Related
Sorry if this is completly out of place here but I just have to ask!
I am getting tired of all the problems with HTC devices, and I am considering buying another device just to be able to do what I want!
Let´s face it, I have had many different HTC devices, and there is always a problem somewhere! Either it´s the video driver or gps lag or whatever...
Now, I am not ready to give up on my TP just yet, and that is mainly becouse of this great forum. So I am keeping my TP to see if things get better in the future!
But I still want to be able to use my GPS software properly, and would also like to be able to watch movies without having to bring another set of devices with me where ever I go!
I was looking at the new Touch HD, but it seems that it has video issues as well!
So now I was thinking about the Samsung Omnia!
All the reviews I read so far seems promising, the device is very fast and is even DivX certified!
My question is, have you used or do you own a Samsung Omnia?
If yes, then what is your opinion about it? Is it really as good as I think it is or is it just another HTC like device with many buggs?
Will I be able to watch my videos smoothly or not?
Will I be able to use the gps without lag?
How does it compare to TP when it comes to other programs and games?
How is the screen compared to TP, does it feal much bigger or not?
Or maybe you can suggest another device that meets my demands, I am open for sugestion!
I know these are alot of questions, but I hope that some of you can help me out here! I am really frustrated that I have to bring several different devices with me to be able to do everything that my expencive TP was supposed to be able to do!
Thanks to all of you in advance!
my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
.
.
.
for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...
venom037 said:
my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
.
.
.
for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The fact the HD is bigger then Omnia is no issue for me, and I also think that HD is the better looking device!
However I read in the HD forum that HD still has problems with video playback, now if that is true it´s a complete turn off for me!
A negative, Omnia won't have world 3G (850/1900 + 2100).
NuShrike said:
A negative, Omnia won't have world 3G (850/1900 + 2100).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I live in Sweden, does that apply even here or just for US?
branko.savic said:
The fact the HD is bigger then Omnia is no issue for me, and I also think that HD is the better looking device!
However I read in the HD forum that HD still has problems with video playback, now if that is true it´s a complete turn off for me!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the default playback is not important to me as I only use CorePlayer... unless i'm mistaken and ur talking abt the phone hardware itself.... that i'm not technical enough to comment on.
venom037 said:
the default playback is not important to me as I only use CorePlayer... unless i'm mistaken and ur talking abt the phone hardware itself.... that i'm not technical enough to comment on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it is problem with hardware becouse they say that there is no smooth playback even with CP without converting!
Maybe another device is better then Omnia?
If Omnia is not as good, maybe you all can suggest me another device that will fit my needs?
Thanks!
I am responsible for the mobile devices in our company. I have a T-Mobile Vario IV (HTC Touch Pro) and a T-Mobile Vario III (HTC Kaiser) for my own use. I have ordered and configured 2 Samsung Omnia, 3 Vario IV, 3 Compact IV (HTC Diamond) and the best after all is the Vario IV.
The Omnia software feels not very well. The TF3D ist much more comfortable als feels really smooth.
If you can live without the g-sensor, get the Xperia X1 and put HD manilla on it.
Kraize said:
If you can live without the g-sensor, get the Xperia X1 and put HD manilla on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tought the X1 had a much smaller screen, and less RAM?
Bigger, higher res screen than touch pro, better battery too. And 3.5mm headphones. If only it had been available in Australia a month ago (still isn't). That said, I like my touch pro. The GPS isn't so bad it's not useful and it's a big improvement on my old Hermes...
I was trying to decide between the Omnia and the Pro myself. I ended up keeping my Touch Pro - largely because of the cost difference between identical plans with Sprint and Verizon.
Video will definitely run smoothly on the Omnia because it has a faster processor, and is not running a VGA screen. The screen is much lower resolution and nonstandard though it's bigger. That said, quality TV Out will be limited to files it's native player can output. Otherwise, you're only getting the resolution of the screen, 400 x 240 I think.
On the Touch Pro, I've gotten good performance with the files I normally play using either Coreplayer or Divx Player. I've heard bad reviews about unconverted files using TV Out - but am waiting for a cable to try myself.
When you're comparing screens - the Touch Pro is higher resolution but the Omnia is bigger. I can see positives and negatives to both in viewing webpages or images. But for video play and output the Omnia should be faster.
By the way, I should add that though the Touch HD has a bigger, 800 x 480 screen - video play should be slower/choppier than the Touch pro because it has the same processor. The same processor would have to move even more pixels, which is already causing slow performance with the Raphael's VGA screen.
The only possibility for better performance with a VGA (or higher) screen, is a faster processor or better integrated video drivers.
If I were you, I wouldn't sink a lot of money into a samsung phone. IMO they are generally not very good. That being said, the Omnia is obviously not a standard samsung.
pros
-it has innovative interface
-bigger screen
-good with media
cons
-lower res screen (is it wqvga? i think it is)
-NO STYLUS SLOT (huge turnoff)
no qwerty (we are comparing to touch pro here)
this being said, I feel that there is little the omnia can do that the pro can't. with coreplayer, video playback is flawless for me, even when i am viewing a 700mb divx encoded movie
I purchased omnia!
Okey, so I decided to buy the Omnia even if most of you voted against it!
Boy am I glad I did that!
I have spent almost this whole day testing the device, the first thing I tested was to copy a 1.2 gb Xvid movie to it, it played out of the box with it´s built in touch player so I did not even have to install CorePlayer! And do I even have to mention that it did not lag/stutter even once watching the whole movie, with alot of action scenes!
Then I installed TomTom 7 and BeeLine GPS and went out for a walk!
Testing BeelineGPS while walking was a whole different experience then with my Touch Pro, the compas view rotated and adjusted it´s position with every step I took! (With Touch Pro it only updated every 10 to 20 meters!) What a difference!
TomTom performed just as well, it followed my car exactly even in high speed!
And it is alot snappier then my Touch Pro even tho it has less ram! Rotating screen is an instant and overall performance is way better then the TP!
Bare in mind that I have installed custom speedy rom in my TP, and the Omnia is all original! Now imagine what this device can do with a custom rom!
I dont know about you, but I can just say that I dont believe I made a misstake with this device, but I have to keep testing it a bit more, just had it one day so far!
venom037 said:
my 2 cents...
list out ur priorities in what you want and then choose from there...
ie
video = get iphone
GSP = get nokia
.
.
.
for what u have stated, i'd personally get the HD over the Omina as its more sexy but its a bit bigger which is a turn off. If ur choices are limited to HD or Omina then I'd choose HD as I would think the battery would be better and lets face it... all phone are crap if the battery sucks...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said, I bought the omnia yesterday, and today after two days of pretty heavy use, I still have 40% battery left!
So the batter is in fact better then in my tp which did not even last for one full day!
What network has the Omnia? I want one! This fuze has done nothing but frustrate me! What carrier are you with?
Duder29 said:
What network has the Omnia? I want one! This fuze has done nothing but frustrate me! What carrier are you with?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I live in Sweden so I am not familiar with the networks in us, but this is what I see in my Omnia settings: Automatic, GSM 900/1800, GSM 850/1900 and WCDMA!
I should point out that this is a 3G device and it works great here in sweden, it also has HSDPA (Hight speed internet!)
Hope this helps!
I love my Omnia, but especially with this ROM: http://www.modaco.com/content/i900-...illa2d-with-flashlite-3-1-and-uc-dthj9-m2d03/
But I can get a great deal on a Fuze through work and I'm tempted to pick one up as well... this last month or so that I've had the Omnia is the first time since the Blue Angel came out that I haven't had an HTC device
Just to clarify, the title is not from me ...
Have you seen the TG01??
I knew Tosh were doing some WM devices, but nothing really fancy so far.
This one sounds like the best ever...
Design wise, it looks quite sexy. 9.9mm thin and 4.1" WVGA screen!!
UI wise, need to see more.... looks a bit weird those stripey stuffs.
There're already a lot of articles on the web, just google "Toshiba TG01".
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/0...led-faster-slimmer-better-screen-than-iphone/
http://www.t3.com/news/toshiba-stuns-with-the-new-tg01-touchscreen-mobile-phone?=38013
It's got Flash support, so I guess it is IEM6... but more, apparently you can watch DivX and play HD games!
With the Qualcomm SnapDragon at 1GHz?
Any of you guys, more specs?
full flash support at last available on a mobile with a decent screen !!!
Then tomorrow there will be iPhone, Touch HD and Toshiba TG01 killer...
ohhh I want this home screen, can anyone make it happen?
I just saw this on "The Register" and ran here to try and tell everyone.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/03/toshiba_tg01/
Based on the spec, it seems a GORGEOUS phone.
My future phone. I'm still a little disappointed to know that that will come out this summer ...
I needs me that phone!
It better come with US 3g support.
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
full specs
not nearly enough hardware buttons
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
stefn22 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_tg01-2662.php
full specs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not exactly, how about the RAM? Other than that, expansion for 32 GB and a 1 Ghz processor... very neat! Maybe the most important spec of all (which is also missing).... how much?!?!?
orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.
this is one awesome looking & powerful device...
but need to see the full specs and price once released...
No one mentioned anything about battery life.
I wonder if they just made those specs???
See it in action.
So there is no stylus? Not dual SIM? Screen res. 65k only? 512mb onboard memory? But all in all everything is great. Slim, BIG and fast. Monster!
What about sliding keyboard? But I guess it won't be that slim if there's a keyboard. If only I can...I will definitely buy this WinMo device now.
If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
I guess "style" isn´t everything
Oh man....
Oh I LIKE that interface!
HTC has TouchFlo, Xperia has Panels, this Tosh has Stripes.
toshiba
the specs are very intresting but i think touch HD is the tallest phone i will be confortable with....this one is even taller...
orb3000 said:
It´s beautyfull!
Just 3 cons I can see:
1. NO physical keyboard
2. WM 6.1
3. No support form this site as is not HTC build
Just my opinion...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Add Toshi's record of bad support and buggy OS... That is, I wouldn't hold my breath. Hope they've learnt from their past mistakes.
I haven't readlly checked out the specs, just one q:
- does it have a capacitive screen?
- can it record calls?
- does it have a quality (!) camera?
(-does it have quality stereo speakers with stereo widening?)
fotoingo said:
If only there will ever be a device with a big screen (at least 3,5 inch), a NORMAL D-Pad and a sliding qwerty keyboard which is fast and nice looking...
Something like the HTC Universal (but with a sliding keyboard) with -2009- specs...
I HATE "touchsensitive" keys, trackballs and CRAPPY D-Pads like the one on the Touch Pro/Diamond.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even a crappy D-pad is better than nothing at all (see the Touch HD), which, practically, makes gaming / emu running almost impossible.
ZenithUK said:
Fair enough on the keyboard and OS as you can't please everyone.
I reckon there would be enough overlap between this Tosh handset and the HTC phones to make it worthwhile. The SE X1 isn't marketed as HTC but we know it's *built* by them... so it's got it's own section at the bottom of the forum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In the past, Toshi's PDA's / phones haven't been manufactured by HTC.
TG01 to TG02 for free.
Look here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqqF5Pbrkew
☆Toshiba TG01 to TG02 for free☆ Just install spb mobile shell.
You will have Toshiba TG02 by just adding Spb Mobile shell interface.
They both have :-
Same processor 1ghz Snapdragon, same camera 3.2 Mega Pixel, Same screen size 4.1Inch.
TG01 is currently £159.99 (with 8 gig mem card) on orange and is the fastest phone available today. With a superb screen size of 4.1Inch that is a joy to watch movies on. Full desktop support for flash video websites like YouTube and others. Giving you Youtube as if you were using a desktop pc full YouTube with all the search options and comments. Just like it is on your pc or laptop.
3D gaming that is as smooth as silk and Microsoft Marketplace for apps and games + thousands of free apps and games on the net. For your money get the TG01 unless the capacitive screen is enough for an expensive upgrade. Then just install Spb Mobile Shell.
Yeah, and get loads of bugs with it too!, like poor phone calls, feeling slower than it should feel, and so on...
Who knows, maybe the TG02 will end up being like this as well anyways!!
Yes those bugs are still present. TG02 just basically had a face lift of TG01 with Spb Mobile Shell. Thisw phone is basically identical tech.
Then why should anyone bother to get the TG02!!!
Stupid Toshiba...
this version of mobile shell is out since 8 weeks^^
The TG02 run´s WM 6.5.3, thats the different to the TG01...
and mobile shell ähm sucks
the main difference seems to be the capacitive display vs the resistive one
Capacitive display vs the resistive one is the main upgrade to the TG02. That is correct. £159 compared to £489 for capacitive and mobile shell is just way to expensive because most all other specs are the same. Still it is not 100% confirmed it is capacitive screen. K01 would be the best upgrade due to the hardware qwerty Keyboard. But expect to be stung on price for it.
TG01 with ps3 bluetooth keyboard is the way to go for most cost effective way of doing things. The ps3 keypad works great for fpsx and other games/apps.
i don't understand the sense of this topic . spb mobile shell runs on htc p3600, or htc HD..that doesn't mean that it will be tg02 . you cannot upgrade for example the capacitiv screen, which is intro TG02.
Well...
The TG02 does have capacitive screen. 100% confirmed
And they also made it smaller by taking some of the plastic frame.
looks cool but I will wait for the extreme drop in price after they will find out that unhappy costumers is much stronger than any advertising campaign they will make.
Its not that the TG01 is so bad.but on the first problem that 90% of the users complained about (Call Quality) they found out Toshiba support stinks!
Maybe it will become a good bargain for poor students like me =)
Its good to hear about the screen. I know there is loads on the call quality just do the upgrade from the Toshiba site and this has cured the call problems, well on mine at least.
I still dont think I would go for a TG02. We shall all see as time goes by..
@gingerchristopher.... your sig is a little bit OOD - we certaily DO have custom ROMs now .... have a look under the ROM development section !
But your forgetting one thing....
Capacitive screen on the TG01 is superior.
arnookie said:
TG01 to TG02 for free.
Look here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqqF5Pbrkew
☆Toshiba TG01 to TG02 for free☆ Just install spb mobile shell.
You will have Toshiba TG02 by just adding Spb Mobile shell interface.
They both have :-
Same processor 1ghz Snapdragon, same camera 3.2 Mega Pixel, Same screen size 4.1Inch.
TG01 is currently £159.99 (with 8 gig mem card) on orange and is the fastest phone available today. With a superb screen size of 4.1Inch that is a joy to watch movies on. Full desktop support for flash video websites like YouTube and others. Giving you Youtube as if you were using a desktop pc full YouTube with all the search options and comments. Just like it is on your pc or laptop.
3D gaming that is as smooth as silk and Microsoft Marketplace for apps and games + thousands of free apps and games on the net. For your money get the TG01 unless the capacitive screen is enough for an expensive upgrade. Then just install Spb Mobile Shell.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wen(WM) said:
But your forgetting one thing....
Capacitive screen on the TG01 is superior.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@Wen, think you are muddling devices / screens ! TG01 = 'R' and TG02 = 'C'. Also whether Resistive or Capacitive is very much a mater of personal preference.... I absolutely favour 'R' because of the fine resolution, stylus and especially handwriting support which 'C' doesn't do. Some folk of course hanker after the lure of 'multi-touch' and huge 'finger-friendly' everything. But i'ts all a matter of taste, style and usage needs. I just hope that the manufacturers continue to recognise and support BOTH camps in future.
Yes I also like resistive screen more. Just lack of multi touch that`s the problem.
To Rival the HD2..
Had the TG01 from the first few weeks of release (before getting the HD2), yes it had some rather irritating issues, BUT two things resolve them and turn it into the great phone it should have been (to allow it to rank as an alternative to the HD2) and that is:
1)The 6.5 Update
2) SPB Shell 3.5
After that no worries!
Superb Phone. .
I was lucky to buy Toshiba TG01 for £130. Since then I have installed loads of ROMs and softwares. . I personally it is an awesome phone except two things:- bad battery life and less ROM. Apart from that it has a superb screen big, bright and clear and you cant miss to mention the connectivity options. I can connect my HDD, external mouse, keyboard, memory stick, etc. Which other phones gives all this with a Snapdragon processor. . Though Im desperately waiting for Android to be ported to Toshiba. Also use HTC Hero and simply love that too, for other reasons. .
I'm sure this has been done to death, but I'm so torn between the 2
I need the phone for web browsing, taking pictures, watching videos off the SD card, instant messaging, occasionaly editing document files plus texting&calling.
Screen
Xperia has a 4inch TFT 16M ready display, but is limited by 1.6. The Desire has a 3.7inch AMOLED screen with 16M colours.
I think that I prefer the X10's screen with it's slightly higher resolution and bigger screen (and it's more usable outside from what I have been reading). Lack of multi-touch makes little difference to me.
Camera
X10 has a 8mp camera with an LED flash and records WVGA at 30fps. The Desire has a 5mp camera also with an LED flash, records WVGA at 15fps and is rumored to haave a 720p capture update along the way.
X10's camera is better for my needs. I take more pictures anyway and according to gsmarena, the image quality is quite good
Call Quality
Good on both from what I can tell.
Tie
Handset
Well not much to write here.
I handled the X10 at a 3 store and the Desire at a Telstra store and was a more pleased with the X10. It really is a stunning phone!
Software
The Desire runs sense on Andriod 2.1 while the X10 uses time/media scape on Andriod 1.6. This is where things get complicated for me. From what I can tell (again, just by reading forums), Mediascape is better for multimedia (very important for me). However, the X10 interface seems laggy and no where near as responsive as the Desire. Is this due to to 1.6? Apparently 2.1 supports hardware acceleration which is why it's smoother. Is this correct?
Desire wins for it's smoother interface. However, if 2.1 fixes the lag in the X10, then X10 wins for me.
Hardware
They both use the same CPU, but the Desire has 1.5x more RAM than the X10
Desire easily. However, I don't multitask much, so if that's all that RAM is used for (i.e. it's not causing the slowdown in the UI), then I'm fine with the X10
You have probably guessed by now that I really want the X10. However, I only buy a phone once every 2 years (buying it on contract). So at the end of the day, I want the most future proof phone. Also, the X10's interface is not as smooth as the Desire.
Which one would you recommend for me?
Thanks!
(Also, is there a way to get landscape QWERTY on the X10?)
Herr Noobien said:
I'm sure this has been done to death, but I'm so torn between the 2
I need the phone for web browsing, taking pictures, watching videos off the SD card, instant messaging, occasionaly editing document files plus texting&calling.
Screen
Xperia has a 4inch TFT 16M ready display, but is limited by 1.6. The Desire has a 3.7inch AMOLED screen with 16M colours.
I think that I prefer the X10's screen with it's slightly higher resolution and bigger screen (and it's more usable outside from what I have been reading). Lack of multi-touch makes little difference to me.
Camera
X10 has a 8mp camera with an LED flash and records WVGA at 30fps. The Desire has a 5mp camera also with an LED flash, records WVGA at 15fps and is rumored to haave a 720p capture update along the way.
X10's camera is better for my needs. I take more pictures anyway and according to gsmarena, the image quality is quite good
Call Quality
Good on both from what I can tell.
Tie
Handset
Well not much to write here.
I handled the X10 at a 3 store and the Desire at a Telstra store and was a more pleased with the X10. It really is a stunning phone!
Software
The Desire runs sense on Andriod 2.1 while the X10 uses time/media scape on Andriod 1.6. This is where things get complicated for me. From what I can tell (again, just by reading forums), Mediascape is better for multimedia (very important for me). However, the X10 interface seems laggy and no where near as responsive as the Desire. Is this due to to 1.6? Apparently 2.1 supports hardware acceleration which is why it's smoother. Is this correct?
Desire wins for it's smoother interface. However, if 2.1 fixes the lag in the X10, then X10 wins for me.
Hardware
They both use the same CPU, but the Desire has 1.5x more RAM than the X10
Desire easily. However, I don't multitask much, so if that's all that RAM is used for (i.e. it's not causing the slowdown in the UI), then I'm fine with the X10
You have probably guessed by now that I really want the X10. However, I only buy a phone once every 2 years (buying it on contract). So at the end of the day, I want the most future proof phone. Also, the X10's interface is not as smooth as the Desire.
Which one would you recommend for me?
Thanks!
(Also, is there a way to get landscape QWERTY on the X10?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firstly, there is no such thing as futureproofing in the cellphone business, period.
It seems that you've got your mind dead-set on getting the X10 already. You've even started justifying and rationalizing the weaknesses of the X10 relative to the Desire.
If you like the phone, get it and live with it for the next 2 years. Don't overthink it, life is way too short to be worried about something as minute in the bigger scheme of things as a cellphone.
Having said that, based on the flops that are both X1 and X2, you're making a mistake. Get the Desire.
PoisonWolf said:
Firstly, there is no such thing as futureproofing in the cellphone business, period.
It seems that you've got your mind dead-set on getting the X10 already. You've even started justifying and rationalizing the weaknesses of the X10 relative to the Desire.
If you like the phone, get it and live with it for the next 2 years. Don't overthink it, life is way too short to be worried about something as minute in the bigger scheme of things as a cellphone.
Having said that, based on the flops that are both X1 and X2, you're making a mistake. Get the Desire.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I'm just a broke uni student, so getting a phone this expensive is a big deal for me. I just don't want to make the wrong choice.
Yes, I do like the X10, but I'm not sure if the better looks and camera justify the weaker hardware (and the older OS). As for the futureproofing thing, I fully understand that no phone is futureproof. I want a phone that is as future proof as possible
Herr Noobien said:
Thank you for your response. Unfortunately I'm just a broke uni student, so getting a phone this expensive is a big deal for me. I just don't want to make the wrong choice.
Yes, I do like the X10, but I'm not sure if the better looks and camera justify the weaker hardware (and the older OS). As for the futureproofing thing, I fully understand that no phone is futureproof. I want a phone that is as future proof as possible
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just answered your own question. Do you want a camera in a fancy plastic shell or do you want a normal looking phone with a powerful engine under the hood? =)
I was wondering why they made Android smartphones so big? For me the display size above 4.5 inches are useless. Who wants so big dimensions in his pocket? I had Note for a week. It was so uncomfortable. I even prefer 4.3 inch display instead 4.5 one. But these with small dimensions doesn't have good hardware.
Now according to my criteria there are only three phones with MONSTER hardware - Xiaomi MI-2 . MI-2S and Meizu MX-4
So I don't know what to buy.
What do you think? With this temp the displays will be 6 inches, which is ridiculous and ..... If I want tablet I will buy tablet.
It's a matter of opinion.
I went from a HD2 (4.3) to a SGS3 (4.8), and more and more I find even the size of my SGS3's screen to be too small. I watch a lot of films, play a lot of games and use my phone as an Ereader. Below 5" is too small for my taste. I'm actually happily anticipating the Note 3's potential 6" screen.
If all you do is the occasional casual game, post on a forum, read some webpages and do other, non-big things (More commonly referred to as 'the activities of the average iSheep'), a 4.5+" screen will probably feel bulky, yes.
Why would a small screen need heavy hardware? It's not as if it has to push a lot of pixels... . In fact, the hardware will be completely wasted as there is nothing one does that requires the processing power.
ShadowLea said:
It's a matter of opinion.
I went from a HD2 (4.3) to a SGS3 (4.8), and more and more I find even the size of my SGS3's screen to be too small. I watch a lot of films, play a lot of games and use my phone as an Ereader. Below 5" is too small for my taste. I'm actually happily anticipating the Note 3's potential 6" screen.
If all you do is the occasional casual game, post on a forum, read some webpages and do other, non-big things (More commonly referred to as 'the activities of the average iSheep'), a 4.5+" screen will probably feel bulky, yes.
Why would a small screen need heavy hardware? It's not as if it has to push a lot of pixels... . In fact, the hardware will be completely wasted as there is nothing one does that requires the processing power.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This lady knows. Listen to her. Lmao 5in is too small. Mines alot bigger. Yes I was referring to the Note II. But also the other way too
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 using XDA Premium HD
Sorry , but I am not iSheep. I hate very very much Apple iPhone!
I don't play games or if I play they are very simple. I am using it for some special thins in my daylife. Android can be programmed to do specific tasks in specific time. This is very useful. But I want a bit little size of the displays.
s1xkill3r said:
Sorry , but I am not iSheep. I hate very very much Apple iPhone!
I don't play games or if I play they are very simple. I am using it for some special thins in my daylife. Android can be programmed to do specific tasks in specific time. This is very useful. But I want a bit little size of the displays.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just get a HTC One S. Great phone, getting Sense 5 soon. Krait processor. Very slim and small. Perfect. Job done
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 using XDA Premium HD
The three options according to GSMarena.com phone finder searching tool were Xiaomi Mi-2 , Xiaomi Mi-2S and Meizu MX-4.
I am really looking for Xiaomi. It is something great , but in this forum here people don't like it. And I know the reason.
The other variants are HTC One S , HTC First or Galaxy 4. (The last is big , but not enough to be compared to S4 , One and Xperia Z).
I guess it depends on what you do with your phone. What do you do that requires "monster" hardware and if it really does, how are you able to deal with the tiny screen size ?
I have the Galaxy S3 and the screen size is too "small" for the tasks that actually use the hardware to any great extent. Temple Run is okay, but many games are hard to play on such a small screen. I've watched Netflix on it quite a few times but it's never a really pleasant experience - my 10" tablet allows for video to be immersive, but the 4.8" screen is to small to really focus in on. It's too small to navigate most web-sites on without annoyance.
Is there a special program you use that needs high-end hardware ? Are you just not bothered by the tiny screen when it comes to the above tasks ?
I don't consider the S3 to be particularly "big" or "bulky" as I can fit it in my pocket and now that I'm using only bumpers for protection (along with screen protector and phone skin) it's really quite thin - so hardly bulky at all. If it can comfortably fit in my pocket I guess I don't find it that big. I can use it one handed, too.
Yes , the usage is the most important thing.
About the games - I don't play games often. I don't like FPS or somthing like that , cause now I am too old for this kind of games. And the experience is not as good as the one on the PCs. I have played only racing games. Especially Need for Speed Series and Asphalt.
Now on my phone (Galaxy W) I have only Temple Run 2 , Scrabble , Simple Chess. Temple Run 2 lags sometimes.
For films. I don't watch films on my phone. Even if I would have 5 inch phonblet. I watch sometimes only Youtube.
So maybe it isn't necessary to buy quad core phone. Dual is enough.
But for the RAM. Maybe it should be 2 GB.
s1xkill3r said:
Yes , the usage is the most important thing.
About the games - I don't play games often. I don't like FPS or somthing like that , cause now I am too old for this kind of games. And the experience is not as good as the one on the PCs. I have played only racing games. Especially Need for Speed Series and Asphalt.
Now on my phone (Galaxy W) I have only Temple Run 2 , Scrabble , Simple Chess. Temple Run 2 lags sometimes.
For films. I don't watch films on my phone. Even if I would have 5 inch phonblet. I watch sometimes only Youtube.
So maybe it isn't necessary to buy quad core phone. Dual is enough.
But for the RAM. Maybe it should be 2 GB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that the usage is what's important. Some companies do release some small phones, like Sony and Samsung. I'm actually a really big fan of the small android phones like the Xperia Ray, S3 mini, Xperia U... okay maybe they aren't that small compared to the Xperia Minis. but their size fits right in the palm of my hand and they're pretty slim and the hardware is pretty decent for their size (the Ray is amazing, still can't get over it).
The screen size, well it is user dependent, by that i mean it depends on what you do with your phone. Some games actually feel more comfy to play on a small screen (like Cytus, easy to reach the notes but sometimes hit notes by accident.) some are also comfy to play on a bigger screen because the UI might be too small (like Plague Inc. really small map. but you can zoom in if needed. its a hassle though). For me though i prefer watching movies on my Ray because the image looks clearer on smaller screens. which i enjoy.
One comment on screen size. its equally hard to use a full keyboard on a small screen as it would be on a big screen. still press the wrong keys by accident. but that's just me
If you don't want a big phone, don't get one. Pretty simple.
tld88 said:
If you don't want a big phone, don't get one. Pretty simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Normally I'd complain about someone bringing up a year-old thread with such an inane and unhelpful comment, but things have actually changed since this thread was active.
Firstly, I'll address your comment. Small Androids are plentiful, but good small Androids aren't. And small Androids with "flagship" specs are few and far between.
In fact, there's only ONE, the Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Apart from the 4.3" 720p screen and smaller battery, it's every bit the beast of a phone as its bigger brother. Same processor, same 2GB RAM, same 20.7MP camera, same build quality, same software features, etc. In fact, since it only has a 720p screen instead of a 1080p, the Z1 Compact absolutely screams.
Even better, Sony is about to come out with the Z3 Compact (they skipped the Z2 Compact). Despite being exactly the same height and width, they're cramming a 4.6" screen (some rumors say 720p, some say 1080p) in there, and making it a hair thinner too. Dual front facing speakers, SD801 processor 2 or 3gb RAM (depending on the rumor), and the same software suite and 20.7MP camera as before.
Both are only slightly larger than an iPhone 5s or 5C, and much smaller than the current 5.0-5.5" flagship phones.
Oh, and they're waterproof.
These "Compact" Sonys are a departure from the "Mini" phones the other main manufacturers, like the Galaxy S4 Mini, LG G2 Mini, HTC One Mini(s), etc. which all are neutered spec-wise in many ways. Lower MP cameras, slower processors, less RAM, sub-HD screens, etc. And some are only "mini" in that they're not as huge as their bigger brothers, but could hardly be considered small.
The Droid Mini is a pretty good phone actually - all the specs of the Droid Ultra or Droid Maxx, but only available with Verizon in the US.
The Moto X is small for its largish screen size, and fits the hand (and pocket) nicely. It's substantially smaller than other 4.7" phones like the Nexus 4 or HTC One (M7).
I changed from my HTC Desire S to a Jiayu G3C, and it was a really big change for me. The Desire S was really good for one hand and fits perfectly in the pocket.. But the Jiayu it's really big. I think more than 4" is too much big to be called a "phone", is like I already see those phone as a "phablets"
I agree, many modern phones feel big and bulky. The range of 4-4.5'' is ideal for me.
Yes they're on the bigger side as of late as that trend continues to be in vogue, but holy moly are they lighter than any iPhone I've ever owned and used. I know the 5s is super light, but never owned one. I was used to the iPhone for awhile and never thought twice about its weight but after playing with some friends droid devices, the iPhone has always felt like a brick since then.
Nexus5 fits like a glove!
Personally, I thought the iPhone 4 was the perfect size because I could use everything on the screen comfortably with one hand. Now with my GS4 there are areas in the screen I just cant reach one handed the way I used to.
I think that They designed it for the user who often to play game and watch HD movie on their smartphone. Maybe that's why Samsung have "mini" version like Samsung S3 Mini.
But of course the can't make Galaxy Note smaller. It wouldn't be good.
It seems that soon enough we will have the Galaxy Alpha, which should be a good contender for the Z1 Compact (and it's straight successor, the Z3 Compact).
But I do agree with the OP, phones are getting a little too big for my tastes. Do notice I said "tastes", because it really is a matter of taste.
There are plenty of users willing to carry a larger device and take advantage of the added "screen real-estate".
For me are phones the best around 5-5,5 inch.
But maybe you can try out the HTC one mini or the LG G2 mini or the new Galaxy Alpha
Sent through my Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 4
For me it's the bigger the better, but we need bigger pockets on our clothes soon