[Q] May WiFi tethering damage the phone? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I've a question I cannot properly answer by myself. I've searched the web but I didn't find an exhaustive answer.
I wanna use my Nexus S as WiFi router during holiday, for about one month, several hours a day. I'm concerned to possible damage that this could cause to my phone, especially due to overheating and fast battery drain.
When I tested WiFi tethering I noticed, obviously, overheating and also battery drain.
Since the phone will be probably connected to wall charger while tethering (that causes overheating itself), could the excessive heat damage something, somehow? I think I'll underclock to embank it a little, but I'm still worried..
And also the continue charghing of the battery, beside overheat, could really damage it ? :silly:

gnaurittiello said:
Hi guys,
I've a question I cannot properly answer by myself. I've searched the web but I didn't find an exhaustive answer.
I wanna use my Nexus S as WiFi router during holiday, for about one month, several hours a day. I'm concerned to possible damage that this could cause to my phone, especially due to overheating and fast battery drain.
When I tested WiFi tethering I noticed, obviously, overheating and also battery drain.
Since the phone will be probably connected to wall charger while tethering (that causes overheating itself), could the excessive heat damage something, somehow? I think I'll underclock to embank it a little, but I'm still worried..
And also the continue charghing of the battery, beside overheat, could really damage it ? :silly:
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The battery may be degraded a little bit as a result of overheating. As for the rest of the hardware, I'm not sure what the effect is on that, shouldn't be a real issue I guess. You can try to cool your phone with an icepack underneath it or something? But why not just take a wifi router with you? or make us of Ad-hoc from the laptop?

kwibis said:
The battery may be degraded a little bit as a result of overheating. As for the rest of the hardware, I'm not sure what the effect is on that, shouldn't be a real issue I guess. You can try to cool your phone with an icepack underneath it or something? But why not just take a wifi router with you? or make us of Ad-hoc from the laptop?
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Yes, I thought about cooling the phone somehow, but it sounds weird :silly: Anyway, I'm on linux and the driver (iwl4695) of the wifi card on my laptop doesn't support AP-mode ( I need to connect more than one device to it), so I cannot use that. I would do this to avoid buying a brand new device such a MiFi, but I'm not still sure, but maybe it will be the best choice, (apart from the 50€, obviously :laugh: )

gnaurittiello said:
Yes, I thought about cooling the phone somehow, but it sounds weird :silly: Anyway, I'm on linux and the driver (iwl4695) of the wifi card on my laptop doesn't support AP-mode ( I need to connect more than one device to it), so I cannot use that. I would do this to avoid buying a brand new device such a MiFi, but I'm not still sure, but maybe it will be the best choice, (apart from the 50€, obviously :laugh: )
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They're not that expensive are they? Couple of years back bought a very cheap wifi router for 20 euros... still functioning :good:But good luck with your decision

kwibis said:
They're not that expensive are they? Couple of years back bought a very cheap wifi router for 20 euros... still functioning :good:But good luck with your decision
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Finally I opted for WiFi tethering. Battery is about 42-43 degrees, but it's fine for now. And it's also charging with USB, great. I'm posting this with my PC WiFi connected to the phone.:laugh:
BTW, if phone will die for this, nevermind, it will be a good reason for switch to Galaxy Nexus :silly:
Anyway, thanks for help.:good:
I ìll leave this unsolved, because even if I solved my own situation, it will be interesting read experiences of users using their phones as router for extended period of time. I'll post my own experience after holiday.

ive been using wifi tet. while on my last holiday for about a week, few hrs a day, never got warm/hot when unplugged from charger, although when on charge and i was streaming videos from net , phone was warm..
if ur phone is really hot while using wifi tet, try to reflash ur rom.

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Is this thing supposed to get burning hot?

Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?
I get the same thing, it gets really really really hot. When I use it as gps, or go online especially.
yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening
I cooked breakfast on mine this morning.
I put mine in my pocket... made myself sterile.
Brendo said:
yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening
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I've got a Fuze and it was white hot too. I took it back after about a week and just got a replacement. This new one is not heating up. Although now the problem I have with this one is the 3G connection is not as strong as it was before AND google maps doesn't work for sh!t!! I'm looking for a fix.
Marc
Sounds like your 3G isn't really connecting, make sure you try all the forum posts on enabling and forcing 3G/HSDPA connections. Whenever I run mine on 3G it becomes a nice little hand warmer. Force it down to GPRS and it's not hot and has a useless data connection (but good for when the battery is almost dead).
Brendo said:
yeah, its normal. never heard of it not happening
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Normal? Extreme heat in an electronic device is normal? I don't think so. If any device you have is getting warm enough to be of concern TAKE IT BACK AND EXCHANGE IT!
BTW - mine doesn't get hot. I can feel warmth if it's charging, for instance, but I wouldn't call it hot.
The Norm
thehyecircus said:
Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?
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Pretty much yes they do especially when using heavy power draining functions ie: Wifi, GPS, etc.
Some of the claims here of cooking breakfast, becoming sterile maybe slightly over the top and I have never been actually burnt by the device. But I have yet to use a HTC device that did not get hot when using the above functions for a period of time.
Just my experience and I certainly would not be using one if it boiled my nuts.
It´s not normal for a electonic device to become that hot, some heat is normal but not EXTREME HEAT!
Try flashing another radio and see if that helps, if not then you should send it back for repair!
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branko.savic said:
It´s not normal for a electonic device to become that hot, some heat is normal but not EXTREME HEAT!
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mmmm, ever put something made of plastic near the heat exhaust vent on your laptop?? Most modern electronic devices that are based on a CPU generate exteme heat that is why they have cooling, heat sinks, etc.
I'm certainly not going to get into an argument about this but the bottom line here is that they do generate certain levels of heat. It definately should not be enough to burn you though.
BlueAnt1958 said:
mmmm, ever put something made of plastic near the heat exhaust vent on your laptop?? Most modern electronic devices that are based on a CPU generate exteme heat that is why they have cooling, heat sinks, etc.
I'm certainly not going to get into an argument about this but the bottom line here is that they do generate certain levels of heat. It definately should not be enough to burn you though.
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Yes but a laptop has X amount more power then a phone! And you know, if the laptop didnt have a FAN to cool it down it would not last you even a few minutes!
However, our phones are designed without fans and are not supposed to get EXTREMLY HOT!
Let´s face it, no electronic device should get extremly hot, if it does then something is wrong, or something will be wrong with it soon!
Mine gets warm, but never hot even when using the GPS or wifi for over an hour. During a 20 minute telephone conversation it will get warm, but again not hot.
after 20 min of phone call, connected to wifi, on ac adapter, it got warm, never hot.
the hottest mine got was looking at vid porn via SkyFire browser. It looked really great... but oh man... the phone was sizzlin'.
Well I don't know if my phone is getting warm or hot. It's not an unpleasant warmth, just odd.
And Skyfire? I thought Opera Mobile was the preferred browser of choice.
My phone doesn't get extremely hot, mildly warm while surfing net over 3G, but that is it.
thehyecircus said:
Like, even just using it as a phone, it heats up. Is this normal?
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This is absolutely not normal and is one of the reasons i returned mine and went back to my Treo. I've used lots of high end phones and this is the first and only one that just starts toasting by itself when doing simple stuff.
Strange thing is that everyone i know with a T.P complains about the same thing. I could be watching Youtube for less than 5 mins and it starts boiling..what gives. I Youtube on my Treo (via Coreplayer) and it never gets hot.
I'd say this is a problem or issue with most of all T.Pro's. Sad really, such decent hardware specs.
I've also been experiencing heat coming from the back of the device, but only when I hold calls over around 15 minutes or if I'm using the internet extensively. I also notice it can create a good amount of heat when it charges. Usually when electronic devices have excessive heat it's due to a build up of dust.
LordLugard said:
This is absolutely not normal and is one of the reasons i returned mine and went back to my Treo. I've used lots of high end phones and this is the first and only one that just starts toasting by itself when doing simple stuff.
Strange this is that everyone i know with a T.P complains about the same thing. I could be watching Youtube for less than 5 mins and it starts boiling..what gives. I Youtube on my Treo (via Coreplayer) and it never gets hot.
I'd say this is a problem or issue with most of all T.Pro's. Sad really, such decent hardware specs.
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So what am I to think? I have a few guys telling me NO! And the rest of you saying "It's normal" and ONE guy saying he exchanged his in and his new one DOES NOT GET HOT AT ALL!!!
what the hell!! I have like two weeks until my 30 days is up.

Internet Sharing and battery drain

So...I use internet sharing as my primary source of internet as ?I am on the road a lot. Recently my phone has started to stop charging at some point while using internet sharing. I am trying to figure out why, the best I can find online is it is a heating issue and the phone stops charging at a certain temp. Should I keep it in my freezer at home wrapped in a cloth or something? Really annoying when I am working and the phone dies and I have to go out w/o a charge. Anyone know if it could be a radio issue? Thanks in advance,
votum said:
So...I use internet sharing as my primary source of internet as ?I am on the road a lot. Recently my phone has started to stop charging at some point while using internet sharing. I am trying to figure out why, the best I can find online is it is a heating issue and the phone stops charging at a certain temp. Should I keep it in my freezer at home wrapped in a cloth or something? Really annoying when I am working and the phone dies and I have to go out w/o a charge. Anyone know if it could be a radio issue? Thanks in advance,
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Its definitely a heating issue.
You can try different radios and see if that helps.
I have had some radios get my device really hot, compared to others.
Keep it by an AC vent or when it overheats, unplug it, cool it down and plug it back in.
what app are you using for internet share? im using the HTC Internet Sharing app that recently came out and i had the same experience BUT i figured that its because its using WIFI and also connected to data soo i believe its normal, what i find is that if u go on simple sites or use an IM without surfing the net, it wont overheat as quick, or if lucky it wont at all, the reason is the amount of data transferred to the phone then it transfers (via WIFI) it to the wireless pc at a fast rate which uses alot of CPU, which can be the blame for the over heat and mysterious non charge even if its connected to the charger...those some of the things thats causing ur problems, and btw yes sometimes keep it next to an AC, could lower down the temps a little bit

[Q] Average lifespan of a Android computer?

So I`m going to buy my first android PC and I was just wondering what is the average lifespan of these devices? I don't want the next scenario to happen: I buy a device it lasts for a month or two and then i through it in the trash....Don`t get me wrong for being worried... I mean there Made in China for crying out loud
I don't know for sure, or have any data to back it up, but i think with proper ventilation it should last until its outdated enough to warrant an upgrade to a newer model, especially considering their low cost.
take care of it and it should last for a long time.
if not overheat (overload) I think you can enjoy it long long time ... untill outdated rom of course
Most Android TV devices are small and does overheat quite alot and the wireless connection does seem to drop when the device gets hot due to the antenna
I have a mk808 and vizio v0320e and run power to it from USB port. It must be the Goldie lock zone of power. Had over 6 months with no problem of heat. I leave it plugged in that port 24/7.
Edit: the service mode USB on TV is what I mean by USB port
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Battery discharge while on charger

Using CM11 snapshot january update
I woke up late last night to see my phone still with the yellow charging light on while it was on the charger. i found that odd since it had been on the charger for almost 4 hours. i went to bed with it at 75% and when i went to the battery page it was at 50%. wierd thing is the graph says "3hr and 50 min on battery" but the line graph shows that its is, in fact, charging. another thing ive noticed is that the wifi line graph is solid, im not 100% sure its supposed to be intermittent, i.e. phone is sleeping and what not.
once i noticed that it was still discharging i looked at running apps, nothing outside what anyone else would have running at the end of the night. after i cleared the running apps it started charging again.
i know that i may have answered my own question at the end of the second paragraph but chargers put out more power than a phone can consume while being dormant so im trying to isolate a handful of things.
1. is the wifi line graph supposed to be solid all the time? (I didnt think so but)
2. is the rom im using (cm11 snapshot current update) on an outdated kernel?
3. whatever else that can brainstormed
and before i get a but of wrong forum reply's, i dont have a choice i need my 10 reply's to get this into the correct forum..... unless admin moves it into a developer forum....eh...eh?
thanks for any help you guys can provide.
Justyn86 said:
Using CM11 snapshot january update
I woke up late last night to see my phone still with the yellow charging light on while it was on the charger. i found that odd since it had been on the charger for almost 4 hours. i went to bed with it at 75% and when i went to the battery page it was at 50%. wierd thing is the graph says "3hr and 50 min on battery" but the line graph shows that its is, in fact, charging. another thing ive noticed is that the wifi line graph is solid, im not 100% sure its supposed to be intermittent, i.e. phone is sleeping and what not.
once i noticed that it was still discharging i looked at running apps, nothing outside what anyone else would have running at the end of the night. after i cleared the running apps it started charging again.
i know that i may have answered my own question at the end of the second paragraph but chargers put out more power than a phone can consume while being dormant so im trying to isolate a handful of things.
1. is the wifi line graph supposed to be solid all the time? (I didnt think so but)
2. is the rom im using (cm11 snapshot current update) on an outdated kernel?
3. whatever else that can brainstormed
and before i get a but of wrong forum reply's, i dont have a choice i need my 10 reply's to get this into the correct forum..... unless admin moves it into a developer forum....eh...eh?
thanks for any help you guys can provide.
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forgot..
solid wifi line.. go to the phones main settings, wifi, wifi settings(3 dots bottom right), advanced, disable scanning always available.
cm uses cm kernel. outdated is when a kernel is no longer good, a lower kernel number doesnt mean anything.
and this kind of post have no business being in development, no mod would ever even consider moving it there. development is for development, not questions that are very basic. you actually got the right forum.
Weird. As Sims said turn wifi scanning to off.
It could be a nightly issue with CM at the current moment, check there.
PS: There are other ROMs than just buying a phone and throwing cyanogen mod on it.
Good deal. Thanks guys.
I know I could put any ROM on a phone I used to have an s4 and did several ROMs with that. Then I had to send it in and they gave me one that was mf3 and I was just tired of jumping through hoops. But I put cm on mine because I getting away from full service and using strictly Google voice on a data only plan for cheaper service (Att is the best service overall where i am but their no contract sucks), and cm, so far, is the only one that has voice plus to integrate gv SMS into you native SMS app. That's my big thing. But if there's other ROMs at utilize voice+ I'm open to them.
I'm going to be of no help to you, but just to let you know, this is the correct forum. Nothing except something that you developed goes in development. Nothing. Questions and all other random things go in either Q&A or General.
I don't see you mention which charger you used. Wired? Stock charger and cable? The WiFi bar will be solid over night with your WiFi on and never intermittent.
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Yea after I was told to look at the WiFi settings, I changed some settings. But yes Its wired. I played around with the cable and it wiggles a bit but I didn't notice it disconnecting but I'll do More investigating on that front over the next few days.
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Justyn86 said:
Yea after I was told to look at the WiFi settings, I changed some settings. But yes Its wired. I played around with the cable and it wiggles a bit but I didn't notice it disconnecting but I'll do More investigating on that front over the next few days.
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Wiggle won't effect charge speed. Using a different adapter or cable then what came with your phone will effect charging speed however as well as the phone's current draw.
Well yea right. What I meant to say was that I may not be getting a solid connection, and if I had it sitting a certain way, it may not be charging at all, making appear as though the battery was draining "while charging" when it actually wasn't even charging. My biggest thing was that this is the first I've noticed it so. Maybe the cable is just crappy and is giving out. ( not the OE cable)
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Justyn86 said:
Well yea right. What I meant to say was that I may not be getting a solid connection, and if I had it sitting a certain way, it may not be charging at all, making appear as though the battery was draining "while charging" when it actually wasn't even charging. My biggest thing was that this is the first I've noticed it so. Maybe the cable is just crappy and is giving out. ( not the OE cable)
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Most likely it's just the cable then. You may be interested in the contents of this thread including a quick comparison video Bacon made.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2609087
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYkt4CeYuk&feature=youtu.be
Wow that's pretty impressive makes me want to get Motorola cable
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Turns out a combo of things. One being the cable with now power output. And the other was just being a cheap cable and was fitting in the port loosely and not maintaining a connection all the time. Thanks for the help.
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Android 4.4.2 Improvements...?

Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
The sound of the speaker is average! It's a hardware thing, no software update can change it.. If you want some boost, you will need to root it and install a sound mod like Viper4android...
No wifi signal dropouts here. Whaatttttt??? The screen on this beast is a real BEAUT!
The camera is pretty good and can manage decent shots.
gino_76ph said:
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
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Never had wifi problem, speaker is easily fixed and they addressed it in 4.4.2, my screen is perfect, and my camera is perfect.
This nice man made a volume boost mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
and this nice man made a camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
gino_76ph said:
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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Rooting and stuff is not technical at all, it requires little to no knowledge. Just read the guide threads..
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
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Hi,
You can unroot and go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
As for viruses and bugs, it's not the root that can cause that but more what you will do after rooting your device... There is no bug, at least no more than a non rooted device, with only rooting your device. It's only if you modify some files system, flash something not stable, or the wrong file and so on. If you install a "crappy" or cracked app with root access (and allow it without know what it does), yes maybe you can encounter some bugs or viruses. It's on the user side...
I have not rooted my phone and it's perfect, i have no complaints whatsoever. I keep refraining myself from rooting tho because of gravitybox, my geeky side keeps telling me to root but i don't right now because i don't need it, but i will definitely do it after a year or something (knowing myself).
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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When using Fastboot and ADB its commands so there is no chance of bugs or viruses.modding is what XDA is all about.
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I could maybe try rooting my device one day. But until then i'm happy with normal updates.
I have been reading about the "fiasco" of 4.4.1 and i just think that Google sometimes don't listen to end-user complaints too quickly and they would rather sit back and wait till the complaints are a mountain high (with the same issues attached to it) until they act.
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
gino_76ph said:
Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Hi,
Here: [PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos...
ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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I have been hearing somewhat conflicting comments that the 4.4.2 camera still has more space for improvements. It can sometimes bring oversaturatedness, greyness, haziness and still weak in the low-light department.
Another issue i heard is the battery seems still not convincingly and dramatically improved from the last time. 3G & 4G signal seems also not perfect. What i mean is if the phone comes from a 3G to a 4G area the phone either reboots itself, turns itself off or would take time to "reconfigure" its software to know that its in a strong 4G signal. Am i making sense?
Is there any truth to this?
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Is there any truth to this?
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Not with respect to my phone.
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
5Hi,
In my opinion stop the "I heard someone" or "some are saying" and jump the train...
4.4.2 is way better than 4.4/4.4.1 (and yes I ran stock rom in the past ).
About Android usage in battery stats is already discussed here, I mean in this Q&A forum, I have not it, like almost 90% (or more) users, it's on the user side (whatever some other users tends to think). It can happen on 4.4/4.4.1 too... but since a minority of users are still on this version and the updates have been quick, nobody still speak about it.
Wi-Fi crashes, phone turn OFF by itself (on full stock?) it's also a very large minority on stock (I would say never), it could be due to the user too, no?
High battery drain in idle-> mostly user side (rogue app for example). Ans so on...
Don't mixe what your read about some problems between stock rom and custom rom/kernel/mods...., in my opinion (and I'm not alone) all you read is nothing, biased feedback due to some users who don't know how use their phones, install xx and xy apps and after that they are complaining about battery life, bugs and so on
Battery heat (or CPU?), what is heat for you or for the guy who said that? I any case there is thermal throttle to prevent any dammage and you are running a quadcore CPU (with a max CPU freq at 2,26 GHz ) enclosed without thermal cooling so in certain circumstances expect some heat...
If you are not still convinced, hum... don't do anything
Test and see by yourself, sometimes it will be better than read something here and there... . I'm not saying that you are "reported" is false but nonestly it's mostly ******, at least like I said it's not about 4.4.2 itself but user side.
That being said you seem a user easily influenced by some things read or heard here and there, maybe you'll be more influenced by the replies in your thread
gino_76ph said:
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
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I have not experienced any of these issues when I was on stock for a week. I suggest you go buy the nexus 5 and return it if you don't like it then try the G2 if you really want amazing battery life. But I assure you, once you experience Nexus, you'll go back to Nexus.
Well, for one thing i had a Nexus 4 and i had to return/sell it because of so many issues. And those same issues have again cropped-up in the stock Nexus 5 4.4/4.4.1/4.4.2. Sounds familiar?
Yes it's true it "could be" a minority who have the same issues but its STILL a minority and its STILL the same issues. It's either the users fault or the phone itself. Yes it could be malicious/battery-draining apps or a ROM that has some bugs, etc. But in the past 6 months i have not heard of a "minority" of HTC One or Galaxy S3/S4 users that have the same issues. Have you? It does tell you something about how the phone was made and how Google pushes its updates.
I know and i'm well aware that the only thing to do is to actually try one. But what if if i try one, got the same problems, do a factory reset, still same problems, have to return/sell the thing and so on. Its such a hassle. That is why i am looking for answers and reviews/comments here. And i truly appreciate all your insights. I really do.
Call me fuzzy or overly-careful. I'm not looking for a "perfect" Google Nexus phone. I just want a phone (and Android phone as such) that works.
Again, as i said i'm not overly worried about the camera because a phone camera can & will never replace a proper one.My other concern is the 4.4.2 battery life. My Nexus 4's battery life was near atrocious. Could not tell you how long (or short) it's battery life is thats is why i got rid of it. But if a number of issues come up with the same battery life issue and battery getting warmer then am i to worry?
My typical day is get up at 6AM, remove the charger on my phone (if it was charged overnight), turn it off or turn the wifi off whilst i have my shower, get on the bus and the train, turn on my mobile data then checking the morning news/weather/notes/Twitter, get on to my work and keep my mobile data (and everything else like wifi, bluetooth, NFC...you know) turned off, turn on my data again for my 30-minute lunch and turn it off when back to my afternoon shift, going back home i listen to some music (a typical journey lasts around 45 minutes) whilst at the same time checking out some tech news on Appy Geek, when i'm at home i turn off my mobile data and connect to my home wifi (kept On till until i wake up again the next morning) whilst in-between supper & shower & bed i check Twiiter again, Instagram, couple of Youtube videos, email, playing a game which would last maybe 30-60 minutes max and that's it. I sleep around 11PM and wake up again around 6AM.
My questions are:
1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
The area where i live, where i travel and my work place hasn't got a strong 4G signal. I have no problems with my home broadband/wifi as i typically have a very fast and stable connection. So...
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Thanks peeps.
gino_76ph said:
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1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
Based on how you use your phone, not really. Unless there's a hardware defect.
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
For me, no. I once tried one and it didn't help at all. But there's no harm in trying.
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
A few weeks ago I did some heavy gaming for an hour and the phone was really warm, but I still got >5hrs SoT at the end of the day before charging again.
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
Yes the battery life is somewhat improved; but what I experienced was that it improves when I stay in the same ROM for some days, and I charge it overnight when the battery is less than 5%.
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
In my opinion (and experience), yes.
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Here's a thread you can analyze: Nexus 5 Battery Results

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