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Hi,
first of all my search function isn t working! So sorry if this question has already been answered.
but are we able to get a flash light on the phone, maybe by just clipping it on, on the back and put a on/off button on the backcover?
Thanks in advance
Like this : thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/d518/?cpg=cj&ref=&CJURL=
But for iphone only.
the SGS doesn't need a flash for pictures at night time, just take the picture using the NIGHT mode of the camera
there are many samples in this forum, search for it
if you really want a good flash, get this instead
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26990
yes exactly
AllGamer said:
the SGS doesn't need a flash for pictures at night time, just take the picture using the NIGHT mode of the camera
there are many samples in this forum, search for it
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
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I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
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Flash has limited range. It cant take pictures of outdoor scenes at all. It wont make any difference. This is when sensor sensitivity trumps flash.
I would really have loved it if they included an LED flash, im pretty sure it wont increase the thickness, its quite useful as a torch
snapper.fishes said:
I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Night mode is not a replacement for having flash.
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Neither flash nor night mode are a replacement for having real light though. Flash does have it's uses, and so does Night mode. Flash does have some problems though at night and can lead to some of the worst pictures ever taken (someone took one in me in the night using a flash at night, and it seriously looked like I had crawled out of a petri dish earlier that morning. With Night mode though, getting sharp pictures can be painful (and it only works well in lessor light situations, unless you have a tripod).
That being said, I too would like to see cases released with a light integrated. Yes, I do have an LED torch already, but having something integrated with the phone would allow less messing around.
I want an LED on a sticker.
I mean, they make some pretty darn bright little party lights on pins & T-shirts, why not a whilte one that just lines up the button battery on one end, the switch to push in the middle, and the LED bulb on the other end, cover most or all of the parts in silicone with some adhesive on the flat side. Stick on some velcro and all that would have to be done is removal before it gets stuck to the phone to the vecro patch half of us have in our cars. Sell three for $25 and you'd be making $24 per sale, including shipping.
No, I can't find one. I've looked. I'm thinking about hacking up a light-up Led Zeppelin shirt, or more likely heading for Radio Shack and sticking the button battery contacts between the bulb contacts, taping it, and just sqeezing the thing when I want light.
Seriously, this absence of light is a bit ridiculous. It's so cheap, and they're charging us how much for molded plastic plus this? That and flashlights are all we get for choices?
I do love the light sensitivity of this camera, though. It might just work with a single bulb for those impossible times. It' sure doesn't need an explosion of light. It's the best I've ever had on a phone by a million times.
Edit: found this at DealExreme. Yet again for iPhone. I think I'll watch for this in micro USB.
Here's the sticky, except it points the wrong way.
Here's one I almost got excited about. Sold out.
Yep, shopping for i9000 accessories. This is how it is.
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I did some very weird reading in DIY flashlight forums. Learned some stuff. The $12 Proton Freedom keyring has a dimmer on it, and people swear by it. I have too much to keep track of; I have three copies of keys that I use, and two copies stashed for JIC. Too pricey.
So I settled for trying this, which has a nice flat back on the clip for sticking a magnet to, or adhering somewhere like your monitor; and this, but they only come is sets of 10 (most of which will be in stockings on Christmas eve/morning, about this time).
Janis said:
I want an LED on a sticker.
I mean, they make some pretty darn bright little party lights on pins & T-shirts, why not a whilte one that just lines up the button battery on one end, the switch to push in the middle, and the LED bulb on the other end, cover most or all of the parts in silicone with some adhesive on the flat side. Stick on some velcro and all that would have to be done is removal before it gets stuck to the phone to the vecro patch half of us have in our cars. Sell three for $25 and you'd be making $24 per sale, including shipping.
No, I can't find one. I've looked. I'm thinking about hacking up a light-up Led Zeppelin shirt, or more likely heading for Radio Shack and sticking the button battery contacts between the bulb contacts, taping it, and just sqeezing the thing when I want light.
Seriously, this absence of light is a bit ridiculous. It's so cheap, and they're charging us how much for molded plastic plus this? That and flashlights are all we get for choices?
I do love the light sensitivity of this camera, though. It might just work with a single bulb for those impossible times. It' sure doesn't need an explosion of light. It's the best I've ever had on a phone by a million times.
Edit: found this at DealExreme. Yet again for iPhone. I think I'll watch for this in micro USB.
Here's the sticky, except it points the wrong way.
Here's one I almost got excited about. Sold out.
Yep, shopping for i9000 accessories. This is how it is.
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I did some very weird reading in DIY flashlight forums. Learned some stuff. The $12 Proton Freedom keyring has a dimmer on it, and people swear by it. I have too much to keep track of; I have three copies of keys that I use, and two copies stashed for JIC. Too pricey.
So I settled for trying this, which has a nice flat back on the clip for sticking a magnet to, or adhering somewhere like your monitor; and this, but they only come is sets of 10 (most of which will be in stockings on Christmas eve/morning, about this time).
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Yo Janis,
Have you seen this?
http://www.globalsources.com/manufacturers/LED-Sticker.html
which one specifically?, you got too many listed.
most of those are for close range, it wont work for photos
Yeah night mode is really not that great, a lot of pictures are unusable depending on the circumstances.
the round one with 7 led lights
hiraj_panosian said:
the round one with 7 led lights
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that one is a sticker, it's not LED
LOL
and the one that is really a LED it uses 3 x AAA batteries, way to huge
i still prefer my solution better
You had me goin there for a minute! I think maybe that site did, too, when I was really shopping, but I looked at so much crap, staying up way too late, I don't remember. (unsturctured time without distraction for a mom is time well spent)
I think in order to provide decent brightness and useable battery life, they all have to be pretty bulky. I got key chain ones that don't stay on unless you sacrifice a fingernail that are reputed to be bright, unblemished and diffuse (the bulb rating actually doesn't tell the wole story, i guess), and if I really wanted to hot-glue it to my phone I suppose I could.
I really just want something for those relatively close up "Mom! Lookit this!" moments that I might otherwise miss. Most of my photos suck, anyway, so art photo (OK, non-silly photos) I leave up to the rest of the fam. I need practice finding shots with decent light, anyway, this'll definitely up my game a notch. IMHO, deciding what you want to do with the flash is probably more important than whether it comes integrated in a case or not.
I'm eager to see what comes of this iPhone no-flash standard. I hope it goes away as battery tech gets better, but in the mean time, it'll be interesting to watch.
And if you haven't checked out DealExtreme.... I had over $200 in my cart before I decided to weed. I haven't girl-shopped like that for ten years (divergent). I'm hooked!
just my thoughs for a flash on a phone...
Even with a canon 7D you will get terrible shots with a built-in flash. Its just not about the hardware but more about optics. To get a decent image you first need to move the flash away from the camera or at least point it into the ceiling or a white wall. Else it will look plain ugly no matter what. Every photographer knows this.
A xenon-flash on the phone will light up the close perimeter but will not create a good image. A led-light will be totaly useless, sure it might light up the object but colors, shadows and over all image quality will be terrible.
A fast sensor (high iso) will create noisy images. Even the 7d makes some noice, still this is a middle-end dedicated slr-camera. Dont expect a micro-small phone-sensor to produce anything good.
So... to make a decent photo with a phone: have good lightning conditions = outdoor, close to a window (preferably north side) or use a (or maybe even three) secondary light source (like a lamp).
An inbuilt flash/led on a camera can at best produce "working" images. Meaning you can actually see whats been photoed. For documentation. But for good photography forget about this.
I still miss a led on the sgs, but i would like it to be pointing strait up so i can use it as a flashlight. But the screen is rather bright anyway...
this was explained many many times, but some people still don't quite get it.
I'll suggest hobby photography lessons, then they will see the real difference.
a flash or LED on a phone, is mostly just used as a flash light
it has no real life effective value as a flash for a picture session.
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just my thoughs for a flash on a phone...
Even with a canon 7D you will get terrible shots with a built-in flash. Its just not about the hardware but more about optics. To get a decent image you first need to move the flash away from the camera or at least point it into the ceiling or a white wall. Else it will look plain ugly no matter what. Every photographer knows this.
A xenon-flash on the phone will light up the close perimeter but will not create a good image. A led-light will be totaly useless, sure it might light up the object but colors, shadows and over all image quality will be terrible.
A fast sensor (high iso) will create noisy images. Even the 7d makes some noice, still this is a middle-end dedicated slr-camera. Dont expect a micro-small phone-sensor to produce anything good.
So... to make a decent photo with a phone: have good lightning conditions = outdoor, close to a window (preferably north side) or use a (or maybe even three) secondary light source (like a lamp).
An inbuilt flash/led on a camera can at best produce "working" images. Meaning you can actually see whats been photoed. For documentation. But for good photography forget about this.
I still miss a led on the sgs, but i would like it to be pointing strait up so i can use it as a flashlight. But the screen is rather bright anyway...
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In the t-mobile vibrant section, someone pointed to an iphone case that had a built in led flash, lol.
I currently have SE W550i which has LED Flash. I have never paid attention to the flash while clicking photos with it but i EXTENSIVELY use it as a torch at various times and it is really helpful.
So Since now I plan to buy Galaxy S no flash is huge disappointment for me. Not because of pictures but I cant use the flash as a torch because there isnt any. I fail to understand why such an expensive phone doesnt have such a basic feature like this. Well thats another matter if you want to use such an expensive phone as a torch(!) but it still works damn good if it has one and sadly Galaxy S doesnt have any!
I wonder if these lights will work with 2 cr2032 batteries. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m748&item=380261264719&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D6208795471328440285
hi everyone,
this is my first post in the mytouch 4g slide forum. i had a g2 since the day after it came out and it died on me this weekend and apparently t-mobile isn't sending them out as replacements anymore and gave me a mytouch 4g slide instead. still trying to get used to all the senseified aspects, but so far i really liked it. can't complain about being bumped up to a dual core. and i like the keyboard better.
anyway, this post is about the camera. ever since this phone came out i've heard nothing but reviews and marketing about how its the best camera ever on a phone and how it can replace your point and shoot and how awesome it is. now don't get me wrong, this camera is crazy fast. when i push the shutter, it takes the picture, no lag at all, and that's pretty amazing. but picture quality on this thing (unless of course i'm doing something wrong) is pretty terrible. i'd go as far as to say it's not as good as my g2. if i hold the camera 10000% still, it's pretty nice but still grainy. this is with or without flash. at its best i've gotten a pic that is comparable to my g2's camera (which didn't get any any high marks when it came out).
so i'm wondering, could i be doing something wrong? is there a setting i'm not seeing? it defaulted to 8mp, which it's still on, but that shouldn't even affect picture quality anyway. i'm getting blurry and/or grainy pics. so far i've only taken pics indoors with just regular lighting, some with flash and some without. if you need i can post some examples later. would love to get some feedback here on what i might be doing wrong.
thanks everyone.
First things first - Welcome to the MT4GS forums, the doubleshot as it's otherwise known is a fantastic device. Some may call me obsessed with it but to me the doubleshot has earned every bit of the attention I give it.
Secondly - this is a camera on a cell phone - keep that in mind as you browse this post and the links to other camera threads here in the MT4GS forums i'll be including below.
I personally feel the camera on the device is fantastic. It is not going to be an equivalent to an 8MP stand-alone digital camera, it's not the same tech/hardware quality for obvious reasons. I do feel it's comparable though.
Aside from falling short on some manual settings, i've replaced my point and shoot digital camera with this device and don't feel that i've lost anything.
Here is the camera I have - an older 10MP Kodak:
http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/M1033_Digital_Camera/productID.145087200
Side-by-side quality comparisons of random pictures from that digital camera and the doubleshot have me preferring the doubleshot pictures almost every time - but I haven't actually sat down and snapped pictures specifically to compare the two. I could do that if anyone is interested and eventually will anyway even if people aren't.
The immediate capture mode of the camera on the doubleshot maybe makes it even in value for the manual settings I lost, but I did get into using the higher ISO exposures we don't have on the doubleshot - so maybe a slight pang of loss but i'll get over it. I mention it just to be accurate, but in my day to day I don't really think about it.
What I miss most about losing the higher ISO settings is taking pictures of the stars through my friends telescope when I have the chance to do so - I can still get pics through the telescope but not the same kind I could with those higher ISO settings. Then again - it is a cell phone we are talking about, lets not lose sight of that.
I use the camera a moderate amount overall I guess. Much more often then my dedicated digital camera because it's always with me, whereas the camera rarely was.
Took a lot of pictures around christmas, mostly of nieces and nephews and used photo apps to do fun things with them. The parents and grandparents of said kids were more then happy with the pictures, and it unquestioningly took better pictures then some of the digital cameras and all of the cell phone cameras, without exception.
(no, don't know what other cell phones were being used, some were not smart phones, and there was at least one iPhone 4S that got put to shame by the doubleshot. )
I've taken a bunch of pictures out in the woods, I like to wander in wooded areas and from time to time have played with the doubleshot camera while doing so. I've been happy with the results - could probably scrounge around on my computers and try to find some of them if you want.
Your issue with blurry or bad photos is not something i've had a problem with - but you aren't the first one to mention such an issue.
I've ended up with some blurry pictures due to autofocus on auto mode, but usually when i'm just snapping and not paying attention to what i'm doing. If i'm actually paying attention to taking pictures it's not a problem. Sometimes I have to wait for autofocus to make up it's mind if I don't tap a part of the screen to tell it where to look.
Going on that i'd say your phone probably isn't broken or damaged, but you just aren't familiar with using it yet and should experiment some. The more you use it the less likely you will be to end up where you are when you started this thread. It has some quirks to using it, and they aren't easy to articulate or communicate, you just gotta use it some to figure it out.
Go through all the menu settings for the doubleshot camera. Change them all. Try them out. Make sure you also go through the different mode settings for the camera and not just use the default auto.
Modes available:
1 - Auto,
2 - Sweepshot,
3 - Clearshot HDR,
4 - Burstshot,
5 - Night,
6 - Action,
7 - Macro,
8 - Portrait,
9 - Manual.
Make use of the different modes. If you just mess around with Auto, you are missing out and not really getting the use out of the camera that you could be.
Here are some pictures I took last night using just auto mode, attached to this post: (sorry it's long, but they are at the bottom of it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22011956&postcount=4
How do these compare to the pictures you started this thread about? Since you didn't post them this is purely for you to review and compare with.
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Here are some pictures I tool with the doubleshot last night using Macro Mode (for closeups), attached to this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22013716&postcount=5
EDIT: These two posts I linked to of pictures I took were at the lowest resolution (640x480) with widescreen un-checked. I did that so I could just upload to the forums without having to shrink it in photoshop first - so those pics are straight off the doubleshot.
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...and here is a thread discussing the camera with pics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231050
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More camera information, some comparison shots and someone who has a problem with image quality as you've posed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242751
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Maybe this will help also, short thread on zoom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231770
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Here is a short thread discussing the camera/camcorder: (5 posts short)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308620
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This thread (probably shouldn't even bring it up) is mostly just an argument about the camera on the device, but there is some good information and points raised if you have the patience to sift through all the crap in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250092
It also has a handful of off-site links that you may find useful. It's a shame that thread has so much useless bickering, because it's got some good info.
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Here is some more information on the "zero lag shutter" which is/was a forerunner of ICS capability:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329960
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If you start having issues with green lines or something like that on the screen/pictures with the camera, check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194463
... and another thread about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347356 ( with pics )
I, and most of us, have not had this issue. More then one person has, and it's useful to link to that thread here in case anyone else does so they can get more information about it.
(It's basically a non issue and quick fix for anyone who's had the problem, at least as far as I know.)
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Here is a thread someone was talking about having odd black lines framing video and one person mentioned it happening once on a picture they took. Never really went anywhere so no clue what the problem was or if it got resolved - but here ya go anyways in case it becomes relevant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334559
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So that's most of what I can remember off the top of my head, but i'm sure I missed a few. Anything in the last 3 weeks or so probably flew under my radar, but otherwise that should be most of what was discussed about the camera here in the MT4GS forums.
So, looks like you got a little reading and experimenting ahead of you, but hopefully this will help you work with your camera a little better and get the most out of this really cool piece of tech in your hands.
If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask, and see if you can post some of the pictures so I or others can see what you mean about blurry pics. The first two posts I linked to before linking all the threads are pictures I posted last night taken with the doubleshot I got through T-Mobile back in August, i've been the only owner and it was never serviced or warrantied - I love the camera on it.
Given that the marketing strategy behind this device was the camera, I can see how people would expect more from it then it can give - kinda over-hyped, ya know?
Fact is, the sensors for the camera are nowhere near the size of the sensors in a standalone point & shoot device dedicated to only taking pictures. There just isn't enough room to make it happen and fit everything else in the device.
The capture ability of the device is on par with roughly an 8MP dedicated digital camera, and it pretty amazing considering how small it is and that it's a phone first, camera second, and i'm more then happy with it's performance.
I'd love to see you get straightened out and get it working well, so give a shout out and maybe post some pictures when you start really having fun with it.
Can't wait to see what you come up with
My camera takes gorgeous photos almost all the time, so that is pretty strange. Are you sure you are in the right mode? Put it on the automatic mode, and try taking some pics. One time I left the camera in night mode, and forgot to turn it back. All my photos were coming out grainy and blurry, until I realized that it was in night mode. I switched it back to automatic, and all was well.
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Macro mode is my favorite. There is a thread at Androidforums.com where people have posted pictures taken with this phone. When I get time I will post some of my pics.
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wow thanks! yea looks like i have plenty of reading to do. i haven't even had the thing a full 24 hours yet, so i'm sure i'll figure out how to make the most of it. i didn't REALLY expect it to replace a real camera (figured that was all marketing speak), but i just expect pics at least as good as my g2, and so far i haven't seen any as good as what i got with that. and it would be nice to have a camera that takes pics as nice as the iPh... not gonna say it, i don't want to get booted out of here haha. but yea. i'll report back after a week or so and let you guys know how i'm doing. loving the dual core. you can really tell the difference in getting in and out of apps.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/239266-2/android_camera_shootout_13_phones_put_to_the_test.html
This link shows our camera was the best Android camera.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/242063/iphone_4s_review_atandt_a_solid_update.html
This link shows that it is better than the Iphone camera.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/239266-2/android_camera_shootout_13_phones_put_to_the_test.html
This link shows our camera was the best Android camera.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/242063/iphone_4s_review_atandt_a_solid_update.html
This link shows that it is better than the Iphone camera.
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wow that's crazy. yea like i said, i'm gonna have to give it a week, mess with it, try the different camera modes out. but in auto in my first 24hours the pics definitely weren't as good as my g2 and DEFINITELY not as good as pics i've seen off an iphone4... so that's crazy. can't wait to see what this thing can do once i really get the hang of it. must just need to get off of auto.
Here are some pics I took with the camera on the doubleshot.
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As you can see, it takes great pics pretty regularly.
those are some great pics yellowjacket...you got a good eye.
the 4th pic from the bottom or 3rd from the top is now my current wallpaper
wow yellowjacket. those are great.
Thanks, I guess you can tell I like using the macro setting lol.
Those are some nice pictures - thank you for sharing them. You have a good camera eye, and also managed to illustrate a good measure of the range of capture of the device.
Seeing is believing, so it's one thing to explain it, but you said more with those pictures then I did in response to the OP's question.
That mountain shot right above the grasshopper - I drove most of the way across the country, maybe around a decade ago and had a 2MP digital camera with me. I remembered being in Colorado and just trying to take in the mountains - it's not like what we have back east with the Appalachians, but again, seeing is believing and I just wanted to see what the difference was people were always saying.
I remember trying to capture it on the camera, but when all was said and done the tech just wasn't ready for that yet. I decided on the spot right then that digital cameras were going to destroy film for casual use. I tallied up how much it would have cost me in film from the store to do what I did, and came in well over $1000 if I couldn't download the camera to my laptop whenever I wanted.
Took me back when I saw it - I got a lot of perspective in the most literal sense on that trip and it was fun to recall a tech epiphany. Thanks!
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...and it would be nice to have a camera that takes pics as nice as the iPh... not gonna say it, i don't want to get booted out of here haha. ...
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Well, if you didn't bring it up you wouldn't be starting to gether information about which one is better and why. Mentioning it got a pointer from someone else on the board towards information to address that so it was worth saying.
I'd rather see someone with a device in their hand that does what they want, whatever that ends up being, and the more you know about them the more likely you get what you need, instead of what someone else thinks you need.
Obviously if you wanted to learn more about that one specifically there are other places to go for that, but information comparing the doubleshot to something else belongs floating around here.
The other day I was using my friends iphone 4. (Not the 4s)
I was taking a picture of a stack of red plastic party cups across the room with both phones, while the phones were held against the arm of the couch I was sitting on.
The stack was actually showing up blurry on the mt4gs(not countable)
On the iphone 4 the stack was sharper, and I was actually able to count how many were there.
I would say the iphone 4 had sharper photos at this 20-25 foot range, however my phone was able to capture the real color of the room. It matched exactly what I saw with my naked eye and the iphones colors were way off.
I dunno if I should blame the software used for focusing our camera, or if the iphones 5mp camera is actually better for sharpness.
One tip I would tell you is to disable widescreen mode, it will give you a higher resolution than 8mp wide.
Also, yes. Macro mode is pro.
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Here's some of my pictures, my parrot is in macro mode, and the fake beach scene is auto mode, 5 feet away, with flash on.
I used that photo for my brothers wedding shower invitation
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just started snapping a few shots with widescreen turned off and macro turned on (even though i'm shooting a mix of close and far shots) and its already making a world of difference. i think that widescreen thing is the real culprit. gonna try it on auto without widescreen next to see if i'm right. but yea i think in making your pics widescreen its definitely reducing the clarity and sharpness of the shots. the first few shots i've taken with widescreen off are really nice. i'll probably post some pics later.
I just got my Z5 Compact today and obviously I tested the camera out ASAP. I can't lie... It kind of bothers me and to me it's quite obvious. It's right in the top left corner but it's quite strong. I got it from Amazon, should I ask for a replacement or should I send it to Sony for a repair? I'm from the UK. I've attached the photo below:
Please take a pic of a book or some normal object. It's already been explained... monitors can cause distorted pics.
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Please take a pic of a book or some normal object. It's already been explained... monitors can cause distorted pics.
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My bad. Here is two pics:
Let me know if I should retake them.
I can see some corner blurriness on the top left and the bottom left. I'm not sure it really bothers me though.
Should I return and get a brand new device or should I try and get Sony to repair it?
Could you rotate the camera 180 degrees and take the same pics again. That should verify it.
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Could you rotate the camera 180 degrees and take the same pics again. That should verify it.
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The way i see it, it's not a big problem. It's a common wide lens issue. If i'm on your position, i'll just keep the phone as it is. others result might be sharp from edge to edge, but it is really a narrow lens.
it seems you have a problem, your photos give an idea that there is a displacement of elements of the camera module, because the right side is blurred little less than it should be, and the left side is blurred more than it should be. I, I think almost perfectly semetrichno blurry right and left, later lay out a photo, and you can put the photo Made in so: put your phone camera at the table, or close the lens and take a picture in auto mode, photos need to do so that you can see the blue noise, it is a hypothesis, where it has been, and I think this can be judged from the defect. Please upload pictures, I have to see it, it can give more understanding of the problem for me, for you and for all.
To be able to detect the blurr properly, you need to have your phone leveled properly when taking the picture, for example in most of your pictures you take them from a weird angle, like from up to down, or from down to up, you need to take the photo exactly in the front leveled to the same angle as the monitor/book or whatever.
I hope you know what i mean.
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Could you rotate the camera 180 degrees and take the same pics again. That should verify it.
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No problem. "DSC_0377" is the rotated picture. Thank you for helping me with this issue.
hansip87 said:
The way i see it, it's not a big problem. It's a common wide lens issue. If i'm on your position, i'll just keep the phone as it is. others result might be sharp from edge to edge, but it is really a narrow lens.
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I'm not sure it really bothers me, I will only notice it when I look for it and sometimes it doesn't look as severe as other pictures. Also by looking at the camera lens it DOES seem pretty much straight. I probably will not go through the hassle of returning/repairing. Maybe I will try to get it repaired near the end of it's warranty (a year in the UK I think).
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it seems you have a problem, your photos give an idea that there is a displacement of elements of the camera module, because the right side is blurred little less than it should be, and the left side is blurred more than it should be. I, I think almost perfectly semetrichno blurry right and left, later lay out a photo, and you can put the photo Made in so: put your phone camera at the table, or close the lens and take a picture in auto mode, photos need to do so that you can see the blue noise, it is a hypothesis, where it has been, and I think this can be judged from the defect. Please upload pictures, I have to see it, it can give more understanding of the problem for me, for you and for all.
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No worries, I don't think I understood 100% what you said but I put the phone face down on my table and took a picture. There's more light coming from the bottom left but I think that is where the flash is located. If there are any other tests I can conduct for the community please let me know :good:
Pictures:
(1st one - "DSC_0375" is taken normally)
(2nd one - "DSC_0377" is taken upside down)
(3rd one - "DSC_0376" is the one requested by vyshgorado)
Thank you guys for helping a guy out!
EDIT: I'm not sure why the first picture is upside down... on my desktop it is the correct way up.
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To be able to detect the blurr properly, you need to have your phone leveled properly when taking the picture, for example in most of your pictures you take them from a weird angle, like from up to down, or from down to up, you need to take the photo exactly in the front leveled to the same angle as the monitor/book or whatever.
I hope you know what i mean.
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Ah yeah I think I know what you mean. Basically have the phone level? If the above photos are not good enough then I'll retake them, thank you for the advice though.
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It's not something that would necessarily bother me but it's clearly annoying you. I'd take it to a Sony store.
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Ah yeah I think I know what you mean. Basically have the phone level? If the above photos are not good enough then I'll retake them, thank you for the advice though.
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I took a look at both pics, and there is a bit of corner blurring in both. But I can't say if that's actually a lens problem or just do wind, lighting conditions, hand movement, etc. Normally, the problem shows up only on one side, so when the phone is rotated, the blurring should have followed. It doesn't look like that is what is happening here.
Okay, so I need you to do another, more conclusive, test. Take a pic indoors, where you have good lighting. Set the camera on a stand/mount/wall - something that will hold it steady (no hand-held pics, please), and use the self-timer, so you don't have to physically touch the phone. Then take the same pic using the timer, rotating it 180 degrees.
Basically, I need a couple of comparison pics where I can rule out any other external factors. Take a pic of some objects at, say, 2m to 4m away (or 5 to 10 ft). Blank wall is no good, as there isn't any details to see blurring. If you have time, take a few sets of pics of different objects/background. Makes it a bit easier to judge with more data.
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I can't see any blur on your photos lol.
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I took a look at both pics, and there is a bit of corner blurring in both. But I can't say if that's actually a lens problem or just do wind, lighting conditions, hand movement, etc. Normally, the problem shows up only on one side, so when the phone is rotated, the blurring should have followed. It doesn't look like that is what is happening here.
Okay, so I need you to do another, more conclusive, test. Take a pic indoors, where you have good lighting. Set the camera on a stand/mount/wall - something that will hold it steady (no hand-held pics, please), and use the self-timer, so you don't have to physically touch the phone. Then take the same pic using the timer, rotating it 180 degrees.
Basically, I need a couple of comparison pics where I can rule out any other external factors. Take a pic of some objects at, say, 2m to 4m away (or 5 to 10 ft). Blank wall is no good, as there isn't any details to see blurring. If you have time, take a few sets of pics of different objects/background. Makes it a bit easier to judge with more data.
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Cool, sorry I've been a bit busy, it's probably going to be impossible for me to do this in natural sunlight as by the time I leave work it's already dark!
joe_dude said:
I took a look at both pics, and there is a bit of corner blurring in both. But I can't say if that's actually a lens problem or just do wind, lighting conditions, hand movement, etc. Normally, the problem shows up only on one side, so when the phone is rotated, the blurring should have followed. It doesn't look like that is what is happening here.
Okay, so I need you to do another, more conclusive, test. Take a pic indoors, where you have good lighting. Set the camera on a stand/mount/wall - something that will hold it steady (no hand-held pics, please), and use the self-timer, so you don't have to physically touch the phone. Then take the same pic using the timer, rotating it 180 degrees.
Basically, I need a couple of comparison pics where I can rule out any other external factors. Take a pic of some objects at, say, 2m to 4m away (or 5 to 10 ft). Blank wall is no good, as there isn't any details to see blurring. If you have time, take a few sets of pics of different objects/background. Makes it a bit easier to judge with more data.
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Hi there, ur advice is apreciated, but dont u think that any fone sitting on a stand with a superior lighting conditions will get the pic 100% right ?
In my case m not having any distortion but rather lots of blurr, and i think the reason for this is bcuz once u snap the pic it takes abt 1 sec to 1.5 sec to fully take the pic.
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I can't see any blur on your photos lol.
Cool, sorry I've been a bit busy, it's probably going to be impossible for me to do this in natural sunlight as by the time I leave work it's already dark!
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you are blind then. the first have blur at left and the second is with phone rotated with blur at right. is pretty visible.
Sh4rkill3r said:
you are blind then. the first have blur at left and the second is with phone rotated with blur at right. is pretty visible.
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Woah, calm down bre.
Ok here are some pics
Ok, thought I'd upload some photos.
I'm not a pro
Just an average joe.
They were all done with superior auto.
I don't think I have the blurring issue due to the misaligned lens.
Low light performance is an absolute abomination though (I don't have any because I delete them) Does anyone want to share camera settings with me that allows for decent low light performace?
Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
I find it utterly stupid the way you swipe is so closely similar to either brings you from Auto to Pro or bring up Selfie mode.
It is almost equally frustrating to try and focus a subject in Auto Camera only to toggle Brightness slider, but that's another subject…
The Phone Company said:
As a professional Photographer
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
Are you really not able to swipe sideways without swiping up or down?
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This isn't a debate.....
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LoL :laugh: some ppl just have to go on like that instead of just saying nothing if they can't help.
Maybe something in ADB shell can help.
I don't think you can turn it off. You may have to install another camera app and use it with your phone rather than using the default camera.
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I stumbled across this site also looking to disable selfie mode. I DESPISE it and it's always getting in my way. To the idiots responding negatively, those are the douche bags taking pictures of themselves.
Re: to the guy condescendingly questioning why somebody would not use an actual dedicated camera. You may not one depending on what your photograhing. Often times you can get equally good results with lighting and a newer model cell phone in pro-mode. I personally have a decent DSLR and always use my phone out of pure convenience. Though with that said, if i was a photographer working with clients, i would never show up with only a cell phone.
If some Samsung suits ever read this, selfie mode sucks and is one of the most ridiculous and annoying features i have ever seen on a phone.
I fully agree that this is an annoyance, along with the brightness slider getting in the way when attempting to focus in that area of the screen. And the flash popout menu should simply be a toggle button in my view.
That said, there may be a couple of uses for these sticks that some people use to facilitate their grandstanding. I better not get into that, though.
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Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
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in short, yes. you can disable the FFC, but it wont help. Matter of fact itll probably mess everything up worse than you think. In order to disable it, youd have to mess with the kernel, as there is no toggle for the FFC. In addition, the app itself will always look for the FFC and offer you its respective options from within the app such as it being in the list of camera modes, which sounds like your ACTUAL problem. So, the long answer is no, not really. Not with the stock camera app anyways
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion.
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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i cant begin to describe how incorrect this is. this is the internet, if you ask a question on it, youll perhaps get a barrage of answers, some of them you might find useful, others not, but you dont get to decide what is a debate and what isnt. If youre not a moderator of this forum and no wrongdoings have occurred, the "debate" will be allowed.
btw, to answer your question, reassign the bixby button to launch the camera. My S9 launches the camera on bixby press and is ready to take a picture in a second
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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to quote yourself from your previous post...............
"Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion."
you spoke of hardware in that post and preparedness in this last one. because theyre the exact same thing. "I know, right? its crazy"
of course it depends on you, thats the point
also, not everyone who owns a DSLR, P&S, film cam etc etc etc has them out while a moment you want to get a pic of occurs, what do you reach for? the moment is obviously not going to last long and you have your phone and a DSLR. You just had your DSLR out and taking pics of far away buildings, so you have a 70/200 mm lens on it and the exposure is long for the same reason. Oh, forgot to mention that the thing youre wanting to take a pic of is 15 ft from you and moving. Now what? Your phone is still just a phone? and i should have been "prepared" for this somehow?
oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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You got me man. Boy do I feel sheepish. Troll on trollboy
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
Shoumard said:
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
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might be best putting a piece of tape over the aperture. youll likely need root to do this, but by now im betting that someone made a magisk module to disable the cameras. If youre still wanting to do this, id look at magisk nowadays. in yesteryear, it was a very specific thing, but nowadays i bet something thatll get ya where you need to be is out there. i just dont mess with root enough anymore to be knowledgeable about it.
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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I discovered this problem whenever I try to close the camera app by swiping up--forgetting that the phone has different gestures than my old phone. I'm not sure why there is such an urgent need for a selfie, such that it has it's own gesture. Many people put tape over the selfie camera, so being able to disable it makes more sense than giving it its own gesture.
BTW, not to fan the flames, but the phone makers go through a lot of effort to market their phone cameras as high enough quality to be used by pros, so I'm not sure what prompted 'his' lecture about when to use a phone camera and when not to use a phone camera.
Is it possible to set the camera at 90 degrees, perpendicular to the phone body, and use it as a portrait mode kickstand? I doubt it would balance in landscape but in portrait it would make reading while the phone lies on a table much easier. Does the camera have an API so developers could write and app/widget to do this?
Placing the camera (opened half out) as a kickstand seems like a wonderful way to cause unnecessary stress on the two hinges on which the camera rotates, thus drastically reducing the life of the camera opening mechanism and the phone. Bravo for such ingenious suggestions, though....I doubt anyone will be foolish enough to use the camera as a kickstand.
Edit. This idea deserves a Darwin Award!
Cookie Ninja said:
Placing the camera (opened half out) as a kickstand seems like a wonderful way to cause unnecessary stress on the two hinges on which the camera rotates, thus drastically reducing the life of the camera opening mechanism and the phone. Bravo for such ingenious suggestions, though....I doubt anyone will be foolish enough to use the camera as a kickstand.
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If the camera hinges can handle 100,000 openings they can handle 100 grams of weight from holding half the phone up.
I saw a video where the phone was balanced on the camera module. I suppose it would work and maybe survive in OK condition. However, whenever something is used in a manner that it was not specifically designed for.... well....it could cause problems over time. YMMV
When outside of the camera-app or quick-gallery, the camera pulls itself back.
I'm sure there are some hacks to be done / work-arounds to have it open at any given time.. but yeah, wouldnt use it like that.
Asus actually has a kick-stand case for this phone.. although it seems a bit bulky.
https://www.asus.com/Phone-Accessories/ZenFone-6-Stand-Case-ZS630KL/