WM 6.5 for Treo Pro for the rest of us... - Palm Treo Pro ROM Development

I have had the SERO plan (free data) from Sprint for over 2 years, which I like, and a Treo 700wx, which I don't like. I am leaning toward getting the Treo Pro, but I need to know that I will be able to upgrade to WM 6.5, or otherwise I've had enough of the unfriendly, slow and buggy WM on my old phone.
Will I be able to install WM 6.5, if I get the Treo Pro? I don't care if it's official or not, as long as it works fine, and doesn't give me any more grief.
If this is possible, can someone please write out detailed instructions about how to get WM 6.5 onto the phone, assuming that they are dealing with a total idiot, as far as WM phones go?

You can't install 6.5 at the moment.
It's anyone's guess as to whether there will be an official upgrade. Palm appears to have forgotten about the Treo Pro, so it seems unlikely (although some say they've heard rumblings that Palm has been testing it).
An unofficial custom rom looks like it might be on the horizon. There's been a lot of work put into it over the past few months. I'd say this is more likely than an official update, although it's still not 100% guaranteed.

Do you think, there will be NO Treo Pro WM6.5 upgrade?
I hope, they will at least support us with this upgrade unless they have stopped working with windows mobile...

Plattfuss said:
Do you think, there will be NO Treo Pro WM6.5 upgrade?
I hope, they will at least support us with this upgrade unless they have stopped working with windows mobile...
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At least not an official one. There is now a custom ROM with WM 6.5 and 6.5.1 out there, so it is possible to get it to your TP... if it's CDMA. GSM is a no go still.
Cheers!

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Hello, I am one of the biggest noobs in here and I just got a treo pro off ebay from someone for 110....
It has win 6.5 on it and it took forever and a day to change over phones and everything with Sprint.
I am not sure if I like this or not.
I am so new to all of this, cant even sync the dang thing yet.
Help
I will ask the question in another thread just to be appropriate.

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Question about the forthcoming HTC Touch Pro 2 & Firestone

Hope this is the right place to ask this.
Will both these devices be running on WM 6.5 out of the box or just the Firestone?
I ask because I have seen conflicting reports on this.
I am told that even if the Touch Pro doesn't come with 6.5 it will be offered as an upgrade by HTC as soon as 6.5 is available?
I never got a Touch HD in the end or X1 because I saw 6.5 was on the way & thought I would wait for that & if I am going to get a HTC device I want to know 6.5 will be in the equation.
Your information is correct. If 6.5 comes out before the new phone, the phone will contain 6.5. If the new phone comes out first then it will contain 6.1 and an upgrade will be available.
While I have yet to see a definitive list, the general concensus is the phones that were released in the last year or so Raphael, Diamond , Blackstone, et.al, will have an upgrade to 6.5 available from HTC, the older Touchs, Kaiser, Titan Mogul, will not have 6.5 updates avaiable.
But around here does it really matter what HTC or the carriers choose to make available ?
denco7 said:
Your information is correct. If 6.5 comes out before the new phone, the phone will contain 6.5. If the new phone comes out first then it will contain 6.1 and an upgrade will be available.
While I have yet to see a definitive list, the general concensus is the phones that were released in the last year or so Raphael, Diamond , Blackstone, et.al, will have an upgrade to 6.5 available from HTC, the older Touchs, Kaiser, Titan Mogul, will not have 6.5 updates avaiable.
But around here does it really matter what HTC or the carriers choose to make available ?
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That's interesting to hear as I thought they weren't going to offer 6.5 for devices such as the Touch HD. Be interesting to see if 6.1 and 6.5 devices released in 2008/2009 will be able to be upgraded to WM 7.
While HTC's profits lie in selling new phones and there is no profit in supporting older phones, there is a certain PR standard that has to be maintained. I should think that to not offer an upgrade for a phone that was released less that a year ago ( Blackstone ) wouldn't sit well with many customers and potential buyers.
But as I said, around here it is a rather moot point as I was running a 6.1 rom well before 6.1 came out, and have been running 6.5 for over a month, well that is until M$ issued their cease and desist order, at which point I complied and immediately downgraded to 6.1.
denco7 said:
While HTC's profits lie in selling new phones and there is no profit in supporting older phones, there is a certain PR standard that has to be maintained. I should think that to not offer an upgrade for a phone that was released less that a year ago ( Blackstone ) wouldn't sit well with many customers and potential buyers.
But as I said, around here it is a rather moot point as I was running a 6.1 rom well before 6.1 came out, and have been running 6.5 for over a month, well that is until M$ issued their cease and desist order, at which point I complied and immediately downgraded to 6.1.
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We have all probable seen the pictures of how WM 6.5 differs as far as the UI is concerned by how different is it 'under-the-hood' so too speak?

so so so bored with the Treo Pro

REEEEALLLLLLLLLY bored with it...
Nobody wants to see this ****. Post this somewhere else.
mind your business noob....
This should not be posted in the upgrading section. Please don't clutter this forum with threads like this. They really don't contribute in any way!
I believe that a lot of people agree with you that it's a boring device when it comes to ROM's etc. On the other hand you can still tweak it a lot!
I use a TouchPro2 now but I just can't get rid of my Pro 'cause it's such a good device for me
Hope there will be some new life into this thread when the Pro get's released by other providers.
golfernutnflorida said:
mind your business noob....
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Still bored there princess?
I understand that this "Qualcomm" stuff not good/speedy as Cheetah (previous Treo 750)
Maybe?
acidhax said:
Still bored there princess?
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As a matter of fact yes, we have an unlocker and 3 roms to choose from, but all 3 are not working the way they should. We need more cooks and more testers before things get released that simply do no work.
why don't you just ditch the phone and get an htc hero when it comes out. that's what i am going to do, eventually (probably dec 15, my birthday, when i get $$$). the phone was once good but now obsolete. there are so much better phones than it coming out if not already out.
Bored with your Treo Pro?
Give it to me, i have a Tilt2 (Touch Pro 2) and I'm just as bored it not more. (Wow i been around since 2006 and this is my first post begging for a phone) Sad.
trade?
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro
mumboender said:
I will trade you for a used HTC fuze if you want...I am bored with it as well and am looking for something with a front facing keyboard...but its gotta be a gsm treo pro
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Damn,... I wish I could trade it with you,.. sadly mine is GSM subsidized.. so I can't get rid of it. Love my Treo Pro,.. but I'm as bored as anyone.. I carry it and my Touch Pro2 and I still can't get enough of the eye candy on Sense..
Wish someone brought Sense to a 320x320 device..
the treo pro is a much better phone over the Fuze or TP
I traded my TP for Treo Pro and... I never once after like 6 months thought about the TP. I did not miss a single thing about it.
Not so boring anymore--Try Androkkid and add programs
The windows today screen is boring but the Treo Pro can be updated with a launcher. Adrokkid gives you the android feel,is fully customizable and works ok on the 320x320 screen. Cab express 4.0 is a great program to update your Treo Pro. Lets you see utilities and more, see ratings and instant download. Battery usage can be limited by doing manual updates on email, weather and gps. Otherwise Treo is constantly checking same.
@Sagitario
I'm using Pointui with Pointsense theme. Search for 320x320 on Community section of website. www.pointiu.com
George
You can use a cooked rom on this device too

AT&T Upgrade to 6.5 for Fuze

WIth the Tilt 2 and WM 6.5 coming will the Fuze see an upgrade or will it be only for the Tilt 2?
Good question, but highly unlikely.
AT&T has already released a new rom for the Fuze with several fixes over 6 months ago. I'd be really amazed if they do offer a 6.5 rom for the Fuze. Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
rumor has it that they're not going to give the upgrade for fuze owners. You'll have to deal with the cooked roms, (which i think really rocks, especially NRG's rom). People don't like trying new things and it's also about the big change from 6.1 to 6.5 which require a slight learning curve. but if you're here, then you're willing to learn.. i hope.
Agreed, huge NRGrom fan here, the latest release (genesis) is really nice!
you'd be quite happy with it - there is not much to fear about cooking. So long as you can have activesync connected to your phone for 10 minutes without interruption for the hardspl and rom install, you're golden (translation, don't try with activesync 3.0 or something really old that may not be reliable)
I personally REALLY like the new start menu for windows 6.5 - especially on newer builds where you can click and hold to move around programs
You will definitely not regret installing a cooked rom (again, my personal vote for newbs goes for EnergyROM)
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
whyhon said:
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
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Does anybody know of a date yet?
Seeing as how 6.5 is not officially to be released until october 6'th when the windows marketplace goes live, we'll see how long after that so AT&T can 'customize' the experience / Butcher the hell out of the rom.
I have a good feeling as soon as 6.5 comes out we are going to see a LOT more people hate their oem rom's.
i really really doubt there will be a 6.5 upgrade. to get an official rom approved, it requires the check off of the manufacturer (htc) and carrier (att) and maybe microsoft, im not really sure about them and winmo licensing to devices. but it would be easier to only focus on the newest devices. if you really want 6.5 they would prefer you buy a new device with it. ive been running 6.5 on my fuze for forever. it rtm'd in may so thats the real "release date" of 6.5. you dont buy windows mobile so dont focus on dates. new builds come out everday since forever. itll be interesting to see what htc does with 6.5 cause the new builds are ugly. for some reason microsoft decided to "improve" the interface without consulting on htc's design brilliance but whatever. we will see.
Does anyone know if you can install a cooked rom using Vista or Windows 7? I don't have access to a WinXP box right now.
Thanks
of course you can. theres no real difference. i have both vista and 7 for cooking. just right click and click run as administrator.
Cassetti said:
...Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
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Really? Seriously? Granted, there are "under the hood" improvements but the UI is a bad joke.
How did it happen that MS can't even line up a grid of icons on a rectangular screen?
I'll tell you how. The artistiicly inclined design folks missed a meeting, and a geek with a slide rule explained how there would be more area for your fat thumb if icons were arranged in a "honycombed" grid.
This absurdity never got caught in time. Too late. Can't change it now. Wait for WM7.
Remember this whenever you look at your device.
Just my opinion. Doesn't matter. Some will be happy with whatever slop MS ships.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
hi,
recently one of my friend give me at&t fuze of following Specification
ROM=1.95.502.5 WWE
Radio=1.02.25.32
now need help to upgrade the rom and radio,
i tried latest TAEL rom but it is giving me error.
can u suggest me any idea...
thanks in advance..
suraj

When will sprint get Winmo 6.5?

Windows has already released phones with winmo 7 (the TG02 from toshiba?). My HTC touch pro 2 is still running winmo 6.1! When is sprint going to provide the update to 6.5, which by now is already outdated?
Is anyone else frustrated by this? Hasn't the hacking community already built up a 6.5 rom for the touch pro 2? Why can't sprint get with the program?
"The touchscreen interface should be slicker on the TG02, not just because of the improved touchscreen, but also because the TG02 runs the Windows 6.5.3 operating system, rather than the Windows 6.5 operating system."
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/02/toshiba-unveils-tg02-and-k01-mobile-phones-203779
Windows Phone 7 will be coming out late 2010, if at all this year.
If you really want windows 6.5 just use one of the cooked roms, they will probably be more suited towards your needs anyways.
im fustrated
i don't know why sprint hasn't got 6.5 already, like you said other companies have 6.5 and even windows 7.. im frustrated and willing to upgrade with a custom rom someone made, but i just dont want to because that might ruin my warranty..i think lol..
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i don't know why sprint hasn't got 6.5 already, like you said other companies have 6.5 and even windows 7.. im frustrated and willing to upgrade with a custom rom someone made, but i just dont want to because that might ruin my warranty..i think lol..
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technically it does...I waited for vzw 6.5 to see if it was any good...was less responsive than the original stock rom, so I tried mighty mikes and am really enjoying it.
EDIT: i tried giving the link for the Winmo 7 phone that I got my info from. Just google "engadget windows 7 hands on" and you'll find what I was referring to. I would post a link but I need to be verified first.
I got this new TP2 because of my original TP warranty (it was freezing so Sprint gave me a TP2 for FREE).
So I want to keep up this warranty so I can keep my total equipment protection and replace this one when it gets old.
But sprint is saying 6.5 will have all of these cool new personalization features that are specific for the TP2.
the suspense is killing me! Winmo 6.1 is such a drag...
Also, can these 6.5 ROMS have the new features that sprint is talking about for this phone?
Oh, and also I just want to say I LOVE THIS PHONE
redcannon said:
Also, can these 6.5 ROMS have the new features that sprint is talking about for this phone?
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Most likely one of the builds will have it. Check out the ppc forums for a consolidated CDMA app forum:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
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Most likely one of the builds will have it. Check out the ppc forums for a consolidated CDMA app forum:
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I appreciate the link but "flashing" a rom is, to me, a dark and mysterious process that I do not understand. Also, i cannot lose my warranty, it is the ticket to my next pocket pc.
I guess I just have to be patient...but I've been using windows for years so I'm used to that
redcannon said:
I appreciate the link but "flashing" a rom is, to me, a dark and mysterious process that I do not understand. Also, i cannot lose my warranty, it is the ticket to my next pocket pc.
I guess I just have to be patient...but I've been using windows for years so I'm used to that
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Honestly at first I was a little apprehensive because I had seen mention of bricking your phone. It is super easy though once you get into it. Just take the time to read the stickies and follow the steps. I haven't had to take my phone in for warranty yet though so I'm not sure how it will turn out in that aspect. If you are worried don't do it. A phone that works is better than paperweight.

Treo 750 users: "Which WM 6.5 rom is your choice, and why?"

Hello everybody;
i looked at the WM 6.5 roms at this topic but i have no idea that which one was the best and the most stable rom in here. All of them are updated long time ago (2009).
So please Treo 750 users tell me; "Which WM 6.5 rom is your choice, and why?"
Thanks for your advices...
you can try by yourself which is better
no one of the two roms is perfect,
i'm now using the newest one but it has some serious bugs as well
i'm using it since it's newer and have a newer version on winmo 6.5
I'm using MietasSR's rom at the moment, but will be switching back to 6.1 or dumping my Treo in favor of some Android flavor this week.
Both main WM6.5 ROMs (MietasSR's and Navendrob's) have serious deal breaking bugs in them. It's just a matter of what you can put up with.
I know several people have asked both of them to at least post their kitchens if they aren't going to finish the bug fixing work (despite promising they would), but both have disappeared.
Those of us that like the form factor of the Treo and want to keep using it would love to see ROM development continue, but realize that the Treo is long past its prime and well below the radar screen now so updates are unlikely. It's even worse when someone posts something that has potential to be good and then vanishes. I have been holding out hope for continued use of this device for way too long and now I am very close to just being done with it.
As seblog siad, there's really no point in getting responses to the question when it takes 10 minutes to swap them. Just see which one you like better and go with it.

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