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The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
Overall the new Touch Flo 3D is giving you the ability to get to the applications you use the most a lot quicker then what we can do now. The device is no more powerful then our 1st Gen devices as far as storage capacity is concerned and uses the same processors, so it should be non issue for them to roll out an update to our software.
Everyone should be going to http://www.htc.com and petitioning them starting now, requesting that they make the new Touch Flo 3D software available to us 1st Gen owners.
My phone is not even a month old, and to see them fix what is broken about the current gen software and not offer it to us would be flat out wrong. Even Apple offered the new software to their customers for just a nominal fee of $20, which eventually dropped down to $10.
I wish we could get a petition going and send it to them voicing how we feel. While I know people have been making mods to get this function on the current phones, this is a time where we need to make HTC step up and do what is right.
If you agree please keep bumping this, it would act as a petition of sorts. Maybe you could even do a poll on this subject??
I called my own wambulance already so I don't need another one...thanks !! =) lol....honestly though, everyone should feel as strongly about this being addressed by HTC as I do.
Petition? why when someone will port it over...plus from my experience with my kaiser...i dont think they care much to petition.....
Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
Will it port over? I would prefer to not mess with the ROM in anyway, this is an area that kind of worries me..can't afford to brick my phone...or is this something that would not have bearing on that? I don't know exactly how all this works, but that functionality would surely be ideal. Does HTC really not care about customer service? I have not dealt with them directly for anything yet.
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Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
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Is this a cooked ROM install that I would have to do or a .CAB that you just run?....Thanks.
I strongly agree that they should have an upgrade for us, but I don't think they really care, this is how they make money, they put out the newest stuff and don't have upgrades for the old stuff so it urges you to buy the new phone
then why not just charge all of us 1st gen owners $10-$20 for the software and allow us to upgrade to it? They would make a ton of cash off doing that, on top of the sales from the new phone. This is exactly what Apple did when they upgraded to the next gen of their phones, it was smart of them to do it and brilliant from a customer relations standpoint.
I guess I could just return my current phone and get something else temporarily until that comes out, since I bought it online and it is not even 30 days old...but I would rather keep this phone if it is possible and just get the functions of the new Touch Flo 3D.
Don't sweat it, when it gets out someone will port it and make it installable with a cab...no worries. HTC really doesn't care much for the end user, they proved that with the Kaiser drivers.
htc does not give a sh*t and frankly i don't care... at the moment they have, IMHO, the best + tweaks phone for me. once i see a better phone somewhere else i will buy that phone.... i just hope this time they hard coded all of the hardware buttons so i can't remap any of them .... @ the person who made that decision.... and i quote
"go fu*k yourself"
**** Cheney
I thought that Diamond TF3D Configurator did a lot of those things. You can use it to remove unused tabs and to re-order them. You can also use it to re-order the programs in the program tab pretty easily. I'm also pretty sure that there are cabs out there that allow you to add some more shortcuts to the program tab. Personally, I don't really like loading more than 9, because scrolling down is a little tricky (it's easy to launch a program in the first 9 by mistake).
Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
This is what he suggested to me so I can get more tabs etc..:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I like my phone a lot and in most ways it is a step up from my HTC Mogul...but the lack of dedicated hard keys is taking a lot of getting use to, so some extra tabs would help get to those features faster.
Unfortunately not all of us are as comfortable as others when it comes to understanding how to install or deal with cooked ROM's. If it is all .CAB file installs then that I can deal with, no way can I afford to brick a $300+ phone that I just got on a 2 year contract.
I just wanna make my phone as quick and user friendly as I can without worrying about all this "bricking" I hear can happen if a custom ROM install goes bad on you.
Thanks again all....Bruce.
the only thing thats really new is the landscape tf3d has all the tabs now including home screen music and all that it looks like
that alone is awesome but yes of course it will port over
i believe 6.5 requires a windows key too so that might be an issue
We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.
dont even stress it guys we all know someone will port it and probably make it better...i do hear u on htc at least giving the upgrade for 1st gen users but oh well. such is life in business
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We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.
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forget about 6.5? if you look in the roms section 6.5 is already on the touch pro
yeah, either way even if they don't not going to sweat it. I keep hearing that the Palm Pre might be released next month, and that device has really got my interest. If Palm does their applications store right to compete against the iPhone (keeping most applications free-$2) then it really has a chance to be a great phone.
They added the ability for it to support Flash today, also does copy/paste and a whole bunch of other features look promising. The keyboard is not as nice as other devices out there, but setting that aside all the previews for it have been really good so far.
So many choices lol.....anyone know if this is a "cooked ROM"?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I think this might do what I am looking for, but if I have to mess with the ROM then I'll skip it...not out to brick my phone if something goes bad with the install.
Thanks all for your replies.
why are you so afraid to flash a rom? theres like 3 steps to it and pretty much impossible to brick it now it makes the phone so much better
Petitioning won't do anything but waste time. HTC will not listen.
I have been looking for a clear set of instructions on it that I am comfortable with is all. If you can tell me where to find a good set of instructions I really have been looking to give this a try. It's not something I have ever done before and I keep seeing people say in their posts that it might brick your phone.
I have been using the PHM Registry Edit program, but only for the most basic of stuff. So far nothing has gone wrong there thankfully. I also have the Advanced Configuration Tool version 3.3 with some of the stock settings changed.
Some of the mods out there look great. I just want 1 page that tells me everything as clearly as possible how to set my phone up for flashing to different ROM's and any additional software I might need.
If I have to get the phone serviced for any reason I will also need the ability to restore back to the stock Sprint HTC Touch Pro ROM. (signed?).
Thanks !! ....Bruce.
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Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
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Um, I was just responding to this:
gameday22 said:
The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
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You seemed to want to know how to re-organize your TF3D tabs. I gave you a link to an app that allows you to do this. All you need to do is download and install the cab. Try it out, you might like it.
I have a dilemma, im on my second fuze (first one had ear piece speaker problems, but flashed back to stock rom and SPL and did a warranty claim so that was no problem), now this one is having a problem where the PTT button must be shorted out or something because no matter what i do (hard reset, soft reset, take battery and sim card out) it keeps opening the comm manager and also the camera, and continues to shoot pictures untill i shut the stupid thing off. has anyone had this problem with the ptt button sticking? I cant send it in for another warranty claim because i have HardSPL on it and the newest NRG Rom, with the ptt button being constantly on i am not able to use the phone at all and can not flash everything back to stock to send it in.
any help would be appreciated, thanks guys
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
piff
misfitwrx said:
edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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lol
if you buy a (h)iphone with problem you will just do the same?
why didnt you just bought the (h)iphone at once? if you say that now...
WE HAVE internet, and you should know about things.. i have my tpro about months and didnt touch it about flashing new roms before i know everthing about...
Go and buy an iPhone. Maybe a 3G @$$ one...
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edit mods, go ahead and delete this thread. i just ripped this piece of crap in half gonna toss it in the trash and get an iphone. Im done with winmo. i am sick of spending 90% of my time flashing roms and hunting for software. that doesnt even really do anything except make more like an iphone anyway
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
You could flash a different rom via the microSD.
Download the rom you want to flash and locate the .NBH file. If its a shipped/stock rom, you'll have to extract it form the .exe.
Rename the .nbh file to RAPHIMG.NBH and copy it to the root of your storage card
Put your device in bootloader mode and it should prompt you if you want to flash your device.
Best of luck
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This doesn't insult or upset anyone here. You are free to do as you want. One of the advantage of windows mobile is the vast amount of customization, which sometimes runs you into an issue or two.
Best of luck
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Customization, many freeware apps that are very good. As a professional who interfaces with many clients, my TP has been kept stock, only adding apps that I need. I have had mine about 4 months of flawless usage. Like any windows os's, if you don't know what you are doing, or install/uninstall lots of apps, you will run into problems.
As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
Bruce Inman said:
As the French say "faites gaffe"
But if you want to fry an egg on your iPhone, there IS an ap for that.....
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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Actually, there has been MULTIPLE reports of that happening. Starting from old iPods to iPhones and iPod touch(s?)
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Obviously.
sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
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sorry boys, i know id get flamed for thinking of buying an iphone. however now having bought one i dont think ill look back. yeah winmo is fun because you can customize the hell out of it but from my 3 years of using it thats about all it is good for. if you look at 90% of the apps for winmo all they do is try and make up for winmos shortcomings. i just picked up a iphone 3gs, and the camera is ten times better than my fuze was, not to mention the video recording is absolutely amazing for a phone. i actually enjoy web browsing on this phone, the messaging and mail app is very intuitive. and the gps locks instantly (big plus for me) as far as customizing the iphone there is always jailbreaking it which when you think about it is not that dissimilar than hardspl'ing a winmo phone. im not bashing winmo i actually enjoyed using and still do on my x51v but when i want to pull out my phone and check facebook or write a note or snap a quick pic or video the iphone is hands down better than any winmo phone i have ever used.
p.s. by the way forget frying an egg on the iphone, i could grill a steak on my fuze when it was using any amount of data
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I couldn't seem to find any pictures of an atomic Fuze, but plenty o'pics of the fried iPhones.
To each their own. Enjoy!
dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
misfitwrx said:
dont get me wrong i really did enjoy using the fuze and windows mobile and actually would love to have both devices, but its silly to just blindly hate the iphone for no good reason. it kinda reminds me of the ford chevy mopar feud lol. everyone hates the other ones but when you actually drive all three you notice they arent that different at all
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Yes, driving them seems similar but when things break and you need to fix it, that's when things become clear.
And you're right, to blindly hate is pointless.
I am just anti-apple period because of their all-exclusive devices and OS'.
I hated my Fuze out of the box but eventually I was able to make it do what I wanted and needed. Its that freedom that makes me appreciate WinMo, bugs and all.
And let's face it, even the iPhone has had it's share of issues out of the box, which is supposed to be their claim to fame....
Again, to each their own. No one's flaming you for your choice.
but.....
Chevy Rules!
one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
misfitwrx said:
one thing i dont get is why people say the iphone is so locked down, really jailbreaking is just the same as hardspling a winmo phone, same warranty void and same endless options to modify the phone
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I guess, but I get to keep my cheapo 15 dollar unlimited data package and I get to tether with it and you dont.
Haha and theres a couple things the fuze stock can do that the iphone cant.
1. MMS
2. FM Radio
3. Flashlight
4. Download songs off the web (MP3's)
5. Send and receive files and voice clips in Windows Live Messenger (MSN)
I'm missing some others but I'm sure it goes both ways. Although I got to say Opera 9.7 beta on turbo mode beats the iPhone 3GS surfing the web hands down. Super blazing fast.
I created a GTX boot splash and decided to share it in the ✰✰✰✰ Everything GTX ✰✰✰✰ thread. Since it was made for the HD2 I thought I would reference it here. The direct post is HERE
I will take any requests for boot splash screens GTX style or not if you upload a 480 x 800 image for me I will create the NBH.
take it theres nobody interested in a custom boot splash screen?
I'm fine thanks, but on a completely unrelated question... What was ****e about the k750i? I kinda loved Sony Ericssons back then, and I used that phone a lot. On days when my HD2 annoys me, I sometimes think back to it
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I'm fine thanks, but on a completely unrelated question... What was ****e about the k750i? I kinda loved Sony Ericssons back then, and I used that phone a lot. On days when my HD2 annoys me, I sometimes think back to it
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It was ok at first like most SEs but then the problems. The d-pad stick became really un responsive, I had to really mash it to get it to select a word while texting. One day the keypad seemed to completely 're-wire' itself as in my phone crashed one day and when I went to type in my PIN code random things like 1 went to the right and 6 deleted backwords in other words it ended up blocking my SIM card. Then after I got my PUK code started working again. Then few weeks later it died completely. Im not having SEs ever again. My wife had a w810i that randomly died. When I learnt about flashing etc I managed t fix her c902 when it randomly lost its entire file structure. Have had t do the same to a friends c902 and again for someones c905. I find they just seem to destroy themselves in general SEs.
By far the best phone (or at least my fondest memories) are of the Nokia 7610. Amazing phone and it had multi tasking which i really missed with the SE. Rant over
Haha thanks for the reply, wow that sounds like a bad build of phone. I found mine (I went through about four of that generation) got battered after about a year but generally held up, and I lovd their music players and cameras, although not much else However they were still my favourite type of phones until the HD/HD2 came out - I'm still not a giant fan of typing on touchscreens, although I think that's down to the HD2's particularly awful out-of-the-box texting client. (I can't stand iPhones, but if I touch one I always open the keyboard and find I can rattle along with no problems)
I'm interested in an alternative boot screen... however haven't a clue what I want as yet lol
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I'm interested in an alternative boot screen... however haven't a clue what I want as yet lol
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Well let me know when you decide. U sound like my wife not knowing what ya want LOL
Im looking for a new slash screen...so intrested in this.
Keep it plain and simple!
Maybe remove the GTX (but keep the styling?)
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Im looking for a new slash screen...so intrested in this.
Keep it plain and simple!
Maybe remove the GTX (but keep the styling?)
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I'm not the worlds best with a graphics editor but i will try. i was mainly just going to convert existing images into nbh's. However what are you after? the same as the one i have done without the GTX logo? what colours do you want background and text. if you have an image already post it here and i can convert it.
Because of all of the issues about the Captivate S I've read about on this forum, I've decided not to purchase one. I travel a lot (read GSM/UMTS) and need an unlocked handset for local numbers. I also depend on GPS navigation that isn't functional on the Galaxy S.
Goodbye Android, hello Symbian ^3 in the form of a Nokia N8 I just ordered.
I really appreciate the good info I got from this forum. Next year I'll again consider an Android handset.
And Symbian dont have ANY problems? That is hard to believe.
ha great choice, not.
To each his own I suppose... have you tried using the Captivate? I have a feeling with even all the supposed negatives, it still blows any Nokia away. The GPS isn't a big deal for me and I'm sure a sim unlock is just a call to ATT away (I've called and asked for 3 unlock codes for an LG and two blackberries just last year).
The problem with coming to this type of board for the kind of advise you're seeking on getting a new phone is, a lot of people complain about the negatives. People are seeking out fixes or mods for this issue or that.
To be fair, I'm not a big fan of Nokia or Symbian. I owned a 5800 XM and it was pretty horrible and the N8 or Symbian ^3 doesn't really do it for me. The apps are sorely lacking, messaging and email left a lot to be desired. I'll probably get another iPhone 4, jailbreak it and run ultrasn0w baseband unlock so I can use international sim cards before going with the Nokia again.
I can tell you from personal experience that one of the better phones from Nokia in the past 3 years is the e71.
The n81 is a very cheap feeling phone, and you'll hate the buttons. The n82 is good, but only has european 3g.
n95 is still a beast of a phone, and the 8gb model is nice.
You should be looking at the n8 if you really want to go with symbian, or wait for their S-Series to come out running MeeGo!
And it is not symbian^3, it is just s60.
Go to any forum for any phone and you will see hundreds of negative posts, but most issues don't effect most people.
I have not had the gps issues or many other problems. Also, the users with no problems never post.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
alphadog00 said:
Go to any forum for any phone and you will see hundreds of negative posts, but most issues don't effect most people.
I have not had the gps issues or many other problems. Also, the users with no problems never post.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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thats a good point. ne way his loss. I question the purpose of this thread though, what exactly was the intention here?
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Because of all of the issues about the Captivate S I've read about on this forum, I've decided not to purchase one. I travel a lot (read GSM/UMTS) and need an unlocked handset for local numbers. I also depend on GPS navigation that isn't functional on the Galaxy S.
Goodbye Android, hello Symbian ^3 in the form of a Nokia N8 I just ordered.
I really appreciate the good info I got from this forum. Next year I'll again consider an Android handset.
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Wow. I used the GPS tweak on this forum and my Captivate has been rock solid since the tweak! I use the Google navigation all the freaking time! By the way, the Google navigation is > the ATT Navigation (AKA Telenav) & it's free!! Sorry to hear you didn't utilize the level of detail available to you. Good luck with the Nokia.
returned my captivate for an iphone 4 today...i wanted to love this phone and it just didn't work out. today was real bad and i had enough of it. it was lagging really badly, it would take 10-15 seconds to open an app, screen froze up for a good 30 seconds, and phone wouldn't turn on from being locked. gps is still an issue, even with the tweaks...it takes 15-30 seconds to lock on which is not good enough for me. The music player is terrible, its very sluggish and theres no set program to transfer music/videos/whatever onto the phone. It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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returned my captivate for an iphone 4 today...i wanted to love this phone and it just didn't work out. today was real bad and i had enough of it. it was lagging really badly, it would take 10-15 seconds to open an app, screen froze up for a good 30 seconds, and phone wouldn't turn on from being locked. gps is still an issue, even with the tweaks...it takes 15-30 seconds to lock on which is not good enough for me. The music player is terrible, its very sluggish and theres no set program to transfer music/videos/whatever onto the phone. It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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Wow..... Seems like you had a "special" captivate.
Wow, I'm just really surprised that you researched some Captivate problems but didn't bother to research all of Symbians problems.
The biggest problem not having as much features as any Android phone does.
I've been happy with my Captivate, and it does everything I need it to do and a lot of times it does more than I need it to.
I even save $15 a month with free SMS with google voice. Picasa syncs and saves all my pics to my phone from my PC, and so does my calender.
Captiate has been the best phone I have ever had.
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Wow..... Seems like you had a "special" captivate.
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nope. mine was starting to get to that point and then did a factory reset and the phone is blazing again. I think it was all the apps because i felt like some apps like apndroid didnt uninstall right(yes i know i gotta enable b4 uninstalling).
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nope. mine was starting to get to that point and then did a factory reset and the phone is blazing again. I think it was all the apps because i felt like some apps like apndroid didnt uninstall right(yes i know i gotta enable b4 uninstalling).
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i also did factory reset...it didn't help. i might have had a defective captivate maybe idk, but im the type of guy that likes it simple and get it done, with the captivate you have to do a lot of tweaks and stuff like that, until it gets fixed atleast. i was disappointed when i had to return the phone...i really wanted to like and i thought it was the phone i was gonna keep for a long time when i first got it.
Your experience hardly reflects the average user experience with this phone though....i love mine and so do a lot of people...sorry to hear about your issues but maybe you should have gotten a replacement or do you really think all the people praising it are just putting up with all the stuff you experienced?
I've used message boards for years. I've even adminned a few, and I still maintain my own small one. And I still don't understand why people start threads based on this kind of pap, other than to draw attention to themselves either for self-aggrandizement or to make martyrs of themselves.
In either case, I don't care. I'm not here to find out what phone anyone uses or why, nor do I care about the second-hand opinions that fuel those decisions. All I care about is learning more about the experiences of others with the one I've chosen in an effort to both expand my own experience with it and to share likewise.
I agree with not buying the captivate, I would have gone with a Nexus One or a Dell Streak though.
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Your experience hardly reflects the average user experience with this phone though....i love mine and so do a lot of people...sorry to hear about your issues but maybe you should have gotten a replacement or do you really think all the people praising it are just putting up with all the stuff you experienced?
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i admit, i think most captivates are fine but i also think there are plenty of users that are willing to put up with the problems of this phone, i wasn't one of those users though. those users that are willing to put up with this phone are hoping that samsung will come out with a fix for it and who knows when that is and whether that even fixes the problem. Like froyo, i hardly doubt it will come in September. I'm not going to sit and wait for that to happen when i can get a phone (iphone) that works flawlessly and can perform the same core functions as a captivate. i gave this phone a try and didn't work out, it's simple as that.
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I've used message boards for years. I've even adminned a few, and I still maintain my own small one. And I still don't understand why people start threads based on this kind of pap, other than to draw attention to themselves either for self-aggrandizement or to make martyrs of themselves.
In either case, I don't care. I'm not here to find out what phone anyone uses or why, nor do I care about the second-hand opinions that fuel those decisions. All I care about is learning more about the experiences of others with the one I've chosen in an effort to both expand my own experience with it and to share likewise.
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Yet you take the time to vent on other people expressing their opinions. Whats the difference from the man telling us why he dosent like the phone, vs. You telling us why you dont like the thread?
kashc2 said:
It took me an hour just to transfer 300 songs over to the captivate...wtf. android market wasn't that great, the facebook app was terrible for it btw. there are some good points to the phone, it has nice widgets, swype, camera, and videos are amazing on this. i blame samsung, they pushed this phone out before it was ready, if they had waited and fixed the problems it would've clearly blown iphone out of the water.
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Looking at your complaints, seems to me that your biggest problem is that you never got off the Apple tit, and don't know how to live without iTunes.
The rest of the issues you listed have easy fixes found on this very forum.
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Obvious Troll is Obvious...
After 6+ years with a Windows Smart Phone (1st MPX220) I see the platform is dead and I have to go elsewhere. I am thinking of going to the Captivate. I like the new BB also but I am not sure if I want a crack berry. I think the Captivate will be more fun to have in the long run.
The cheapest I can find the phone with a 2 extention and keeping my old plan is Best Buy for $149 plus a $30 one time credit to my account.
I am wondering how to get I get all my texts and info from my old phone to my new phone. I have used PPCPIMbackup when doing firmware updates to my phone to back up all my info. Does this work with Captivate also? I am not sure because of the different OS.
I have never had a phone with out a keypad. This will be new for me. I wish I could have a phone with one. I see having a nice slim phone will also be nice. I think the keyless pads is how all phones exept for BB will be very soon.
Does anyone have any good tips or information before I go over to this phone? I know going from a Windows phone to this is going to be very different.
Thanks,
Swype makes everything all good.
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I'm using the xda app so can't see your sig, what phone are you coming from? I've used winmo for about 2 yrs and love this phone. Not sure how to copy things over, seen alot of posts with problems. Best I've seen is manually enter em in google and sync that way. I just used my sim card. Didn't have a bunch of special contact info to copy.
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I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
Anyone know if the PPCPIMbackup software will work on getting my old texts to my new phone?
veener79 said:
I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
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I also migrated from the Epix... you will not be sorry. With regard to your question about transfering texts, generally anything is possible in Android, and a quick google search confirms this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=transfer+texts+from+windows+mobile+to+android&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=
veener79 said:
I am coming form the Samsung Epix.
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I gave up on my Epix. Were you one of the lucky ones?
The Captivate is a wonderful phone, if you don't mind waiting for a GPS fix.
My own experience: I was concerned about the lack of a physical keyboard, but found that swype makes things easy. However, I am more frustrated that I expected at the lack of really good business applications in android (I am waiting for Pocket Informant android, specifically). Also, if you use Outlook, you may have some frustration with syncing.
There is certainly no android phone to compare on ATT.
Thank you for the link. Looking over this site the only issues I see is with GPS on this phone. Is that about correct? Also it looks like it will get the 2.2 upgrade?
Kanzeon said:
I gave up on my Epix. Were you one of the lucky ones?
The Captivate is a wonderful phone, if you don't mind waiting for a GPS fix.
My own experience: I was concerned about the lack of a physical keyboard, but found that swype makes things easy. However, I am more frustrated that I expected at the lack of really good business applications in android (I am waiting for Pocket Informant android, specifically). Also, if you use Outlook, you may have some frustration with syncing.
There is certainly no android phone to compare on ATT.
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After ATT sent me my 4th or 5th phone I was doing better because it did not have the ID1 update. I kept on using firmware updates from this site to make the phone better. After the 6.5 update came out and the phone still was not right I gave up. GPS is still a issue but not like ID1. My texts and e-mail keep on crashing on it. I have not been able to update my hotmail via Live for over a week. Every time I close out of my texts it locks ups for about 20sec to a minute or two. I have finaly given up. Now my battery is only lasting about 2 days on standby. After about 1 hour long call I go though about 40% battery. I am just happy I can start doing a upgrade now.
I just hope the GPS fix comes soon for this new phone.
veener79 said:
Thank you for the link. Looking over this site the only issues I see is with GPS on this phone. Is that about correct? Also it looks like it will get the 2.2 upgrade?
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Yes, GPS is not fully functional at this point, but it appears that Samsung is working on correcting the problem. 2.2 is in the works, but no word yet on when it will be released for the Captivate... best estimates seem to shoot for 1-2 months from now.
The gps works well for me with the update. It just takes longer than what I was used to wth the iphone. I get a solid lock in 30 seconds.
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The gps works well for me with the update. It just takes longer than what I was used to wth the iphone. I get a solid lock in 30 seconds.
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Excuse me, *for some*, GPS is not fully functional.
For the most part the captivate is great. Just needs a little bit of tweaking here and there. Gps is pretty much b0rked at the moment. Til Samsung gives us an actual fix. Or we find one. Gps can lock somtimes but it will jump around a lot or lose the fix. Navigation wont work for the most part. Aside from that the phone captivate is a great choice.
OK so the GPS sounds about as good as my epix right now. I can not even get a GPS signal in the car unless I have it on the dash with nothing blocking it. If all it takes is 30 seconds to lock on I will be set. That is better then the Epix. What is up with Samsung and the GPS.
veener79 said:
...What is up with Samsung and the GPS.
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Nobody knows for sure. Some speculate it is hardware and won't be fixed. Most of us feel it is software. It supposedly works for some people, but those that can't get it to work are dubious that the ones that work are just not hitting the right circumstances for it to fail. It actually seems to be accurate a high percentage of the time, but when it is off, it is waaaaayyyyy off. Sometimes only for a few seconds. Very inconsistent.
Samsung has indicated it will be fixed in September. Not much time left for them on that commitment.
If they don't make it by then, there will be lots of whining and griping. I'll be doing that in my mind, but plan to refrain from doing so in the forum The GPS problem is probably the single largest issue that has caused a lot of threads, and several contentious posts.
It is a great phone. Hopefully the GPS issue will have true resolution very soon.
I switched from a moto Q. To a samsung jack, used a epix for a bit as well. Got this phone a few weeks ago and have not regretted it for a second. Android and win mobile 6.5 are not even close enough to compare.
Also swype beats out any virtual or physical keypad I have ever used.
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I'd SERIOUSLY wait 2 months until the Windows Phone 7 devices are out. I was at MSFT this week and got to play with a dev model for a few minutes, it does seem pretty nice. It will all really depend on what apps are available.
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I'd SERIOUSLY wait 2 months until the Windows Phone 7 devices are out. I was at MSFT this week and got to play with a dev model for a few minutes, it does seem pretty nice. It will all really depend on what apps are available.
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My impression, personally, was that windows mobile seemed like it was as locked down as the iphone, but without all of the iphone's features and polish. In short, It seemed like the worst of both worlds. The only thing I that it has going for itself is the nice looking homescreens. That is just my initial impression though and I hope I'm wrong.
You can see my list of phones in my SIG and I know my thing when it comes to HTC and WinMo.... all those phones in that list, were me trying to find a device that ran...well.... the way my Captivate does. Even with fat thumbs I can still type on the software keyboard... I go back to my TP2 and I actually type slower. I just cant type without looking at the keyboard, one thing a software keyboard will never accomplish.
Ive been following WinMo for years, and I can tell you, this makes me never want to go back, even for WP7.
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Nobody knows for sure. Some speculate it is hardware and won't be fixed. Most of us feel it is software. It supposedly works for some people, but those that can't get it to work are dubious that the ones that work are just not hitting the right circumstances for it to fail. It actually seems to be accurate a high percentage of the time, but when it is off, it is waaaaayyyyy off. Sometimes only for a few seconds. Very inconsistent.
Samsung has indicated it will be fixed in September. Not much time left for them on that commitment.
If they don't make it by then, there will be lots of whining and griping. I'll be doing that in my mind, but plan to refrain from doing so in the forum The GPS problem is probably the single largest issue that has caused a lot of threads, and several contentious posts.
It is a great phone. Hopefully the GPS issue will have true resolution very soon.
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Ok I got the phone on the way home.
I am likeing it a lot all ready. I used Travel for the GPS app. That thing worked great. I hope maybe I got a good one. Before I did anything on the phone I did the software update. I am going to play with it for a little and see what else if great. I do love the voice activated things. That is great.
veener79 said:
Ok I got the phone on the way home.
I am likeing it a lot all ready. I used Travel for the GPS app. That thing worked great. I hope maybe I got a good one. Before I did anything on the phone I did the software update. I am going to play with it for a little and see what else if great. I do love the voice activated things. That is great.
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I came from a HTC Tilt, which had HORRIBLE GPS. I was able to get a great Froyo ROM in it and had a ton of time to play with it before I got the Captivate. The learning curve is very low for basic operation. It'll take a bit of research to get the rooting/sideloading etc down. Most everyone here is fantastic at helping out and I've gotten some excellent advice from people on how to mod my Captivate. Coming from a WinMo phone to this one, I HIGHLY doubt you'll be disappointed