
is it possible to connect normal USB keyboard to PDA through, let's say a kind of connector ?
Sorry for my silly question
not an usb keyboard as himalaya dont have the hardware to be an usb host
which mean it can only be connected to over usb not connect itself
there are keyboards which use IR and bluetooth which works ok
and keyboards which use normal rs232 serial which is also connected to the button connector of himalaya
Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to plug external USB devices on the HTC S730 (with adapter). E.g. external hard drive or cardreader?
Would be amazing
I have not seen a program yet which can do this.
The Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox T830 was able to do that.
You were able to switch between client / host in the USB settings.
But I think if this function really exists, then it is rather hardware dependend than software dependend.
Anyways, maybe someone has an USB adapter to test this for us
This is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_ExtUSB
hi, it is posible to connect/read a usb device to the phone (dream). something like a usb stick or a digital camera?
I asked on three different forums if Android or Debian can access USB mass storage device, without a reply from anyone.
ok, thanks for your answer. i hope, someone knows about
My initial thought would be no. But I think it would be possible with a program or some process/service running on the phone.
Joystick options appeared to be limited for most of us, so I'm posting this thread to help generate interest in finding a universal workaround - and to start tossing around ideas. Here are mine;
USB to mini USB: Could a joystick be rewired to use a mini USB jack? Seems like you would only need drivers to get it to work.
HTC 4-in-1 Cable: The HTC Athena (aka Advantage) has a cable that provides a normal USB jack. With it you can connect a mouse and keyboard, and using this driver you can even connect a joystick. I'm wondering, if we could just get a proper mini USB cable, maybe this driver would work on other devices? Someone was able to get a USB joystick to work on a Toshiba TG01, so I have hope!
BGP100 Gamepad (MSI and Chainpus): Unfortunately, support for this gamepad stopped and the drivers don't seem to work on newer phones (with few exceptions).
Please try to be constructive with the ideas/feedback. Hopefully by pooling our resources we can come up with a mutually beneficial solution.
Id like a workaround for this aswell, especially for the HD2 when it comes out
I spoke with 'i900frenchaddict' from FPSEce. He was able to get a joystick to work on his Toshiba TG01 by buying a USB A Female to Mini USB B 5 Pin Male adapter and using the hidgamep.dll driver.
I've got a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rodium). I just ordered the adapter and I'm going to try to get it to work. I'll post my results later.
connecting anything to the usb port and getting it to work require a device which support usbHost
Athena is as far as I know the only htc wm device out which support usbHost
Has anyone explored porting the usbhost files over from Athena? Is this something that needs to be cooked in or can it be installed manually with a few registry tweaks?
Ravicai said:
Has anyone explored porting the usbhost files over from Athena? Is this something that needs to be cooked in or can it be installed manually with a few registry tweaks?
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A USB host port is hardware based; it cannot be ported by any software means. Rudegar is right about the Athena being the only HTC device with a USB host capabilities, but phones from other manufactures have this feature, such as the TG01. Maybe someday HTC will catch on, but current HTC devices don't have this feature (exception is Athena).
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
A USB host port is hardware based; it cannot be ported by any software means. Rudegar is right about the Athena being the only HTC device with a USB host capabilities, but phones from other manufactures have this feature, such as the TG01. Maybe someday HTC will catch on, but current HTC devices don't have this feature (exception is Athena).
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Bummer. That effectively kills the USB option.
Looks like Bluetooth is the only way to go. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the BGP100 is the only offering at the moment - and it only works on some phones.
Anybody want to take a crack at updating the drivers to work with newer phones like the HTC Touch Pro 2?
Hi!
Yes, it works like a charm on my TG01, thanks again!
What I wonder, is if it may work on a device without a supposed "real USB host" function.
I don't have the correct adapter to plug a pad yet, but one thing is sure: my omnia has the same registry, so it was possible to create the new keys exactly like on my TG01.
Well, my adapter should arrive tomorrow. So I'll experiment and see what happens.
No surprise. The cable didn't work.
I'd be nice if someone made a Bluetooth USB host device with 2 USB ports on it. Then all we need is a driver to work with WM and BAM... everyone can now use USB devices! I imagine such a device would sell pretty good.
Either that or HTC needs to start including the USB host on all future phones. This will definitely be the deal breaker for my next phone... unless of course it happens to have a usable d-pad (haha, fat chance in this touchscreen obsessed world).
Only thing left to do now is hope some kind dev updates the BGP100 drivers *wink* *wink*
Speaking of Bluetooth, it would be nice if someone managed to code Wiimote+Classic Controller or Sixaxis/DualShock 3 drivers for Windows Mobile. The input devices in question already use Bluetooth, and I've never perceived any control latency-it's just a matter of drivers.
Too bad about the lack of USB host, though. I actually thought most HTC devices ever since the Touch Diamond/Pro had it built-in already judging by the USB port shape, and that you'd just need an adapter to use the host capability.
Funny thing is that the Sprint version of the HTC Touch Pro 2 has the Qualcomm MSM7600 chipset which actually has embedded support for USB OTG HS. Yet somewhere along the line someone must have disabled the functionally (much like they disable the radio).
I would venture a guess that the MSM7200a chipset has the same support, but disabled of course.
Edit: Yup, it does.
Confirmed the BGP100 is not working on the HD2. I get "connection error..insufficient memory"
I think that BGP100 is not compatible with the wisdom stack. if we can find a way to use the ms stack we should be fine. so far ia have not found on instructions on how to change the stack.
By the way the Video of the Omina II on your first post is mine
msi & tp2
Ravicai said:
Joystick options appeared to be limited for most of us, so I'm posting this thread to help generate interest in finding a universal workaround - and to start tossing around ideas. Here are mine;
USB to mini USB: Could a joystick be rewired to use a mini USB jack? Seems like you would only need drivers to get it to work.
HTC 4-in-1 Cable: The HTC Athena (aka Advantage) has a cable that provides a normal USB jack. With it you can connect a mouse and keyboard, and using this driver you can even connect a joystick. I'm wondering, if we could just get a proper mini USB cable, maybe this driver would work on other devices? Someone was able to get a USB joystick to work on a Toshiba TG01, so I have hope!
BGP100 Gamepad (MSI and Chainpus): Unfortunately, support for this gamepad stopped and the drivers don't seem to work on newer phones (with few exceptions).
Please try to be constructive with the ideas/feedback. Hopefully by pooling our resources we can come up with a mutually beneficial solution.
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I have a msi bt gamepad and a tp2. so far I have been able to connect using my bt settings and something called spp slave (its some type of serial port) but without updated divers formy device i cant do much more :-/ since i have little tech know how i am stuck here. I have heard that the bgp 100 works for the HD 2 (they have the same bt stack I think) so what gives?
Significant development! Updated bluetooth drivers are now available for the BGP100 gamepad. See this thread for details;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595679