WM6.1 Threaded SMS express restore? - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
here is my situation: I am jumping around wm6.1 (maybe wm6.5) ROMs and I would like to restore my threaded SMS. The SMS will restore fine but waiting for it to rethread is a pain (really lots of SMSes).
My question is: is there a known way to backup the SMSes, with the already threaded structure, and then during restore, you don't have to wait for it to rethread (as in after restore, it will be back in the threaded state immediately)?
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
PS: I have so much SMSes that threading itself will take about 8 hours itself without going to standby. So its really a pain to have a downtime of 8 hours after every single flash.

ic2e said:
Hi,
here is my situation: I am jumping around wm6.1 (maybe wm6.5) ROMs and I would like to restore my threaded SMS. The SMS will restore fine but waiting for it to rethread is a pain (really lots of SMSes).
My question is: is there a known way to backup the SMSes, with the already threaded structure, and then during restore, you don't have to wait for it to rethread (as in after restore, it will be back in the threaded state immediately)?
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
PS: I have so much SMSes that threading itself will take about 8 hours itself without going to standby. So its really a pain to have a downtime of 8 hours after every single flash.
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you can use ppc pim backup but it will not keep the thread sorted by date....so you could try disabling the threaded mode...backup them as single smses and restore them....and after that re enable the threaded mode...
that was just a tip...i haven't still tested it myself but one thing is sure...pimbackup doesn't backup threads correctly

farukb said:
you can use ppc pim backup but it will not keep the thread sorted by date....so you could try disabling the threaded mode...backup them as single smses and restore them....and after that re enable the threaded mode...
that was just a tip...i haven't still tested it myself but one thing is sure...pimbackup doesn't backup threads correctly
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Hi,
thanks for the input. Yup, in fact, that is exactly what I am doing now. Backup and restores fine but the re-threading itself takes like 8 hours.
Have read that some people only need like 20mins for 3000 messages. Not sure why mine took 8 hours...

lol, 8hours? Jeez, call me pedantic but surely its better not to keep so many on the device, leave them backed up on PIM BU for future reference, the device will work so much quicker.
fyi i backup my text each month to keep them in check and device clean

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WM 6.1 - unable to restore all SMS

I have received the MDA Vario III this week and started to backup all SMS, etc from my old Vario I.
Before that, I have simunlocked my Vario III and put on the official WM6.1 ROM (ROM 3.03.405.0.WWE, Radio 1.64.06.04),
I have backupped my old SMS, etc on the Vario I with PIM Backup (but also used HTC Data Backup) and trasfered the backup-file to my Vario III.
There I did a restore.
Contacts, call history, etc was restored fine.
Only problem is that not all my SMS was restored.
PIM Backup said to have restored 25 SMS (which is correct), but on the Vario III is shows only like 10 SMS in my inbox.
Does the Vario III automatically hide some SMS or something ?
Someone had the same problem ?
This has been discussed on the PIM backup thread. Have a look there for answers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
I had to restore twice. Once missed half of the messages I received. The second time they all appeared. I think I used the SMS/MMS software to clear all messages before the second restore.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction....I guess I completely overlooked it
I have tried several restores already, even only messages restore (or even only inbox restore), but I keep having only 10 messages where the database clearly says that 25 messages are in it.....
Strange....but I will discuss this further in the right thread.
change the sms WM6.1
DaveShaw said:
This has been discussed on the PIM backup thread. Have a look there for answers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
I had to restore twice. Once missed half of the messages I received. The second time they all appeared. I think I used the SMS/MMS software to clear all messages before the second restore.
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this is only my personal opinion, for me the performance of WM6.1 is superb however the only thing i feel disadvantange/a little disappointed about WM6.1 is the way of sms program showing the message. i still like the old one style. really appreciated if you have the software to change it to the old one.
amzary said:
this is only my personal opinion, for me the performance of WM6.1 is superb however the only thing i feel disadvantange/a little disappointed about WM6.1 is the way of sms program showing the message. i still like the old one style. really appreciated if you have the software to change it to the old one.
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I've posted a suggested fix for the message restore on the PIM backup post.
here is how to disable threading in 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1903034&postcount=746
thanks dude!!!...
no ringtone for new message
DaveShaw said:
I've posted a suggested fix for the message restore on the PIM backup post.
here is how to disable threading in 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1903034&postcount=746
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a little help here...once i change the key, its working fine and i like it. but the only thing problem now is there is now ringtone for new incoming message.i've tried to change other ringtone but it wont work too but it will work if i change back to original key by WM6.1..will ya help me out..

Jeyo Mobile Companion

Hi, have you guys notice (to those who are using, who have used jeyo) that it cuts down / shortens a message when it reads from the pc, i think its only on to 160 characters and below are shown up. I wonder and this is my question.. is there a fix for that? I mean i have a couple of text messages who's 3-4-5-6 message lines. and i can't back it up. because if i was to use jeyo, it shortens it from 6 message line to 1!
could you guys suggest an alternative software which offers the same capablities with jeyo? Im really a fan of the app. but not in the back up and restore thing.. I need to back up over 5000 text messages and most of those messages are over the limit (meaning 2 and above message lines)
hoping for a response soon..
cheers and best regards,
If you just want to backup your messages, have you considered something like PIM Backup , or perhaps a commercial solution like SPB Backup or Sprite?
I use Jeyo, and love what it does, but it really isn't a very good backup solution. It is the only program I have seen like it.
Same here, i use Jeyo for sending SMS and tidying up contacts etc but for backup i use PIMBackup.

Threaded SMS View Time?

Hey, i have Windows Mobile 6.1 and for any SMS thats over a day old, it doesnt show the time, only the date. Is there any way I can see the details of the message or have it so it shows (day/month hours:minutes:seconds)?
Also, is there a programs that backs up the messages, but keeps the threaded conversations structure? Because Im using PIM Backup and when i restore my SMS from a backup, it groups the sent and then the received.
thanks in advance
hate to double post, but can anybody help me?
SMS Database
Hi
I can't advise on the day/date stamp of older SMS conversations. However, in terms of the "threaded" structure, this is only a method of displaying the SMS Messages sent and received. Both Threaded and Standard views of SMS messages sent and received use the same database. I think they're in pim.vol, but others may be able to elaborate on that point.
Either way, I think that if you can successfully back up and restore this database you should be able to display the restored messages in standard or threaded mode.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
thank you,
but i did successfully restore the database,
but when it is restored, the sent and received are grouped.
like this:
before the backup:
sent message 1
received message 1
sent message 2
received message 2
and then after restoring the backup:
sent message 1
sent message 2
received message 1
received message 2
theyre in the right order, just not like a conversation
try spb backup
searching for the same thing since I switched to 6.1 . and the only way I found was to disable the threadview with Advanced Config (or any other programm that can toogle this)..
I read something that other roms CAN have this feature that they display date and time.. but never seen that "live" :/
andrew-in-woking said:
Hi
I can't advise on the day/date stamp of older SMS conversations. However, in terms of the "threaded" structure, this is only a method of displaying the SMS Messages sent and received. Both Threaded and Standard views of SMS messages sent and received use the same database. I think they're in pim.vol, but others may be able to elaborate on that point.
Either way, I think that if you can successfully back up and restore this database you should be able to display the restored messages in standard or threaded mode.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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I too wonder why cant we have the completedetails about the time stamp on the SMS like any ordinary mobile phone has. many a times one definitely feels the need to know these details..
Regarding the backing up the SMS you can use ppcpimbkup by dotfred..It works just perfect...
PowerSMS is free and packs a few extra features... It's what I use personally.
c_shekhar said:
I too wonder why cant we have the completedetails about the time stamp on the SMS like any ordinary mobile phone has. many a times one definitely feels the need to know these details..
Regarding the backing up the SMS you can use ppcpimbkup by dotfred..It works just perfect...
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antoniouslj said:
PowerSMS is free and packs a few extra features... It's what I use personally.
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you sure these restore sms (in threaded view) in the right order?

WM5 to WM6.1 - Backup/Restore SMS Msg's

Does anyone know how to backup SMS messages on WM5 and restore them to WM6.1?
Here's the rom I'm using (Sprint/version 1.2) http://forum.xda-
developers.com/showthread.php?t=397134
I tried PIMBackup it can backup and restore the messages fine on WM5 but it can't restore them to WM6.1. I do notice that it seems to have a seperate SMS client rather than just using "Messaging" like WM5 did, maybe that's why it won't work?
It's strange, a few will show up then stop. If I delete some of those a few more will come up. If I soft reset a few MIGHT come up.
It seems to be random, I can get anywhere from 10 to 100 to show up after a restore.
I'd appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Kenny
I think I got it, don't know how...
I decided to try "SMSBackup" to look at the app I ran a backup on WM6.1.
And it backed up all my messages.
When the backup was complete my phone was counting up messages.
Up to 160 right now....
backup
Pimbackup is the simplest tool. find the attached enjoy more than you needed
Thanks for the reply that was actually the first thing I tried.
But I couldn't see the messages after the restore. It caused the behavior above.
With SMSBackup I can now see my inbox.
Still nothing in my Sent Items, but I don't really care.
Funny thing is if I do a backup it backs up all my sent items.
I guess it's just some more buggy palm software.
Thanks,
Kenny

Backup and Restore of SMS without Threading Sequence Problem

Probably some of you are using PIMBackup 2.8 to backup your SMS, Contacts and Calendars before you flash a new rom. The issue is that sometimes, after the restore, you find that the threading of SMS has errors, i.e. in Inbox, you see all the SMS with the "Me".
This doesn't happen to all roms, but seems to happen to many of the 6.S roms.
Well, I tested using SPB Backup version 2.01 and did a restore on one of the rom that I know will have threading problem. Surprisingly, the threading is good.
Hope some of you will find this information useful.
Cheers!
Restoring to threaded SMS
I have found that in order to restore to a successful threaded sms you have to turn off threaded sms in adv.config., then restore, then turn on threaded sms, and everyting works fine.
RT
There is a thread on this (with solution) already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420564
Thread Closed.
Ta
Dave

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