Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to plug external USB devices on the HTC S730 (with adapter). E.g. external hard drive or cardreader?
Would be amazing
I have not seen a program yet which can do this.
The Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox T830 was able to do that.
You were able to switch between client / host in the USB settings.
But I think if this function really exists, then it is rather hardware dependend than software dependend.
Anyways, maybe someone has an USB adapter to test this for us
This is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_ExtUSB
Related
Is it or will it be possible in the future to connect a USB harddisk to the XDA II. There seem to be a few possabilities for it. But are any of these workable.
It would be great to hook up a 120 GB Harddisk to it especially in your car for PDF files, Tom Tom maps and lots and lots of music.
I have listed the possabilities that seem to be around please feel free to comment.
1. The XDA II has a video chip which supports IMAGEON 3200 USB On-The-Go ( designed for mobile interconnectivity by allowing a USB device to communicate with other USB peripherals (such as printers) without the need to go through a PC). Would it be possible to use this chip to connect to a USB hardisk.
Was posted by IKIRA in the thread "The XDA2 Video processor features"
2. Buy the expanssion pack and a "Dual Port USB Host CF Card" this would propably be the only working system at the moment.
3. There are already bluetooth > USB printer units on the market that allow USB printers to interface with a PDA using bluettooth. There does not seem te be a Bluetooth > USB host interface. :?:
References
References to pages on the internet about my last post.
CF > USB Host http://www.twin-paradox.com/SEPDA.html
Deja mass storage driver http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/
Imageon in the XDAII http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/2853.html
ATI Imageon USB On The Go http://www.us.design-reuse.com/news/news4636.html
Bluetooth > USB printer http://www.11wave.com/main/product/bluetooth_printer.htm
Toshiba USB host cable and Deja driver http://www.anypakdevices.com/PPC/
Toshib aUSB hist cable http://www.skycattech.com/toshiba_pocket_pc_usb_host_cable.html
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ah you also saw the cf adapter ;-)
i was hoping they also could make an external version, so we can connect through the connector.
mabe we can hack it ;-)
i think the cf card only uses, power, and usb in and out data transfer
There are specs from transdimension in this pdf file, don't know if it is the same chip as in the XDAII
www.transdimension.com/assets/products/ 243%20Product%20Brief%209-24-02-MU2002.pdf
1. The XDA II has a video chip which supports IMAGEON 3200 USB On-The-Go ( designed for mobile interconnectivity by allowing a USB device to communicate with other USB peripherals (such as printers) without the need to go through a PC). Would it be possible to use this chip to connect to a USB hardisk.
Was posted by IKIRA in the thread "The XDA2 Video processor features"
I was notice the USB OTG function in the ATI IMAGEON 3200 chip.
if the OTG function pins was connect to the CPU and layout on the PCB,
It is maybe add the OTG function,then we can use USB devices like mass storage drivers,HID drivers,Printer and so on!it enjoy!
If i remember correctly, the XDAII does not use the Imageon chip to provide USB, but instead uses the XScale processor (or was it just a seperate chip... I forget...) which does not support OTG, only USB slave.
As such USB OTG is not supported by the XDAII, so unless you can find a USB harddisk which does something clever to allow the harddisk to be the master device, this can't work...
Am I being Daft
I have been trying to solve this problem for a whhile (in a non technical fashion of course).
I synch my MDAIII with my PC but in the near future I would like to be able to save work from other peopls computers to my device and vice versa without the need for cables and cradles.
I have seen some usb pendrives that rather than actually containing memory as such are actually sd card readers (and other cards too). It looks like it would be quite simple to remove the sd card from my MDAIII and pop it into the pen drive reader' and plug it into a computer and vice versa.
Is this too simple - am I missing something and being dense or is this a viable possibility. If it is - its very cheap - it would cost me about £4.50! ???
Can anyone help me out here?
Is it possible to connect an XDAII t a digital camera to allow me to download images on the move? Or how about connecting to any PC using a USB cable to transfer files, images, etc? I read somewhere theat the XDAII chipset doesn't support this type of connection, is this correct?
No, it's not possible. For any PDA (and our xda, too) the chipset is configured as a slave usb which doesn't allow you to use "normal" usb functions. thats also the reason because activesync exists.
You have a digital camera already in your xda 2, you can transfer files to any pc as long as activesync is installed, just click explore and you can drag and drop. Alernatively you can use a card reader, this will plug into any usb enable pc and allow transferring of files both ways.
I do not think that you can connect it bu usb - probably you need special drivers for it...
99% of htc devices don't support usb host
and can as such only be used by a host
not use other usb devices itself
some things are possible...
With the software WM5torage you can hook up your Hima or any other HTC device to any PC with no Activesync installed and it behaves like any other mass storage device. So if your camera has SD cards you can easily transfer pictures.
If you still use WM2003 on your Hima you can use accessory called Backpack to read CF cards or use a CF to any other card converter.
You can use IR or Bluetooth for wireless control of robots and other devices.
There is also RS232 on the Hima connector.
Hi there,
Regarding the mini-USB port, does anyone know if it is specifically for connection in some sort of “slave” mode, or does it have the potential to be used in the same way as the USB port on a normal desktop PC?
In other words, just as a PC can communicate and control a whole load of devices (external drives, printers etc), would it be possible with suitable software for the PPC’s mini-USB to do likewise?
Any ideas most welcome.
Ken
Hi,
I am using an application on my HTC Prophet, to connect via IRDA to a bike computer, to download information on rides, routes etc.
Now, I'm looking to update my phone to a Touch Pro or SE X1, but it seems that modern phones no longer have an IRDA port...
Do you know of a way to create an IR connection from the phone, say using the mini-USB port??
For example, for modern laptops that no longer have an IR port, you can buy a USB IR.
Thanks
Paul
Nope. No native IrDA and no USB host functionality, so you can't use the external adapter. With X1 microSD SDIO IrDA adapter can be an option, but I've neer seen one available for sale.
See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337641
for a similar discussion.
Thanks Stepw for your comments. It seems a complex topic (some phones - like the X1 don't even have a USB host connection via the mini-usb port). I was in contact with VidaOne to see if they had any ideas (they have a WM software that connects to Polar exercise devices via IR).
Since "nothing" can be done via adding hardware - given the variety of terminals -, they are looking at syncing the exercise files that are downloaded onto the PC from teh exercise device . Not quite as immediate as device -> phone, but a good second best.
Joystick options appeared to be limited for most of us, so I'm posting this thread to help generate interest in finding a universal workaround - and to start tossing around ideas. Here are mine;
USB to mini USB: Could a joystick be rewired to use a mini USB jack? Seems like you would only need drivers to get it to work.
HTC 4-in-1 Cable: The HTC Athena (aka Advantage) has a cable that provides a normal USB jack. With it you can connect a mouse and keyboard, and using this driver you can even connect a joystick. I'm wondering, if we could just get a proper mini USB cable, maybe this driver would work on other devices? Someone was able to get a USB joystick to work on a Toshiba TG01, so I have hope!
BGP100 Gamepad (MSI and Chainpus): Unfortunately, support for this gamepad stopped and the drivers don't seem to work on newer phones (with few exceptions).
Please try to be constructive with the ideas/feedback. Hopefully by pooling our resources we can come up with a mutually beneficial solution.
Id like a workaround for this aswell, especially for the HD2 when it comes out
I spoke with 'i900frenchaddict' from FPSEce. He was able to get a joystick to work on his Toshiba TG01 by buying a USB A Female to Mini USB B 5 Pin Male adapter and using the hidgamep.dll driver.
I've got a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rodium). I just ordered the adapter and I'm going to try to get it to work. I'll post my results later.
connecting anything to the usb port and getting it to work require a device which support usbHost
Athena is as far as I know the only htc wm device out which support usbHost
Has anyone explored porting the usbhost files over from Athena? Is this something that needs to be cooked in or can it be installed manually with a few registry tweaks?
Ravicai said:
Has anyone explored porting the usbhost files over from Athena? Is this something that needs to be cooked in or can it be installed manually with a few registry tweaks?
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A USB host port is hardware based; it cannot be ported by any software means. Rudegar is right about the Athena being the only HTC device with a USB host capabilities, but phones from other manufactures have this feature, such as the TG01. Maybe someday HTC will catch on, but current HTC devices don't have this feature (exception is Athena).
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
A USB host port is hardware based; it cannot be ported by any software means. Rudegar is right about the Athena being the only HTC device with a USB host capabilities, but phones from other manufactures have this feature, such as the TG01. Maybe someday HTC will catch on, but current HTC devices don't have this feature (exception is Athena).
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Bummer. That effectively kills the USB option.
Looks like Bluetooth is the only way to go. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the BGP100 is the only offering at the moment - and it only works on some phones.
Anybody want to take a crack at updating the drivers to work with newer phones like the HTC Touch Pro 2?
Hi!
Yes, it works like a charm on my TG01, thanks again!
What I wonder, is if it may work on a device without a supposed "real USB host" function.
I don't have the correct adapter to plug a pad yet, but one thing is sure: my omnia has the same registry, so it was possible to create the new keys exactly like on my TG01.
Well, my adapter should arrive tomorrow. So I'll experiment and see what happens.
No surprise. The cable didn't work.
I'd be nice if someone made a Bluetooth USB host device with 2 USB ports on it. Then all we need is a driver to work with WM and BAM... everyone can now use USB devices! I imagine such a device would sell pretty good.
Either that or HTC needs to start including the USB host on all future phones. This will definitely be the deal breaker for my next phone... unless of course it happens to have a usable d-pad (haha, fat chance in this touchscreen obsessed world).
Only thing left to do now is hope some kind dev updates the BGP100 drivers *wink* *wink*
Speaking of Bluetooth, it would be nice if someone managed to code Wiimote+Classic Controller or Sixaxis/DualShock 3 drivers for Windows Mobile. The input devices in question already use Bluetooth, and I've never perceived any control latency-it's just a matter of drivers.
Too bad about the lack of USB host, though. I actually thought most HTC devices ever since the Touch Diamond/Pro had it built-in already judging by the USB port shape, and that you'd just need an adapter to use the host capability.
Funny thing is that the Sprint version of the HTC Touch Pro 2 has the Qualcomm MSM7600 chipset which actually has embedded support for USB OTG HS. Yet somewhere along the line someone must have disabled the functionally (much like they disable the radio).
I would venture a guess that the MSM7200a chipset has the same support, but disabled of course.
Edit: Yup, it does.
Confirmed the BGP100 is not working on the HD2. I get "connection error..insufficient memory"
I think that BGP100 is not compatible with the wisdom stack. if we can find a way to use the ms stack we should be fine. so far ia have not found on instructions on how to change the stack.
By the way the Video of the Omina II on your first post is mine
msi & tp2
Ravicai said:
Joystick options appeared to be limited for most of us, so I'm posting this thread to help generate interest in finding a universal workaround - and to start tossing around ideas. Here are mine;
USB to mini USB: Could a joystick be rewired to use a mini USB jack? Seems like you would only need drivers to get it to work.
HTC 4-in-1 Cable: The HTC Athena (aka Advantage) has a cable that provides a normal USB jack. With it you can connect a mouse and keyboard, and using this driver you can even connect a joystick. I'm wondering, if we could just get a proper mini USB cable, maybe this driver would work on other devices? Someone was able to get a USB joystick to work on a Toshiba TG01, so I have hope!
BGP100 Gamepad (MSI and Chainpus): Unfortunately, support for this gamepad stopped and the drivers don't seem to work on newer phones (with few exceptions).
Please try to be constructive with the ideas/feedback. Hopefully by pooling our resources we can come up with a mutually beneficial solution.
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I have a msi bt gamepad and a tp2. so far I have been able to connect using my bt settings and something called spp slave (its some type of serial port) but without updated divers formy device i cant do much more :-/ since i have little tech know how i am stuck here. I have heard that the bgp 100 works for the HD 2 (they have the same bt stack I think) so what gives?
Significant development! Updated bluetooth drivers are now available for the BGP100 gamepad. See this thread for details;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595679