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Just to clarify, the title is not from me ...
Have you seen the TG01??
I knew Tosh were doing some WM devices, but nothing really fancy so far.
This one sounds like the best ever...
Design wise, it looks quite sexy. 9.9mm thin and 4.1" WVGA screen!!
UI wise, need to see more.... looks a bit weird those stripey stuffs.
There're already a lot of articles on the web, just google "Toshiba TG01".
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/0...led-faster-slimmer-better-screen-than-iphone/
http://www.t3.com/news/toshiba-stuns-with-the-new-tg01-touchscreen-mobile-phone?=38013
It's got Flash support, so I guess it is IEM6... but more, apparently you can watch DivX and play HD games!
With the Qualcomm SnapDragon at 1GHz?
Any of you guys, more specs?
full flash support at last available on a mobile with a decent screen !!!
Then tomorrow there will be iPhone, Touch HD and Toshiba TG01 killer...
ohhh I want this home screen, can anyone make it happen?
I just saw this on "The Register" and ran here to try and tell everyone.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/03/toshiba_tg01/
Based on the spec, it seems a GORGEOUS phone.
My future phone. I'm still a little disappointed to know that that will come out this summer ...
I needs me that phone!
It better come with US 3g support.
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
full specs
not nearly enough hardware buttons
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
stefn22 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
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Not exactly, how about the RAM? Other than that, expansion for 32 GB and a 1 Ghz processor... very neat! Maybe the most important spec of all (which is also missing).... how much?!?!?
orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
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Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.
this is one awesome looking & powerful device...
but need to see the full specs and price once released...
No one mentioned anything about battery life.
I wonder if they just made those specs???
See it in action.
So there is no stylus? Not dual SIM? Screen res. 65k only? 512mb onboard memory? But all in all everything is great. Slim, BIG and fast. Monster!
What about sliding keyboard? But I guess it won't be that slim if there's a keyboard. If only I can...I will definitely buy this WinMo device now.
If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
I guess "style" isn´t everything
Oh man....
Oh I LIKE that interface!
HTC has TouchFlo, Xperia has Panels, this Tosh has Stripes.
toshiba
the specs are very intresting but i think touch HD is the tallest phone i will be confortable with....this one is even taller...
orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
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Add Toshi's record of bad support and buggy OS... That is, I wouldn't hold my breath. Hope they've learnt from their past mistakes.
I haven't readlly checked out the specs, just one q:
- does it have a capacitive screen?
- can it record calls?
- does it have a quality (!) camera?
(-does it have quality stereo speakers with stereo widening?)
fotoingo said:
If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
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Even a crappy D-pad is better than nothing at all (see the Touch HD), which, practically, makes gaming / emu running almost impossible.
ZenithUK said:
Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.
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In the past, Toshi's PDA's / phones haven't been manufactured by HTC.
I just saw the new HTC Touch Pro 2. But as usually, it is not perfect. It is always missing some specs.
So I build one as I think could be a perfect devise. The name is HTC Touch Pro 3.
What do you think if this devise was on sale?
Have a look on the specs at: http://marcustavares.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/htc-touch-pro-3-a-dream-pda
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What do you think if this devise was on sale?
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I think it would cost at least £1000 SIM-free and, frankly, wouldn't sell to most people, simply because of the price.
All the Touch-Pro-2 needs really is a 3.5mm headphone socket.
Like the one they put on the Touch HD, damnit!
Best things in it:
- OLED display
- the projector. Build in a tripod and the TV output is not so important.
What it lacks:
- 50-200mm F/1.8 lens with image stabilization.
- Windows Mobile with CE Core 6.0.
But they won't build such a device, because it would satisfy most people for about 5 years.
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But they won't build such a device, because it would satisfy most people for about 5 years.
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I think this is the REAL PROBLEM here. All they could think of is how to squeeze more money from us.
Htc is trying to rip us off. I mean why can't they just focus on a particular phone like the iphone and build on it till its perfect. Instead they release all these new phones with the same features and slight difference and charge u an arm and a leg and i can just buy an iphone for $200usd. I mean what the hell is wron with those idiots at htc. I need to buy some shares and have a say in that company because clearly they a great at creating but horrible at business.
12.1MP camera.
Lol it would be 12.1 mp of blur.
the problem with HTC
do u guys realize the software support for HTC sucks big time? For example I have a HTC Advantage. They could have improved the video playback of the G-sensor. Instead they just ignored it and went on selling other new products.
I agree the cost might be too high. The 3.5mm headphone socket I don't need as I use the Motorola S9-HD but I agree it is important.
If I need to chose one item it will be the camera. 3.1 is defenetly low for a device is comming in the middle of 2009 and in the mean time lots of competitors like Samsung OmniaHD, Nokia N97 and others are comming with better camera.
3?! 2 won't even be out for a few months.
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Htc is trying to rip us off. I mean why can't they just focus on a particular phone like the iphone and build on it till its perfect. Instead they release all these new phones with the same features and slight difference and charge u an arm and a leg and i can just buy an iphone for $200usd. I mean what the hell is wron with those idiots at htc. I need to buy some shares and have a say in that company because clearly they a great at creating but horrible at business.
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HTC release devices like the TP2 for those that need a keyboard, the Diamond for those that want something small, the HD for those that want films etc. They've realised there is no perfect device, so why not make something for everyone?
Also, those complaining about incremental improvements, look at the iPhone. So, the second gen has 3G. Which it should have had the first time around. That's about the only new thing hardware wise.
Also, no one is forcing you to by HTC. If you love the iPhone so much, go and buy one, and regret it.
I read your specs, and while it is good to dream, even maybe hint at a potential HTC engineer what to do next...you should also keep in mind some physical constraints, so here are my few remarks ;-)
a screen of 10 cm of diagonal, and a 5 way dpad seems very difficult to fit in a 59x116mm device. Your screen is 85mm high, add 2*2mm for borders, 7mm up for the front camera and loudspeaker, and u have 10mm to fit a 5 way dpad... difficult! and a zoom bar? forget it ;-)
Fitting an optical zoom in a 17 mm thick device? difficult, u would need to use 45 degree mirror to angle the zoom/captor 90 degree (it will be set in the width of the device)...and then u can forget about the projector...
Also, such arangements (optical zoom OR microprojector) would change the physical layout of your device. Basically, it would look more like the G1 than the touch pro, the DPAD/zoom bar should stay fixed with regard to keyboard to have some room to fit those devices.
USB3 is not supported by snapdragon, so this is not possible (additional control chip is not possible, for space and energy usage reasons)
same for wimax and 802.11n wifi...not sure it support 1080P output either, I think it is 720p. Recording in 1080P/30fps is certainly out of reach of the snapdragon...but even if it could do it, no way u could use such a resolution with the small lens in anything less than bright sunlight or studio lighting. and even then, i am not sure it would be better than 720P. 1080P camcoders need a significant lens opening, you need a lot of photons to get an acceptable signal/noise at 30 fps with so many pixels...
scroll wheel would be very nice! I wonder why this has faded from all current smartphones, it was popular at one time, and for good reasons: some kind of side control is great for navigating in lists, webpage or ebooks...So yes, here I am 100% with you: it is time for a comeback
And last: I think it is not possible to fit a 2100 mAh battery given the size of the device and the presence of a physical keyboard: it would have to be thicker..or without keyboard...batteries with higher energy density could allow it, but they are not available right now, and hoping for such a significant progress would push your dream device to long term future ;-)
Marcus Tavares said:
I agree the cost might be too high. The 3.5mm headphone socket I don't need as I use the Motorola S9-HD but I agree it is important.
If I need to chose one item it will be the camera. 3.1 is defenetly low for a device is comming in the middle of 2009 and in the mean time lots of competitors like Samsung OmniaHD, Nokia N97 and others are comming with better camera.
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3 megapixels is enough for amateur photography, especially in mobile phone
I prefer less megapixel with less noise than the opposite.
Do you make prints bigger than 20x30cm (8x12in.) ?
I did 20x30cm prints from 3mpix DSLR camera (Sigma SD9) and quality was very good...
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Adam
Nice, but for the vid recording, how about CCD, its better than CMOS apparantly, and make the image quality really high, as that is what makes a photo look nicer. And seriously, a dream phone should have UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100, which is what the XPERIA should have had.
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Nice, but for the vid recording, how about CCD, its better than CMOS apparantly, and make the image quality really high, as that is what makes a photo look nicer. And seriously, a dream phone should have UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100, which is what the XPERIA should have had.
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I think multi-purposes camera are going back to CMOS. From what I understand, CMOS suffered from image non-uniformity...but this has been mostly solved. On the other hand, CMOS decrease price of supporting circuitry, but also allows for faster framerates. So the new photo/video camera with high framerate video recording (30fps/60fps/even more for slow motion) are going back to CMOS...
Oh, ok, thanks for the info man!
dream device= touch pro with faster cpu in a kaiser body.
i just have to have soft keys.
Dream device
1 ghz processor
3.5" screen
Universal unbeatable form factor: Microlap top-pda
great keyboard
Waiting for Phone after Touch Pro 2
I bought the Mogul in 8/07 and the Touch Pro 1 in 10/08 and don't see the need to jump at the Touch Pro 2 for $500-$600 with only minor improvements, even if I can sell (which I always do) my TP1 on ebay. I'll wait for the phone after the TP 2 from HTC that has:
-WM 7
-5 MP camera
-better battery life
-700+ MHz processor
-4GB ROM
-1GB RAM
-etc., etc.
Going from the TP 1 to TP 2 is a waste of money IMHO and everyone making the jump won't be able to get the 2 year contract discount which is still $400 with it. I'll put my $400 to the next upgrade due in late 2010 or early 2011. I'm good with Mighty ROM 6...LOL
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Dream device
1 ghz processor
3.5" screen
Universal unbeatable form factor: Microlap top-pda
great keyboard
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Add TV-Out or a projector and I'll dish out $ for that, as long as it'll have att 3G (preferably unbranded)
Touch Pro3
Android or Webos
Cortex A8 Processor or Snapdragon/tegra.
same form factor+headphone jack
slightly larger screen because of the omission of the zoom bar.
same screen resolution.
i tried to be realistic because all these things are possible right now not some fantasy device. (with the exception of licensing Webos or just building it for Palm)
Any thoughts?!?! I can't wait. They re-added the tilt feature, bigger screen and supposedly a 5 megapixel camera.
Pics look great
coreysdad said:
Any thoughts?!?! I can't wait. They re-added the tilt feature, bigger screen and supposedly a 5 megapixel camera.
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3.x MP Camera, and no Flash Lite. Pretty much same hardware. No front D-Pad, just some zoom bar...
I prefer a hardware d-pad on the front, even if it is tiny and takes up space. leaving most of the screen navigation to touch goes only so far and a little manual action is sometimes needed.
The tilt part is nice, and so is the conference features (hardware).
Ships with 6.1, and upgrades to 6.5 when they get it worked out.
*All of the above is based on nothing and i hope to god what i wrote is as close to correct as possible.
i kinda like the better speakerphone and the larger screen with higher resolution. but i think after that i like everything else on the original touch pro. i like the full dpad and capacitive block, the better cam, and never liked the titly feature of the htc tilt so even though its surely a great phone i wont be giving up my tp1.
Can I ask what the difference between this thread and the other 5 regarding the touchpro2 are.
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Can I ask what the difference between this thread and the other 5 regarding the touchpro2 are.
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This one Got Closed By JimmyMcGee!
Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000
It looks fantastic, though in Australia it probably will cost $1k+ ;{
How does the Snapdragon measure up to Tegra?
See this active thread for the latest info on a very cool htc ppc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line EDITED Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the EDITED pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the EDITED pro 3
orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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Im actually glad this doesn't have a physical keyboard. with a 4.3" capacitative touch screen and 1ghz, this on screen keyboard should be even better. Plus, less bulk
Agree mate, I don't use the keyboard and I want a light weight HTC ppc, big screen & Powerful cpu! So this will be my next device
orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).
Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
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How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.
theomni said:
Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000
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It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.
Shasarak said:
It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.
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It's good to have a phone maker focus on making great phones rather than making 12MP camera *cough*Samsung*cough* with the same crappy CMOS sensor as a $25 webcam.
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.
orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
lude219 said:
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.
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I'd quite like to see a phone with HDMI output so you can use it as a pocketsized media PC. Actually a phone with a built-in high-definition projector would be quite neat too. (They do make projector phones, but not in HD as far as I know).
Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).
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Thanks for the aclaration, I guess I´m going to wait till a harware keyboard comes out as is a must for me
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The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,
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I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Super Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.
balf said:
I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.
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I'm not an advocate for man+gopher relationships, but I'd love to see that movie (FOR COMEDIC REASONS ONLY...I SWEAR!).
orb3000 said:
You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,
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Nothing against you, you're just the first one at hand to rant at!
It's just annoying the number of people that can't read a few simple words in front of their own eyes. Fair enough on a forum, but when you have supposed "news sites" that allegedly specialse in phone info reporting the release of the "Touch Pro 3", it's pretty darn annoying.
for example : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2009/09/28/htc-leo-touch-pro-3-pics.html
Idiots! This crud is to quality reporting what herpes is to world peace.
Shame your way of thinking is so radical...
I wouldn´t call anyone an idiot
Respect is 1st, then our opinions come...
Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...
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How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.
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In my country, the TP2 came out about 2 - 3 months after the HD.
I would like to think that May 2010 seems to be realistic for TP3... 4.3 inch capacitive, 1ghz snapdragon with slide out keyboard!
Right now I am just waiting to ditch my HERO for the HD2 the moment it comes out
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Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...
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completly agree!!
What do you think? Prices are unimportant.
It would be nice if you can tell us why
I think the best windows phone always depends on your personal needs. I choose a HTC 7 Pro, because I needed a device with a physical keyboard, as I'm often using the office app and the email functionality.
So I bought it directly when it came out and I'm still very pleased with my descision. As there was only the Dell Venue Pro with a keyboard on sale, I choose HTC, because I had allready several phones produced by them and I loved all of them. The only thing I miss is a microSD reader.
The 7 Pro would be the best if it has a larger screen and better landscape support :/
Wtf where is the LG quantum?
The Omnia7 is a great piece of HW for that price. I just also cant live without physical KB and got the HTC 7 Pro.
Why i decided the HTC over the Dell is that Dell is pretty bulky and also note that dells keyboard does not have directional keys. When i had the Omnia 7 it was a pita when trying to go back to some specific place in a text...
As for the not so good support of landscape in WP7 its not a problem. The places where I use the KB most landscape works... Like now writing this!
Also unlocked bootloaders is a thing that made me go towards HTC.
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Wtf where is the LG quantum?
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Sorry, forgotten.
It isnt aviable in Europe, so...
Can any mod apply that phone to the poll?
Another problem of the Pro ia that it has only 8GB in the Europe version -.-
I love my HD7, but I love big screens. I use my phone 24/7, literally, it monitors my sleep lol... The battery isn't as good as some of the smaller screens, and HTC batteries suck, but you need to get a phone that suits your preferences.
HTC has problems with quality these past few years.. Not jst on wp7/wm6, bt android too..
I'll go for LG.. Easiest way to developer unlock via its mfg menu..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7
I don't actually own an Windows Phone, but I'll swap my LG 2X to a DVP. I think, that's the best Windows Phone, it has an 4.1" AMOLED Screen, a physical keyboard, it's cool looking...
But the Omnia 7 is really good too. Super AMOLED is quite better than AMOLED, and it has an metal body... thats nice
Hands down the dell venue pro. I own all of them but for battery life, functionality, quality, and pretty much everything that matters the dell venue pro. It was ergonomically designed in every sense to be form-fitted to the hand, the screen has a slight curvature unseen elsewhere, its the only windows phone without physical buttons that I dont accidentally hit the back button on, and lets face it, no other looks near as cool. The weight took some getting used to, its just slightly heavier than the hd7 but the weight is my only complaint.
The battery on the HD7 sucks, yes, but that's the least of its problems.
My main issue is that it's a terrible PHONE. The reception/signal strength is terrible.
If you're on WiFI a lot and want a bit screen, it's a great phone. WiFi will save some battey over a 3G connection given the quality of the radio in the phone.
If you want a phone that actually functions very well as a phone, I'd look into something else. Maybe the Focus. Samsung phones tend to have very good signal strength. At least my Vibrant does, but it may have a different radio /shrug. The HD2 had poor reception as well. The HD7 is basically it's fraternal twin brother.
Also, I'd try my best to get an unlocked/unbranded phone because Microsoft is making us do the carrier dance, Sadly.
HD7
Pros:
Large screen
Good call quality (Sounds nice & clear)
Good signal strength (I get 3G+ reception up in the mountains of Burbank, CA & Burbank refuses to allow cell provider to put up new towers)
Nice build quality, feels nice in the hand
Kick Stand for media viewing
Hackability (Same goes for all HTC's as we have R/HSPL)
Cons:
Battery
Poor speaker volume/quality
LCD is nice but nothing compared to Super AMOLED & SAMOLED+
Some complain about the hardware buttons, personally I like them
The capacitive buttons are too close to the LCD (prone to accidently hitting one while holding the device)
I owned the HTC HD7, the HTC Mozart, the LG Optimus 7 and the Omnia 7. So I think I can give a fair point of view.
In my opinion:
* the best is LG Optimus 7:
Pros:
16GB storage, nice battery life, DLNA, great augmented reality apps, speech to text, physical buttons (I hate capacitive buttons)
cons:
Ugly design, too much plastic, heavy weight, mediocre screen and camera, bad image of LG
* Followed by HTC Mozart:
Pros:
Very well balanced phone, HTC apps, aluminium body, 8MP camera, battery life is ok, speakers are of good quality.
cons:
8GB storage only, no HTC flashlight, no DLNA, screen a little bit small.
* Followed by Omnia 7:
Pros:
Wonderful elegant design, great S-Amoled screen
cons:
8GB storage only (at least in my country), very limited number of Samsung apps, no DLNA, a lot of annoying bugs that ruin the overall experience.
* In my opinion the HD7 is the worst.
Pros:
Screen size, kick stand, HTC apps, good call quality
cons:
Terrible screen resolution, horrible battery life, boring design, no DLNA, mediocre camera, mediocre 8GB storage only, terrible speakers (my God)...
I was surprised to discover that I really enjoy using the HTC Mozart and finally hated the HD7 (even if my previous phone was a HD2).
At first sight I fell in love with the Omnia 7 but was finally disappointing on a daily basis...
I have the Omnia 7 and all I can say is that it has terrible call quality and reception-issues.
Otherwise I love it.
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
nizzon said:
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
arturobandini said:
This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
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arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
LGXX said:
I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
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I dont really care about dual core.
I want...
SAMOLED (or something equal in blacks)
Good reception and good call quality
at least 16gb storage
Good buildquality
Hardware homebutton
Is that too much to ask? It looks like it.
SicilianTony said:
arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
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Hello SicilianTony,
In my country the Omnia 7 is only available with 8GB unfortunately...
That's a shame.
Regarding call quality, I suppose I have been unlucky with my device in particular. Accrdingly I will modify my previous comment in order to give the most objective and fair review possible.