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The "my TyTn works just fine" post

I get scared real easy, and I'm now starting to worry about the TyTn. Several people are now reporting problems with these devices, including serious hardware problems.
So please comfort me; your TyTn works just great right?........righ?

Mine is fine so far, no key problems or screen alignments only problem i have is slow access to web sites with tmobile
Cheers
Chris

This is a good idea, but unfortuntely your going to get a pretty skewed result seen how most ppl that have issues are on these boards because they want to resolve them, if your device is working fine its less likely you will be at this juncture to post 'all's well'.
It seems a massive amount of problems seem to be directed to the Vodaphone models and not necessarily the TyTN models. Also other forums arent reporting wide spread problems, and furthermore I just spoke (email) with 2 other Australians who had purchased HTC TyTNs from USA, and they havent had any issues with their devices.
I hope this information is of some comfort to you. If it helps I had the same feeling with the jasjar as it had widespread complaints, although m ainly software ones which I knew could and were addressed.

Trion ... Can't stop singing praises
Really happy with my Trion.
I had started with the original XDA which was the first one of it's kind and kind of cool but that quickly fell out of use due to the phone usability and the need to always use a stylus. I was really happy with the Smartphones as it really was usable using one hand but when the Trion came out I thought it was time to take the plunge back to a PPC, well at least as a office phone. Haven't looked back. Thejog dial button works a charm and with all the extra buttons you can actually use the Trion full time without use of the stylus. WLAN functions perfectly even with Skype. Push email functions like a charm syncing contacts and calander, tasks and email instantly (I recommend mail2web as a cheap way of implementing push email). A2DP actually works and is finally usable especially with the A2DP improvement hack. Now listening to music is crystal clear with no skipping (I'm using the Motorola HT820 which gives start stop pause functionality and with some other hacks you can program the speaker button to trigger programs such as voice command). Tomtom works fine. Definately the 400 Mhz CPU has made the Trion function well with most apps.
The size is slightly smaller than the Wizard but it actually makes a huge difference. Pictures are actually usable with 2MP and a flash light which helps a bit as well.
I finally found the perfect business phone I can use!

TYTN
Mine work fine now for 3 weeks w/o any soft reset.
English version from the Netherlands
Only 2 time (in the night) he was crashed but I think it's because I use pocket wakeup.
Michel

Mine is fine (vodafone v1605) although I cant get vodafone live just a blank screen but the rest of the web is great. No Issues after a hard restet when I first got it, it seems I wasnt the first person with it as I didnt have to set it up and it had 2 minutes on the call timers. But apart from that mine works great.

hey,
i've had my v1605 for a total of 22 hours now. I got mine on a wicked upgrade deal (released from contract for free and got handset for free too)
So far I must say that I haven't found any issues with this baby.
Here are my ROM details - are they different from others?
ROM 1.20.161.3
ROM Date 06/06/06 - (eeeek!)
radio 1.03.06.00
protocol 32.34.7010.01W
PTM

HTC TyTN Pro here
ROM version: 1.18.255.3
ROM date: 5/30/06
radio: 1.03.03.10
protocol: 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM: 1.18.255.105
waiting for the 1st ROM update to fix some minor issues (like not being able to hold the comm-manager button to switch to vibrate mode).

Mine works very well....I never soft reset it, I've had it for 2 days and it works great!!!!!!

I've got two and they are both fantastic.
Not had any problems at all and 3g absolutely flies along!
Both are v1605
ROM 1.20.161.3
ROM Date 06/06/06
radio 1.03.06.00
protocol 32.34.7010.01W

Had no problems with my HTC TyTN here.
Works great.

could people post the start of there serial numbers please which are working fine.
i.e HT26

My XDA Trion working just perfectly and without any problem at all...thanks god ^^

Orbit2 or HTC Touch Cruise P3650?

Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
Thanke you!

Nobody knows?
Is any test between these to phones on net?
Thanks!

IMHO the o2 has a better form factor...it's more rounded...
but other than that, i'm pretty sure its 100% the same exact hardware on the inside...and as a touch cruise owner, i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon

surgex0 said:
i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon
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Don't take that for gospel. I have owned many PPC's going back to 2000 and i can tell you from my experience, the TC performs just fine in day-to-day operation. As a matter of fact, it performs much better than my last 2 devices, a Treo 750 and the KJAM.

1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?

o2orbit said:
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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I have no such "problems" with my TC. However, if you want to nitpick, the FM antenna is not very strong so there can be interference if used in a place like a metropolitan city.
Other than that, I have not had any problems.

4.) bad painting
all the time...all you have to do is be viewing a web site in whatever browser and press the phone key. Depending on what other applications you have open, and how much ram you are using, it can take up to 1-5 seconds to fully "paint" the dialpad on the screen, piece by piece.
If you are scrolling through anything, lets say the programs menu, or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
I can remember back about 15 years ago, to my first desktop PC...it was a pentium 133 MHZ, with an ATI 3d card that had 8MB of ram I believe, and it ran windows 3.11 for workgroups, and then windows 95.
Lets just say even that comp (if it were still put together) could out do the touch cruise graphics wise.
As for the other problems you are describing, I have not had any issues with those. For the most part, it's just the graphics \ user interface stuff and lack of proper video drivers.
The actual radio hardware is fine.
If i were you, I would wait until all the issues are worked out before you spend alot of money on a handheld..unless you really need it. I'm actually thinking of selling my touch cruise and getting an Atom V.

both are same inside, but i'm on my 3rd O2 Orbit 2 due to cosmetics, i get the feeling the new 'stylised' case for the Orbit 2 is rushed, as all 3 have gaps, off centre screen and now my 3rd one the GPS plug keeps falling out! lol
i'd go for the original 'design' as most complaints i've heard have been about O2 version - BUT just cosmetics, not hardware.
i really can't be bothered to send this back, but will think twice about what i upgrade to next :/

or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
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If you're using PIE, there is a fix for that. After applying the fix, scrolling is just fine.
I also have no scrolling issues using Netfront 3.5.

cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.

o2orbit said:
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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On the TC
1) Wi-fi is fine
2) Only used BT to transfer files between laptop and phone, works fine.
3) No problem with earphone
4) not sure, the actual radio ROM (reception, etc) or FM Radio. 1st one is fine, 2nd one reception can suck.
5) Sux donkey balls. See the post about dialer skin lag. very true.
6) Never happened.
The device is fine overall with day to day use. but sometimes stuff just won't freakin work or will lag. every once in awhile my GPS will take forever to lock or when it does it will be off by a bit. sometimes windows live mail won't send/receive when i want it to. other times i feel the device just can't handle multiple things at the same time. opening audio manager when you have several hundred music files takes about 5-10 secs. then when listening to music while typing an sms, you will feel some lag while typing as opposed to typing with no music playing.

I have an Orbit 2 ...build wise its fantastic. Before I bought it, I was going to buy the iphone, the salesman in the O2 shop gave me a demo on the iphone's rigidity and build quality, he held the iphone flat in his palm with the screen up and slammed it down hard onto a wooden desk from a height of approx 1 metre....it looked very impressive...when I got my Orbit 2 I did the same.....not even a scratch....

Also thought I would comment on BT issues..since I failed to mention it in my previous post
Handsfree works great.
I have a handsfree system in my automobile, and I have a motorola HS850 as well.
No problems whatsoever.
Also, activesync works great over BT, so does internet sharing using the PAN.
File transfer takes a long time, but that is to be expected, since BT data transfer rates aren't as good as USB.
A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
I emailed HTC about this and their response was less than helpful.
They gave me a bunch of a2dp headset models that they have "tested"
and then told me that just because they were tested doesn't mean they are fully functional without issues.
I tried to tell them that it wasn't the headsets and it was the device itself, but they didn't seem to listen to what I had to say.

Never tried a2dp, but i don't have a hard time seeing this happening with this device. just the kind of thing to be expected. and i wanted to have stereo bluetooth to listen to music, etc. is it really that bad? guess i won't be trying that.
as far as build quality, it's good so far. except the loose volume switch on the side that rattles. kinda lame there. i've heard of the orbit2 jog dials falling off. there's another thread about that somewhere.

surgex0 said:
cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.
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I'm one of the ones not having a problem with my TC. I agree the web using ie is slow but is also on every other wm device I've had. So I use opera mini.
Upwards of $1000?? Where the hell are you buying it anyway? That's a bit exagerated isn't it? I concur tho that phones are getting more and more expensive and the quality of build is not equal to cost. Actually my gf's t-mo go phone cost $40 and is seemingly indestructable.

surgex0 said:
A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
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You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all. I can even surf the web while using A2DP using Opera Mini or Mobile without issue. Keep in mind that I push multi-tasking on my devices.
I will say however, that using the S9's with the TC in NYC is crappy due to the weakness of the BT signal. I used to have the same issue with my Treo 750 using WM5 then when I upgraded to WM6 the issue seemed to lessen enough to the point where I didn't quite mind the "occasional" skip.

o2orbit said:
Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
Thanke you!
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Did they up the ram? Because 64mb is unaceptable. Causes freeze-ups and shut downs. Gotta have 128mb minimum.

JNGold said:
You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all.
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Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
And also, to comment about the price thing...the Sedna costs 1000 and the touch cruise is currently going for 700-800...I paid 850 for mine but i got it after one of the first shipments to the wholesaler. This is in the US though...I've heard these same exact phones cost like $50 in hong kong. Dunno if it's true but...search google checkout for the HTC Sedna, and see how much they cost.

$50 for a Cruise in HK??? no way. link?

surgex0 said:
Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
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Yea, surgex0, you might wanna do some investigation, b/c A2DP works perfectly for me also. No skipping, great quality, and I can multitask w/o a real slowdown in performance. I've used it with my Samsung A2DP headphones, my Sony A2DP input/output adapter for my home stereo, and random A2DP demo products in stores. No issues here... Maybe try other headphones, or if you are on a custom rom try the original rom.

Looking for another dialer to stop accidental answers

Ok heres the deal my boss bought a sprint touch pro and everytime he gets a phone call even with the phone locked he either accepts or declines the call while he is taking it out of the case.
I have already done a search and this appears to be a major problem with the diamond with no fix really.
On my Hermes I have used a opal canvas dialer skin that you actually have to slide to the left and right to answer a call. Does anyone know of a dialer like that that will work with the touch pro?
I know s2u2 or whatever it is will work but thats too bulky and won't work for him. To me this really seems like a major flaw in the phone design and I may not get the phone myself unless I can find a workable fix..
I'm really surprised this isn't complained about more but a slide to answer reject dialer seems to easiest way to fix to me.
Any help appreciated.

MrDSL said:
Ok heres the deal my boss bought a sprint touch pro and everytime he gets a phone call even with the phone locked he either accepts or declines the call while he is taking it out of the case.
I have already done a search and this appears to be a major problem with the diamond with no fix really.
On my Hermes I have used a opal canvas dialer skin that you actually have to slide to the left and right to answer a call. Does anyone know of a dialer like that that will work with the touch pro?
I know s2u2 or whatever it is will work but thats too bulky and won't work for him. To me this really seems like a major flaw in the phone design and I may not get the phone myself unless I can find a workable fix..
I'm really surprised this isn't complained about more but a slide to answer reject dialer seems to easiest way to fix to me.
Any help appreciated.
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THIS is what you need!
This disabled the on-screen answer keys, so you can only answer with the hardware keys. Works perfect for me, and it's a very small app.

johanromijn said:
THIS is what you need!
This disabled the on-screen answer keys, so you can only answer with the hardware keys. Works perfect for me, and it's a very small app.
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Thanks man that looks like its gonna work..He only wants the hard keys to answer..

Doesn't work with CDMA devices
I think he may just return the phone cause its that annoying since none of his calls go through..Even when he has his headset on if he just moves wrong it rejects the call..I have been using his phone for about an hour and it happens to me also..I want to throw the damn phone against the wall!!!
I tried some sensorapp and that doesn't work also and changes the unlock screen too much

If I could just find a dialer like the opal one that you have to slide to the left or right to answer or reject this would be fine..

i think the maker of the program will eventually fix it to support CDMA devices. why not give him a message?

chrisbjr said:
i think the maker of the program will eventually fix it to support CDMA devices. why not give him a message?
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He does have it under the todo list but it won't do my boss much good since he is missing every single call he gets..
I really thought he was exaggerating so thats why I decided to use the phone and I haven't been able to answer one single call. This is using the case that came with the phone and I can't believe this was not noticed during some testing phase or something..

I noticed you mentioned S2U2, and I'm curious why you decided against it.
As long as you enable Slide 2 Answer, and enable the D-Pad option, your boss' problem should go away. The D-Pad option will allow him to answer calls using the D-Pad and not have to touch the screen at all.

NotATreoFan said:
I noticed you mentioned S2U2, and I'm curious why you decided against it.
As long as you enable Slide 2 Answer, and enable the D-Pad option, your boss' problem should go away. The D-Pad option will allow him to answer calls using the D-Pad and not have to touch the screen at all.
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It would be fine for me but my boss is kinda weird about installing stuff on his phone and I know when I have used s2u2 on my hermes it took more battery life etc and i sometimes ran into weird glitches. Which is okay for me but he would have a fit.
It needs to be as close to stock as it can be..
If he returns the phone then I won't have to worry about always fixing it LOL so I may just tell him to do that..
It just really amazes me something like this was missed and it also amazes me that the low speakerphone volume is also on this phone. I just noticed that. My hermes is the same way and apparently being able to hear the person on the other end isn't important enough for HTC to worry about fixing. Its not like I wanna hear the other person I'm talking to on my phone..
They did at least fix the MS Voice Command not working with BT headsets!!

I use Sensor Lock. You can customize the gestures to only a 1/2 turn to lock, 1/2 turn the other way to unlock. It works very well. S2U2 doesn't work well on the Touch Pro yet...

MrDSL said:
It just really amazes me something like this was missed and it also amazes me that the low speakerphone volume is also on this phone. I just noticed that. My hermes is the same way and apparently being able to hear the person on the other end isn't important enough for HTC to worry about fixing. Its not like I wanna hear the other person I'm talking to on my phone..
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There's apparently a lot of variation on volume between different versions of the same handset. I noted in this forum that there were a lot of people complaining about the volume being too low, but there were also a couple complaining about it being too high.
You mentioned low speaker phone volume on your Hermes. I have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) with the original ROM, and I almost always have to turn the volume down all the way to use the speaker phone. I have to turn it up all the way when I'm using the earpiece (i.e., as a normal phone), but that volume is definitely too high for a quiet room on the speaker phone. (And they didn't give separate volume settings for earpiece and speaker phone, grr...)

MrDSL said:
If I could just find a dialer like the opal one that you have to slide to the left or right to answer or reject this would be fine..
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Exactly! I've been looking for an Opal-like dialer for the Fuze (Touch Pro) -- but no luck so far. Anybody seen one floating around in .cab form?

AT&T Fuze

I just bought an HTC fuze from AT&T, my tilt went down and i couldn't wait for the Touch Pro 2 (or what ever HTC phone AT&T will get next) is there anything i can put on it without having to hard SPL my device that will make it boot up faster and run smoother thanks in advance

flash the latest at&t official rom
then look at the tweaks... aka advanced config, diamondtweak

I just received one on Friday from AT&T as a temporary replacement for my BB Bold. I'm disappointed in the Fuze and may send it back for an 8900.
The TouchFlo 3D seemed to make the phone lag, I disabled it (didn't like it much anyway) and it seems faster. The voice quality isn't nearly as good as the Bold. The incoming volume is low and tinny, the outgoing seems to have a lot of background noise and people say it doesn't sound good.
Picked up DiamondTweak to see if that will solve the low volume. It seems to be better but I won't really know until I'm in NYC next week to see if I can hear on the street. Voice quality though still isn't good.
The screen is much better than the Tilt, at least it is readable outside. Haven't tried the GPS yet, from what I've read here it doesn't seem promising. Just loaded Garmin Mobile XT last night and will try it today.

Install a new AudioPara3.csv. I have attached the file. Extract it with either the built in *.zip unarchiver, PocketRAR, or Total commander, and overwrite the audiopara3.csv which is in your windows directory.

Thanks. I was reading about that today. I'll try it and see what happens.

Overall quality trend of recent HTC devices

Hi!
I am wondering if I am the only one who thinks that quality of HTC products is constantly decreasing...
Some years ago, I had a HTC Magician which was a great mobile phone. The metal case showed absolutely no signs of wear and tear after using it for two years and the software was at least what I call stable. There were some minor bugs and the fact that all data is lost on power failure (broken as designed), but it had more flexibility than any other phone in its time.
Then I got an HTC Elf. Its case is significantly worse compared to Magician. The software was unstable when using features like the camera, because HTC decided to make the built-in apps more memory-intensive than the hardware can take. It was usable, but needed a soft reset almost every day. Using the custom WM6 firmware from xda-devs fixed some of the problems (and brought some new ones ).
Now I am using an HTC Touch Diamond for half a year and I have never been so disappointed by a phone. The phone hangs during almost every call, the GSM/UMTS module stops working in standby mode for no particular reason and so on. Whenever I am waiting for a call, I have to check every once in a while whether the phone is still connected with my service provider. Sometimes I have the phone wake up from standby and see a mosaic like graphics error. Frequently, TouchFLO crashes and I am repeatedly prompted to file a bug report until I soft reset the phone.
I already tried a hard reset without installing my favourite apps afterwards, so I am using the phone out-of-the-box and it really sucks as I primarily need a reliable mobile phone.
Additionally, I used HTC Elf and Diamond with automotive Handsfree kits from Mercedes-Benz, JVC and Parrot and neither worked. After each call, I have to reconnect the phone manually, the bluetooth protocols for dialing a number from the carkit's controls does not work and so on. There are some Sony Ericsson and Nokia phones in my family which all work fine with these carkits.
I have an iPod Touch which works so smoothly and I rebooted it three times in a year (when I bought it and with each firmware update). No problems so far...
So I ordered a Sony Ericsson C905 now - bye bye HTC. Sorry.
Anyone else who can share this opinion?
Regards,
Schlot

But this is nothing related just to HTC
In general all products now are made with lower quality than before, they are made to last less so you go and buy another one!
Of course there are some exceptions...
I´ll stick to HTC and WM definetly!! as any other brand will present the same situation.
Not any other brand will have the great suport and knowledge that XDA gives to HTC/WM devices

I've had several HTC Devices, starting with the Magician, and the only time the build quality was not up to scratch was with my Hermes. As for the Hero I have now...it's probably the best built HTC device I've had.

I've had the Touch and Touch Diamond, and I've had none of the problems that you've been having. My Touch Diamond has a much better build quality than my previous phones, including the Touch. It sounds like the network you're using is rubbish, and what's your problem with soft resets? I've always soft reset pretty much every piece of technology I've had at least once per day...

orb3000 said:
But this is nothing related just to HTC
In general all products now are made with lower quality than before, they are made to last less so you go and buy another one!
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Hi again,
so now, I have a Sony Ericsson C905. Of course, it does not have that "smartphone feeling", so it is not that much customized like a WM device. My last three phones had enough setup options to keep me playing around for a week after a hard reset. The "dumbphone" is ready to use out-of-the-box, which is good and bad indeed. 10 minutes after unboxing, everything is configured and working. Then:
- BT connection to my Mac. Address Book sync, copy ringtones and files. Just works.
- Open the camera lid. Loads 2 seconds and is ready to shoot. No memory problems afterwards...
- BT connection to my carkit. Pairing, ready. HFP, A2DP, AVRCP, PBAP and SMS work fine.
So I do like smartphones as their functionality impress me, but when it comes to reliability, a normal phone does a better job FOR MY PURPOSE.
Materials and mechanical finish of C905 feels a bit better than HTC Touch and Diamond, comparable to HTC Magician.
Key response is faster than any WM phone I ever had.
BUT it does not have an offline wikipedia. So ideally, I need a smartphone and a dumbphone, so now I use the C905 and an iPod Touch.
It sounds like the network you're using is rubbish
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Vodafone DE, no problems with Nokia, Sony Ericsson etc.
and what's your problem with soft resets?
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I am a Mac user for a while now. My Mac is rebooted whenever there is a new OSX release. Same for my iPod Touch. Do you reset your car every day? Your TV? Satellite Receiver? Grandma's pacemaker?
It is OK for me to soft reset a PDA or something. But it is not ok to miss urgent calls because a phone does not work without a daily reset (my opinion).
I don't want to say that HTC devices are just bad (otherwise I would not have bought them for three generations). But they really have to work on reliability and usability.
They have to prioritize features to see which are important (phone, adress book, communications) and which are "nice to have" (customization, games, 3D GUI, ...).

I have had a Touch (Elf) and My Diamond II (6 months) and the build quality and problems you have had a have not had at all. I used to be a loyal Nokia and MOTO fan but now will never change from an HTC. But I may change to Android if we will never get a port for it on the TD2. But that is coming along now so yeah. We will see what comes out in 2010.

I'm finding I don't have to keep rebooting my HTC Hero. Android is well stable.