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OK Guys I Have a HTC mogul and it is a really good phone i really like it.. But I am really concidering getting an iPhone.. I like the flow that the iPhone has where I dont get that with my mogul.... My question, Is it worth buying... I will be keeping my mogul, the iPhone will just be xtra for the features... Im not even going to be using the phone, just the data, text, and multimedia features.

Definitely... I used to detest the iPhone till I got my hands on one... and believe me... the Windows UI has a long way to go. I got bored of everything on the iPhone rather quickly but I must say that I am really impressed with how smooth and fluidic everything is. WinMo is **** in that respect. I especially love the Safari Browser... it is such a pleasure to use it to browse. I use my PPC to browse the net only as a last resort...but with Safari, I would find reasons to use it.
At, $400, it's a decnt buy. Go for it... i'd recommend it.

If you have money to burn, then do so.
That said so do I, but I still bring myself to buy it versus a good PDA

I would wait!
You should wait and keep your mogul because an iphone like ui is coming out on new years day.
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check it out in action:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw1T-N5dic

bassplaya said:
You should wait and keep your mogul because an iphone like ui is coming out on new years day.
check it out in action:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw1T-N5dic
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Yo i like your set up you have there if i do get the iPhone it wont be until like the 3rd or 4th... I want to know how to do stuff like your screen... I did have the iphone skin about 2 months ago i wasnt to impressed and it got boring so where do i go to start with the basics like what is a kitchen??

I'd say if you don't plan on using the phone perhaps look into the iPod Touch. You couldn't text or browse out and about, but could with Wifi. Will let you have the interface of the iPhone and keep you from having to pay a large monthly phone fee for services you're mostly not using.

Zyphlin said:
I'd say if you don't plan on using the phone perhaps look into the iPod Touch. You couldn't text or browse out and about, but could with Wifi. Will let you have the interface of the iPhone and keep you from having to pay a large monthly phone fee for services you're mostly not using.
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Well i will be getting on a friend of mines plan and i will pay $29 to use the data and text. the plan i have with my mogul has 3000 min, unlm. text, unlim. data, equipment protection, unlim. n&w, the works basicly and it is only $37 after taxes..... so i figure $70 a month for 2 phones isnt bad

I feel for anybody that needs to ask the question of whether they should or should not get an Iphone.
Being a great lover of the WM and haveing gone through 2003, on and off the WM5 train and now on the WM6 rom (waiting for 6.1) I find at the end of the day the only reason I like WM is that I can play with it.
2 Weeks ago I went in a apple store in the USA (I am from switzerland) and looked at an IPhone. I have to admit its nice, the interface is nice, it flows, you can get the grips of it with a FAT thumb. It has 16gig of ram.
Now I have a Blue Angel, the reason I still have it is due to the fact that I am na old fart and need the 3.5 screen (Iphone has a big one).
I have am 2 gig SD card and can't listen to MP3 of it due to a the speed of the card and the device (IPHONE has 16gig internal).
I have a big fat thumb and am on the 7th or 17th stylist on my BA (have not seen many people taping with a biro on there IPhone (as they lost the stylist)).
I had to buy a new belt to keep my trousers up with my BA (or Kaiser), (Iphone is thin and slick).
My BA has as much sex appele as wet toilet roll. (face it the Iphone looks and feels nice).
So why do I still have a old BA ?
Well I cant play with roms, cook them or spend my nights in XDA.
I have ZERO software that I can download and try.
I cant Sync me works contacts or my privat ones as I happen to work for an organisation that has more than 20'000 people and thus is sort of on the coparte M$ train.
I work on the other Main Land and there is more to our lives than MM/DD/YY and English.
So I stick with a HTC device running on windows mobile and will most likly end up buying a Iphone for my wife.
Life sucks when you have to admit to defeat, HTC get your act together!!! You have to many damb phones that do some things, some have GPS and a small screen, some have a larger screen and no Keyboard, some have a keyboard and no FM Radio. And they are all NOT sexy!!!

Get yourself a Touch Cruise and then you can be the envy of the iFone crowd, you know it makes sense, 3G, GPS and you can "Play" with it, put the iFone screens on the BA and give it the other half (will she notice - probably; so duck quickly) - as an aside I have never lost a stylus from my BA - it is still stuck in the damn thing and refuses to release, I am not going to open it though just for this!

The Touch only has a 2.8 screen that I cant read

ableobject said:
Yo i like your set up you have there if i do get the iPhone it wont be until like the 3rd or 4th... I want to know how to do stuff like your screen... I did have the iphone skin about 2 months ago i wasnt to impressed and it got boring so where do i go to start with the basics like what is a kitchen??
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This is a user interface made by PointUI. Check it out here:http://www.pointui.com/

bassplaya said:
You should wait and keep your mogul because an iphone like ui is coming out on new years day.
check it out in action:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw1T-N5dic
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Well, I love the Kaiser, and just recently switched from the iPhone. This UI, and Windows UI, have a long way to go to compete with the iPhone's.
The thing is, you can't compare the two devices;
iPhone - Heavy in multimedia, Style, INTERNET
Mogul - Business User oriented; satisfactory multimedia use.

bassplaya said:
This is a user interface made by PointUI. Check it out here:http://www.pointui.com/
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Love the interface dude.. Got it but there is one thing i cant get it to do and that is go to the phone when i touch The icon. is there something special that i have to link that button to???

ableobject said:
Love the interface dude.. Got it but there is one thing i cant get it to do and that is go to the phone when i touch The icon. is there something special that i have to link that button to???
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It goes to a recent call list.

The #1 Reason Not to Buy an iPhone

I just discovered the #1 reason not to buy an iPhone. Of course there are many which you all know about but this one takes the prize! Reading around some of my favorite pocketpc sites I discovered an article from the Boy Genius Report which provides a review of the iPhone SDK. Further research by developer Robert Balousek into the SDK have revealed an incredible flaw:
"Only one iPhone application can run at a time, and third-party applications never run in the background. This means that when users switch to another application, answer the phone, or check their email, the application they were using quits."
The quote above is pulled from the iPhone Human Interface Guidelines document available on the SDK site. Too bad they don't mention this kind of stuff on the iPhone ad considering multitasking is the whole point of mobile computing. Ridiculous.
Here is the full article: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/08/iphone-sdk-honeymoon-over-no-background-processes/

dude what a bag o wa*k. Would concider one but for a change the Microsoft option has a more open and editable os on a wider range of phones. (yer I know thive apple some time but I do get the feeling that this is going the same take over the world direction the ipod toulk)

<points and laughs>
Anyone who pays extra money *per call* to own an iPhone is an idiot.
"But you pay the same for calls as you do on other phones" you say. No. If your telco was not paying apple a slice of your call revenue, they could afford to cut costs. You ARE paying for the privelidge of owning a feature-poor over-hyped piece of junk.
I had to laugh so hard the other day. Someone I know was extolling the virtues of the apple multi-touch interface. I told him to show me multi-touch. He did a gesture with one finger. LOL. Most of them don't even ever use multi-touch on the phone or know what it is and it's the phone's only unique feature.

Why would anyone want to get sucked into buying a stupid fad anyway?
Sure the iphone is "pretty" or something ... and naturally being gadget freaks, most of us will be interested in it at first ... but after doing the proper research it's totally not work it. No MMS, no keyboard ..etc..
I'm sure WM based companies are going to step it up a notch and as soon as WM 7 is released, its going to completely slaughter the iphone.

There should be a specific thread or forum on why you shouldn't buy an Iphone. My coworker (sex withheld, lol) was show-boating her iphone to everyone. Once she dangled that expensive piece of hardware in front of me, I told her that it doesn't send picture messages, no gps, the touch screen keyboard suck (to me and many others I know), the internet is slower than what the commercials show (no 3G), it's so ridiculously expensive, it has it own plan for pete's sake, you can't remove the damn battery, and more memory slot. I also told her (being that we live in miami) to be careful because if and when the weather exceeds 96 degrees, (and it will), kiss your iphone night night, lol.
Forgive me for my run-on sentences

robosiris said:
There should be a specific thread or forum on why you shouldn't buy an Iphone. My coworker (sex withheld, lol) was show-boating her iphone to everyone. Once she dangled that expensive piece of hardware in front of me, I told her that it doesn't send picture ....
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Too late!

yeah. so much for the sex withheld....muahahahah...and all those her are code names??
back to iPHONY. sucks big time. but have to pay big time = WM7 i m waiting!!!

iPHONE
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robosiris said:
There should be a specific thread or forum on why you shouldn't buy an Iphone. My coworker (sex withheld, lol) was show-boating her iphone to everyone. Once she dangled that expensive piece of hardware in front of me, I told her that it doesn't send picture messages, no gps, the touch screen keyboard suck (to me and many others I know), the internet is slower than what the commercials show (no 3G), it's so ridiculously expensive, it has it own plan for pete's sake, you can't remove the damn battery, and more memory slot. I also told her (being that we live in miami) to be careful because if and when the weather exceeds 96 degrees, (and it will), kiss your iphone night night, lol.
Forgive me for my run-on sentences
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I'm going to send this thread to my wifes brother in-law as he's thinking he is the Sh%# now that he has this thin brick POS....

not only that, your apps have to be approved by steve-o because god forbid, you might code something that might bring down the cell networks and you also have to pay a $99 membership a year i think to develop and submit your applications to the itunes store. LOL

Merlin_reloaded said:
Too late!
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I'd rather be late than have an iphone,
As far as Iphone faults are concerned, the list goes on and on.

mchapman007 said:
I'm going to send this thread to my wifes brother in-law as he's thinking he is the Sh%# now that he has this thin brick POS....
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wouldn't your wifes brother in law be your brother ! unless you live in one of those countries where piligimy is accepted, in which case I guess you could be just 1 of your wifes hareem of husbands

ice_coffee said:
wouldn't your wifes brother in law be your brother ! unless you live in one of those countries where piligimy is accepted, in which case I guess you could be just 1 of your wifes hareem of husbands
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Notice my location... Good call.. LOL! (Her Sisters husband....)

iTunes would have been my 1st guess.

mchapman007 said:
Notice my location... Good call.. LOL! (Her Sisters husband....)
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LOL, I stand corrected

Phone of the decade!!!!

As we draw near to the end of the 'noughties' i thought it would be interesting to see what everyone thought was the phone of the decade.
This decade has truely been amazing in the tech its brought us, could we have imagined 10 years agao the devices we could get hold of today???
This thread isn't just about the best spec phone but (that would obviously be won be the most recent devices) but should also be about inovation, cult status, tech breakthroughs etc.
I own a HTC hd2 which is simply an amazing phone!!! 1ghz under the hood, 4.2" capacitive screen, HTC sense etc. Saying that though i think the phone i loved the most was my tytn11. When i first got that phone it was like a car with its handbreak on! eventually the mechanics here on XDA lifted the hand break to create arguably one of the best devices of the decade?
Also as this decade cames to an end a massive thank you to all the devs here at XDA, we, HTC, and Microsoft wouldn't know what to do with out you!!! Heres to the Next 10 years, what will we have in our pockets then????????
Mods, If this thread needs to be moved somewhere please feel free to do so.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599210
see post number 2

orb3000 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599210
see post number 2
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Like your thread mate, very well presented but its not the phone of the decade. seems like you jumped the gun in 2008???
Kovski - Sony Ericsson Xperia = HTC???
You are doing lots of polls but i want to know what people think? Its not a straight forward as one better than the other, its about (as i said in my first post) inovation, cult status, tech breakthroughs etc not just about people having the newest device so 'voting for that!'
I'm encouraging people to discuss their thoughts on this so this thread is b=very different to yours.
Oh and putting Please just vote do not post, even if your device is not on the list isn't the way to construct an accurate poll!!

Thanks for your constructive opinions, I got your point and you got mine
On that case I would say that the phone of the decade is HTC Universal
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Good thread!
P.d: quote:seems like you jumped the gun in 2008???quote.
Devices presented on that poll from 2008 are older (some from 2003)

Agreed, that is a cracking phone!
Thanks for the reply mate, like i said your threads are great really good work
DB

Y'know, technically there's still another year of the current decade left.

Mine is....
My phone of choice is the palm treo 700w. It was the first phone to get me hooked on wm. Since then i have had the tp, and now i have the tp2 and hoping to get one of my hands on that beautiful hd2. Happy almost Christmas.

HTC's Magician
phone of the decade= HTC's Magician
why= First phone that blew my mind, so small and powerfull (backthen ) 400 mhz, faster than my ipaq!!! I still have the orange m500 version as paper weight I believe the Magician is the true first mainstream smartphone.

For me it is the Apple Iphone due to it pushed mobility to the next decade.

Nokia N95.
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Seriously, 5MP camera, GPS, music, browser, email - it had it all before any other phone did. Some are still trying to catch up. It's a clear winner!

FloatingFatMan said:
Y'know, technically there's still another year of the current decade left.
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Hmmmm, end of the 'noughties' then.
Dogtag said:
phone of the decade= HTC's Magician
why= First phone that blew my mind, so small and powerfull (backthen ) 400 mhz, faster than my ipaq!!! I still have the orange m500 version as paper weight I believe the Magician is the true first mainstream smartphone.
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This was a great phone!
die_Leuchte said:
For me it is the Apple Iphone due to it pushed mobility to the next decade.
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Although i do hate it its impact on the mobile phone market is undoubted, coukld well go down as the most influential phone of the decade. However there were some serious smart phones out way before the iphone,
Ruudfood said:
Nokia N95.
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Seriously, 5MP camera, GPS, music, browser, email - it had it all before any other phone did. Some are still trying to catch up. It's a clear winner!
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This device was/is packed full of features but lacked......... class? again when this first came out it had a big impact. Issues let it down a bit i think like the fact that the gps was locked to Nokias own navigation software, not much software for it, and the build quality (to me) was terrible?

I have the HD2 but have to agree on the Nokia N95.
The camera is better than any other phone out there still, HD2 comes close though.
It's a bloody tough phone! My brother has dropped his millions of times, cracking the screen and everything and the thing still worked.

Leo vs. Mega vs. Nexus One

which one is the best overall device? Owners only please, no fanboys/trolls.
Grade the phones on this criteria out of 5(ie x/5):
OS:
Size/pocketability:
Battery life:
Processor speed:
Ease of use:
usability of on-screen keyboard:
Apps:
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific):
Overall:
Just to kick things off im going to weigh in on my current phone, the TP2:
OS: 3/5 (using sense 2.5) (5/5 with android)
Size/pocketability: 2/5
Battery life: 5/5
Processor speed: 2/5
Ease of use: 4/5
usability of on-screen keyboard: 1/5
Apps: 2/5
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific): full support
Overal: 3/5

Leo HD2
Leo HD2
OS:5/5 to be honest I think WM6.5 with the Sense on top is amazing never freezes on my phone anymore after installing NRGZ's Energy Rom.
Size/pocketability: 4/5 Although it's big never found it to be a problem in any pocket.
Battery life:3/5 For a smart phone pretty good but with heavy usage drops pretty quick aswel. On standby lasts for ages.
Processor speed: 5/5 everything is pretty much instant
Ease of use: 5/5 Didn't strugle with anything
usability of on-screen keyboard: 4/5 could be better still getting used to it. Theres ways of making typing easier but isnt really an isue for me.
Apps: 2/5 at the moment not much about but it's early days to fingers crossed.
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific): 5/5
Overall:
I think this is a great phone. I must admit with the stock ROM it wouldn't have achieved the scores I gave but with a bit of messing around it's simply amazing. Also when you can play a PS1 on the go always getting a 5/5 from me lol
Haven't experianced any of the others phones but to be honest whichever you pick bar the MEGA don't think you will be dissapointed its really a LEO vs Nexus battle so if you want android Nexus WM Leo.
Hope this helps

Both the HD2 & N1 are great choices...but depends on your OS, Apps, etc. preference's.
I have the Nexus One and there's no looking back...it is so fast & cool!

Personally, I would choose Leo, but as galaxys says, all will depend on what you want/need from a device.
Have a look here for a detailed comparative:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2174&id3=2028
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I´m not an owner just gave this neutral full info, hope it´s ok

thanks for the thoughts. I think ive narrowed it down to the Nexus One and the HD2. Im still really torn though. I love android but i love stuff like the FM tuner and the dual flash in the HD2. :/ The other thing thats holding me back is the fact that they dont support ATT 3G. I heard about a ATT N1 but that could be months because ATT takes AGES to adopt unlocked phones, it took them almost a year for them to adopt the TP2. what to do, what to do....

Great thread so far!
I'm in the exact situation, but in London/UK
I'm currently on O2 via CPW (Car Phone Warehouse) which means I can jump to whoever, but have decided that I will buy the phone off-line to save a fair amount of money and use whatever SiM I feel fit. I'm not a greedy mobile user, but like at least anything from 400 to 1000 minutes talk on any network, similar or unlimited SMS's, and unlimited web usage.
Anywho... I was dead set on the HD2, as I'm coming from a HTC Touch HD. However, the Nexus One is almost like for like in actual spec, but of course a different and new OS to me. The main pluses that tipping the scales towards the HTC HD2 is (mainly) the larger screen, have a lot of great WM OS applications that I know and use often, M$ Office which I use at least once a week, the WM Contacts works pretty damn close to M$ Office on my HTPC (W7x64) and well lastly I know WM OS.
I'm not afraid of new that's for sure, as I been in more complicated situations and do a ROM update almost every couple weeks. I'm a heavy Windows user, but sadly have to use Mac OS on a weekly basis too, being a film editor (Mac's are NOT the best for film editing, but somehow other humans think it is).
So what is it about the Nexus One that gives it the ability to compete with the HD2? Are there plenty of great apps out there already? Does Android sync with M$ Outlook 2007 (or even 2010) perfectly OK? Is there anything I'm going to miss or moan about soon into a week of using a Nexus One?
What is your typical day on your phone 'bdk184'... what is key to you? [^_^]
I love my Touch HD, but wish it was faster and possible a better screen. The HD2 simply answers that... but somehow, I keep hearing in the back of my headphones... Nexus One. [-_-]
PS. Thanks for that comparison 'orb3000'... although it's made me think more, it's got me thinking the right questions. The Nexus One has a better colour depth... Hmm!?! [^_^]

i own the nexus one, and to be honest i do not like android... the phone is nice and all but i would prefer getting the htc hd2.

New - HTC Incredible on Android OS
@un1uncky - LoL! I think I've felt that many times too, but when I start using WinMo again, feels fine until I start hitting all the ugly GUi's again.
Hmm... another option maybe... HTC Incredible / http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...top-end-android-specs-668954?src=rss&attr=all

un1ucky said:
i own the nexus one, and to be honest i do not like android... the phone is nice and all but i would prefer getting the htc hd2.
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Never have I seen a name which suits as good as yours!!
Have you considered trying to do a trade for a HD2 in Marketplace or a straight sell to fund getting a HD2?

Best value for money WM phone

Hi guys
I'm looking for a good value for money windows mobile phone.
It has to have
Touch Screen
QWERTY keyboard
At least 128MB of ram
At least 400mhz CPU
Decent battery life.
Mini USB connection
Good ROM development.
I have owned
HTC S630 (64mb & 200mhz)
Imate 8502 (Good specs but no rom development)
Samsung C6625 (Good specs but not touch screen and little rom dev)
I've been looking at the HP Ipaq data messenger (£150 new ebay) but I hear its got a crap battery life.
I'm not looking to spend £300 ($500) on a phone!
Something perhaps around £180.
Has to be pay as you go. I avoid contracts like a plague!
Thanks.

get a kaiser / tilt

HTC all the way
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device you can find this days.
It´s a great piece of work with a great design.
You won´t regret it.
With some luck you can find a tmobile version very cheap this days, have a look on marketplace section

MoneyFist said:
I've been looking at the HP Ipaq data messenger (£150 new ebay) but I hear its got a crap battery life.
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Do NOT, I repeat, NOT get an iPAQ DM. I have it laying in front of me here. It fails on so many levels it ain't even funny. Let me name all bad things about it:
1. The battery lasts 1 day with luck.
2. Getting a GPS lock can easily take 10 minutes.
3. It has the standard Windows Mobile UI, which blows.
4. Even if you install SPB Mobile Shell, be prepared for lockups.
5. The keyboard is crap. It doesn't type good at all, I had the phone for 7 months and I still ain't that fast on it.
6. My 'E' and 'V' button begin having troubles early on. Where I had to press extra hard to use them.
7. Pretty much no chance at WinMo 6.5.x, as the boot loader is encrypted.
8. The QVGA screen is near useless.
9. The camera is completely useless. It has no autofocus, is blurry as hell. And taking a picture can take 5 seconds. And if you want to delete the picture or take a new one, it's gonna load 5 minutes again.
10. Unless you're using some simple WiFi encryption like WEP, don't expect to have a connection all the time.
11. All the hardware buttons on the side are way too hard to press.
12. It has no Mini USB, it looks like it, but it's some HP-proprietary nonsense.
13. ROM development is 0.0, like I said, encrypted.
14. It failed so hard, HP canceled production of it not long after it was released.
15. Just don't get this phone. You'll regret it.

kekkle said:
Do NOT, I repeat...Just don't get this phone. You'll regret it.
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Tell us how you really feel. LOL

my suggestion is no matter what qwerty keyboard phone u get DO NOT GET THE SE XPERIA X1 that phone have a 512 cpu and i think like a 800 mbs on. im currently using it and im VERY unhappy with the phone. i was hoping it to be better then it should be. if u dont drops your phone or anything i would suggest a Nokia N97 or a Nokia N900
i personally would give a rating of the X1 from a 3 outta 5.
some people are havin problems with the bluetooth(headset) on the x1 and i am too.(bluetooth static noise) i personally dont like the virbration of the phone,the loudness. the phone is VERY low when is on max. and when i have the phone in my pocket i TOTALY dont feel the phone virbrating in my pocket.and most of the time the Camera frezzes on me and that lead into a phone freeze.i had a Nokia N97 and im very happy with it. i thought the SE X1 would be better then the N97 and stupid enough to sold the N97. EXTREMELY UNHaPPY WITH SE X1. AND VERY UNHAPPY WITH SE COUSTOMER SERVICES! im saying that because my phone is still under warrently, my phone having problems they're gunna make me pay 200$ to get my phone fix.. i would highly suggest N97.
N97 space is by G and the CPU is 1GHZ

orb3000 said:
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device you can find this days.
It´s a great piece of work with a great design.
You won´t regret it.
With some luck you can find a tmobile version very cheap this days, have a look on marketplace section
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+1...the Rhodium is great, and nails every one of your requirements

This ones easy. If you want to pay $250 - $300 get an HD2, if you want to pay $100 - $250 get a Touch Pro 2/Tilt2/Rhodium. Both are abosolutely killer phones and you can pick them up second hand for pennies on the dollar. I say an HD2 because you think you have to have a real KB but after using the HD2 touch KB you won't need it anymore. I bought a mint ATT TILT2 for $150 the other day, then I bought an HD2 kit with everything and less then 5 hours on the phone total for $250. Everyone is selling their smart phones to pay the $300 for the new iphone so you can get phones for nothing now in local classifieds.

krook6023 said:
Tell us how you really feel. LOL
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Hehe, there's only one thing I really miss from the phone. That is the mute slider on top. As it allows you to quickly put the phone on vibrate and back on sound. Especially great in meetings. You just slide your hand in your pocket and do it quickly without even having to get it out.
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+1 Rhodium