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Reviews/Videos/Photos of the released HTC Touch Pro:
Review on PhoneArena
Russian Review on mobile-review.com (in russian - but great photos)
One week with the Pro report can be found on coolsmartphone.com
Day1
Day2
Day3
Day4
First real written review found on pocketnow.com (must see)
Video review and photos on mobility today (a must see)
New close up shots on OMIO
Unboxing video on pocketnow.com
Hardware close up on pocketnow.com (a must see)
Software and other features coverd in this video on pocketnow.com
First Video-review found on Omio Part I, here is part II
Q&A on the Touch Pro with OMIO
Unboxing video found on Omio
iPhone/Touch Pro text input challenge found on Omio
Touch Diamond / Pro Side-By-Side photos and benchmarks found on Phonereport (Original and Full spanish review found on lifemobility.blogspot.com/)
Stuff on Mobiletech Addicts (4 links): Benchmarks, Side-by-Side Photos, Video-look-at and review (including the look at video)
Unboxing Video at Tracy and Matt
TV-out photos on our forum
Hands-on photos found on Engadget
Pre-release stuff:
HTC Touch Pro HandsOn Hardware
HTC Touch Pro HandsOn Software
and
HTC Touch Pro - Getting started by HTC
The last video is probably an indicator that the pro release is not far away...
Update:
Just to have all the video footage together for those who are new, take a look at the following
PhoneMag Hands On
IDG spanish coverage
Early Promo Slideshow
Here is a report on some "quality time" with the Touch Pro on Cnet Asia... sounds promissing - and honestly: I like Touchflo with the upcoming TouchXperience a lot more than the Xperia Interface...
08/12/08: Check out new pics on engadget - HTC Touch Pro hands on - best image quality I have seen so far
Mod Edit: Adding these links to the wiki, great stuff

Nice sir, very nice.

Arne Hess also commented that he is going to post footage of the TV out feature and a running touch pro very soon
Should be nice...
Regarding the getting started video: I really like the fact that TouchFlo 3D really appears to be silky smooth now... I cannot wait any longer XD

Yup, i noticed that too, very smooth!

Software Review
I can't wait for the software review it should be good. I bet there are some differences compared to the Diamond.

Software Review!
The software review is up:
HTC Touch Pro Software and GUI Hands-on

i would guess, the extra ram should make a big diff in the TF3d performance compared to the diamond... right?

psperos said:
i would guess, the extra ram should make a big diff in the TF3d performance compared to the diamond... right?
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At least in the software video it appears to be the case. The TouchFlo 3D interface is very smooth and responsive.
I hope they are going to tweak TouchFlo in landscape mode a bit more to make it more "shiny". But honestly using the keyboard this is more than sufficient. What do you want with the weather panel while using the keyboard? Being able to access all the typing applications quickly with the keyboard out makes most sense to me.
And I guess that using the home button while being in any other application while sliding out the keyboard will bring you back to the landscape touch flo interface (3D it is not... )

damnit. my Nokia N73 committed suicide. It literally hanged and the service point says it can not be repaired. problem with the board.
I need this phone to be released immediately. =\

StaticPlaya said:
The software review is up:
HTC Touch Pro Software and GUI Hands-on
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Lol @ the voice, wasn't any human available so they hired a robot?
Now being more serious, I expected more from the landscape mode, but I don't think that's a huge problem.

billybobjones said:
I need this phone to be released immediately. =\
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Signed

I don't like how they did away with all the hardware buttons. That's going to be a pain-in-the-rear.

KyleK29 said:
I don't like how they did away with all the hardware buttons. That's going to be a pain-in-the-rear.
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I agree 100%. This alone might make be enough to make me jump ship (and the driver debacle, that too). The jog wheel means that much to me.

<insertwittyusernamehere> said:
I agree 100%. This alone might make be enough to make me jump ship (and the driver debacle, that too). The jog wheel means that much to me.
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its a TOUCH category , so it should have less HW keys

I dont want to seem funny or anything, but in what little I can find out about this phone, I have deduced that it is everything the touch diamond is... except for it has a keyboard... and that the landscape "touchflo 3d" is pretty much 8 icons...
please, someone tell me im wrong and that ive missed something here...

Touch Pro has:
More RAM (288MB)
LED light for camera
Hardware keyboard
Higher battery capacity
TV out
microSDHC slot (instead of built-in 4GB in Diamond)
it's possible that I forgot something...

more RAM ay... i guess it depends on whether it really will speed up things, or whether itll go back to the usual problem of the graphics drivers being non-exsistant.
Personally, and im probably on my own here, it just seems that the pro will be £100+ more because it has a keyboard and a few more little things... dont get me wrong, i got my kaiser because i love having a real qwerty etc, i just wish that it had a bit more "oomph" behind it than the diamond... and some graphic drivers

Lanyz said:
Touch Pro has:
More RAM (288MB)
LED light for camera
Hardware keyboard
Higher battery capacity
TV out
microSDHC slot (instead of built-in 4GB in Diamond)
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Weight of 165g opposed the 110g from Diamond

comes with Worldcard mobile and JetCet print pre-installed.....??
Nah, doesn't excite me either!
Anyhoo, you end up with around 200MB Program memory and 320MB Storage Memory just after a hard reset. That's more than on my advantage!!

No demo of the camera in the software demo huh? That's not usually a good sign.

HTC Touch: Diamond Vs Pro Vs HD

Hi guys,
I am new to this forum.. I would appreciate your input...I have a question regarding these HTC PDA's
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Touch HD
Which one is the best out of these in all standards... I have read about some problems with Diamond and Pro. but I would like you hear your opinions as I am going to place an order this week for one of these.
cheers

Touch Pro has the advantage of a keyboard, Touch HD has the advantage in everything else. That makes it easy enough.

welcome to the forum....I like the Touch HD. U can find more compare info on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425031

Thundarr The Barbarian said:
Touch Pro has the advantage of a keyboard, Touch HD has the advantage in everything else. That makes it easy enough.
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Completly agree mate
If HD makes a model with sliding super slim keyboard!! then could be the expected succesor of Uni.
I´ll go for the HD!

HTC Touch Pro HD
I am seriously thinking of replacing my long-in-the-tooth Tilt with the HTC Touch HD, but I love the slide out keyboard. Any chance that HTC will be bringing out a HTC Touch Pro HD in the next 6-8 months?

I wouldn't hold my breath for a HD with a keyboard as it defeats the object of having a large screen so you can get a usable size soft keyboard. Plus we know what it's been developed to compete with so anything that would make it bigger, heavier than the direct competition, like a slide out keyboard isn't going to happen IMHO.
As for the original question...
Pro and HD have expandable memory via MicroSD card were Diamond has fixed 4GB.
HD is the only one with a standard 3.5mm audio jack... for the others you need to buy an adapter.
HD is more or less an iPhone clone in terms of physical size so if you like that form factor its the one to go for. (my ideal would be the Diamond which is very slim)
Specification wise the Pro and HD are very similar but I guess that because the delayed release the HD will get an updated version of the TouchFlo system to make use of the big fancy screen.
hope it helps you make an informed decision

Ditto if the HD had a keyboard it would be HUUUUGE. Like having a universal TV remote in your pocket at all times.

not being released in the US

touch pro is best
touch hd:
1-no keyboard
2-no d pad
3-no camera flash
4-no camera buttom
5-big size
6-smaller life time battery ...assuming that compared with pro same 1350 battery but hd bigger screen
7-no tv output

I like the look of the HD but agree with the posts here a keyboard would make it awesome.

i also believe that the HD is the best of those three - alas, i love qwerty keyboards and since i couldn't decide between the HD and the Diamond PRO 0 and since i didn't want to choose between a slider keyboard and an awesome screen, i chose the xperia and would heartly recommend doing the same thing; it's a great device and you definitely won't regret buying it (especially that it runs the HD touchflo3d just fine!)

Touch Pro vs. Samsung Omnia?

Sorry if this is completly out of place here but I just have to ask!
I am getting tired of all the problems with HTC devices, and I am considering buying another device just to be able to do what I want!
Let´s face it, I have had many different HTC devices, and there is always a problem somewhere! Either it´s the video driver or gps lag or whatever...
Now, I am not ready to give up on my TP just yet, and that is mainly becouse of this great forum. So I am keeping my TP to see if things get better in the future!
But I still want to be able to use my GPS software properly, and would also like to be able to watch movies without having to bring another set of devices with me where ever I go!
I was looking at the new Touch HD, but it seems that it has video issues as well!
So now I was thinking about the Samsung Omnia!
All the reviews I read so far seems promising, the device is very fast and is even DivX certified!
My question is, have you used or do you own a Samsung Omnia?
If yes, then what is your opinion about it? Is it really as good as I think it is or is it just another HTC like device with many buggs?
Will I be able to watch my videos smoothly or not?
Will I be able to use the gps without lag?
How does it compare to TP when it comes to other programs and games?
How is the screen compared to TP, does it feal much bigger or not?
Or maybe you can suggest another device that meets my demands, I am open for sugestion!
I know these are alot of questions, but I hope that some of you can help me out here! I am really frustrated that I have to bring several different devices with me to be able to do everything that my expencive TP was supposed to be able to do!
Thanks to all of you in advance!

my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
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for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...

venom037 said:
my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
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for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...
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The fact the HD is bigger then Omnia is no issue for me, and I also think that HD is the better looking device!
However I read in the HD forum that HD still has problems with video playback, now if that is true it´s a complete turn off for me!

A negative, Omnia won't have world 3G (850/1900 + 2100).

NuShrike said:
A negative, Omnia won't have world 3G (850/1900 + 2100).
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I live in Sweden, does that apply even here or just for US?

branko.savic said:
The fact the HD is bigger then Omnia is no issue for me, and I also think that HD is the better looking device!
However I read in the HD forum that HD still has problems with video playback, now if that is true it´s a complete turn off for me!
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the default playback is not important to me as I only use CorePlayer... unless i'm mistaken and ur talking abt the phone hardware itself.... that i'm not technical enough to comment on.

venom037 said:
the default playback is not important to me as I only use CorePlayer... unless i'm mistaken and ur talking abt the phone hardware itself.... that i'm not technical enough to comment on.
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I think it is problem with hardware becouse they say that there is no smooth playback even with CP without converting!

Maybe another device is better then Omnia?
If Omnia is not as good, maybe you all can suggest me another device that will fit my needs?
Thanks!

I am responsible for the mobile devices in our company. I have a T-Mobile Vario IV (HTC Touch Pro) and a T-Mobile Vario III (HTC Kaiser) for my own use. I have ordered and configured 2 Samsung Omnia, 3 Vario IV, 3 Compact IV (HTC Diamond) and the best after all is the Vario IV.
The Omnia software feels not very well. The TF3D ist much more comfortable als feels really smooth.

If you can live without the g-sensor, get the Xperia X1 and put HD manilla on it.

Kraize said:
If you can live without the g-sensor, get the Xperia X1 and put HD manilla on it.
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I tought the X1 had a much smaller screen, and less RAM?

Bigger, higher res screen than touch pro, better battery too. And 3.5mm headphones. If only it had been available in Australia a month ago (still isn't). That said, I like my touch pro. The GPS isn't so bad it's not useful and it's a big improvement on my old Hermes...

I was trying to decide between the Omnia and the Pro myself. I ended up keeping my Touch Pro - largely because of the cost difference between identical plans with Sprint and Verizon.
Video will definitely run smoothly on the Omnia because it has a faster processor, and is not running a VGA screen. The screen is much lower resolution and nonstandard though it's bigger. That said, quality TV Out will be limited to files it's native player can output. Otherwise, you're only getting the resolution of the screen, 400 x 240 I think.
On the Touch Pro, I've gotten good performance with the files I normally play using either Coreplayer or Divx Player. I've heard bad reviews about unconverted files using TV Out - but am waiting for a cable to try myself.
When you're comparing screens - the Touch Pro is higher resolution but the Omnia is bigger. I can see positives and negatives to both in viewing webpages or images. But for video play and output the Omnia should be faster.

By the way, I should add that though the Touch HD has a bigger, 800 x 480 screen - video play should be slower/choppier than the Touch pro because it has the same processor. The same processor would have to move even more pixels, which is already causing slow performance with the Raphael's VGA screen.
The only possibility for better performance with a VGA (or higher) screen, is a faster processor or better integrated video drivers.

If I were you, I wouldn't sink a lot of money into a samsung phone. IMO they are generally not very good. That being said, the Omnia is obviously not a standard samsung.
pros
-it has innovative interface
-bigger screen
-good with media
cons
-lower res screen (is it wqvga? i think it is)
-NO STYLUS SLOT (huge turnoff)
no qwerty (we are comparing to touch pro here)
this being said, I feel that there is little the omnia can do that the pro can't. with coreplayer, video playback is flawless for me, even when i am viewing a 700mb divx encoded movie

I purchased omnia!
Okey, so I decided to buy the Omnia even if most of you voted against it!
Boy am I glad I did that!
I have spent almost this whole day testing the device, the first thing I tested was to copy a 1.2 gb Xvid movie to it, it played out of the box with it´s built in touch player so I did not even have to install CorePlayer! And do I even have to mention that it did not lag/stutter even once watching the whole movie, with alot of action scenes!
Then I installed TomTom 7 and BeeLine GPS and went out for a walk!
Testing BeelineGPS while walking was a whole different experience then with my Touch Pro, the compas view rotated and adjusted it´s position with every step I took! (With Touch Pro it only updated every 10 to 20 meters!) What a difference!
TomTom performed just as well, it followed my car exactly even in high speed!
And it is alot snappier then my Touch Pro even tho it has less ram! Rotating screen is an instant and overall performance is way better then the TP!
Bare in mind that I have installed custom speedy rom in my TP, and the Omnia is all original! Now imagine what this device can do with a custom rom!
I dont know about you, but I can just say that I dont believe I made a misstake with this device, but I have to keep testing it a bit more, just had it one day so far!

venom037 said:
my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
.
.
.
for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...
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As I said, I bought the omnia yesterday, and today after two days of pretty heavy use, I still have 40% battery left!
So the batter is in fact better then in my tp which did not even last for one full day!

What network has the Omnia? I want one! This fuze has done nothing but frustrate me! What carrier are you with?

Duder29 said:
What network has the Omnia? I want one! This fuze has done nothing but frustrate me! What carrier are you with?
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I live in Sweden so I am not familiar with the networks in us, but this is what I see in my Omnia settings: Automatic, GSM 900/1800, GSM 850/1900 and WCDMA!
I should point out that this is a 3G device and it works great here in sweden, it also has HSDPA (Hight speed internet!)
Hope this helps!

I love my Omnia, but especially with this ROM: http://www.modaco.com/content/i900-...illa2d-with-flashlite-3-1-and-uc-dthj9-m2d03/
But I can get a great deal on a Fuze through work and I'm tempted to pick one up as well... this last month or so that I've had the Omnia is the first time since the Blue Angel came out that I haven't had an HTC device

Toshiba TG01: the iPhone and Touch HD killer

Just to clarify, the title is not from me ...
Have you seen the TG01??
I knew Tosh were doing some WM devices, but nothing really fancy so far.
This one sounds like the best ever...
Design wise, it looks quite sexy. 9.9mm thin and 4.1" WVGA screen!!
UI wise, need to see more.... looks a bit weird those stripey stuffs.
There're already a lot of articles on the web, just google "Toshiba TG01".
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/0...led-faster-slimmer-better-screen-than-iphone/
http://www.t3.com/news/toshiba-stuns-with-the-new-tg01-touchscreen-mobile-phone?=38013
It's got Flash support, so I guess it is IEM6... but more, apparently you can watch DivX and play HD games!
With the Qualcomm SnapDragon at 1GHz?
Any of you guys, more specs?

full flash support at last available on a mobile with a decent screen !!!

Then tomorrow there will be iPhone, Touch HD and Toshiba TG01 killer...
ohhh I want this home screen, can anyone make it happen?

I just saw this on "The Register" and ran here to try and tell everyone.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/03/toshiba_tg01/
Based on the spec, it seems a GORGEOUS phone.

My future phone. I'm still a little disappointed to know that that will come out this summer ...

I needs me that phone!
It better come with US 3g support.

http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
full specs

not nearly enough hardware buttons

It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...

stefn22 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
full specs
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Not exactly, how about the RAM? Other than that, expansion for 32 GB and a 1 Ghz processor... very neat! Maybe the most important spec of all (which is also missing).... how much?!?!?

orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
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Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.

this is one awesome looking & powerful device...
but need to see the full specs and price once released...

No one mentioned anything about battery life.

I wonder if they just made those specs???
See it in action.
So there is no stylus? Not dual SIM? Screen res. 65k only? 512mb onboard memory? But all in all everything is great. Slim, BIG and fast. Monster!
What about sliding keyboard? But I guess it won't be that slim if there's a keyboard. If only I can...I will definitely buy this WinMo device now.

If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
I guess "style" isn´t everything
Oh man....

Oh I LIKE that interface!
HTC has TouchFlo, Xperia has Panels, this Tosh has Stripes.

toshiba
the specs are very intresting but i think touch HD is the tallest phone i will be confortable with....this one is even taller...

orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
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Add Toshi's record of bad support and buggy OS... That is, I wouldn't hold my breath. Hope they've learnt from their past mistakes.
I haven't readlly checked out the specs, just one q:
- does it have a capacitive screen?
- can it record calls?
- does it have a quality (!) camera?
(-does it have quality stereo speakers with stereo widening?)

fotoingo said:
If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
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Even a crappy D-pad is better than nothing at all (see the Touch HD), which, practically, makes gaming / emu running almost impossible.

ZenithUK said:
Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.
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In the past, Toshi's PDA's / phones haven't been manufactured by HTC.

HTC Pro.Three Anyone?

Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000

It looks fantastic, though in Australia it probably will cost $1k+ ;{
How does the Snapdragon measure up to Tegra?

See this active thread for the latest info on a very cool htc ppc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143

Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line EDITED Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the EDITED pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the EDITED pro 3

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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Im actually glad this doesn't have a physical keyboard. with a 4.3" capacitative touch screen and 1ghz, this on screen keyboard should be even better. Plus, less bulk

Agree mate, I don't use the keyboard and I want a light weight HTC ppc, big screen & Powerful cpu! So this will be my next device

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).

Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
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How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.

theomni said:
Really liking the design thus far. The back looks rubberized, has better speakers, and on top of that, it looks like that there is some derivative of a xenon flash? I like how the name is put on the back too. Plus, 1 ghz is what's attracting me here.
From everything that I've read, it is either going to be 5 or 8 MP camera. I'll be happy with either so long as HTC makes the camera of good quality, not the crap we've seen on the diamonds.
Will definitely invest the ~$500-$600 for this phone, but chances are this may run up to $1,000
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It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.

Shasarak said:
It's not a Xenon flash, it's simply dual-LED. And the camera is 5MP, not 8. I wouldn't hold your breath for an HTC phone with a good camera.
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It's good to have a phone maker focus on making great phones rather than making 12MP camera *cough*Samsung*cough* with the same crappy CMOS sensor as a $25 webcam.
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.

orb3000 said:
Some discordance seems to be around---
As the line Touch Pro product line is with hardware keyboard, like Rapahel aka touch pro and rhodium aka touch pro 2
So the touch pro 3 should have a keyboard
Anyone have this more clear?
what is shure is that leo is not the touch pro 3
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The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!

lude219 said:
I'm actually glad that HTC doesnt bother themselves with 1080p video and TV-out functions and actually focus on what's important -- improving the user experience WITHIN the phone.
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I'd quite like to see a phone with HDMI output so you can use it as a pocketsized media PC. Actually a phone with a built-in high-definition projector would be quite neat too. (They do make projector phones, but not in HD as far as I know).

Leechoonhwee said:
The Leo is actually HD2 instead of Touch Pro 3. I am very sure that a version with the slide out keyboard will follow very soon aka TP3 with the exact same spec as HD2.
For me, I will get the HD2 for the uprated hardware and capacitive touch screen and then change to TP3 when it launches in the near future (I hope).
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Thanks for the aclaration, I guess I´m going to wait till a harware keyboard comes out as is a must for me
mr_Ray said:
The problem there is that you are completely inventing the word "Touch". It does not appear at all on the device! This is "Pro.Three" not "Touch Pro 3". Quite different.
Of course, it may not appear anywhere under the Pro.Three branding, and this may have even just been a prototype naming not for public release, and it will be HD2 everywhere.
Stop inventing the word "Touch"! Why are so many people doing this? I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Supoer Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,

mr_Ray said:
I may as wonder why they are calling it the "Super Gopher Molester Pro 3" when it doesn't molest gophers! That's because "Super Gopher Molester" isn't in the name!
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I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.

balf said:
I'd buy that. Bill Murray should have had one, that gopher wouldn't have caused him so much trouble.
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I'm not an advocate for man+gopher relationships, but I'd love to see that movie (FOR COMEDIC REASONS ONLY...I SWEAR!).

orb3000 said:
You´re right is not touch, but hey relax!
I was just searching about all this as I was not sure...
Peace,
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Nothing against you, you're just the first one at hand to rant at!
It's just annoying the number of people that can't read a few simple words in front of their own eyes. Fair enough on a forum, but when you have supposed "news sites" that allegedly specialse in phone info reporting the release of the "Touch Pro 3", it's pretty darn annoying.
for example : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2009/09/28/htc-leo-touch-pro-3-pics.html
Idiots! This crud is to quality reporting what herpes is to world peace.

Shame your way of thinking is so radical...
I wouldn´t call anyone an idiot
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Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...

Shasarak said:
How long after the Touch HD launched did the Touch Pro 2 come out?
I think HTC is operating on a roughly annual cycle. The Touch HD2 is due out roughly a year after the original Touch HD. I wouldn't expect to see the successor to the TP2 and TD2 until May 2010.
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In my country, the TP2 came out about 2 - 3 months after the HD.
I would like to think that May 2010 seems to be realistic for TP3... 4.3 inch capacitive, 1ghz snapdragon with slide out keyboard!
Right now I am just waiting to ditch my HERO for the HD2 the moment it comes out

orelsi said:
Leo doesn't cover my list of requirements . I need a 4 inch resistive screen, 1 ghz cpu, slide-out keyboard, quality speakers, WinMo and a d-pad.
Leo will be HD 2, but Leo with a keyboard might get to be TOUCH Pro 3. Anyway, TOUCH Pro 3 will have similar specs, judging by the current HTC policy. I am looking forward to hearing about the TOUCH Pro 3 and replacing my X1 with it. The X2 sucks, TP2 sucks and any device without a keyboard is pathetic as far as I'm concerned. TOUCH Pro 3 might be the one.
P.S. TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH, TOUCH...
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completly agree!!