Internet Sharing and battery drain - Touch Pro, Fuze General

So...I use internet sharing as my primary source of internet as ?I am on the road a lot. Recently my phone has started to stop charging at some point while using internet sharing. I am trying to figure out why, the best I can find online is it is a heating issue and the phone stops charging at a certain temp. Should I keep it in my freezer at home wrapped in a cloth or something? Really annoying when I am working and the phone dies and I have to go out w/o a charge. Anyone know if it could be a radio issue? Thanks in advance,

votum said:
So...I use internet sharing as my primary source of internet as ?I am on the road a lot. Recently my phone has started to stop charging at some point while using internet sharing. I am trying to figure out why, the best I can find online is it is a heating issue and the phone stops charging at a certain temp. Should I keep it in my freezer at home wrapped in a cloth or something? Really annoying when I am working and the phone dies and I have to go out w/o a charge. Anyone know if it could be a radio issue? Thanks in advance,
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Its definitely a heating issue.
You can try different radios and see if that helps.
I have had some radios get my device really hot, compared to others.
Keep it by an AC vent or when it overheats, unplug it, cool it down and plug it back in.

what app are you using for internet share? im using the HTC Internet Sharing app that recently came out and i had the same experience BUT i figured that its because its using WIFI and also connected to data soo i believe its normal, what i find is that if u go on simple sites or use an IM without surfing the net, it wont overheat as quick, or if lucky it wont at all, the reason is the amount of data transferred to the phone then it transfers (via WIFI) it to the wireless pc at a fast rate which uses alot of CPU, which can be the blame for the over heat and mysterious non charge even if its connected to the charger...those some of the things thats causing ur problems, and btw yes sometimes keep it next to an AC, could lower down the temps a little bit

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[Q] Overheating warning while wifi tethering...

Has anybody figured out wired tethering yet?
I use my phone as my primary internet source and I get a critical overheating message that pops up after around 30 minutes of wifi tethering.
I have SetCPU and have it lower the CPU frequency and that helps a little bit, but this thing is going to melt if I have to use it for very long.
When I attempt to use wired tethering it doesn't recognize my device as it should.
I have installed the LG drivers when I rooted the phone; however, it still needs some drivers that weren't included in that package.
Thanks in advance for the help.
diablos991 said:
Has anybody figured out wired tethering yet?
I use my phone as my primary internet source and I get a critical overheating message that pops up after around 30 minutes of wifi tethering.
I have SetCPU and have it lower the CPU frequency and that helps a little bit, but this thing is going to melt if I have to use it for very long.
When I attempt to use wired tethering it doesn't recognize my device as it should.
I have installed the LG drivers when I rooted the phone; however, it still needs some drivers that weren't included in that package.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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I dont quite know how to help you with your wired tether prob but Im also experiencing extreme over heating when I wifi theter..or when I charge the device..wth is going on with this? im fearing for the phone too much damn heat generating from it only when I do these two things...SMFH..I HATE THIS WHILE HOLDING IT..
I fixed this issue by installing the LG software update package on my pc. It installed the needed drivers for wired tethering.
Now I can tether to my heart's delight without melting this beauty.
Sent from my LG-P999

[Q] ATT - Samsung Skyrocket Getting Heated Up - Exchanged Phone !!!

I just bought Samsung Skyrocket phone from ATT, initially after about 20 mins of video or voice chat phone was getting really heat up at the back by the camera. I exchanged the device but still the same issue. Is this just how Skyrocket works or is there a setting which can be changed? It is getting heat up than normal phone
Mines been fine. The only tome it'll her hot is if I'm playing gta + charging the phone.
Or if I'm talking + charging; and even then its after like 5 minutes of use
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They get warm under constant use. Make sure your battery is seated well. If it causes issues with the phone exchange it again, otherwise I think it is normal for these phones.
Any phone will get warm (not hot) with prolonged use. My inebriated girlfriend kept me on the phone for 2.5 hours last night. I wouldn't say it was ever more than "warm." By no means uncomfortable.
Same problem. After 15 mins of talk time i wouldn't be able to hold the phone close to my ears. I don't two devices can be wrong, its probably something wrong with the manufacturing of Skyrocket. I am very disappointed and returning this back unless someone here has a trick to reduce that heating? Thanks
Try charging and running GPS at the same time, and you can cook your hand. I was guiding my wife yesterday trying to find car dealers and with the phone plugged into a car charger + running GPS, I had to set it down because it was getting too hot to hold.
Doesn't seem much different from any other phone I've used GPS extensively on, other than it got to those temps a lot faster than most. I mostly figured that was related to the fact that it's such a thin device.
If I use navigation while I'm driving, it gets more than warm.
If I charge it while navigating, it definitely gets really hot. I believe it may even overheat and the GPS turns itself off temporarily for a minute.
It gets warm during phone conversations.
Other than that, it stays cool doing anything else like playing a video for even hours.
Lucidmike said:
If I use navigation while I'm driving, it gets more than warm.
If I charge it while navigating, it definitely gets really hot. I believe it may even overheat and the GPS turns itself off temporarily for a minute.
It gets warm during phone conversations.
Other than that, it stays cool doing anything else like playing a video for even hours.
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Hmmm...then really whats the point in having this phone when other phones do not have this pbm
have not had any issues with the phone, only been warm when tethering via hotspot
Mine gets pretty toasty when charging and talking and using GPS, but I've got a case on it as well (which probably isn't great for the battery) but I don't notice the heat as much because of the case.
Check your actual battery temperature and see what it is when it is warm and post the results here
Mine gets warm if it's sitting in my pocket in an area w/ spotty connection. Needless to say, my battery also drains very rapidly when this happens, too.
dumb question..how do i check?
Mine gets heated under extensive use...I used wifi and slacker for 3 he's and if was warm.
rocketed to da sky using mah brain and mah thumbs...
I tried the following:
i) rooted the phone
ii) removed all att apps
iii)disabled 4g
Used for 15 mins to make a call, still same issue it gets rediculously hot. I can say for sure it is definitely gets hot than a normal phone.
Wanted to give ONE last try, exchanged the phone at att store and this phone also had same issue. I gave up and returned the phone. I might get a S-2.
I would just wait...at this point there are at least 3-6 new devices coming out and the sr and s2 will be old news
s0619212 said:
I tried the following:
i) rooted the phone
ii) removed all att apps
iii)disabled 4g
Used for 15 mins to make a call, still same issue it gets rediculously hot. I can say for sure it is definitely gets hot than a normal phone.
Wanted to give ONE last try, exchanged the phone at att store and this phone also had same issue. I gave up and returned the phone. I might get a S-2.
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I got a new skyrocket from AT&T and have exactly same issue - when I try to use GPS and talk on the phone while driving, it gets really hot.
Exchanged 2nd time Yesterday & if it continues, need to get something else -- surprisingly all the sales guys in the att store say that they haven't heard this problem :-(
I hear you guys complain about it but I no have teh issue
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See the problem is, because of the nature of smartphones, and that android is actually a linux os, many problems people face are'nt actually hardware problems. They are problems caused by installed apps and settings the user themself had done. Dumbphones, blackberrys and iPhones lock off this functionality, which is y I don't consider them a computer in ur hand, android is. That being said it is both a blessing and curse, this flexibility we have
Lucidmike said:
If I use navigation while I'm driving, it gets more than warm.
If I charge it while navigating, it definitely gets really hot. I believe it may even overheat and the GPS turns itself off temporarily for a minute.
It gets warm during phone conversations.
Other than that, it stays cool doing anything else like playing a video for even hours.
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Same here. Navigation while charging in the car gets very warm on mine.
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GPS + Charging = Overheating :-(

Hello all,
Saw a few other posts to overheating when not doing much or anything but recently noticed a problem with using the GPS while charging will cause it to over heat and no longer charge. The battery will get in excess of 47° C when this is happening and idles at 33° C.
Seems mainly with GPS though, on call with wifi and bluetooth running at 35° C.
I am using a HTC - T-Mobile myTouch charger with 5V-1A put so is not a high output charger.
Has anyone else seen this?
I know I am not having any luck with these phones.
First one had problems with when using GPS would loose data connection till GPS was discontinued.
Second (this one) has the above problem and had a exchange sent for about 4 hours wouldn't turn on no matter what I did. After I had exchange sent turned on fine and hasn't happened since.
Third (sent back already) had the same problems as the first one will loose data and cell signal when using GPS and will come back when disabled but not till then.
Honestly, you can't expect a phone not to get hot while charging and using GPS. GPS takes a lot of power, also with the screen being on the entire time it takes up even more.
Almost any smart phone should be able to handle 47° C, I wouldn't suggest it for long extended periods of time though.
Most android devices have heat alert that pops up if your phone gets too hot, I'm not sure if ours has one. I've read on a couple of posts of phones running around 125 Fahrenheit, without a warning.
As for the Data kicking off while using GPS, I don't see why it would, mine doesn't. Not sure what to tell you.
Are you running a custom rom?
I do expect it to get hot.
That is normal as the phone is using alot of resources to do that function.
But it should not get to a point where it stops charging.
I have had the Amaze, Sensation, MT4GS, and G2x all have gotten warm but not really a problem where it caused it to stop accepting a charge.
I always remove it from the d30 case and set i cup holder so not trapping heat to avoid the problem.
A few times I have gotten it that hot with it not plugged in.
I only see the "overheat notification" orange blink green blink cycle when it is plugged in charging. If not charging not a problem there.
No custom rom or anything 100% stock and locked yet.
Data connection lost is a weird one.
My Girl has the same phone with no problem there and the 2nd device don't loose data connection just that it heats up really good. Don't know about heat on hers since she don't use GPS long enough to require a charge like I do.
Just the first and third phone that was sent to me have this problem with lose of data connection. Can't use it long enough to see if it over heats :-( lol
I completely skipped over the not charging part, after it gets hot.
I'm going on a trip in a few days, I'll see if my behaves similiarly.
I would just take it back and try again, no data while using GPS is pointless, unless its just a simple setting somewhere I've never seen.
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Just tried a different charger and it got up to 45°c too
Both car chargers work fine on my other phones so don't think is that.
I use mine for GPS a lot (just made a trip from Atlanta to Knoxville ) and had my phone charging playing music and navigating and yes it got hot but it never stopped charging or did the blink cycle .. only time I saw anything remotely close to that is when I left my g2x outside while I was playing ball and saw a notification saying its too hot to operate but nothing on my s
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I've been using my GPS for the last couple of hours now, been downloading maps for when I know I don't have service also along with navigation.
I'm ay 45 Celsius right now. I'm using a fm transmitter with a built on usb outlet on it that doesn't put out the needed power to keep my phone charged. If I was using a real car charger work the correct output I'm sure I would be a little more hot.
No data problems so far or anything else.
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yeah the last few days I have been using it didn't break over 45 much but seems like I need to keep the AC pretty high to accomplish that.
Currently here in PA we have had a few really hot days for us which I know is much toward other states but has been in the mid to high 90's.
I think just the heat from that with windows down is not enough to keep it cool enough.
If the phone gets arround 45 c will be border line and seems like 46 is where over heat protection comes in and stops charging.
As a test I put my sensation in a thick rubber case left charging from 70% and gps that got up to 48 c but never stopped charging. Normally I never ever leave the case on while I do that but wanted to see in this case what would happen.
So it seems like just a HTC One S thing that if reaches a certain point to stop charging to help prevent damage or something.
M9x3mos said:
Hello all,
Saw a few other posts to overheating when not doing much or anything but recently noticed a problem with using the GPS while charging will cause it to over heat and no longer charge. The battery will get in excess of 47° C when this is happening and idles at 33° C.
Seems mainly with GPS though, on call with wifi and bluetooth running at 35° C.
I am using a HTC - T-Mobile myTouch charger with 5V-1A put so is not a high output charger.
Has anyone else seen this?
I know I am not having any luck with these phones.
First one had problems with when using GPS would loose data connection till GPS was discontinued.
Second (this one) has the above problem and had a exchange sent for about 4 hours wouldn't turn on no matter what I did. After I had exchange sent turned on fine and hasn't happened since.
Third (sent back already) had the same problems as the first one will loose data and cell signal when using GPS and will come back when disabled but not till then.
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i always have a data connection issue while using gps i have ever since i got this phone so that custom rom talk is bs this phone drops data all the time while using gps at the same timeand will not return until the gps is off
My phone also has the loss of data issue while using GPS. Shortly after the data loss it will also loose GPS signal and for me a reboot is the only solution
evo9mrjr said:
i always have a data connection issue while using gps i have ever since i got this phone so that custom rom talk is bs this phone drops data all the time while using gps at the same timeand will not return until the gps is off
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You're talking about using the browser whole navigating. Which I personally don't have issues with...
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Putting the Phone in front of an AC is essential in the summer time.
As for the data and gps issues, are you on the latest firmware and radio?
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[Q] May WiFi tethering damage the phone?

Hi guys,
I've a question I cannot properly answer by myself. I've searched the web but I didn't find an exhaustive answer.
I wanna use my Nexus S as WiFi router during holiday, for about one month, several hours a day. I'm concerned to possible damage that this could cause to my phone, especially due to overheating and fast battery drain.
When I tested WiFi tethering I noticed, obviously, overheating and also battery drain.
Since the phone will be probably connected to wall charger while tethering (that causes overheating itself), could the excessive heat damage something, somehow? I think I'll underclock to embank it a little, but I'm still worried..
And also the continue charghing of the battery, beside overheat, could really damage it ? :silly:
gnaurittiello said:
Hi guys,
I've a question I cannot properly answer by myself. I've searched the web but I didn't find an exhaustive answer.
I wanna use my Nexus S as WiFi router during holiday, for about one month, several hours a day. I'm concerned to possible damage that this could cause to my phone, especially due to overheating and fast battery drain.
When I tested WiFi tethering I noticed, obviously, overheating and also battery drain.
Since the phone will be probably connected to wall charger while tethering (that causes overheating itself), could the excessive heat damage something, somehow? I think I'll underclock to embank it a little, but I'm still worried..
And also the continue charghing of the battery, beside overheat, could really damage it ? :silly:
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The battery may be degraded a little bit as a result of overheating. As for the rest of the hardware, I'm not sure what the effect is on that, shouldn't be a real issue I guess. You can try to cool your phone with an icepack underneath it or something? But why not just take a wifi router with you? or make us of Ad-hoc from the laptop?
kwibis said:
The battery may be degraded a little bit as a result of overheating. As for the rest of the hardware, I'm not sure what the effect is on that, shouldn't be a real issue I guess. You can try to cool your phone with an icepack underneath it or something? But why not just take a wifi router with you? or make us of Ad-hoc from the laptop?
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Yes, I thought about cooling the phone somehow, but it sounds weird :silly: Anyway, I'm on linux and the driver (iwl4695) of the wifi card on my laptop doesn't support AP-mode ( I need to connect more than one device to it), so I cannot use that. I would do this to avoid buying a brand new device such a MiFi, but I'm not still sure, but maybe it will be the best choice, (apart from the 50€, obviously :laugh: )
gnaurittiello said:
Yes, I thought about cooling the phone somehow, but it sounds weird :silly: Anyway, I'm on linux and the driver (iwl4695) of the wifi card on my laptop doesn't support AP-mode ( I need to connect more than one device to it), so I cannot use that. I would do this to avoid buying a brand new device such a MiFi, but I'm not still sure, but maybe it will be the best choice, (apart from the 50€, obviously :laugh: )
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They're not that expensive are they? Couple of years back bought a very cheap wifi router for 20 euros... still functioning :good:But good luck with your decision
kwibis said:
They're not that expensive are they? Couple of years back bought a very cheap wifi router for 20 euros... still functioning :good:But good luck with your decision
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Finally I opted for WiFi tethering. Battery is about 42-43 degrees, but it's fine for now. And it's also charging with USB, great. I'm posting this with my PC WiFi connected to the phone.:laugh:
BTW, if phone will die for this, nevermind, it will be a good reason for switch to Galaxy Nexus :silly:
Anyway, thanks for help.:good:
I ìll leave this unsolved, because even if I solved my own situation, it will be interesting read experiences of users using their phones as router for extended period of time. I'll post my own experience after holiday.
ive been using wifi tet. while on my last holiday for about a week, few hrs a day, never got warm/hot when unplugged from charger, although when on charge and i was streaming videos from net , phone was warm..
if ur phone is really hot while using wifi tet, try to reflash ur rom.

Battery discharge while on charger

Using CM11 snapshot january update
I woke up late last night to see my phone still with the yellow charging light on while it was on the charger. i found that odd since it had been on the charger for almost 4 hours. i went to bed with it at 75% and when i went to the battery page it was at 50%. wierd thing is the graph says "3hr and 50 min on battery" but the line graph shows that its is, in fact, charging. another thing ive noticed is that the wifi line graph is solid, im not 100% sure its supposed to be intermittent, i.e. phone is sleeping and what not.
once i noticed that it was still discharging i looked at running apps, nothing outside what anyone else would have running at the end of the night. after i cleared the running apps it started charging again.
i know that i may have answered my own question at the end of the second paragraph but chargers put out more power than a phone can consume while being dormant so im trying to isolate a handful of things.
1. is the wifi line graph supposed to be solid all the time? (I didnt think so but)
2. is the rom im using (cm11 snapshot current update) on an outdated kernel?
3. whatever else that can brainstormed
and before i get a but of wrong forum reply's, i dont have a choice i need my 10 reply's to get this into the correct forum..... unless admin moves it into a developer forum....eh...eh?
thanks for any help you guys can provide.
Justyn86 said:
Using CM11 snapshot january update
I woke up late last night to see my phone still with the yellow charging light on while it was on the charger. i found that odd since it had been on the charger for almost 4 hours. i went to bed with it at 75% and when i went to the battery page it was at 50%. wierd thing is the graph says "3hr and 50 min on battery" but the line graph shows that its is, in fact, charging. another thing ive noticed is that the wifi line graph is solid, im not 100% sure its supposed to be intermittent, i.e. phone is sleeping and what not.
once i noticed that it was still discharging i looked at running apps, nothing outside what anyone else would have running at the end of the night. after i cleared the running apps it started charging again.
i know that i may have answered my own question at the end of the second paragraph but chargers put out more power than a phone can consume while being dormant so im trying to isolate a handful of things.
1. is the wifi line graph supposed to be solid all the time? (I didnt think so but)
2. is the rom im using (cm11 snapshot current update) on an outdated kernel?
3. whatever else that can brainstormed
and before i get a but of wrong forum reply's, i dont have a choice i need my 10 reply's to get this into the correct forum..... unless admin moves it into a developer forum....eh...eh?
thanks for any help you guys can provide.
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forgot..
solid wifi line.. go to the phones main settings, wifi, wifi settings(3 dots bottom right), advanced, disable scanning always available.
cm uses cm kernel. outdated is when a kernel is no longer good, a lower kernel number doesnt mean anything.
and this kind of post have no business being in development, no mod would ever even consider moving it there. development is for development, not questions that are very basic. you actually got the right forum.
Weird. As Sims said turn wifi scanning to off.
It could be a nightly issue with CM at the current moment, check there.
PS: There are other ROMs than just buying a phone and throwing cyanogen mod on it.
Good deal. Thanks guys.
I know I could put any ROM on a phone I used to have an s4 and did several ROMs with that. Then I had to send it in and they gave me one that was mf3 and I was just tired of jumping through hoops. But I put cm on mine because I getting away from full service and using strictly Google voice on a data only plan for cheaper service (Att is the best service overall where i am but their no contract sucks), and cm, so far, is the only one that has voice plus to integrate gv SMS into you native SMS app. That's my big thing. But if there's other ROMs at utilize voice+ I'm open to them.
I'm going to be of no help to you, but just to let you know, this is the correct forum. Nothing except something that you developed goes in development. Nothing. Questions and all other random things go in either Q&A or General.
I don't see you mention which charger you used. Wired? Stock charger and cable? The WiFi bar will be solid over night with your WiFi on and never intermittent.
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Yea after I was told to look at the WiFi settings, I changed some settings. But yes Its wired. I played around with the cable and it wiggles a bit but I didn't notice it disconnecting but I'll do More investigating on that front over the next few days.
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Justyn86 said:
Yea after I was told to look at the WiFi settings, I changed some settings. But yes Its wired. I played around with the cable and it wiggles a bit but I didn't notice it disconnecting but I'll do More investigating on that front over the next few days.
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Wiggle won't effect charge speed. Using a different adapter or cable then what came with your phone will effect charging speed however as well as the phone's current draw.
Well yea right. What I meant to say was that I may not be getting a solid connection, and if I had it sitting a certain way, it may not be charging at all, making appear as though the battery was draining "while charging" when it actually wasn't even charging. My biggest thing was that this is the first I've noticed it so. Maybe the cable is just crappy and is giving out. ( not the OE cable)
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Justyn86 said:
Well yea right. What I meant to say was that I may not be getting a solid connection, and if I had it sitting a certain way, it may not be charging at all, making appear as though the battery was draining "while charging" when it actually wasn't even charging. My biggest thing was that this is the first I've noticed it so. Maybe the cable is just crappy and is giving out. ( not the OE cable)
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Most likely it's just the cable then. You may be interested in the contents of this thread including a quick comparison video Bacon made.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2609087
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYkt4CeYuk&feature=youtu.be
Wow that's pretty impressive makes me want to get Motorola cable
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Turns out a combo of things. One being the cable with now power output. And the other was just being a cheap cable and was fitting in the port loosely and not maintaining a connection all the time. Thanks for the help.
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