I'm considering purchasing a head unit for my truck that has stereo bluetooth built in.
I know that I could purchase a 16GB SD card to store my music on, but I want to carry much more than 16GB of music. I am wondering if there is any coders out there that agree with me and think this would be a cool idea.
I am not a coder, although I am an IT technician so I do have working knowledge of these things, but have no knowledge of how to implement something like this..
What I would like to do is have
1) A G1 running (preferably) Cyanogen's latest Rom
2) An external Hard Drive that can be powered through USB
3) An adapter that allows you to charge your G1 and connect another USB device
So Coders, Developers and the such, is it possible to write a script, and/or application that would allow the G1 to mount an external Hard Drive AND power it through USB to access a large library of music to play through stereo bluetooth?
bhilgeman said:
I'm considering purchasing a head unit for my truck that has stereo bluetooth built in.
I know that I could purchase a 16GB SD card to store my music on, but I want to carry much more than 16GB of music. I am wondering if there is any coders out there that agree with me and think this would be a cool idea.
I am not a coder, although I am an IT technician so I do have working knowledge of these things, but have no knowledge of how to implement something like this..
What I would like to do is have
1) A G1 running (preferably) Cyanogen's latest Rom
2) An external Hard Drive that can be powered through USB
3) An adapter that allows you to charge your G1 and connect another USB device
So Coders, Developers and the such, is it possible to write a script, and/or application that would allow the G1 to mount an external Hard Drive AND power it through USB to access a large library of music to play through stereo bluetooth?
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if i remember correctly, no, because google hasnt released those api's yet (we cant hook any device up to the g1 and control/use it, except for headsets)
but you can use imeem to host all your music online and just login to imeem when driving
nope.....for one very good reason....it isnt "wired" that way
and would kill the battery in all of 30 minutes lol
how much music do u really need?
iv seen reports of 32gb cards working...and u can just change card wen u need to
wootroot said:
if i remember correctly, no, because google hasnt released those api's yet (we cant hook any device up to the g1 and control/use it, except for headsets)
but you can use imeem to host all your music online and just login to imeem when driving
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yea but for some people it would be a b*tch uploading 50gb of music lol
btw i remember reading somewhere that the g1 had usb host capabilities (along with some other awesome things)
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if i remember correctly, no, because google hasnt released those api's yet (we cant hook any device up to the g1 and control/use it, except for headsets)
but you can use imeem to host all your music online and just login to imeem when driving
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Ya that or I wish Orb would make an app for Android, and T-mobile would bring 3G to South Carolina... I'm sure us backwoods South Carolina rednecks are last on their list though....
use gmote, you can stream music and video to your phone, and it works over 3g!
check it out!
there was another post a while back similar...cant find it....from what i read there i got the impression it cant be done with the g1 coz of some screwed up way of doing things
anyway....the g1 wouldnt be able to output suitable voltage and current (normally 5v 500mA for external drives)(standard usb values)
the battery doesnt even go up to 5v so....meh
garok89 said:
nope.....for one very good reason....it isnt "wired" that way
and would kill the battery in all of 30 minutes lol
how much music do u really need?
iv seen reports of 32gb cards working...and u can just change card wen u need to
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if he is using apps2sd that isnt a good option, and since he mentioned cyanogen, chances are he is
and yeah, 16gb of music to listen to while driving is alot of music imo, and 32gb is just crazy
but to each there own, i think your going to have to either use online radio or just swap out music every time you get home to shuffle it up, but even that takes time due to the transfer speed limit from computer to g1
I have an VPS that I run and host files off of. I also operate a ShoutCast Radio server from it. If you can get an ShoutCast Player for Android, just buy a VPS, install the ShoutCast Server files, add your music, configure an auto-dj script, and then run the server. There you have a server running 24/7 that you can add/delete music from and play it straight to your phone. All for the cost of around $25? IF THAT!
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there was another post a while back similar...cant find it....from what i read there i got the impression it cant be done with the g1 coz of some screwed up way of doing things
anyway....the g1 wouldnt be able to output suitable voltage and current (normally 5v 500mA for external drives)(standard usb values)
the battery doesnt even go up to 5v so....meh
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Well I was thinking that the adapter would transfer data through to and from the G1 and also accept external power from the cigarette lighter..
I know all of this is a long shot, but I like hacking, g1, and car audio so... what the heck it was worth a shot...
bhilgeman said:
Ya that or I wish Orb would make an app for Android, and T-mobile would bring 3G to South Carolina... I'm sure us backwoods South Carolina rednecks are last on their list though....
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There's Andorb. While not released by Orb, it works pretty well for streaming music and pics through the Orb service.
Do you really need your entire library of music in your truck? Are you planning on driving for more than 200 hours straight and you just can't stand to listen to the same song more than once
Seriously though. 32GB should be more than enough space. Keep the external hard drive at home and load up the 32GB you feel like listening to that MONTH every morning before you leave.
Seriously i can't stand people saying i need 1XX gigs of music... honestly most people can get away with having 5 gigs they just to lazy is the thing IMO. Your 16 gig is enough or are you travel cross the US n wont be seen listening to the same song once ever couple of hours?
garok89 said:
nope.....for one very good reason....it isnt "wired" that way
and would kill the battery in all of 30 minutes lol
how much music do u really need?
iv seen reports of 32gb cards working...and u can just change card wen u need to
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I'd like to see a link to one of those reports. I'd also like to know where one finds a 32gb microsdHC
Iceucold said:
I'd like to see a link to one of those reports. I'd also like to know where one finds a 32gb microsdHC
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Same here. Haven't found one yet...
There is 3g in SC its mostly in Charleston Area Cause when i get home in moncks corner i lose it all!
miketaylor00 said:
Do you really need your entire library of music in your truck? Are you planning on driving for more than 200 hours straight and you just can't stand to listen to the same song more than once
Seriously though. 32GB should be more than enough space. Keep the external hard drive at home and load up the 32GB you feel like listening to that MONTH every morning before you leave.
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Seriously i can't stand people saying i need 1XX gigs of music... honestly most people can get away with having 5 gigs they just to lazy is the thing IMO. Your 16 gig is enough or are you travel cross the US n wont be seen listening to the same song once ever couple of hours?
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I agree, I only have about 15GB of music, but I have 6 years of daily podcasts that I listen to regularly...
Honestly I don't NEED to hook up an external drive. I know there are workarounds... I just wanted to see if it was possible...
@imbonez9 That's ok if you can't stand me....
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There is 3g in SC its mostly in Charleston Area Cause when i get home in moncks corner i lose it all!
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I live in Greenville.... No 3G
the guy had hacked it together....using a standard size card and a thrown together adapter....it looked a bit dodgey....and delicate
if i stumble across it again il let u know...i found it by pure accident a while back
anyway - micro sdhc 32gb cards are due out in time for xmas
and the sdhc standard clearly dictates that any sdhc device will work with all cards from 1MB-32GB
cant wait for 64GB SDXC (specs say they will be capable of 64GB-2TB) never gonna use all that BUT I WANT IN SOOOO BAD
as for the music debate - i have 60GB of music.... although there is only about 5GB worth i actually listen to regularly...its good to have the extra stuff for wen i fancy a change
16gb of music. or even 5gb of music can't be listened to within a day...
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hi guys
I want to know if i can use my new touch pro which comes on wednesday as a multimedia player. My Zen just died and i'm being refunded £150 so with this should I buy an extended battery, 32GB SDHC card and just use the pro for music/films?
thanks!
mitch
I use it as multimedia player, it performs well, both as music and movie player. Two minors drawbacks compared to my mp3 player: bigger formfactor and lack of hardwarebuttons.
Get urself a set of A2DP headphones with AVRCP buttons. works a treat
(atleast it does with my Hermes)
mrvanx said:
Get urself a set of A2DP headphones with AVRCP buttons. works a treat
(atleast it does with my Hermes)
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WDawn said:
I use it as multimedia player, it performs well, both as music and movie player. Two minors drawbacks compared to my mp3 player: bigger formfactor and lack of hardwarebuttons.
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Can you play high def movies WDawn? If you're on the stock battery how long do you get out of it when using it as a multimeda player? How are the stock earphones? Should I get a mini-usb to 3.5mm converter?
thanks!
Mitch92uK said:
Can you play high def movies WDawn? If you're on the stock battery how long do you get out of it when using it as a multimeda player? How are the stock earphones? Should I get a mini-usb to 3.5mm converter?
thanks!
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Didn't try high def movies yet, just playing the regular Divx (not converted, 700 mb file) and it works great. About the battery life: it's now on for about 6 hours playing albums on the sd card and battery has dropped to about 60% (note that it have push email and 3G on) and that i have been playing around with it quiet a bit.
Stock earphones are so so. Not bad, not great, i'm thinking to buy a mini usb to 3.5 mm converter myself to use my regular headphones.
What player do you use to play the Divx videos WDawn? TCPMP?
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Didn't try high def movies yet, just playing the regular Divx (not converted, 700 mb file) and it works great. About the battery life: it's now on for about 6 hours playing albums on the sd card and battery has dropped to about 60% (note that it have push email and 3G on) and that i have been playing around with it quiet a bit.
Stock earphones are so so. Not bad, not great, i'm thinking to buy a mini usb to 3.5 mm converter myself to use my regular headphones.
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good to know i can play movies .. thanks. - it'd be great if i could find out if it did hd also
I will likely only have push email on when i get a data plan sorted sometime so that'll improve the battery life somewhat ... i would like to know how much thicker using an extended battery will make the phone though tbh .. is the "extended battery" a whole new backplate or is it just a large battery with a new backplate (do all extended batteries which require a new backplate come with one?)
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What player do you use to play the Divx videos WDawn? TCPMP?
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Core player
WDawn said:
Didn't try high def movies yet, just playing the regular Divx (not converted, 700 mb file) and it works great. About the battery life: it's now on for about 6 hours playing albums on the sd card and battery has dropped to about 60% (note that it have push email and 3G on) and that i have been playing around with it quiet a bit.
Stock earphones are so so. Not bad, not great, i'm thinking to buy a mini usb to 3.5 mm converter myself to use my regular headphones.
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good to know i can play high def .. thanks.
I will likely only have push email on when i get a data plan sorted sometime so that'll improve the battery life somewhat ...
Mitch92uK said:
good to know i can play high def .. thanks.
I will likely only have push email on when i get a data plan sorted sometime so that'll improve the battery life somewhat ...
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Which network are you on?
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Which network are you on?
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atm mate i'm on o2 payG, i was going to ring up to try and blag a sim only contract as I know someone who recently got 250 mins, 400 texts and unlimited web from o2 for £5 a month. I understand the "unlimited" is more like 200 meg though.
"Can you play high def movies"
hd == 1920x1200
kinda waste of space even if it could
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"Can you play high def movies"
hd == 1920x1200
kinda waste of space even if it could
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Didn't mean full 1080p - but i just wanted to know if i could in the future
Has anyone tried DivX Mobile Player, on the Raphael?
http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
On my Niki, it works like a charm, and its allot faster then TCPMP(In AVI playback).
Forget it. If you want to use TP as multimedia player you need to buy additional set of batteries or solar battery kit for additional energy.
After 3days of using TP I can say that TP is a "city phone"
Wake up, disconnect TP from charger, go to work (listen music or browsing the web but if you are planning to use GPS additional car charger is required) then at work you should connect your TP to USB for charging, disconnect your TP after work, go home (music listening is allowed or even web browsing) and ath home you need to remember to recharge your TP because out of battery alarm is ringing.
It's really looks like that.
B.
Mitch92uK said:
hi guys
I want to know if i can use my new touch pro which comes on wednesday as a multimedia player. My Zen just died and i'm being refunded £150 so with this should I buy an extended battery, 32GB SDHC card and just use the pro for music/films?
thanks!
mitch
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Thinking of ding the same as you.
Hav you found a supplier for your 32GB Micro SDHC card. if so can you forward me a weblink.
By the way i use my sure headsets via a converter on my touch pro- works a treat and sounds great
I was not aware that the Touch pro had an extended battery - good to know
nramchandani said:
Thinking of ding the same as you.
Hav you found a supplier for your 32GB Micro SDHC card. if so can you forward me a weblink.
By the way i use my sure headsets via a converter on my touch pro- works a treat and sounds great
I was not aware that the Touch pro had an extended battery - good to know
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Hi Nram.
A few sites I'm keeping my eye on.
Extended battery, 2200MaH for ~£30 http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=BATCRUISEEXTPRO&model=
hope that helps. and i'm not sure if they will ship outside of the UK
Thats a standard SD card. The Touch Pro takes micro. Which are tiny tiny little SD cards. Max is 8GB for now, 12 and 16 soon.
The micro cards are amazing, smaller than my thumb nail.
Jiggs1337 said:
Thats a standard SD card. The Touch Pro takes micro. Which are tiny tiny little SD cards. Max is 8GB for now, 12 and 16 soon.
The micro cards are amazing, smaller than my thumb nail.
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oh yeah it is
Ok so some of you may know that a usb flash drive will play a lot louder and more clear than using bluetooth to listen to your music in your car. I can use bluetooth to listen to the music on my phone but when i plug it in to use it as a flash drive to listen to the music it says usb device not supported on my sony headunit. Even after i change it to disk drive mode.
Before i attempt to go into the kernel to somehow correct this do any of you know of a fix that would correct this? The reason this is important to me is that i have a sub in my car and a lot of the low frequency notes sound faint over bluetooth compared to playing it over a flash drive.
Ideally i would like to eliminate my flash drive entirely rather than finding songs i like but then having to transfer them to a flash drive to get better play-back.
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I also get the USB device error where I never did before on my old incredible. I am running an Alpine headunit. I wonder why its so much softer in volume over Bluetooth than USB.
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Personally, I think it is the Bluetooth stack or hardware. My D2, the only thing I miss from that phone, had awesome range(100-200ft) and great SQ over BT. My TB only gets me about a 50ft range with the same sony mw600 bt module and subpar SQ. That is really my only true complaint about the phone. But, I deal because I love the phone overall.
yea that's what i thought...the only workaround i see is fixing this by allowing it to become capable with the headunit's usb device qualifiers somehow...i will work towards this...unless cm7 fixes everything and allows us to use it as a usb device lol...gotta love android
I had an Incredible and it worked fine hooking it up to the USB port on my Kenwood head unit. Once I upgraded to the TB I had a few issues. First the vcast drive that verizon installs on their phones interfere with the head unit reading the phone. It is the first drive that pops up wanting you to install software when you plug it into the computer. With the incredible you were able to access the phone menu and turn off the CD-ROM, but they took that access away on the TB. The only way I have found to get around that stupid drive is to plug in the phone to the USB port on the head unit with USB debugging turned on, wait a few seconds and then turn it off. For some reason this works to help my kenwood recognize the SD card and start playing music.
What is the advantage of this approach, compared to running an audio player on the t-bolt and going from the headphone jack to an aux in?
Better sound quality.
*EDIT* Plus you can control the music features through the head unit ie. skip, random, search, repeat, etc....
1454 said:
Personally, I think it is the Bluetooth stack or hardware. My D2, the only thing I miss from that phone, had awesome range(100-200ft) and great SQ over BT. My TB only gets me about a 50ft range with the same sony mw600 bt module and subpar SQ. That is really my only true complaint about the phone. But, I deal because I love the phone overall.
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It's the bluetooth stack. Specifically the bitpool setting. It's set too low and to date all anyone ever says when I ask about a fix is, "Mine sounds fine".
CM7 should fix this since they use a different bluetooth stack than the stock one and set a higher bitpool.
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I had an Incredible and it worked fine hooking it up to the USB port on my Kenwood head unit. Once I upgraded to the TB I had a few issues. First the vcast drive that verizon installs on their phones interfere with the head unit reading the phone. It is the first drive that pops up wanting you to install software when you plug it into the computer. With the incredible you were able to access the phone menu and turn off the CD-ROM, but they took that access away on the TB. The only way I have found to get around that stupid drive is to plug in the phone to the USB port on the head unit with USB debugging turned on, wait a few seconds and then turn it off. For some reason this works to help my kenwood recognize the SD card and start playing music.
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Wow i really appreciate this man i will def. try this out. Did you have to put it in disk drive mode as well?
kkozma said:
It's the bluetooth stack. Specifically the bitpool setting. It's set too low and to date all anyone ever says when I ask about a fix is, "Mine sounds fine".
CM7 should fix this since they use a different bluetooth stack than the stock one and set a higher bitpool.
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Yea the users that say "mine sounds fine" obviously do not have custom audio equipement in their cars. having amps on your speaker in conjunction with a subwoofer allows you to hear a lot more from your music even the imperfections.
Either that or they listen to sonicly simple music... I listen to just about everything and there's a massive difference in sound quality when I listen to something that's simple like hip hop/rap versus heavy metal.
trendsetter37 said:
Wow i really appreciate this man i will def. try this out. Did you have to put it in disk drive mode as well?
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Yes. When you initially plug in the phone select disk drive. Then go to settings and turn on USB debugging. Wait a few seconds to allow the head unit to register the action on the phone and then turn USB debugging off. After this you shouldn't need to mess with anything on the phone.
It is a hassle to do this all the time when I am constantly getting in and out of the car, so I only use the USB feature if I know I am going to be in the car for a while. When I had my incredible I could reconnect and disconnect all day without touching anything on my phone. The only way I have found to disable it completely is if you are rooted you can go in and rename the CD-ROM.iso file, which essentially disables this drive from being accessed and not have to go through all this nonsense. I have yet to root the TB, and this is enough to make me want to root. I guess I am waiting to see if someone finds a better solution other than rooting to get rid of this Verizon nonsense.
I have yet to connect my phone to my car audio system. Will the imperfections have me gnawing away at steering wheel?
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Better sound quality.
*EDIT* Plus you can control the music features through the head unit ie. skip, random, search, repeat, etc....
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Okay, I can appreciate how the DAC in a head unit might be better than the one in a phone, but I'm skeptical that the differences can be heard above the road noise. Plus, most people play lossy mp3's in the car anyway. If the source was lossless, then perhaps the quality would be discernible.
Your latter point, tho, is valid - except in my case where I like to play straight through random albums. I never have liked random songs so much. It totally messes up great conceptual albums like Pink floyd and others. I suppose I'm a purist in my thinking that to play one random song from an album dilutes the band's artistic statement. Of course, pop generally doesn't apply here.
I noticed this as well. so i just decided to use the standard aux cable through the headphone port.
occam's razor.
I can't seem to rename that file even with a root file manager. How do you do it?
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Direct connect Works!
I repeat direct connect works! I flashed the new radio (ruu) and then my normal tesla coil 1.1 rom over that. Sat in the car because i was curious and plugged my phone into the headunit's usb port and it worked. Read the sd card and everything. I didn't think that leaked ota would have fixed this but apparently it has?
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I repeat direct connect works! I flashed the new radio (ruu) and then my normal tesla coil 1.1 rom over that. Sat in the car because i was curious and plugged my phone into the headunit's usb port and it worked. Read the sd card and everything. I didn't think that leaked ota would have fixed this but apparently it has?
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also I do not have to switch the debugging feature...I just put it in disk drive mode and everything starts playing....I think it even sounds better coming from the tbolt rather than a flash drive; but maybe i'm just partial to my bolt lol
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Okay, I can appreciate how the DAC in a head unit might be better than the one in a phone, but I'm skeptical that the differences can be heard above the road noise. Plus, most people play lossy mp3's in the car anyway. If the source was lossless, then perhaps the quality would be discernible.
Your latter point, tho, is valid - except in my case where I like to play straight through random albums. I never have liked random songs so much. It totally messes up great conceptual albums like Pink floyd and others. I suppose I'm a purist in my thinking that to play one random song from an album dilutes the band's artistic statement. Of course, pop generally doesn't apply here.
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I have used BT audio since I bought my Moto Droid well over a year ago. Yes you can plainly hear the distortion even over road noise. I have a Pioneer headunit with BT headset/audio built in. You would be surprised how easy it is to discern the difference between streaming audio (pandora) and decent quality mp3 (256k). The stock BT stack is prone to artifacts that come across midrange speakers as pops. You end up thinking you blew a speaker. Change source / song and all is well. While I personally can hear a small improvement in the overall quality of audio running CM7 on my old droid vs liquid rom on my TB it isn't much different.
By the way agree on Pink Floyd, comfortably numb has to be one of my favorite songs on a great album.
I am still in looking at it
I have a lot of setting up to do...this is my first android device
When I got my first Android device I didn't sleep for 48 hours. I was on a 2 day tweaking binge. Seriously though, your going to love it and after you use it for a month or two you will never want to use anything else.
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When I got my first Android device I didn't sleep for 48 hours. I was on a 2 day tweaking binge. Seriously though, your going to love it and after you use it for a month or two you will never want to use anything else.
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1 or 2 day tweaking? I've been unsing android for over a year on two different phones and I'm still tweaking lots and lots of options! And I hardly ever get on my laptop or desktop anymore because my phone has replaced them. My phone has pretty much taken over the use of any other device, except for TV.
Congrats! I'm sure you'll love it like so many of us all have come to. Welcome to Android my friend
Just got my first Android device too, and what a phone to start with! The G2x whips my Blackberry's behind. I, too, will be geeking out all day.
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1 or 2 day tweaking? I hardly ever get on my laptop or desktop anymore because my phone has replaced them. My phone has pretty much taken over the use of any other device, except for TV.
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My Nandroided HD2 is the same way. I can do 95% of everything that I can do on my PC. Even TV, there are so many things streaming now. As long as I am in town with HSPDA or even 3G I can stream video forever.
Not much not to like about these phones as long as they run good.
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1 or 2 day tweaking? I've been unsing android for over a year on two different phones and I'm still tweaking lots and lots of options! And I hardly ever get on my laptop or desktop anymore because my phone has replaced them. My phone has pretty much taken over the use of any other device, except for TV.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I am still tweaking constantly, just not for 48 hours straight with no sleep.
is it suppose to come with a SD card??? I just opened mine and it was factory sealed but there is no SD card in the phone or in the box
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is it suppose to come with a SD card??? I just opened mine and it was factory sealed but there is no SD card in the phone or in the box
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No, I'm glad because I never use the ones that are supplied since there usually Class 2 cards. Go get yourself a 8gb Class 10 Transcend and you will thank me later.
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is it suppose to come with a SD card??? I just opened mine and it was factory sealed but there is no SD card in the phone or in the box
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I've never seen anything that says it should. I suppose it's become a common expectation now as even phones that have large internal storage have often still come with a small external card.
Honestly though, with 8 gig internal storage, what do I want with a 2gig card (what usually comes with these phones)? I'd probably end up replacing it by the time I used up the 8gig with a 16 or 32gig card anyway.
I picked mine up this morning, first to the local T-Mo store.
Got the phone, Skullcandy(blech) ink'd mic earphones (none included from LG), Body Glove cover, screen protector, and car charger for just over $550 out the door. The accessories were pretty much free!
Fast phone, even compared to the Nexus One with 2.3.3.
Now if I can figure out why it's not downloading my apps that I've got installed on the Nexus One...
Lol just got mine. The rep gave me the scrn protector free as well
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I know this has, nothing to do with the thunderbolt, but im really excited and figured id share with you guys that i just got my google music invite, so check your email if you still havent gotten yours. Goodluck!!
I don't see the appeal.
Put your music on your memory card, no buffering..drain battery while listening to it.
Put music in the "cloud", drain battery even faster because you're constantly downloading your music from the "cloud"..and waiting for it to buffer.
That's just me though..
20K songs uploaded ... don't think I could find a SD card that big
I can dl for offline listening on TB & replace as my mood changes.
20K song choices @ work ... this appeals to me big time as a music collecter.
feedhead said:
20K songs uploaded ... don't think I could find a SD card that big
I can dl for offline listening on TB & replace as my mood changes.
20K song choices @ work ... this appeals to me big time as a music collecter.
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20k? Really? REALLY? No need man, no need.
Perhaps you need an iPod Classic.
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20k? Really? REALLY? No need man, no need.
Perhaps you need an iPod Classic.
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Yes Really! ... and why would I want to carry around another device when I have access to over what is almost 150 gigs of music?
20,000 songs might be a big overkill, but so are alot of other things coming out. do we need quad-core processors inside mobile phones, no but its always fun just to have that option. And thats mainly the appeal for me its presents another option for me, and more options and competitions is always better, whether its deemed the most practical thing available right now or not
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I don't see the appeal.
Put your music on your memory card, no buffering..drain battery while listening to it.
Put music in the "cloud", drain battery even faster because you're constantly downloading your music from the "cloud"..and waiting for it to buffer.
That's just me though..
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You also don't have much music then. I got over 100GB and can't fit it on my phone. Doubt buffering will be even noticeable.
I totally enjoy music collection as much as the next person but honestly how many songs can you listen to out of that 20k+ collection. It is nice to have and bragging rights but come on lets be realistic. If you on average listen to 2 hours of music per day would take you over 2 years to dent that 20k library. Doubt people listen to 2 hours of music / 365 days a year. All in all it's new and trendy and hey it's cloud something so people will find a use but as already mentioned I mean 25g you have in SD space is still more then enough for songs you would listen to for the next year to come lol.
No bragging, this is realistic. I am a the kind of person that has music on constantly. Let's says for argument sake I listen to just 6hrs of music a day. Let's say the songs are of a 4 min average so 15 songs an hr ... 90 per day ... 20K in songs w/o repeating is 222 days worth.... Oh no, I think I need more space Google
For reference I have scrobbled 147K+ songs in 6+ years ... feedhead on Last.FM
Im waiting for mine. Ive got 130 gigs of music on my computer and I listen to more than 6 hours of music a day 365. While Im working I get to have headphones in, when Im home, I cant stand the radio. Heres to hoping I get my invite soon!
Just wanted to know what people have got running on thier systems now adays..
I had a 128g sdcard and a 32g USB in the PX3 that did the trick. But now I have changed cars and upgraded the unit.. am looking at using a few SSD's I have kicking around.
There was old threads on guys setting up external powered USB hubs and running 1t 2.5 drives when these units first came out..
But with the advent of low powered SSD's almost a dime a dozen.. (well 250gb for under $50).. with luck there is not too many barriers to plug and play..
I say that tongue in cheek as I know about the limits of Android previously seeing anything over 32gb & 64gb..but as it has matured it has been getting better with the storage situation..
So what is max people have got going at the moment?
While I am at it..
(And I didn't think it was right.to clutter up the ROMs threads with this question)
Split screen ROMs..
Just had a look at both devolopment ROMs and couldn't see if any had the ability.
I remember seeing a few units with this ability around the traps as I was searching for mine.. ( maybe just a sales gimick)
But the old transformers had this ability via the very talented Tim's rom work and I am surprised it hasn't become the norm in Android..
I do understand that we have 'draw over top of other apps' permission.. and that gmaps does do it's little minimizer thing..but it's kinda crude in that it is taking re-estate on top of say the music app..
A better look on these bigger screens would be GPS on one side and music on the other..
I mean they have the CPU and GPU memory to handle this..
The Android 8.0 ROMs do have split screen (even stock). With an app open, just press and hold the "recent apps" button and you can then select another app to run and they will run in split screen mode.
However, not all apps support this - and some will force-close as well. It's a nice feature to have, but it's a little limited right now.
Give it a try though...
Thanks for that will try it and report back.
Understand that it's also a safety issue while driving..
(Lol and that is another conversation ).
But seriously it would be better to set this up before hitting the road. i.e GPS navigation on one side and selection of music playing on the other..and or radio stations..
That way your not trying to reach across playing with it while driving.
I know, I know and it's been debated a tad in another thread. Thus the reason they are supposed to be locked down from driver interaction via motion sensors.
Which if a named brand, is a good idea to migrate liabilities.. you don't want to be held liable if some fool crashes and kills themselves and or others while using a entertainment system that comes stock with a car.. (nanny state type scenario).
This also brings up good steering wheel key mapping especially now that many of these units are going down the path of being knob less..and we are going for the full screen experience.
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Just wanted to know what people have got running on thier systems now adays..
I had a 128g SD card and a 32g USB in the PX3 that did the trick. But now I have changed cars and upgraded the unit.. am looking at using a few SSD's I have kicking around.
There was old threads on guys setting up external powered USB hubs and running 1t 2.5 drives when these units first came out..
But with the advent of low powered SSD's almost a dime a dozen.. (well 250gb for under $50).. with luck there is not too many barriers to plug and play..
I say that tongue in cheek as I know about the limits of Android previously seeing anything over 32gb & 64gb..but as it has matured it has been getting better with the storage situation..
So what is max people have got going at the moment?
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128GB sd card, formatted Fat32 (by android unit itself)
Works fine except
Oreo want to "check CF card for errors" each time it comes out of sleep, or on boot.
With and 8GB or 16GB CF card, that does not take too much time, but a 128GB CF takes about 45 seconds !!!
Maybe a USB SSD (as opposed to a USD Flash Drive stick), would not require this error Check. I suspect a USB Flash drive will.
This alone might be the justification for a USB SSD
Haven't been able to test it as yet .
Seems I got the slow boat from China on this supplier of SSD and M2 housings..
With luck they are here this week and can run some tests and report back.
Pretty sure these are not USB 3 connections we have but USB 2?.. need to check the specs..do know there is 3 USB inputs on the unit..
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Haven't been able to test it as yet .
Seems I got the slow boat from China on this supplier of SSD and M2 housings..
With luck they are here this week and can run some tests and report back.
Pretty sure these are not USB 3 connections we have but USB 2?.. need to check the specs..do know there is 3 USB inputs on the unit..
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Might do better to actually measure the speed with a 3.0 USB device.
They can say anything in the spec !!!
It may be 3.0, but it also may be slow !!
Finally the bits and pieces arrived today and had a quick play with it..
So far not looking good.
Will document it a bit more and report back..
But it seems the same old story as with the PX3 machines..and the limitations of Android.
While this is being addressed in newer versions of phones and Android version upgrades.. i.e the phones with 128 and 256g ..
These units are still limited to the lower end spectrum.
But with that being said..
The 180g SSD and housing through the machine into a tantrum.. as in pulling to much power through the ports it seems. As lost GSP ability..
Yes truely.. could not get a satellite fix . Pulled the drive and it worked.. put 32gig USB in..not drama..SSD back in and same..
Dropped the 256g M2 in.. formatted as Fat32.. and it was seen via that machine..but as I was in a hurry..I didn't get time to copy anything across to it..
Had a quick play tonight and was thinking about transfer from internal memory to it..but now it's not being seen..
Will put it through the format again and see if it works..
Got to be noted I am using generic Chinese housings..and thus anything could be up with these..
As even with the formatting..there is a bit to play around with..as in..my win10 machines are not seeing them but when I plug them into the Synology they are showing up fine..
Once again.. what have others been successful with or is it just the 128g USBs sticks that are going to have to do?.
And from reading..most are only loading up 1x of the USB ports due to the problematic USB board/port burn out?..
Seems a waste to have 3x USB ports and can't use them.. have tested all 3 with the 32g USB..and they are seeing it and playing music and video off it..
Personally, I'm happy just using the SD card slots. With a custom ROM, 128GB NTFS cards work great (read and write). I recently just tried disabling the filesystem check as well and now they basically mount almost instantly. Since i never remove them, I don't see the need to check the filesystems every time the unit comes out of sleep. So far, I haven't had any issues. If I ever do run into issues, I'll re-enabled the filesystem check since it only took a few seconds with NTFS anyway - even with fully-loaded 128GB SD cards.
For me, with (2) SD cards slots and 128GB SD cards (never tried 256GB cards) - that is plenty of storage. Plus, you can always switch SD cards as well. I just don't have the need for more that 256GB of storage on my head-unit. I'm guessing that you could use 128GB or 256GB NTFS USB thumb drives as well (so 3x128GB or probably even 3x256GB). You just need to root and/or install a custom ROM. It's really easy to do - with all of the effort you are putting into trying to make things work with stock un-rooted, you can have easily installed a custom ROM and went that route. You can always go back to stock un-rooted if you want/need to.
Or - maybe you can connect a powered USB hub if USB power is the issue? Obviously, you'd need to figure out how to power it, but I'm sure it can be done...
Yes.. chances are I will go down the custom rom route.
Just haven't had the time to sit in the car for the afternoon and flash it.
The unit I have got hasn't got sdcard slots.
(Or it may have but from some reading there is a possibility that there is one hidden behind the facing they put on to suit each car... I did have a check before install on how that is put on and seems it's just a set of screws.. and I suppose I can just send an email to the team and ask..lol)
That was the setup on the PX3 unit just had a 128 sdcard and it worked fine..
Only reason I grabbed the housing for the SSD's and M2 was they where sitting doing nothing so I might as well use them for something and or give them away.
Anyway will book an afternoon in for a play as the after market reversing cam wiring harness turned up today.. with luck it's just plug and play..
Might flash a rom and upgrade the MCU..
As per banter in some of the other threads..once the setup is done and I am a happy camper with stability.. then won't be a flashaholic as don't see the need to flash for flashing sake..just want to jump in and GPS, music, Radio or watch porn with the girl in the car..
Lol..I. Saying that just to get a chuckle from you know who...?
@jtrosky
@dgcruzing
How did you manage to disable the filesystem check after sleep?
I use tweo 128gb sticks on my PX5 MTCE device and they took about 30-40s to be mounted, because they're checked for errors each time.
This is very annoying - could you tell me how you disabled it (or any workaround)?
Thank you!