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I have been trying to install the official WM6 update to my treo 750. It fails to connect to my XP Pro 64 bit. It syncs fine, just won't run after the PayldMatchdll gets installed to the phone. It fails after 3/4 of the way done when connected to my Vista laptop. It seems to sync fine on the laptop as well. When I try to use the SD Updater, it fails when it gets to the OS, according to the screen on the phone. This is the last screen I get on the SD Updater:
00038005
CHEEIMG.nbh - FAIL
SPLASH1 - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
GSM - OK
MicroP - OK
EXTROM - OK
OS -
Update Terminate
UPDATE FAIL
Why isn't the os installing? what would make it hang? So far my phone hasn't been bricked, i can go back to WM5 with the recovery tool or the WM5 ROM I downloaded from here for insurance purposes. What are the IPL\SPL numbers I see in some people's sigs and to what advantage is SuperCID? I have read a great many of the forums and postings and I am trying to digest all the information I am receiving here. Thank you for any help.

Your SD card needs to be formatted to fat 32 for that install to work
I think there is a vista issue and you need a fix for it.
xp works fine

Sorry, forgot to mention that the card is actually a micro SD in a mini SD adapter and is in fact already fat32 formatted
Edit: This is a refurbished phone bought from AT&T in late August or September.

it may be the fact you are running the updater on vista

Upgrade from Flash Card

Hi,
This is my first post and I would be most grateful for a little advice. I have a XDA Exec that suffered a broken USB socket, since I replaced this, I cannot connect to Activesync, just shows as unknown device. Question is, is there a WM6 rom upgrade with voip that can be done from the flash card, or is this a stupid question and USB the only way. Any info would be very welcome.
Thank you

grandalf said:
Hi,
This is my first post and I would be most grateful for a little advice. I have a XDA Exec that suffered a broken USB socket, since I replaced this, I cannot connect to Activesync, just shows as unknown device. Question is, is there a WM6 rom upgrade with voip that can be done from the flash card, or is this a stupid question and USB the only way. Any info would be very welcome.
Thank you
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it is possible but you need access to another universal
1) Flash the ROM you want on the other universal (unless it is already on there)
2) Using Mtty, as Described in the HTC Universal Service Manual, Backup the CE section of the ROM of this device to a freshly formatted SD card (I use a 256mb card, experiment for others)
3) Put your Universal into bootloader mode and then insert the SD card conatining the backup image.
4) Follow the on-sreen instructions to flash it to your device
5) Hard Reset

Thats good advice, I will try and borrow another one, much appreciated.

Sorry because i post here, but i have the same problem with the prophet.
Your solution can work for it right?

I am testing the 5.2.1933 now and it has the VoIP thing
If you want...

Midget_1990 said:
it is possible but you need access to another universal
1) Flash the ROM you want on the other universal (unless it is already on there)
2) Using Mtty, as Described in the HTC Universal Service Manual, Backup the CE section of the ROM of this device to a freshly formatted SD card (I use a 256mb card, experiment for others)
3) Put your Universal into bootloader mode and then insert the SD card conatining the backup image.
4) Follow the on-sreen instructions to flash it to your device
5) Hard Reset
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I have the same problem as Grandalf, the worst is hard to find another Universal ppc.
Is there any other way, like the other ppc phones that can flash the rom by SD card ?

unapproachable2kx said:
I am testing the 5.2.1933 now and it has the VoIP thing
If you want...
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Hi,
I'm also looking for a back-up image too! Can you make one of the latest WM6.1 version ROM? Like this version: [UPDATE: Ranju's - v7.1] WM6.1 Pro - 5.2.19188 (Build 19188.1.0.0)
Thanks!

Flash from SD without 2nd device
Technically it's actually feasible to flash the ROM from storage card WITHOUT having 2nd device or backup image.
I'm sure it should work the way I'm thinking but it has to be tested before end-user flashing. I may write a how-to if I have some time......some day.
Cheers

ranju said:
Technically it's actually feasible to flash the ROM from storage card WITHOUT having 2nd device or backup image.
I'm sure it should work the way I'm thinking but it has to be tested before end-user flashing. I may write a how-to if I have some time......some day.
Cheers
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I have a qtek 2020 (xda 2) still not been upgraded yet as i have just purchased it but i am to test an SD Card rom update on my device while i wait for my usb cable to come.I have a rapidshare account if this is useful.

hagisbasheruk said:
I have a qtek 2020 (xda 2) still not been upgraded yet as i have just purchased it but i am to test an SD Card rom update on my device while i wait for my usb cable to come.I have a rapidshare account if this is useful.
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it's for uni (only)

Midget_1990 said:
2) Using Mtty, as Described in the HTC Universal Service Manual, Backup the CE section of the ROM of this device to a freshly formatted SD card (I use a 256mb card, experiment for others)
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I've uploaded everything from the device to an SD card now and it should work, as I get the screen telling me to press power to flash.
Unfortunately the card is not formatted in a "proper way", meaning the Uni and windows both see it as unformatted.
Is there a solution to make a sector based copy of the card, so I could provide its content for those people with broken USB connectors?

i would also be very interested in this. i dropped my uni a few months back with the cable plugged in and it smashed the usb port on the uni. would like to flash new rom to it via sd. unfortunately, in australia, this device is very rare. i have never met any1 else with one, so getting one is impossible.
if there is any other way to do this, i would greatly appreciate it.
thanx

Ubuntu ROM Flashing

Hi, guys, just wanted to ask it it possible to flash a ROM using Ubuntu (or in that case any other distro of Linux) or do you Need ActiveSync for that ?

If you havent got MS on your pc, then the best thing you can do is flash from memory card.

lipa47 said:
If you havent got MS on your pc, then the best thing you can do is flash from memory card.
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then that's what I'll do
Thanks, Lipa!

you can flash from sd...simply rename the file ...nbh in kaisimg.ngh, put on sd and than hard reset

i just stumbled across this thread while looking for a solution to this problem. i am currently transfering everything over from my windows vista to my ubuntu so that i can eventually delete the entire windows partition. however, i do not have an sd card, so does anyone know a way to do this without one?

Windows computer or SD card.
You can get an SD card for like $20 at radioshack.
Just make sure to format it to FAT32 before you kill windows, else the bootloader on the phone won't read the image.
Edit:
http://shop.kingston.com/PartsInfo.asp?ktcpartno=SDC/2GB&promo=XD07PH
ten bux.

opgadgets said:
i just stumbled across this thread while looking for a solution to this problem. i am currently transfering everything over from my windows vista to my ubuntu so that i can eventually delete the entire windows partition. however, i do not have an sd card, so does anyone know a way to do this without one?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762

i have ubuntu and i flash using this app, works perfectly cause i used to flash with the sdcard but some of the newer cooked roms wont flash thru the sdcard. The app is very simple and self explanitory, you just have to put in bootloader mode (hold cam+power while softreseting) then plug it in when you get to the 3color screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762

thanks guys

severely frustrated and in desperate need of help!!

i've been trying to update my tilt's rom and I don't know what im doin wrong. i've tried flashing mbarvian's solace v 1.5 rom and revrom v8 (sorry I can't remember who cooked the rom) and neither is working.
i've followed every step in the sticky for noobs like me. but when I get to step 3, which is flashing hardspl, I get lost. I moved the jumpspl files to my phone and ran jumpspl 1.93, since 1.53 seems to do nothing. it goes into bootloader, I disconnect usb, reconnect it, and try to run kaisercustomruu so I can flash hardspl 3.29. but when I try to run kaisercustomruu it just shuts down my computer. I don't know whts going on. it seems like im the only one running into this problem. i've spent the past 3 days searching the forums for a solution or reason why kaisercustomruu shuts down my comp and I can't find anything.
when I downloaded mbarvians solace rom there was another update utility that was included in the fil so I ran that. it worked, I clicked all necessary boxes, and the update initialized. but it just stays at 0 percent, and eventually gives me error 262 "update utility error" or something like that.
I tried restarting my comp and even hard reset my device. nothing is working.
im currently running the HTC windows 6.1 rom (the one straight off the site) and have hardspl 3.56.
the reason im trying to go to hardspl 3.29 is because mbarvian and the majority of people on his thread that had succes with his rom are running 3.29.
PLEASE HELP!!!

Well, you can't flash custom ROM's till you HardSPL your Tilt/Kaiser.
I noticed you didn't mention anything about disableling USB Connections in ACtive Sync/WMDC. Did you do that?
Also, kaisercustomruu is generic. Try copying the one from the ROM dl into the HardSPL dl folder. Another suggestion is do a search for flashing hardspl from sd card.

Why not use the sticky and then ask in the relevant thread? "The Sticky"
Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs) Read, Read & Read again, take in small steps & follow the directions to a T

stylez said:
Why not use the sticky and then ask in the relevant thread? "The Sticky"
Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs) Read, Read & Read again, take in small steps & follow the directions to a T
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You will definitely get more help in that thread. But you already have hardspl, so read the part about flashing cmonex's 3.29 from your SD card, that looks like that will solve your problems.

denco7 said:
You will definitely get more help in that thread. But you already have hardspl, so read the part about flashing cmonex's 3.29 from your SD card, that looks like that will solve your problems.
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I was going to agree with this, but then I read the flashing guide, and it says flashing from the SD card only works if you're upgrading. From the sounds of it, he doesn't have HardSPL on his phone, otherwise the cooked ROMs would flash.
To the OP, I would try another KaiserCustomRUU.exe. Just copy it from one of the custom ROMs you've downloaded and paste it into the folder you have HardSPL in. Be sure to delete the one that came with HardSPL first. If that doesn't work, maybe you could try a different computer? I don't think you need an ActiveSync connection to flash since JumpSPL puts the phone into flash mode. (Someone correct me on this if I'm wrong.) Just download HardSPL, extract, run JumpSPL, plug your phone in, and run KaiserCustomRUU.exe. It should flash!

I do have hardspl installed its v3.56. I just wanna try 3.29 cos mbarvian and the people on his rom thread that had success with his rom have 3.29 installed.
I read the flashing for noobs sticky and i've been following it verbatim. when I went to try and format my SD card to fat32 it wouldn't let me. I used resco explorer and when I tried to format it it said it wasn't unlocked. that's one thing I failed to ask about in my original post: how do I unlock the SD card?
I used 2 other kaisercustomruu's from other roms and they all forced my comp to shut down. I even ran it on my gf's comp and it shut hers down too.
help!

poppinpengawen said:
how do I unlock the SD card?
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Take your microsd card and place it into the converter (normal sized sd card). There is a switch on the side. Place the switch in the opposite position of "lock"
poppinpengawen said:
I used 2 other kaisercustomruu's from other roms and they all forced my comp to shut down. I even ran it on my gf's comp and it shut hers down too.
help!
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It sounds like you do not have kaisercustomruu in a folder, which contains .nbh file. Rather you are probably attempting to run it from your desktop???

poppinpengawen said:
I do have hardspl installed its v3.56. I just wanna try 3.29 cos mbarvian and the people on his rom thread that had success with his rom have 3.29 installed.
I read the flashing for noobs sticky and i've been following it verbatim. when I went to try and format my SD card to fat32 it wouldn't let me. I used resco explorer and when I tried to format it it said it wasn't unlocked. that's one thing I failed to ask about in my original post: how do I unlock the SD card?
I used 2 other kaisercustomruu's from other roms and they all forced my comp to shut down. I even ran it on my gf's comp and it shut hers down too.
help!
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Ah, you have to use a SD Card reader on a PC to format it, not through the phone.

each time I ran kaisercustomruu it was in a folder with an nbh file. does it have to be by itself with the nbh file? just kaisercustomruu and the rom file?
oh that's all I have to do? just put it in the SD adapter and flip the switch? does it have to be in a computer for it to work?

poppinpengawen said:
each time I ran kaisercustomruu it was in a folder with an nbh file. does it have to be by itself with the nbh file? just kaisercustomruu and the rom file?
oh that's all I have to do? just put it in the SD adapter and flip the switch? does it have to be in a computer for it to work?
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No.... there is nothing wrong with your SD card.
Do this:
1. Remove your SD card and your SIM Card. Start your device.
2. Connect your Device to your PC Via ActiveSync. Make sure you are fully connected.
3. Unzip and copy the exe file of attached JumpSPL to your device memory.
4. Run Jump/Soft SPL on your device
5. Wait for the bootloader screen to appear and "USB" to show.
6. Right-click activesync icon on the PC tray, go into connection settings and ensure Allow USB Connections is unchecked
7. Unplug your device from the USB port, wait 5 - 20 seconds, plug it back in.
8. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe of the desired HardSPL and flash HardSPL3.29
To see if you have successfully flashed the 3.29 HardSPL press the camera and power button and press the soft reset once all at the same time, you will see the four color screen and it should display the SPL version.

Whether your SD card is locked or unlocked has no barrier on flashing SPL on your device, since you need to have it out of the device when you perform the SPL install.
Fat32 sometimes would not allow operation of certain files on your PC. thats why sometimes PPC programs or files would not open on your PC and would give you error msgs. Now some folks tried to create a virtual fat32 folder that could in some instances open or run fat32 programs that are created for mobile devices, but in most cases that would crash your PC OS and shuts it down. Same story with netCF files.
So in essence if you were to follow my instructions above, you will get it done and it should not take longer that two minutes to complete the process.
Again.... DO NOT SHORTCUT THE INSTRUCTIONS.
Good luck

asfoor said:
No.... there is nothing wrong with your SD card.
Do this:
1. Remove your SD card and your SIM Card. Start your device.
2. Connect your Device to your PC Via ActiveSync. Make sure you are fully connected.
3. Unzip and copy the exe file of attached JumpSPL to your device memory.
4. Run Jump/Soft SPL on your device
5. Wait for the bootloader screen to appear and "USB" to show.
6. Right-click activesync icon on the PC tray, go into connection settings and ensure Allow USB Connections is unchecked
7. Unplug your device from the USB port, wait 5 - 20 seconds, plug it back in.
8. Run KaiserCustomRUU.exe of the desired HardSPL and flash HardSPL3.29
To see if you have successfully flashed the 3.29 HardSPL press the camera and power button and press the soft reset once all at the same time, you will see the four color screen and it should display the SPL version.
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I did do all that. like I said I followed the instructions to a tee, but when I ran the kaisercustomruu that was included with the hardspl file my comp just shut down.
question: if I run jumpspl and then use the htc update utility to flash hardspl, would that work? (the htc update utility is the update utility that worked when I tried to flash the rom but it just sat at 0%)

asfoor said:
Whether your SD card is locked or unlocked has no barrier on flashing SPL on your device, since you need to have it out of the device when you perform the SPL install.
Fat32 sometimes would not allow operation of certain files on your PC. thats why sometimes PPC programs or files would not open on your PC and would give you error msgs. Now some folks tried to create a virtual fat32 folder that could in some instances open or run fat32 programs that are created for mobile devices, but in most cases that would crash your PC OS and shuts it down. Same story with netCF files.
So in essence if you were to follow my instructions above, you will get it done and it should not take longer that two minutes to complete the process.
Again.... DO NOT SHORTCUT THE INSTRUCTIONS.
Good luck
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but in the sticky it says that in order to change to cmonex's 3.29 i'd have to flash via SD card. that's why I was wondering how to format it to fat32. but i'll try to do it again and see if it works this time. thanks for the files

my sandisk 8g micro sdhc won't let me delete files, ad files, or even reformat the card

poppinpengawen said:
but in the sticky it says that in order to change to cmonex's 3.29 i'd have to flash via SD card. that's why I was wondering how to format it to fat32. but i'll try to do it again and see if it works this time. thanks for the files
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can't you read? Why are you doing Cmonex? JUST FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS. hardSPL3.29 is same protocol on both CMONEX and POF and whoever tells otherwise is full of BS. Again.... just follow my instructions..

msd24200 said:
my sandisk 8g micro sdhc won't let me delete files, ad files, or even reformat the card
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Are you trying to add files to your card by inserting it into your laptop using an adapter?
BTW certain adapters for some reason or another will not allow you to do that after the SD card has been placed and used in a phone.
Can you access the SD card through ActiveSync? If you have installed programs on your SD card and you are trying to delete them from the SD card it would not let you as there is a shared violation in that process. The way to do is that you would need to remove the programs first from your device by using the Remove prompt in your settings page on your phone, then going to your SD card and deleting the program files. If you do it in the reverse order you will run into problems; Remnants of those programs will still reside in your main memory.
The attached is a utility that would help format SD card. DO NOT UNZIP IT. Just create a folder on your PC and save the attached in it, When done, change the file type of the attached file from zip to exe. Then right hand click it and do the extract to the folder you created. Follow the included instructions to format the SD card.

poppinpengawen said:
I did do all that. like I said I followed the instructions to a tee, but when I ran the kaisercustomruu that was included with the hardspl file my comp just shut down.
question: if I run jumpspl and then use the htc update utility to flash hardspl, would that work? (the htc update utility is the update utility that worked when I tried to flash the rom but it just sat at 0%)
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Wait a second..... Do you have your device CID unlocked? In other words, did you unlock your device using one of the methods in the stickies? I am NOt talking about SPL .... Were you able to flash a cooked ROM on your device?

asfoor said:
Are you trying to add files to your card by inserting it into your laptop using an adapter?
BTW certain adapters for some reason or another will not allow you to do that after the SD card has been placed and used in a phone.
Can you access the SD card through ActiveSync? If you have installed programs on your SD card and you are trying to delete them from the SD card it would not let you as there is a shared violation in that process. The way to do is that you would need to remove the programs first from your device by using the Remove prompt in your settings page on your phone, then going to your SD card and deleting the program files. If you do it in the reverse order you will run into problems; Remnants of those programs will still reside in your main memory.
The attached is a utility that would help format SD card. DO NOT UNZIP IT. Just create a folder on your PC and save the attached in it, When done, change the file type of the attached file from zip to exe. Then right hand click it and do the extract to the folder you created. Follow the included instructions to format the SD card.
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yeah i've tried adding/deleting pics, vids, music, etc... with phone and pc and neither works, up until a couple weeks ago i was moving pics/vids to and from the card with the ppc and the pc with no problems. i have used several different card adapters in case one was bad but no matter what i have done, nothing has worked. i already even tried the file you sent and couldn't get the sdformatter to work either. i haven't installed any aps to the card only save pics and all on there, keep my fav program cabs on there as well.

msd24200 said:
yeah i've tried adding/deleting pics, vids, music, etc... with phone and pc and neither works, up until a couple weeks ago i was moving pics/vids to and from the card with the ppc and the pc with no problems. i have used several different card adapters in case one was bad but no matter what i have done, nothing has worked. i already even tried the file you sent and couldn't get the sdformatter to work either. i haven't installed any aps to the card only save pics and all on there, keep my fav program cabs on there as well.
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Sounds to me your 8GB SDHC Card failed if it worked before and isn't anymore. Can you play the music on the card from either your PC or Kaiser?

going crazy
so i've been following asfoor's advice. I ran kaiserunlocker, but none of the steps made any progress. I tried using it to flash spl3.29, but my spl still shows 3.56. I tried flashing the patched radio, but its still the same (1.65.21.18). I downloaded v2.0, so I know I have the most recent version of kaiserunlocker. help! im getting more and more frustrated.

[Q] No image found

I have windows7 on my pc, and when i try to install Rom it just says img not found... Same if i just copy it onto the sd(via usb transfer if it matters)

super2 said:
I have windows7 on my pc, and when i try to install Rom it just says img not found... Same if i just copy it onto the sd(via usb transfer if it matters)
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If you could give more information about the complete process that you have done, it would be easier for someone to help you.
For example, what is the name of the ROM?
How are you decompressing it?
Are you trying to flash via WMDC or SD Card?
I am also running Windows 7 on my computer and have no trouble at all.
I think it may be something to do with the process you are doing.
Let us know what it is. I'm sure we'll be able to help in some way.

For example, what is the name of the ROM?
How are you decompressing it?
Are you trying to flash via WMDC or SD Card?
It is http_://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 this one and i already have installed max sense on the phone, and what to change it tolower ram usage and etc... Tried titantium and sense 2.1 no success. I tried via the usb connection. but cannot locate a device, after it is being rebooted. And then i tried to transfer the divimg.nbh to the sd card and reboot, no success - no image found.

one thing is clear: if you try to install the rom from sd card, your Rom name ("divimg....") is wrong. It should be something like "raphimg.nbh".
How do you establish connection between PC and your TP? There are reported some difficulties connecting your TP with the PC via Windows 7 using device center. Using the search may help...
good luck

Please post [Q] in general section.

borisku said:
one thing is clear: if you try to install the rom from sd card, your Rom name ("divimg....") is wrong. It should be something like "raphimg.nbh".
How do you establish connection between PC and your TP? There are reported some difficulties connecting your TP with the PC via Windows 7 using device center. Using the search may help...
good luck
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I see, that should be the problem, thank you. Yes i am using the device center.

Divimg.nbh? Where'd you come up with that, lol?
It needs to be named RAPHIMG.nbh. Make sure the extension is correct, and you don't have RAPHIMG.nbh.nbh, or something like that. And the card has to be formatted to FAT32, and the image must be on the root of the card. That's all there is to it. You also need to have hard spl.

It worked just with the normal file.

same problem
Hi there...
I try to flash the new rom on my TP, and:
1) HardSPL is done, I flash one time a month ..
2) via SD card is written: Image not found - card has been formatted to FAT32, name of the image IS RAPHIMG.nbh.
3) via USB installation goes to the installation screen where "Image not found" is written also ... Active sync has been made, I've checked, that "USB support" is OK.
I have placed ROM and the *.exe file into one folder ..
Can anyone help me?
EDIT: Win XP Prof. 32BIT, Touch Pro and the ROM is ENERGY 23699 Sencity/Touch of Glass - tried both of them.