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Hello everyone. I am branching over to XDA from Androidforums in need of more guidance.
First, let me say I HAVE searched for instruction to my post, I HAVE NOT been successful with any of my reading. I just closed three separate windows of firefox with a total of near 75 tabs, all related to apps2sd, but none giving the specific instruction I need.
If in reading this you can think of another thread that has my answer, PLEASE post it for me. -much appreciated
If not, please read and help if possible. (I am listing my set up in case it is user specific)
CDMA Hero
Rooted
RA-Heroc v1.2.3 Recovery
Fresh 1.0 Rom
My goal is to initialize and complete the process of setting up apps2sd system today.
I would like to sucessfully have this running and I cannot find any specific guide on "how to". I have however found MANY that speak about it after the fact.
So, please someone tell me what I need to do to set this up. I want apps off device and to have a "swap space (???)" set up.
Can I do this now (after having flashed custom rom) or do I need to start all over, beginning with apps2sd process first and then flashing Rom.
Detailed instructions much appreciated, or a link to appropriate thread.
THANKS!! Rep points for you!!
You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.
Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
EDIT: Does FreshROM 1.0 have apps2sd? I thought it only supported it if you had it on there previously.
EDIT: Never mind, I just saw this in the FreshROM apps2sd rant post - "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. "
watzone69 said:
Please edit the title of this thread and take out the [ROM] prefix. This is not a ROM and the title is misleading.
Thanks.
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Got it, sorry, done.
jonnythan said:
You just need to partition your SD card as ext2+FAT+swap and reboot. That's all.
This will erase your SD card, so be sure you copy everything off first.
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Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!
Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE
I swear I'm not a cop! I just made the same mistake once.
I tried looking for apps2sd info a while back and ran into your same dilemma. I ended up using Modaco's ROM (actually, I used the UNOFFICIAL updated modaco made by obelisk79) because it already had it on there.
TF1984 said:
Are you serious, it's that simple?!!! argggh.
Okay, but with a bit more detail... I am rebooting into recovery mode and then doing this? Can you explain with just a tad more detail? thanks!
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Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
jonnythan said:
Right in the recovery options there's one that says something like "Format SD card: Ext2+FAT+swap" or something like that. Choose that, then reboot.
I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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Okay, I found it. Thanks for the help. Is this the same as "swapping" b/c I heard a lot of negative press about swapping only working well for a day.
Tipharet said:
Haha there is no more detail. Just format your SD card with that option. WAM BAM DONE
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Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.
watzone69 said:
Well, I would back up your card first. Just copy everything over to your computer, format your card, reboot your phone and then copy everything back to your SD.
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Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
jonnythan said:
...I thought Fresh 1.0 had AppsToSD built-in. If it doesn't, this won't actually accomplish anything.
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It does.
I went back and read the "APPS2SD Rant" in flipz thread and it says: "Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD".
TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.
TF1984 said:
Yeah I found somewhere that it would obviously erase the card data. I am really trying to figure out if the apps2sd is the same as "swap" since I keep finding bad things about swapping.
Are you using apps2sd?
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Yes, I'm using it. I have read flipzmode's rant about why he doesn't like Apps2SD. I have had no problems with it.
When I ran it with the modaco/obelisk79 ROM it seemed to keep the phone relatively speedy, even with a ton of apps installed. I am using FreshROM 1.0 now and I ended up uninstalling a few apps because of lag.
EDIT: I am not inferring that FreshROM is any slower. I think the problem is on my end! BTW, I am using a 16G class 6 card.
jonnythan said:
No, it's not the same as using swap. It works fine, don't worry about it.
AppsToSD works best with a Class 6 card, since the class 6 cards are faster.
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Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?
I just did this and it pushed my apps from what I can tell. My internal storage number went from around 90mb used to 52mb. Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?
nick325i said:
...Now my real question is if I wanted to undo this.. what kind of options/headache am I looking at ?
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I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?
TF1984 said:
Unfortunately I think mine is not a class 6, it's just an 8gig standard micro sd. (PNY brand).
Anyway, so i went in recov. mode and formatted to the ext/fat/swap partition. I reloaded my card with previous data. Is that all I need to do? is there no setting I need to monitor or adjust?
and also, will my current apps get pushed to the sd or is there a process I should follow to move them to the sd?
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Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.
watzone69 said:
I think reformat is the only way back. Anyone else confirm this?
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Well yeah you would certainly have to reformat. But in addition to that you would need to re-install your apps, since they would have been removed from the card.
I was reading somewhere that you can change a setting to zero which causes the hero to pull the apps back to internal storage, leaving you not needing to re-install. cAn't remember where setting is or where i found it...
jonnythan said:
Current apps should get pushed to the SD. To make sure it's working, pull up an adb shell and do:
cd /data/app
pwd
You should see "/system/sd/app" spit back at you.
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yeah I can't remember how to do all the adb shell junk, oh well.
So I updated to the leaked Samsung 2.2 Froyo. I am trying to move apps to the sd card and I am getting an error. "Failed to move application. Not enough memory".
I have seen demos/reviews with this function working. I am also making sure I try it with apps that are compatible with the feature.
Anyone have a clue as to whats going on here.
Other than that, I love being a new Android user, ported over from the apple world. Captivate made my 3g look foolish.
Thanks in advance for any help guys.
stjalsma said:
So I updated to the leaked Samsung 2.2 Froyo. I am trying to move apps to the sd card and I am getting an error. "Failed to move application. Not enough memory".
I have seen demos/reviews with this function working. I am also making sure I try it with apps that are compatible with the feature.
Anyone have a clue as to whats going on here.
Other than that, I love being a new Android user, ported over from the apple world. Captivate made my 3g look foolish.
Thanks in advance for any help guys.
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When installing a program it will pop up, this is Apps2SD, do you want to move. Or you can see it in manage applications, select application > Move to SD is highlighted
You have to be careful with it because that silly media scanner will run and disable you sd functions. Example. You have a program that starts up when your phone starts you will get a FC because the media scanner is running.
Good to have you by the way.
I'm getting the same message, but it was working before.
I flashed a ROM and enabled lag fix. However, when I went back to stock, I forgot to disable the lag fix.
I'm back to the leaked 2.2, but I still can't move apps to the SD card. There is plenty of memory free.
Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
gospeedgo said:
I'm getting the same message, but it was working before.
I flashed a ROM and enabled lag fix. However, when I went back to stock, I forgot to disable the lag fix.
I'm back to the leaked 2.2, but I still can't move apps to the SD card. There is plenty of memory free.
Is there any way around this?
Thanks!
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Have you tried doing a master reset to remove the the lag fix or gotten the app from the market app2sd?
I tried a master clear using Odin, but I haven't tried a master reset. How is that done?
gospeedgo said:
I tried a master clear using Odin, but I haven't tried a master reset. How is that done?
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If you did a master clear with odin then it is pretty much the same thing
Oh, and when I use the app, I get the same message.
gospeedgo said:
Oh, and when I use the app, I get the same message.
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Ok I know a dumb question but do you have enough rom on your SD card? Try the apps2sd app from the market
No worries, I know you have to ask.
My SD card has 12.83GB free.
I did try using the apps2sd, but I get the same message, that there isn't enough memory.
I would say that there is an issue with the leaked rom. I would try a custom rom and see if it happens, if it is still an issue I would copy the stuff off your card and reformat it to see if that is an issue
I actually got the message the first time I tried a custom ROM. When I went back to 2.2 the problem went away, but I hadn't tried the lag fix.
When I tried another customer ROM today, I got the message again, but this time a tried the lag fix.
I forgot to disable it when I went back to stock, then to 2.2.
I did reformat the internal SD card, didn't help. That's why I turned to the forums. I'm all out of ideas.
OMG I am stupid lol. The apps to SD is for moving the APPS to an EXTERNAL sd card not the internal sd
LOL, no worries.
I don't want to waste my time, but would it be worth a try to:
1. Flash back to stock.
2. Install Clockwork recovery
3. Install customer ROM again.
4. Enable lag fix.
5. Disable lag fix.
6. Flash back to stock.
7. Master clear
8. Install 2.2 again?
gospeedgo said:
LOL, no worries.
I don't want to waste my time, but would it be worth a try to:
1. Flash back to stock.
2. Install Clockwork recovery
3. Install customer ROM again.
4. Enable lag fix.
5. Disable lag fix.
6. Flash back to stock.
7. Master clear
8. Install 2.2 again?
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Only if you have enough room on your external sd (micro sd plugged into the phone)
I don't currently have one installed.
It must be a file system issue. Is there anyway to rebuild the stock file system? Or is that supposed to happen when I flash back to stock?
By the way, thanks for your help on this.
gospeedgo said:
I don't currently have one installed.
It must be a file system issue. Is there anyway to rebuild the stock file system? Or is that supposed to happen when I flash back to stock?
By the way, thanks for your help on this.
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No prob, but here is the deal. This only works for external SD card in 2.2 2.1 didnt have this option at all. So unless you insert an external SD card it is not gonna work.
OK, now I'm the stupid one. I didn't even think of putting my SD card back in! I always take it out when I flash back to stock because the media scanner takes so long.
Anyway, I put it back in, now I can move to SD.
So, my next question is, where does it put it on that SD card? I looked, and I don't see anything other than my music.
gospeedgo said:
OK, now I'm the stupid one. I didn't even think of putting my SD card back in! I always take it out when I flash back to stock because the media scanner takes so long.
Anyway, I put it back in, now I can move to SD.
So, my next question is, where does it put it on that SD card? I looked, and I don't see anything other than my music.
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To tell the truth I dont remember really, I have not needed to move anything to my external sd in a long time, what are you using to look at your SD card?
Root explorer. It's not really that important, it's mostly just curiosity.
I have been having some issues, as outlined in my last thread that I haven't managed to solve.
Had more issues last night, so decided to unpartition card to see if that fixes it as that seems to be where it started, just wanting to check how to do this safely. Do I use a2sd to move apps and dalvik cache back to phone, back up apps then erase card using phone (will that get rid of partition?), then transfer the back up from before I partitioned back onto the card? Then to be safe go back to the Nandroid of before I partitioned? I will use it like that a few days, check it sorted the issue, then try partitioning again.
If that doesn't work I will reflash ROM.
Could someone please confirm that is how you safely un partition?
Thanks in advance
ETA: Sorry I didnt realise I hadn't put anything in the thread title and now its to late :/ hopefully somebody reads this anyway!
Hi guys.
I want to start from scratch regarding my internal SD card (not using external) because I have a lot of junk that just needs to be gone.
I'm running Synergy's latest nightly and am going to flash a Jelly Bean ROM (don't know which yet) right after wiping everything.
So my question is, what do I do to make sure everything is wiped, and my phone still boots? I'm kind of lost.
I usually use CWM to flash, so what do I press in order to do this?
Thanks a lot.
You have to format the internal card with a filw explorer or in a recovery
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ikr said:
You have to format the internal card with a filw explorer or in a recovery
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Understood, but what happens when I try to reboot back into the phone; will it boot normally?
I ditto this question. I'm also curious about formatting my internal card and starting from scratch. I know factory reset from cwm recovery doesn't do it. I'm afraid to just start doing things and bricking this thing. Even though I was told by my cousin who has flashed many phone its very hard to hard brick a Samsung.
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Blutonic said:
Hi guys.
I want to start from scratch regarding my internal SD card (not using external) because I have a lot of junk that just needs to be gone.
I'm running Synergy's latest nightly and am going to flash a Jelly Bean ROM (don't know which yet) right after wiping everything.
So my question is, what do I do to make sure everything is wiped, and my phone still boots? I'm kind of lost.
I usually use CWM to flash, so what do I press in order to do this?
Thanks a lot.
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section 6 of my guide :good:
Please forgive me but where is your guide?
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Blutonic said:
Understood, but what happens when I try to reboot back into the phone; will it boot normally?
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Yes it should boot fine. The sd just holds your junk and possible some config info for some apps.
piiman said:
Yes it should boot fine. The sd just holds your junk and possible some config info for some apps.
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Ok, I'm just going to boot into CWM, Reformat, and Reboot. Hopefully everything goes well.
I'll get back to this topic to tell you how it went.
Ok, reformatting from CWM, then rebooting worked perfectly!
Going on to JB now, thanks for the help everyone.
Uhhh....right-click + "delete" while connected to your computer. Or from settings.
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Blutonic said:
Ok, reformatting from CWM, then rebooting worked perfectly!
Going on to JB now, thanks for the help everyone.
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After reformatting, the rom was still installed right? but all your apps and clutter was gone?
Just curious cause I also did data/factory reset from cwm and all it did was delete the rom and apps but all the stuff left over from the apps and music/photos/videos were still there.
uf21 said:
After reformatting, the rom was still installed right? but all your apps and clutter was gone?
Just curious cause I also did data/factory reset from cwm and all it did was delete the rom and apps but all the stuff left over from the apps and music/photos/videos were still there.
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Hey buddy they're talking a little different then just data reset. To erase all that other stuff go into cwm under mounts and storage and click format internal SD card. The ROM will still work but it will erase everything on your internal memory so if you have pictures you want back then up
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kintwofan said:
Hey buddy they're talking a little different then just data reset. To erase all that other stuff go into cwm under mounts and storage and click format internal SD card. The ROM will still work but it will erase everything on your internal memory so if you have pictures you want back then up
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I thinks thats what I'm looking for. Last question, if I do that will my system settings stay, will I have to sign into everything again and will all my apps be gone?
uf21 said:
I thinks thats what I'm looking for. Last question, if I do that will my system settings stay, will I have to sign into everything again and will all my apps be gone?
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In all honesty I'm not sure if it will erase settings as well. I don't believe it will but some app settings are stored on the SD card so you may have to sign back into some things.
If you choose to factory reset at the same time then yes you will have to reset everything up.
One thing to keep in mind if you make your backups without selecting external SD card they will ask be erased so you will have no backups
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kintwofan said:
In all honesty I'm not sure if it will erase settings as well. I don't believe it will but some app settings are stored on the SD card so you may have to sign back into some things.
If you choose to factory reset at the same time then yes you will have to reset everything up.
One thing to keep in mind if you make your backups without selecting external SD card they will ask be erased so you will have no backups
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I've been asking around since yesterday and no one could give me a straight answer until now, so thanks for your help, much appreciated.
uf21 said:
I've been asking around since yesterday and no one could give me a straight answer until now, so thanks for your help, much appreciated.
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Glad I could help out!
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Glad I could help out!
If I helped you in some way.... pass on the favor and help the next person!
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Quick question, I just went into cwm recover then mounts and storage and the options are
Format /cache
Format /system
Format /data
Format /preload
Format /sdcard
Would sdcard be the internal sd card?
It sounds like that wipes everything (rom and all) and not just internal sd?
uf21 said:
Quick question, I just went into cwm recover then mounts and storage and the options are
Format /cache
Format /system
Format /data
Format /preload
Format /sdcard
Would sdcard be the internal sd card?
It sounds like that wipes everything (rom and all) and not just internal sd?
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You just want to wipe internal? if you want to be safe, take out your external sdcard, then do format /sdcard . This will wipe your internal sdcard.
I'm unable to make any Nandroid Backups on my i9500, running TWRP 2.7.0.0. Previously, I was able to make backups as well as restore them. But I've started having this problem since 15-20 days. I want to flash to a Custom ROM right now, but I can't because none of my older Nandroid backups are working, and when I try to make a new one, it says - Backup Complete, Failed. The same happens even when I enable compression. The other features are working fine, I'm able to flash ZIPs normally.
How can I get rid of this problem? Should I flash an older version of TWRP? If yes, how should I do it? Just flash it through recovery?
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I'm unable to make any Nandroid Backups on my i9500, running TWRP 2.7.0.0. Previously, I was able to make backups as well as restore them. But I've started having this problem since 15-20 days. I want to flash to a Custom ROM right now, but I can't because none of my older Nandroid backups are working, and when I try to make a new one, it says - Backup Complete, Failed. The same happens even when I enable compression. The other features are working fine, I'm able to flash ZIPs normally.
How can I get rid of this problem? Should I flash an older version of TWRP? If yes, how should I do it? Just flash it through recovery?
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Hey there..
This problem might occur if there is not enough space left in your SD card.
please make sure that there is enough space left on the external storage before making a backup..
cheers
Hi!
There seems to be a few threads on twrp here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9500-develop
I'm not sure which you flashed, but you could try a different version found in thread above....just follow the instructions in the thread. Or explain your issue in the thread you got yours from.
I see you have only 8 posts, and you need 10 under your belt to be allowed to post in the development section. So just browse around the i9500 section in general and q&a and make a few "useful" posts.
Here's the i9500 section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4
Good luck!
dagger said:
Hey there..
This problem might occur if there is not enough space left in your SD card.
please make sure that there is enough space left on the external storage before making a backup..
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I just recently formatted it, from the option available in settings.
So there's like 6-7 GBs free space. I can't backup to Internal Storage or to Ext SD Card.
I'll try downgrading TWRP and see if that works.
Problem solved
I successfully flashed CWM. You may mark this as Solved/Completed now.
Thank you so much for your help.