The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
Overall the new Touch Flo 3D is giving you the ability to get to the applications you use the most a lot quicker then what we can do now. The device is no more powerful then our 1st Gen devices as far as storage capacity is concerned and uses the same processors, so it should be non issue for them to roll out an update to our software.
Everyone should be going to http://www.htc.com and petitioning them starting now, requesting that they make the new Touch Flo 3D software available to us 1st Gen owners.
My phone is not even a month old, and to see them fix what is broken about the current gen software and not offer it to us would be flat out wrong. Even Apple offered the new software to their customers for just a nominal fee of $20, which eventually dropped down to $10.
I wish we could get a petition going and send it to them voicing how we feel. While I know people have been making mods to get this function on the current phones, this is a time where we need to make HTC step up and do what is right.
If you agree please keep bumping this, it would act as a petition of sorts. Maybe you could even do a poll on this subject??
I called my own wambulance already so I don't need another one...thanks !! =) lol....honestly though, everyone should feel as strongly about this being addressed by HTC as I do.
Petition? why when someone will port it over...plus from my experience with my kaiser...i dont think they care much to petition.....
Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
Will it port over? I would prefer to not mess with the ROM in anyway, this is an area that kind of worries me..can't afford to brick my phone...or is this something that would not have bearing on that? I don't know exactly how all this works, but that functionality would surely be ideal. Does HTC really not care about customer service? I have not dealt with them directly for anything yet.
stevieraveon said:
Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
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Is this a cooked ROM install that I would have to do or a .CAB that you just run?....Thanks.
I strongly agree that they should have an upgrade for us, but I don't think they really care, this is how they make money, they put out the newest stuff and don't have upgrades for the old stuff so it urges you to buy the new phone
then why not just charge all of us 1st gen owners $10-$20 for the software and allow us to upgrade to it? They would make a ton of cash off doing that, on top of the sales from the new phone. This is exactly what Apple did when they upgraded to the next gen of their phones, it was smart of them to do it and brilliant from a customer relations standpoint.
I guess I could just return my current phone and get something else temporarily until that comes out, since I bought it online and it is not even 30 days old...but I would rather keep this phone if it is possible and just get the functions of the new Touch Flo 3D.
Don't sweat it, when it gets out someone will port it and make it installable with a cab...no worries. HTC really doesn't care much for the end user, they proved that with the Kaiser drivers.
htc does not give a sh*t and frankly i don't care... at the moment they have, IMHO, the best + tweaks phone for me. once i see a better phone somewhere else i will buy that phone.... i just hope this time they hard coded all of the hardware buttons so i can't remap any of them .... @ the person who made that decision.... and i quote
"go fu*k yourself"
**** Cheney
I thought that Diamond TF3D Configurator did a lot of those things. You can use it to remove unused tabs and to re-order them. You can also use it to re-order the programs in the program tab pretty easily. I'm also pretty sure that there are cabs out there that allow you to add some more shortcuts to the program tab. Personally, I don't really like loading more than 9, because scrolling down is a little tricky (it's easy to launch a program in the first 9 by mistake).
Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
This is what he suggested to me so I can get more tabs etc..:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I like my phone a lot and in most ways it is a step up from my HTC Mogul...but the lack of dedicated hard keys is taking a lot of getting use to, so some extra tabs would help get to those features faster.
Unfortunately not all of us are as comfortable as others when it comes to understanding how to install or deal with cooked ROM's. If it is all .CAB file installs then that I can deal with, no way can I afford to brick a $300+ phone that I just got on a 2 year contract.
I just wanna make my phone as quick and user friendly as I can without worrying about all this "bricking" I hear can happen if a custom ROM install goes bad on you.
Thanks again all....Bruce.
the only thing thats really new is the landscape tf3d has all the tabs now including home screen music and all that it looks like
that alone is awesome but yes of course it will port over
i believe 6.5 requires a windows key too so that might be an issue
We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.
dont even stress it guys we all know someone will port it and probably make it better...i do hear u on htc at least giving the upgrade for 1st gen users but oh well. such is life in business
htcplussony said:
We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.
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forget about 6.5? if you look in the roms section 6.5 is already on the touch pro
yeah, either way even if they don't not going to sweat it. I keep hearing that the Palm Pre might be released next month, and that device has really got my interest. If Palm does their applications store right to compete against the iPhone (keeping most applications free-$2) then it really has a chance to be a great phone.
They added the ability for it to support Flash today, also does copy/paste and a whole bunch of other features look promising. The keyboard is not as nice as other devices out there, but setting that aside all the previews for it have been really good so far.
So many choices lol.....anyone know if this is a "cooked ROM"?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I think this might do what I am looking for, but if I have to mess with the ROM then I'll skip it...not out to brick my phone if something goes bad with the install.
Thanks all for your replies.
why are you so afraid to flash a rom? theres like 3 steps to it and pretty much impossible to brick it now it makes the phone so much better
Petitioning won't do anything but waste time. HTC will not listen.
I have been looking for a clear set of instructions on it that I am comfortable with is all. If you can tell me where to find a good set of instructions I really have been looking to give this a try. It's not something I have ever done before and I keep seeing people say in their posts that it might brick your phone.
I have been using the PHM Registry Edit program, but only for the most basic of stuff. So far nothing has gone wrong there thankfully. I also have the Advanced Configuration Tool version 3.3 with some of the stock settings changed.
Some of the mods out there look great. I just want 1 page that tells me everything as clearly as possible how to set my phone up for flashing to different ROM's and any additional software I might need.
If I have to get the phone serviced for any reason I will also need the ability to restore back to the stock Sprint HTC Touch Pro ROM. (signed?).
Thanks !! ....Bruce.
gameday22 said:
Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
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Um, I was just responding to this:
gameday22 said:
The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
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You seemed to want to know how to re-organize your TF3D tabs. I gave you a link to an app that allows you to do this. All you need to do is download and install the cab. Try it out, you might like it.
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My Touch Pro is a uk vodafone branded one, their branding of the TP absolutely sucks so, like my Kaiser, I have customised it.
However, I can't quite get it where I want it which is effectively the stock htc theme *.tsk and TF3D with the 'globe' internet tab, 'green' toggles on the comm manager and green highlight focus.
I have installed LantisOS TF3D with HD Contracts which gives me everything but the above mentioned.
I have searched and searched on this site but cannot quite find the tweaks that I would like. I don't want to flash another ROM as this is beyond my capability, I tried a number of routes to get what I want, I have tried;
tlr-manila
12aeon manila
Both do the same as the Lantis OS TF3D, they don't modify the internet tab or the comm manager or the highlight focus.
I have also tried using a theme installing using Diamond TF3D Config, still the same issue. I have also tried the following programmes too;
manila customizer
uitweak
Still the same
So, any help would be much appreciated beer tokens can be made available too.
Flashing a new rom is easier than it sounds. The guys here make things much more difficult than they actually are. I have the Vodafone TP and am using NATF's Standard 4.7 ROM. I followed these instructions to flash it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Agreed. My Touch Pro is my first WinMo device & I've only had it for 2 months. It must be on its 7th or 8th custom rom by now. Just dooooo it!
Take it step by step & you won't have a hassle - HardSPL -> Custom ROM -> new radio/rilphone.dll & you're sorted. Just don't flash a GSM ROM to a CDMA device and vice versa & you'll be fine.
Thanks for the help chaps, will have a look.
Ok, have decided for the moment not to change the ROM so still looking for help please.
Hi,
I have a vodafone branded HTC - though I didn't get it from vodafone.
I use ROMeOS and that gives me the "normal" touchflo tab buttons (though I now use IphoneToday)
I'm only a noob and I managed to flash my phone following those instructions (make sure you backup your stuff though) Plus I'm a girl, so it must be easy!
GreenSaints said:
Hi,
I have a vodafone branded HTC - though I didn't get it from vodafone.
I use ROMeOS and that gives me the "normal" touchflo tab buttons (though I now use IphoneToday)
I'm only a noob and I managed to flash my phone following those instructions (make sure you backup your stuff though) Plus I'm a girl, so it must be easy!
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I'm a big girl's blouse!
Allen Mead said:
I'm a big girl's blouse!
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Yes... yes, you are Elaine Mead
Not to worry, acceptance IS after all the first step. You're well on your way. If you pop down to the southern bit of Africa, I'll guide you through the process.
It's really not that big a deal and it adds the novelty of having a 'new' phone every couple of weeks. Just read up a bit in the ROMs forum and once you feel comfortable, then read some more. And if something does go awry don't freak out - there are a lot of smart chaps on this forum.
Case in point: Day after I got mine I hurriedly flashed a Touch HD radio to the phone. Suffice it to say that the phone didn't appreciate this much & I feared I sorted myself a very expensive paperweight. But after I dug out the trusty Nokia N95 and popped on here to READ some more, I got it sorted again.
Then again, I only made the mistake because I didn't read enough beforehand.
*DISCLAIMER*
Although I am encouraging you to take the plunge, please don't hold me personally responsible if you do c#$k up your phone... Oh, and get the stock ROM/SPL downloaded as well. If something does mess up, or you need to return the phone for warranty purposes you can easily revert back to factory spec.
ok i just got my touch pro yesterday, i was pretty excited
to get the phone. But after using it for part of the evening
and this even. i must say this is the worst phone, or
should i say OS 6.2.
The name touch doesnt even fit this freakn phone.
am so frustrated with this thing i feel like crashing
against the wall.
i've been using the iphone for two years, but before
that i have an MDA. it ran just great! i mean with this
thing, i had problems with clicking on links and such
hotmail was a nightmare! anyway, i have an expensive
phone and i will end up tossing it to my daughter. i dont have time to deal with this garbage device. Ive made up my
mind, i will just buy the new iphone 3gs.
i just had to share my frustration guys, thanks for reading!
Did you play with it in the store?
Next time do all of the following:
1) Reformat the phone on the spot in the store
2) Use the phone
if you came from an I phone.... they use a different touch display setup on those. the HTC phones are a capactive reflex interface and require a heavier touch.... might be a bunch of your problem???
but either way... try rebooting and see if you like it more, that or pick up a different rom...
Have you been keeping up with the xda rhodium section info for the last 3 months? All new roms, hardspl, fixes, tweeks, etc are there...
thx
thanks for the response guys. that's why I like the board, people are always willing to help. that made feel a little bit better, just that I can can do a little with it to tweak it.
thanx
OK, so I've been using a Kaiser/Tilt with Eclair on it for awhile. I've spent countless hours drooling after the Nexus One. When AT&T finally got the "Backflip" from Motorola, I just couldn't resist. I took the plunge.
I should've known better. I have plenty of AT&T horror stories, and this is the same carrier that wont allow you to tell your Java apps NOT to ask for permission more than once (making Opera mini a PITA but the only usable browser for non-smart-phones).
There is NO option to install applications from untrusted sources. This means anything on your SD card, downloaded from the web or over your wifi at home WILL NOT WORK. Naturally, you also cannot use the "su" command in terminal.
Motoblur is nice I guess, but the uninstallable AT&T paid apps, the limitations of 1.5 firmware (ie: no google navigator, no voice search) and the locked-to-yahoo-search-bar are enough to get me to say NO to any further AT&T abuse.
With the Kaiser's bloatware, they removed/hid apps from you so you wouldn't try to use them and replaced them with their crapware.
AT&T does not know the meaning of "open" and they do not understand Android. You are not buying an Android phone when you buy from AT&T.
You are buying a device LOCKED to a market with a smaller number of applications than the iPhone (I don't use Apple products either ) forced to use a lesser search engine for your most convenient option and subject to losing any application that was once on the market but then removed. You can't install your own apps or even test them on your device. Period.
Also on my first day of using it I got a number of "Force Close" messages including on the built-in applications (ie: Motorola's flavor of the desk clock).
It's decent hardware, it feels pretty zippy to me, but this is exactly why I WONT buy an iPhone.
Screw you, AT&T. I will make sure that everyone I know is properly informed about this crippled device that is nothing like the Android experience is supposed to (expected to!) be.
/endrant phew, going to go breathe for awhile.
EDIT: I will add:
- Set "orientation" on this phone when you tilt it and somehow it gets stuck in one orientation or the other (who knows maybe this one is just me, not seen any other backflips) if you set it back to just when you open/close it it's fine again though
- The desk clock can't be launched manually and is tricky to get to appear trying to get the phone in that perfect angle to display it
- I don't have a separate camera on me right now to show you the menu but to back up with sources:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1910...n_atandt_not_the_full_android_experience.html
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/121849
Don't buy this phone. Stay away from AT&T, stay away from Motorola (IMO or at least the motorola backflip).
This is pretty horrible.
I have two questions, though.
1) Can you take a screen cap of the Settings > Applications screen so we can see the lack of Unknown Sources option? That'd really help people see the validity of this issue.
2) I hope you have some kind of 30-day money-back guarantee when buying a handset from AT&T like Sprint offers. Otherwise, ouch =/
I haven't tried to install an apk from astro or anything, but i have pushed a few with ADB which seems to work fine. It kinda sucks, but I really hope that we can figure out root access soon! I don't care for blur, but I like android. Hopefully we don't have to wait to long. Here is an ADB guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643866
I wonder if Apple suddenly took over AT&T because this kind of behaviour is more common to them
... It's not only AT&T who manages to confuse their customers about an OSS... Don't forget who decided to lock down an open software system boot-loader for everyone *cough*Motorola*cough*
Apple made them an offer they could not refuse!
nuff said
I spent some time with one yesterday.
Ouch, even my Fuze running eclair is faster.
They really broke this machine.
I am worried about other att phones!
My hope for an even somewhat open x10 on AT&T is starting to dwindle.
HushH said:
My hope for an even somewhat open x10 on AT&T is starting to dwindle.
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mines as well. i hope they dont. i know its off topic but is there an officail release date for the x10 on att? i hear it may be april/may
Someone more familiar than I needs to figure out the proper java system call to enable unknown/untrusted sources and then post on this thread the proper at command to execute it via CLI. You wouldn't even need root to do this.
IConrad01 said:
Someone more familiar than I needs to figure out the proper java system call to enable unknown/untrusted sources and then post on this thread the proper at command to execute it via CLI. You wouldn't even need root to do this.
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Assuming the software running on the Backflip is the same software they released the source to on opensource.motorola.com, there may be hope of that. I'll dig into it when I get time.
Wow. I am surprised that this was picked up by Gizmodo. Do we have anyone corroborating this? Doesn't this somehow violate Google's terms of service?
HushH said:
My hope for an even somewhat open x10 on AT&T is starting to dwindle.
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Mine too! Just means to spend the couple extra hundred dollars and get an unlocked unbranded one.
I got the Backflip just because I am moving on from my jailbroken iPhone and I wanted something neat and shiny.
I can say that there is a lot of smack talk here, but give these guys a chance here to root the phone and get some things working on it.
It's been two days since the release and I can already say, that I like the phone a hell of a lot more today then I did on Sunday. I've been able to install untrusted sources using the Droid Explorer, a bit of a pain in the ass, but it's okay, considering that if I want Android, then this is the only way to go for now.
But I have faith in someone out there... Someone will figure this out.
I just hope it's within my 30 day return policy.
EDIT: I Installed "GDE" on my device and I am able to use the Google search widget... So that issue is sort of solved...
This may just be my unit but the A2DP doesn't work right, it starts playing music then begins to fast forward whatever you are watching or listening to. Did a hard reset, no luck. Looks like I already need a replacement lol.
Squeaky369 said:
EDIT: I Installed "GDE" on my device and I am able to use the Google search widget... So that issue is sort of solved...
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Can you please explain how you got the google search widget working?
nutcake852 said:
Can you please explain how you got the google search widget working?
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Eh; fail on my part. It's mostly a cosmetic fix. I didn't actually test it, but when you click on it, it changes to "Yahoo".
So my bad on that one.
God, I hate Yahoo. Ever since that stupid ass cowboy did that commercial, it's ate away at my soul...
I don't know why...
To think we were all worried about how Verizon was going to cripple android only to have ATT do it instead. At first I was amazed and then I realized that any android phone would have outshown their prized phone...oh well one more reason to love being on T-Mobile. ;-)
I played with a Backflip. My god it's a horrid phone. And yeah, Android is completely locked down, with no way to delete those AT&T apps and no installing off-Market Android Apps out of the box.
I was going to wait to see what AT&T was going to bring to the table, but I'm not holding my breath.
Btw, I noticed that AT&T trained to sell the Backflip pretty hard. Like, seriously, I was looking at phones today, and every other word out of the rep's mouth was that I should buy the Backflip. Thankfully I'm more informed than that. I walked out with an iPhone instead. (Don't grill me, I use a Touch Pro2, I just needed a good phone for my work line >_<)
Help i ****ed up my phone
So i just rooted my g1 to get the nexus one features to it and now all it is doing is foreclosing instead of going to the home screen if anyone can help can you please email me at [email protected] thank you
Xodium said:
I played with a Backflip. My god it's a horrid phone. And yeah, Android is completely locked down, with no way to delete those AT&T apps and no installing off-Market Android Apps out of the box.
I was going to wait to see what AT&T was going to bring to the table, but I'm not holding my breath.
Btw, I noticed that AT&T trained to sell the Backflip pretty hard. Like, seriously, I was looking at phones today, and every other word out of the rep's mouth was that I should buy the Backflip. Thankfully I'm more informed than that. I walked out with an iPhone instead. (Don't grill me, I use a Touch Pro2, I just needed a good phone for my work line >_<)
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I really do think though that this is going to end up to be a decent phone.
I know I am a little pro for that comment, just because I bought one. But lets look at every phone that ever comes out. There is always some sort of challenge that we have to overcome.
And; with all the threads I've been reading about this; it looks like it was BOTH AT&T and Motorola that are to blame for locking this phone down. ATT cause they don't want us to install from anything but an "App Store" and Motorola because they don't want their devices used for what "there were not intended to be used for," is the wording I've seen floating around the internet.
But in all seriousness. I am coming from an iPhone 3GS which I had jailbroken. So I am coming from a phone that I had everything and anything on to this, and I am, overall, happy with it. Although it's only been 5 days, I can say I don't think I'll change my mind in the next 25 days.
But that's just my two-cents.
So, after selling my x7501, about 3 years ago, I have had the HTC Touch Pro (unlocked), HTC Touch Pro 2 (Tmobile US), & now the HTC HD2 (Tmobile US) - don't get me wrong, they were all great devices in their on right, but I was much, much happier & productive with my x7501. & with those devices I still have 2 carry a netbook - not 2 mention all the freezing & resetting i am dealing with with my HD2 - such a headache! in order 2 get back to my "happy place" I am in the process of ordering an x7510!
Question: Can someone tell me what's the maximum size memory card it supports??
Double post
it depends what rom you use (my one has the latest drivers/build ), 16gb card works. (haven't tried 32gb)
Thank you!! I'm sorry for the double post i hit the back browser by mistake & couldn't figure out how to delete one - but thank you for replying, I appreciate it!
I notice in your signature line you have WM6.5, is it easy to upgrade from 6.1?
chellie said:
I notice in your signature line you have WM6.5, is it easy to upgrade from 6.1?
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You can't 'upgrade', its like a 'full instalation' , it does a hard rest and so you lose your data. Also you need to change your stock SPL to a hard SPL found in the sticky.
i guess i will have 2 try it when i receive my phone, before i load anything.
i hope the process is painless, i've never did a full install before.
on that thread will it give me information & warnings on what to look out for? will i loose any valuable programs thats already installed on the phone?
You can always revert if you don't like it, no problem.
Hey, chellie, good to see an 'old' new X7510 user.
It's very simple to change your ROM.
First of all, read this thread about Hard-SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
After that, just select the ROM that you want. We have few 'chefs' here. So there are few options, but all of them are making good ROMs.
The new one is from Vico100.
Unfortunately, 6.5.x does not support RealVGA (if you don't know about this app, search it here on xda. It is a real new life for X7510 to make it as a wonderful netbook).
hiroshi.rio said:
Hey, chellie, good to see an 'old' new X7510 user.
It's very simple to change your ROM.
First of all, read this thread about Hard-SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
After that, just select the ROM that you want. We have few 'chefs' here. So there are few options, but all of them are making good ROMs.
The new one is from Vico100.
Unfortunately, 6.5.x does not support RealVGA (if you don't know about this app, search it here on xda. It is a real new life for X7510 to make it as a wonderful netbook).
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Thank you hiroshi.rio.
I owned a x7501 previously, but I used it stock.
With purchasing the x7510, I may just do the same, I am way to nervous to dry to change or update the ROMs - I have no experience in doing so, and I don't wanna mess anything up
I appreciate the information and I will look at the recommended forum and take in as much info as I can.
So updating the system or changing it to RealVGA makes it more like a netbook? That sounds interesting, I have to look into that.
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
Nichyun said:
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
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I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
ThisWasATriumph said:
I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
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I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
Nichyun said:
I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
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Apps installed on the phone do not take up your main phone storage. There are two separate disk partitions. The first one is ~2GB and holds your OS and applications. The second is ~10GB and holds your pictures, videos, external app data etc. Thats what an SD card would add on to if we had one. Installing more apps (that don't have extra parts, games often do for example) won't take up anymore of that space though. (however it is possible to install apps to the SD card) Anyways, like I said you can go into settings and "disable" any apps you don't want to show up in the app drawer anymore.