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Diamond or Omnia?

Hi all,
I was hoping to upgrade to Diamond when its out in the UK. But now the Samsung Omnia is out, I am a bit confused as to which one to go for. I invite everyone to give your opinion on it. I am sure there are many like me out there.
MY initial views are;
Diamond is a cool phone and the HTC have years of experience with WM phones. But it does have its own flows like HTC doesnt seem to know how to make proper camera and issues with video drivers. And their headphones are good for nothing. I really think these areas will be better with Omnia, at least the 5MP camera and the headphone quality.
On the other side, Omnia is slightly bigger and and heavier than the Diamond. And the display is Qvga? (I am not an expert on this). Both have GPS and Accelerometer and stuff.
So guys give us your opinion on this.
Cheers
Jugulator

I'm desperatly trying to source my Omnia from Asia as its not out here in the UK yet. I currently have a G900 and whilst the screen is spanking, its camera is rubbish and it doesn't have GPS, which i REALLY want.
As for HTC, having had 3 HTC devices and having had to return said devices 6 times in total for hardware repairs I will never, ever, ever buy a HTC device again. Oh and just to add, the guy that sits oposite me in the office has an orange branded TyTN, i mentioned the build quality to him about 6 months ago and he laughed at me and said his worked perfectly. Guess what, he finaly threw the thing in the bin today as the last of the front hardware keys gave up on him.
So, don't care if HTC make the greatest phone on the planet, i ain't buying it.

I like the specs of the Omni, but the UI does not appear up to par on the whole compared to that of the Diamond/Rafael.
http://samsungomnia.com/omnia-videos/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaXA9un7YE

Thanks for the video. Interesting GUI. I definately like the design of the Omnia. The GUI looks a little bit slugglish and unresponsive at times. But with a large screen (although low pixel dimension), 5MP camera & 16GB max storage--it's hard to say no. The widescreen QVGA is disturbing for a feature rich phone like this. The iPhone hides the pixel dimensions nicely so I'm hoping this one will too.
I'm passing on the Diamond (because of the 4GB max storage) and hoping for the Touch Pro. If you can port TouchFlo 3D on the Omnia and have it be as fluid as the iPhone UI, I would seriously buy it.

VGA and QVGA
Could someone shred some light on the difference between VGA and QVGA? If this is significantly different, I would favour Diamond than Omnia, plus smaller size and weight. But at the same time I would like to try something other than HTC..lol.

Get the Rapheal it will be better than both the Omnia and Diamond.

This Omni phones got my eye, will add it to the review list on the Formal '08 smart phone comparison. Check my signature.

Hmmm touch choice, X1, Pro, or Omnia. Depends on the Camera I get really, no camer -> probably omnia, Good camera-> one of the others. 5MP is sick, and considering HTC Cameras are ****, it makes the 5 even better.
Rory

Go for the Omnia. If you look at the videos from youtube, the omnia opens apps REALLY FAST. It may not be as responsive as we should want, probably due to the screen, but the processor speed makes up for it. Not to mention the 16 GB storage and micro SD slot. It has XVID and DIVX support out of the box, so you know it will definitely perform well with videos. The 5 MP camera also s a huge plus. The only drawbacks I could think off is how good will the battery last in a day of use, and the wide QVGA screen which might not be compatible with most or all available apps yet.
I had a dilemma choosing between the Advantage X7510 and the Omnia, but in the end, I opted for the BIG SCREEN and good battery life of the X7510.
But with the choices you have given, go for the Omnia.

jugulator said:
Could someone shred some light on the difference between VGA and QVGA? If this is significantly different, I would favour Diamond than Omnia, plus smaller size and weight. But at the same time I would like to try something other than HTC..lol.
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VGA is 640 by 480 screen resolution while QVGA is 320 by 240 resolution. Basically VGA screen have 4 times as much clarity and quality as QVGA screens, in theory atleast.

I too am thinking of the SGH-i907. I will be moving and need to switch to GSM and sense the i907 is going to AT&T that will work just fine for me. But I will have to use it in Verizon/AllHell network until I move. So I hope it will work ok. I think with the 8 or 16GB internal memory and the availability to use the external micro SD slot is nice. I guess to top it off they should have used a VGA screen but WGVA isn't too bad is it? What is the mp of the secondary camera? I am also wondering if Android can be ported to the i907?
Release Date: June, 2008
56.9x112x12.5mm, Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional , 32bit Marvell PXA320, 128MiB RAM, 16000MiB ROM, 3.2" 400x240 color transflective TFT display, video out, Proprietary audio jack, GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900/UMTS2100, CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, microSD/microSDHC/TransFlash/SDIO, Proprietary port, Bluetooth, WLAN, GPS, A-GPS, FM radio, accelerometer, 5MP camera, AF, flash, secondary camera, 1440mAh removable battery.

Anyone know what version of Opera 9.5 the i900 is running?

I'm thinking between HTC Touch Pro and Omnia. If possible want to get both of them to compare. But still worry about omnia regarding below issues:
1. no support on forum such as tweaking, customize and cook rom.
2. where to download the rom update? Samsung will give new rom update to improve their performance or not?
3. inside the package seem not include the stylus and pouch. at samsung webpage indicate that is an optional.
4. how good is Marvell PXA300 series processor? Stable or not? Fast enough or not to handle such a bulky 3d software.

Samsung Omnia (i-900)
I just got the Omnia here in Singapore and so far, its great! You can turn off most of the "fancy" (but not so useful features to me) iPhone like features and you get a great WM6.1 device with 16GB storage (+ I can add another 8GB micro SD). The battery life is good and I can swap batteries if I need to. The camera is 5MP, with flash and the video is good.
For those of you interested, here's a good review of the Omnia:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
Cheers!

kiawey said:
3. inside the package seem not include the stylus and pouch. at samsung webpage indicate that is an optional.
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I just went to a samsung roadshow in singapore yesterday
and i tried out the i900 there.
The lady told me the stylus is included in the package.
however it is nt like normal PDA phones where the stylus can be kept
'in' the phone itself. i900's stylus is hung outside like an accessory.
5 megapixel camera but doesn't seem to take photos like a 5 megapixel camera should. nokia's n95's camera seems better.
anyway, placed an order as the stock ran out by the time i got there.

How much you got it in Sing Dollar?

kiawey said:
How much you got it in Sing Dollar?
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it will be $498 with a 2 year line contract with Starhub in Singapore.
luckily i have a $200 voucher and a phone to trade-in..

davechew said:
I just got the Omnia here in Singapore and so far, its great! You can turn off most of the "fancy" (but not so useful features to me) iPhone like features and you get a great WM6.1 device with 16GB storage (+ I can add another 8GB micro SD). The battery life is good and I can swap batteries if I need to. The camera is 5MP, with flash and the video is good.
For those of you interested, here's a good review of the Omnia:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
Cheers!
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Thanks for posting the review! I really like it. The only deal breaker now is the $1000+ (US dollars?) price tag. With the falling value of the US Dollar, that's a hefty price to pay for a phone (those included features are great). 2 year contract for $500? I hope. But there's still the Touch Pro.

Hea-to-head Review
Here's a direct review of both phones plus side-by-side photos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php

mphayvanh said:
Here's a direct review of both phones plus side-by-side photos:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php
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Excellent review. Seems unbiased and balanced, although, until someone has both handsets you can never be sure.
davechew said:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2606&cid=24&pg=1
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Connectivity: GPS with Navigation
Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP support
USB 2.0
Wi-Fi
Features:
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MS Office Document Viewer, Advanced PIM Apps,
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Dont think anyone in there right mind would call google maps "Navigation"? Also, MS Office VIEWER!? Reviews inaccurate from page one, not going to bother reading the rest.
After using my G900 (800 x 480) mobile for a year now, I can't say that High res screens float my boat. They are a massive drain on the battery and factoring in the physical size of the screen, really not that usefull in my opinion. Its seems to me like having a 1080p 32" tv, good in principle but unless its 46", you really don't see the full benefit.
I think i'm still looking at an I900 .... now if only they were in the shops in the UK!!!!!
p.s. Anyone from Singapore wana stick one on Ebay?

[Vid/Pho][Updated: 08/27/08] Photos/Media/Reviews

Reviews/Videos/Photos of the released HTC Touch Pro:
Review on PhoneArena
Russian Review on mobile-review.com (in russian - but great photos)
One week with the Pro report can be found on coolsmartphone.com
Day1
Day2
Day3
Day4
First real written review found on pocketnow.com (must see)
Video review and photos on mobility today (a must see)
New close up shots on OMIO
Unboxing video on pocketnow.com
Hardware close up on pocketnow.com (a must see)
Software and other features coverd in this video on pocketnow.com
First Video-review found on Omio Part I, here is part II
Q&A on the Touch Pro with OMIO
Unboxing video found on Omio
iPhone/Touch Pro text input challenge found on Omio
Touch Diamond / Pro Side-By-Side photos and benchmarks found on Phonereport (Original and Full spanish review found on lifemobility.blogspot.com/)
Stuff on Mobiletech Addicts (4 links): Benchmarks, Side-by-Side Photos, Video-look-at and review (including the look at video)
Unboxing Video at Tracy and Matt
TV-out photos on our forum
Hands-on photos found on Engadget
Pre-release stuff:
HTC Touch Pro HandsOn Hardware
HTC Touch Pro HandsOn Software
and
HTC Touch Pro - Getting started by HTC
The last video is probably an indicator that the pro release is not far away...
Update:
Just to have all the video footage together for those who are new, take a look at the following
PhoneMag Hands On
IDG spanish coverage
Early Promo Slideshow
Here is a report on some "quality time" with the Touch Pro on Cnet Asia... sounds promissing - and honestly: I like Touchflo with the upcoming TouchXperience a lot more than the Xperia Interface...
08/12/08: Check out new pics on engadget - HTC Touch Pro hands on - best image quality I have seen so far
Mod Edit: Adding these links to the wiki, great stuff

Nice sir, very nice.

Arne Hess also commented that he is going to post footage of the TV out feature and a running touch pro very soon
Should be nice...
Regarding the getting started video: I really like the fact that TouchFlo 3D really appears to be silky smooth now... I cannot wait any longer XD

Yup, i noticed that too, very smooth!

Software Review
I can't wait for the software review it should be good. I bet there are some differences compared to the Diamond.

Software Review!
The software review is up:
HTC Touch Pro Software and GUI Hands-on

i would guess, the extra ram should make a big diff in the TF3d performance compared to the diamond... right?

psperos said:
i would guess, the extra ram should make a big diff in the TF3d performance compared to the diamond... right?
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At least in the software video it appears to be the case. The TouchFlo 3D interface is very smooth and responsive.
I hope they are going to tweak TouchFlo in landscape mode a bit more to make it more "shiny". But honestly using the keyboard this is more than sufficient. What do you want with the weather panel while using the keyboard? Being able to access all the typing applications quickly with the keyboard out makes most sense to me.
And I guess that using the home button while being in any other application while sliding out the keyboard will bring you back to the landscape touch flo interface (3D it is not... )

damnit. my Nokia N73 committed suicide. It literally hanged and the service point says it can not be repaired. problem with the board.
I need this phone to be released immediately. =\

StaticPlaya said:
The software review is up:
HTC Touch Pro Software and GUI Hands-on
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Lol @ the voice, wasn't any human available so they hired a robot?
Now being more serious, I expected more from the landscape mode, but I don't think that's a huge problem.

billybobjones said:
I need this phone to be released immediately. =\
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I don't like how they did away with all the hardware buttons. That's going to be a pain-in-the-rear.

KyleK29 said:
I don't like how they did away with all the hardware buttons. That's going to be a pain-in-the-rear.
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I agree 100%. This alone might make be enough to make me jump ship (and the driver debacle, that too). The jog wheel means that much to me.

<insertwittyusernamehere> said:
I agree 100%. This alone might make be enough to make me jump ship (and the driver debacle, that too). The jog wheel means that much to me.
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its a TOUCH category , so it should have less HW keys

I dont want to seem funny or anything, but in what little I can find out about this phone, I have deduced that it is everything the touch diamond is... except for it has a keyboard... and that the landscape "touchflo 3d" is pretty much 8 icons...
please, someone tell me im wrong and that ive missed something here...

Touch Pro has:
More RAM (288MB)
LED light for camera
Hardware keyboard
Higher battery capacity
TV out
microSDHC slot (instead of built-in 4GB in Diamond)
it's possible that I forgot something...

more RAM ay... i guess it depends on whether it really will speed up things, or whether itll go back to the usual problem of the graphics drivers being non-exsistant.
Personally, and im probably on my own here, it just seems that the pro will be £100+ more because it has a keyboard and a few more little things... dont get me wrong, i got my kaiser because i love having a real qwerty etc, i just wish that it had a bit more "oomph" behind it than the diamond... and some graphic drivers

Lanyz said:
Touch Pro has:
More RAM (288MB)
LED light for camera
Hardware keyboard
Higher battery capacity
TV out
microSDHC slot (instead of built-in 4GB in Diamond)
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Weight of 165g opposed the 110g from Diamond

comes with Worldcard mobile and JetCet print pre-installed.....??
Nah, doesn't excite me either!
Anyhoo, you end up with around 200MB Program memory and 320MB Storage Memory just after a hard reset. That's more than on my advantage!!

No demo of the camera in the software demo huh? That's not usually a good sign.

HTC Touch HD is Offical

Read 'em and weep
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64790
My touch pro is looking a bit old hat now...

Really?? But if you didn't need a keyboard why didn't you get the diamond (then you could be upset )

I still love the keyboard on my TP
But if they make a 1700mhz flavor for Tmo US 3G, I'll be all over that in an instant.

nah...rafael owners will cry when the HD pro comes out...but this one has no keyboard...so it's not really comparable
I on the other hand....am still waiting for the Touch Pro to be available here in the philippines...and then the HD comes out...sheesh.

No keyboard. No go.

steveoidm said:
Really?? But if you didn't need a keyboard why didn't you get the diamond (then you could be upset )
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Well they keyboard is a very nice iece of kit (and it's why I got the tP over the diamond, that and the SAR rating) but a bigger, higher resolution screen, 5mp camera and an updated TFlo 3D does look mighty fine...

And only a 1350mAH battery - pretty small given the screen size.....

The thing is, the way the keyboard is programmed - takes away a lot of the advantage (for me) to having a hardware keyboard. All of the keys register the same in outside programs. So the keyboard is currently useless for emulation and games.
Does anyone know if the Touch HD has TV Out like the Raphael? That could be another important distinction.

Looks like the sites down
But im in the same pickle...
HD or TP Big screen or keyboard.

l0st.prophet said:
Read 'em and weep
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64790
My touch pro is looking a bit old hat now...
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Nothing on that link. I have heard about the HD and would love to come back to Winmo from iPhone but I need 3G or HSPA on ATT. Will probably go with the Touch Pro until the HD comes available on ATT (if ever)

Very happy with my TP with the hardware, size and keyboard, unless they come up with another ground breaking innovation

I don't see why the HD is "over" Pro in some way (except the screen res. which I am not sure it is good or bad and the camera resolution which I don't really care too much).

no TV out?

Spec seems pretty light at the moment - I suspect more detail will be added in the comming days, weeks...... We may see some other "items" added to the list? Theres a basic review here too: http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/news/2008/09/11/HTC-Touch-HD--The-True-iPhone-Rival-/p1 Looks pretty cool but it depends on what you beed?
I personally am fortunate to have both the Diamond and Pro - I added the pro to my collection after finding that it was a little extra memory and the MicroSD card slot that I missed - not the keyboard at all - I do love the Pro though and the "gadgets too" - the TV cable is great - I travel a lot with work and now use the Pro to watch movies on the Hotel room TV - thats pretty cool - and last week I gave a Power point presentation using the Pro on a standard projector - very cool indeed.....
So - I'll probably get a HD when they come along and we'll see which one I stick with - at the moment - the Pro's my main man....!
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13mm bigger
I see there 2 other models as well.
Still happy with the Pro great Business Tool which is more important to me.
The HD has this iphone feel about?

Will the Diamond/Touch Pros will get the Touchflo 3D enchancements from the Touch HD and Touch 3Gs/Viva?
There is a stocks tab in the HD and all the new Touchs have the 4 day weather right on the screen.

dreamtheater39 said:
no TV out?
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I second that! No tv out?

They would better go off by some hardware video decoder not only with bigger screen resolution. Hi-res devices really need such to fully enjoy movies on them.
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luckly it doesnt come with keyboard, otherwise, yes i'd cry loud!

htcplussony said:
Will the Diamond/Touch Pros will get the Touchflo 3D enchancements from the Touch HD and Touch 3Gs/Viva?
There is a stocks tab in the HD and all the new Touchs have the 4 day weather right on the screen.
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It's just some scripts and png files as part of Manila. They're already being dissected over on the Diamond forum (there's a custom Calendar and Calc tab), so no doubt once the HD version comes out it will be ported to Diamond/Pro. Of course the HD benefits from the WVGA to fit more info on screen.
Of course, HTC might release ROM updates that include the new interface as well.

Truth about Xperia X1 and WM - is it really worth it ?

Hello WM community !
To cut long story short, I got very interested in WM and now I am considering to buy Xperia, but after reading a lot in this forum I got my doubts about it.
A lot people says that WM is way ahead comparing to symbian and yeah, for example Xperia's cpu and ram size is almost twice (or even more) as big as any other symbian device. But what are they good for if Xperia can hardly play good quality clips smoothly and run game emulators at decent speed ( I mean snes ,gba emulator with sound or even FPSCE) ? The old, practically unchanged S60 platform can run those things ( and even .avi files) without problems (well except FPSCE of course ). As you probably all know, few symbian phones even are able to run Q3 at a very very decent speed. So my question is, why Xperia is worth paying around 800 $ ? Just for super comfy office tools? Sexy design? Nice touch screen? Why ?
I don't want to judge anything, I just want to find arguments why I should buy the Xperia ? And I need your help guys
Thanks in advance
P.S. As you noticed, I want to use phone as a multimedia entertainment device, especially for movies.

hi,
i understand your concerns.. i am sorry i do not watch shows on it..
but my own experiences,
PRO:the screen is sharp. 3 inch is good.. touch pro is only 2.8 and its heavier.
the CPU to me seems ok. In fact youtube has a vs touch pro video out there.. x1 is faster when switching landscape.
the touch screen is good in response for me. most task can be used one hand finger.
Keyboard is good.. you can type pretty fast on it.
as of all WM devices, you need to customize it before it becomes better.. i am speed dialers .. launchers... cool.
battery life for above average usage is 24hours. (am told other devices is shorter )
CON:
the camera button is difficult to press
you may get the rattle "add on" (ie a rattle sound when shaked )
price is a little on the upside.. well this is suppose to be their flagship premium phone.

for my subjective opinion, WM, especially touch HD is the best for me, that will be my future device,. hehe,.
easy software upgrade, ROM cooking, etc,.

i agree with -G-, my next device will be the touch HD, the wait to march will be ohhh soooo long

touch HD is good.. however if poster needs a h/w keyboard.. then touch HD is out..

leobox1 said:
touch HD is good.. however if poster needs a h/w keyboard.. then touch HD is out..
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lol, yeah,.

The Touch HD is a media orientated device (what with it having things like the 3.5mm headphone jack) and in CorePlayer (or even TCPMP) the HD can play full size AVI movies pretty much perfectly!
The X1 has very similar hardware, except for the keyboard, but that may be used in game emulators. Also, I'm sure that emulators would run okay (they can run on my Prophet, with a 200MHz processor, and 64MB of RAM!)

I've seen both (but not used them, only reviews).
The Xperia is much better looking than the Touch Pro IMHO. It is smaller, lighter, and just cooler. They both should perform the same, but I think the Pro has the better UI

thanks for commenting.
I will probably buy it, but still I can find the arguments to justify the price....
anyway, thanks again.

HTC Pro.Three Anyone?

Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000

It looks fantastic, though in Australia it probably will cost $1k+ ;{
How does the Snapdragon measure up to Tegra?

See this active thread for the latest info on a very cool htc ppc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143

Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line EDITED Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the EDITED pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the EDITED pro 3

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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Im actually glad this doesn't have a physical keyboard. with a 4.3" capacitative touch screen and 1ghz, this on screen keyboard should be even better. Plus, less bulk

Agree mate, I don't use the keyboard and I want a light weight HTC ppc, big screen & Powerful cpu! So this will be my next device

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).

Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
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How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.

theomni said:
Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000
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It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.

Shasarak said:
It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.
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It's good to have a phone maker focus on making great phones rather than making 12MP camera *cough*Samsung*cough* with the same crappy CMOS sensor as a $25 webcam.
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!

lude219 said:
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.
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I'd quite like to see a phone with HDMI output so you can use it as a pocketsized media PC. Actually a phone with a built-in high-definition projector would be quite neat too. (They do make projector phones, but not in HD as far as I know).

Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).
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Thanks for the aclaration, I guess I´m going to wait till a harware keyboard comes out as is a must for me
mr_Ray said:
The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,

mr_Ray said:
I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Super Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.

balf said:
I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.
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I'm not an advocate for man+gopher relationships, but I'd love to see that movie (FOR COMEDIC REASONS ONLY...I SWEAR!).

orb3000 said:
You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,
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Nothing against you, you're just the first one at hand to rant at!
It's just annoying the number of people that can't read a few simple words in front of their own eyes. Fair enough on a forum, but when you have supposed "news sites" that allegedly specialse in phone info reporting the release of the "Touch Pro 3", it's pretty darn annoying.
for example : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2009/09/28/htc-leo-touch-pro-3-pics.html
Idiots! This crud is to quality reporting what herpes is to world peace.

Shame your way of thinking is so radical...
I wouldn´t call anyone an idiot
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Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...

Shasarak said:
How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.
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In my country, the TP2 came out about 2 - 3 months after the HD.
I would like to think that May 2010 seems to be realistic for TP3... 4.3 inch capacitive, 1ghz snapdragon with slide out keyboard!
Right now I am just waiting to ditch my HERO for the HD2 the moment it comes out

orelsi said:
Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...
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completly agree!!