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S100 > S200 Worth the upgrade ?

Well this is what I have been deciding for sometime now.
And here is my verdict:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48608

I think it's worth it. Orange now have upgrade stock and I've ordered my M600 today. My M500 will probably appear on eBay in the next few days.
Someone else in our office has just got an M600 having upgraded from the M500 and he really likes it - and so do I. Since I'm due for a free upgrade I thought - what the heck...go for it. 8)

I never had S100 but I still have my old 9090. I think you should go for it. The new WM5 is faster, cleaner and more stable (no more soft reset). And not being worried about losing everything when the battery dies. As for the processor, it is right, the S200 is a bit slower, you’ll feel it while playing movies with tcpmp. But using an overclocking app. Will fix it.

if you encode your video correctly, eg in 320x240 res, video playback is no problem whatsoever without overclocking

Indeed!
The gadget it nice, small, stylish black (at least are the XDA Neos), definitely better than the Wizard, and has no problems playing movies without overclocking if encoded with PocketDVDStudio.
It is THE phone!
P.S. The Start and OK/Close buttons are life-savers 8)

I've now upgraded and it was definitely worth it. 8)

When playing movies shot with my Canon Ixus @ 320x240 the Charmer stutters and the S100 does not.
Why would I want to 'upgrade' to something that I need to 'overclock' to get to the same speed that I have already ?
I think I will wait till the next version !
Hopefully they will have sorted it by then.

I would just upgrade again when the next model is out :lol:

gregory_marsh said:
Why would I want to 'upgrade' to something that I need to 'overclock' to get to the same speed that I have already ?
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I think it is something like this... Let's say I have a Pentiun III (256MB) with Windows 98SE(WM2003SE Device) and I upgrade it to WinXP (WM2005 Device) .... I believe I WILL have to overclock to have same performance speed when let's say opening a document, or starting a game.
I don't know but i believe it is WM5 that is slowing the device down. I guess that's why even if were in 2006 there are still computers running Windows 98. So i guess you are right. If you don't need (yet)the advantages that WM5 brings then you could wait for the next generation Processors so that it will run "at par" as the S200.
I came from a h6340 (OMAP 200Mhz WM2003) to the Universal (Intel 520Mhz WM5) and no matter how you look at it, the Universal is so much faster than the HP h6340.
Oh, BTW... out from the box, the universal was "kinda" slow and I would classify it as a little non-responsive when opening a lot of programs at same time. Now though after a few ROM updates, everything is running quite quick.

First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".
I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.
In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap

montana said:
First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".
I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.
In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap
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Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.
- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
- It's a more radical change than XP was, and less documented and user-conscious than it should.
- Phone caller ID is worse. Pictures are unreadable on screen. No options.
- Phone directional keys don't work as expected.
- ¡Notes on contacts are limited in size!
- flimsy pen
Really, very disappointed.... :evil:
On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough

montana said:
First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".
I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.
In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap
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Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.
- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
- It's a more radical change than XP was, and less documented and user-conscious than it should.
- Phone caller ID is worse. Pictures are unreadable on screen. No options.
- Phone directional keys don't work as expected.
- ¡Notes on contacts are limited in size!
- flimsy pen
Really, very disappointed.... :evil:
On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough

Looking Glass said:
Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.
- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
.....
- flimsy pen
Really, very disappointed.... :evil:
On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough
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I think you might need to return your unit and get a replacement. Something must be wrong with your unit, or might because of some programs you installed on it?
I had a XDA Neo (same as S200) with JAMin WWE ROM for more than 2 month. The XDA Neo runs very fast and smooth. I never got any problem with it. I normally run multiple programs (2-5) at the same time. For example, media player to listen to mp3s and watch ebooks, and also have the dictionary (Lexisgoo 2.0) running. I never had complaints about the speed. The OMAP CPU is defferent than Xscale, you can not compare them by MHz.
I did not reset the unit in more than one week. The unit never (or at least rarely) hangs. Extremely stable. So, I guess you must installed some program not very compatible with your unit. I have installed more than 20 programs on it, but of course, I tested more than probably 40 programs in my first month after I got this unit, and deleted all the other programs which I believed it made the unit unstable.
I am also pretty satisfied with the battery life. It can last about one week (or at least 4-5 days) for regular use, if I do not use it for long time (more than 30-60 minutes talk) chat on the phone.
The BT is very stable. I use it to connect to my car (I have blue tooth system in my Prius), and it worked beautifully. But to save the battery, I normally turn the BT off when I get off the car.
Sometimes, I guess, you really need to test all the programs you installed. A lot of programs may not work right for WM5, and I also found that some programs it actually may work for WM5 (according to online info or reviews), but it did cause problems on my unit, and made the unit not very stable. You have to spend sometime to figure out. After you done this, you can always use the same programs on it, just keep updating when new version coming out. That is what I did for all my PDA phones.
Hope it helps.
By the way, I am using the overlocking now (252 MHz), and the unit runs even more faster and stable.

Hi!
I agree that no comparison is good based on Mhz, I know about it, but things are slower. Example: after a soft reset, (Several times a day) just accesing a contact whose name begins with "Z" in a 3000+ contact list, takes .... almost 20 seconds!
Loading TomTom 5? some 30 seconds before getting back the control of the thing. Never mind of using the TT5 if you receive an incoming call while tt5 loads..... it will be gone! An I have more than 39 Mb free memory!
Screens redraws that you can "see" almost by the pixel, etc. And I have just 6 apps loaded, tt5, Check Point, Pocket Earth, and a couple of games, none of then running altogether, but for the tt5-check point combo.
I know I can not return my unit for servicing just based on those problems.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Or could I?

Is it worth it?

That's the question to the WM6 upgraders. Please comment if you've made the generic upgrade. Should you have stayed with WM5, waited for the official release, or happy you used a generic ROM? Thanks for your comments!

unlike other HTC products official update to wm6 make me no problems at all now.
no buggy cameras, no short battery life, no slow system issues....

I just upgraded my phone and my wife's to WM6. I use all of the registry tweaks and such with my phone so WM5 was usable for me prior to the upgrade. However my wife does not like all of that extra stuff so she was running WM5 in it's default configuration and she was constantly complaining about hers. I used the generic upgrade on both phones and I found that there was not as much stuff that needed tweaking on mine and she doesn't complain about her phone (in it's default configuration) at all anymore. In both cases the OS seems a lot more efficient and stable, plus the generic release is missing most of the try & buy/at&t bloatware crap that comes with the branded release. Bottom line I say go for it, you'll be pleased.

DocKill said:
That's the question to the WM6 upgraders. Please comment if you've made the generic upgrade. Should you have stayed with WM5, waited for the official release, or happy you used a generic ROM? Thanks for your comments!
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My device is a Telstra (Australia) branded WM5 Treo. I upgraded a few weeks back to the generic WM6 ROM because Telstra still does not have their WM6 ROM released, whereas other carriers (3 and Voda) have had their ROMs out for months. In the end I couldn't wait.
Anyway, the upgrade went fine and I am much happier with WM6. It is faster in every way, especially when answering a call. Where previously under WM5 there seemed to be a delay of 2-3 seconds between pressing the answer button and actually being connected, it is now instantaneous.
It may only sound small, but the new speakerphone and mute buttons on the active call screen are very handy!
The only weird thing I have noticed is that when you open a Calendar item to view (i.e. not edit) the left soft key used to be "Edit" on WM5 but on WM6 it is "Reply" and it is greyed out as you'd expect because it is not an email message! I can't figure out why Palm made that particular change.
Aside from that, it's all good!

Orbit2 or HTC Touch Cruise P3650?

Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
Thanke you!

Nobody knows?
Is any test between these to phones on net?
Thanks!

IMHO the o2 has a better form factor...it's more rounded...
but other than that, i'm pretty sure its 100% the same exact hardware on the inside...and as a touch cruise owner, i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon

surgex0 said:
i can tell you it's a lag ridden slow ass POS..return it while u still can, cause drivers aren't coming any time soon
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Don't take that for gospel. I have owned many PPC's going back to 2000 and i can tell you from my experience, the TC performs just fine in day-to-day operation. As a matter of fact, it performs much better than my last 2 devices, a Treo 750 and the KJAM.

1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?

o2orbit said:
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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I have no such "problems" with my TC. However, if you want to nitpick, the FM antenna is not very strong so there can be interference if used in a place like a metropolitan city.
Other than that, I have not had any problems.

4.) bad painting
all the time...all you have to do is be viewing a web site in whatever browser and press the phone key. Depending on what other applications you have open, and how much ram you are using, it can take up to 1-5 seconds to fully "paint" the dialpad on the screen, piece by piece.
If you are scrolling through anything, lets say the programs menu, or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
I can remember back about 15 years ago, to my first desktop PC...it was a pentium 133 MHZ, with an ATI 3d card that had 8MB of ram I believe, and it ran windows 3.11 for workgroups, and then windows 95.
Lets just say even that comp (if it were still put together) could out do the touch cruise graphics wise.
As for the other problems you are describing, I have not had any issues with those. For the most part, it's just the graphics \ user interface stuff and lack of proper video drivers.
The actual radio hardware is fine.
If i were you, I would wait until all the issues are worked out before you spend alot of money on a handheld..unless you really need it. I'm actually thinking of selling my touch cruise and getting an Atom V.

both are same inside, but i'm on my 3rd O2 Orbit 2 due to cosmetics, i get the feeling the new 'stylised' case for the Orbit 2 is rushed, as all 3 have gaps, off centre screen and now my 3rd one the GPS plug keeps falling out! lol
i'd go for the original 'design' as most complaints i've heard have been about O2 version - BUT just cosmetics, not hardware.
i really can't be bothered to send this back, but will think twice about what i upgrade to next :/

or a website, the screen flickers, and lags.
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If you're using PIE, there is a fix for that. After applying the fix, scrolling is just fine.
I also have no scrolling issues using Netfront 3.5.

cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.

o2orbit said:
1. Wi-Fi
2. BT
3. Front earphone
4. Radio
5. Bad painting
6. Shutting down suddenly
Are these problems have only orbit2 or both?
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On the TC
1) Wi-fi is fine
2) Only used BT to transfer files between laptop and phone, works fine.
3) No problem with earphone
4) not sure, the actual radio ROM (reception, etc) or FM Radio. 1st one is fine, 2nd one reception can suck.
5) Sux donkey balls. See the post about dialer skin lag. very true.
6) Never happened.
The device is fine overall with day to day use. but sometimes stuff just won't freakin work or will lag. every once in awhile my GPS will take forever to lock or when it does it will be off by a bit. sometimes windows live mail won't send/receive when i want it to. other times i feel the device just can't handle multiple things at the same time. opening audio manager when you have several hundred music files takes about 5-10 secs. then when listening to music while typing an sms, you will feel some lag while typing as opposed to typing with no music playing.

I have an Orbit 2 ...build wise its fantastic. Before I bought it, I was going to buy the iphone, the salesman in the O2 shop gave me a demo on the iphone's rigidity and build quality, he held the iphone flat in his palm with the screen up and slammed it down hard onto a wooden desk from a height of approx 1 metre....it looked very impressive...when I got my Orbit 2 I did the same.....not even a scratch....

Also thought I would comment on BT issues..since I failed to mention it in my previous post
Handsfree works great.
I have a handsfree system in my automobile, and I have a motorola HS850 as well.
No problems whatsoever.
Also, activesync works great over BT, so does internet sharing using the PAN.
File transfer takes a long time, but that is to be expected, since BT data transfer rates aren't as good as USB.
A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
I emailed HTC about this and their response was less than helpful.
They gave me a bunch of a2dp headset models that they have "tested"
and then told me that just because they were tested doesn't mean they are fully functional without issues.
I tried to tell them that it wasn't the headsets and it was the device itself, but they didn't seem to listen to what I had to say.

Never tried a2dp, but i don't have a hard time seeing this happening with this device. just the kind of thing to be expected. and i wanted to have stereo bluetooth to listen to music, etc. is it really that bad? guess i won't be trying that.
as far as build quality, it's good so far. except the loose volume switch on the side that rattles. kinda lame there. i've heard of the orbit2 jog dials falling off. there's another thread about that somewhere.

surgex0 said:
cosmetics i agree with that.
if you look in the accessories thread, there are multiple posts about the top screen being crooked and not glued onto the other screen, hearing snap backs when tapping on or around the corners.
Also I agree that the micro-sd hatch is very poorly designed, also along with the GPS plug.
Just a thought, that keeps recurring though my mind...why didn't they put more time and thought into these devices, when they cost upwards of $1000.
Unless of course, they made it this way, cosmetics and software, purposely...
But that's just me...there are some people who don't seem to have a problem with the way this device performs.
I think though, that I'm being over critical, because all of the previous HTC devices I have used, have never had problems that have even come close to this, and also, they didn't cost nearly as much. I just expected so much more from the TC.
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I'm one of the ones not having a problem with my TC. I agree the web using ie is slow but is also on every other wm device I've had. So I use opera mini.
Upwards of $1000?? Where the hell are you buying it anyway? That's a bit exagerated isn't it? I concur tho that phones are getting more and more expensive and the quality of build is not equal to cost. Actually my gf's t-mo go phone cost $40 and is seemingly indestructable.

surgex0 said:
A2DP however, sucks the big one.
I've tried 5 different a2dp devices\headsets...
It's all lag ridden, staticy at times, and sometiems it just plain stops and skips for 5-20 seconds.
It seems like whenever you use a2dp it lags the whole friggen device as well..
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You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all. I can even surf the web while using A2DP using Opera Mini or Mobile without issue. Keep in mind that I push multi-tasking on my devices.
I will say however, that using the S9's with the TC in NYC is crappy due to the weakness of the BT signal. I used to have the same issue with my Treo 750 using WM5 then when I upgraded to WM6 the issue seemed to lessen enough to the point where I didn't quite mind the "occasional" skip.

o2orbit said:
Is eny different between this two phone? I read that have many problems with orbit2, is the same with Touch cruise, same problems? Now i have o2 orbit and thinking to buy orbit2 or cruise, but i m little sceptical, becouse of problems..
Thanke you!
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Did they up the ram? Because 64mb is unaceptable. Causes freeze-ups and shut downs. Gotta have 128mb minimum.

JNGold said:
You seem to have a lot of complaints. However, I can tell you that I have experienced no such lags as you mention using A2DP. I use a Moto S9 when I work out at the gym and no problems at all.
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Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
And also, to comment about the price thing...the Sedna costs 1000 and the touch cruise is currently going for 700-800...I paid 850 for mine but i got it after one of the first shipments to the wholesaler. This is in the US though...I've heard these same exact phones cost like $50 in hong kong. Dunno if it's true but...search google checkout for the HTC Sedna, and see how much they cost.

$50 for a Cruise in HK??? no way. link?

surgex0 said:
Hm..I don't get it..
I tried those and they had the same problems as all the other ones I tried.
I tried them in my house, working out, airports, planes...no matter where i went they were the same. I dunno man :-\ I am having alot of bad luck lately...
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Yea, surgex0, you might wanna do some investigation, b/c A2DP works perfectly for me also. No skipping, great quality, and I can multitask w/o a real slowdown in performance. I've used it with my Samsung A2DP headphones, my Sony A2DP input/output adapter for my home stereo, and random A2DP demo products in stores. No issues here... Maybe try other headphones, or if you are on a custom rom try the original rom.

Inviting input about experiences with recently ordered HTC Fuzes.

Hello,
I will receive my HTC Fuze tomorrow. I have been reading as many posts I can, on this forum, the Internet in general, and have been watching videos on on Youtube, to be aware of the Fuze's strong as well as weak points. While ordering, I asked the sales rep. to put a note in my order to include an orange colored sim card, instead of the regular blue and white one. I read on this forum that the orange one is the newer one, which eliminates the problem of dropped calls when switching between various frequencies. I am also aware of the lag in GPS locks, less responsive screen, overall slowness of the TF3D interface and a few other common issues with the Fuze. I also know, that most, if not all issues, have been, or can be fixed.
I am wondering, if people who received their Fuzes recently, have a different experience - an experience of some of the common issues already taken care of. Does anyone feel the new Fuzes are less buggy? I would appreciate all your input.
Thanks,
Keith

my only problem has been gps lag, but after a couple tweaks, it's hardly noticeable now.
my sim card is white and blue and i haven't had any problems with dropped calls. i did have a couple dropped calls with one of the blackstone radios so i switched radios and haven't had any problems with the new radio and i get excellent battery life.

I got mine three days back
When started up I bypassed the AT&T bloatware and installed few better things
still getting use to it after my Nokia phone

I got it, unlocked it and flashed it seems perfect now
I kinda had to unlock it otherwise it wouldn't work for me here in Australia

keybord tend to die
i was happy with my fuze since i experimented keyboard issues.
keyboard lag turns off after a while, no lights, no respond.
have tried every fix attempt from this forum, but none worked for me
-trying disabling T9
-trying wifi power up/less
-up/down repeat rate
keyboard suddenly top working, not iven when im with wifi.

Thank you for your input. It seems so far that the input doesn't necessarily take one side, and is not decisive. I am waiting for the Fedex delivery of my Fuze and I hope it works well. I am planning on keeping the stock ROM, hoping it will work fine. "Hope" being the keyword, of course. Any more ideas to share regarding your new Fuzes?
Thanks,
Keith

Overall quality trend of recent HTC devices

Hi!
I am wondering if I am the only one who thinks that quality of HTC products is constantly decreasing...
Some years ago, I had a HTC Magician which was a great mobile phone. The metal case showed absolutely no signs of wear and tear after using it for two years and the software was at least what I call stable. There were some minor bugs and the fact that all data is lost on power failure (broken as designed), but it had more flexibility than any other phone in its time.
Then I got an HTC Elf. Its case is significantly worse compared to Magician. The software was unstable when using features like the camera, because HTC decided to make the built-in apps more memory-intensive than the hardware can take. It was usable, but needed a soft reset almost every day. Using the custom WM6 firmware from xda-devs fixed some of the problems (and brought some new ones ).
Now I am using an HTC Touch Diamond for half a year and I have never been so disappointed by a phone. The phone hangs during almost every call, the GSM/UMTS module stops working in standby mode for no particular reason and so on. Whenever I am waiting for a call, I have to check every once in a while whether the phone is still connected with my service provider. Sometimes I have the phone wake up from standby and see a mosaic like graphics error. Frequently, TouchFLO crashes and I am repeatedly prompted to file a bug report until I soft reset the phone.
I already tried a hard reset without installing my favourite apps afterwards, so I am using the phone out-of-the-box and it really sucks as I primarily need a reliable mobile phone.
Additionally, I used HTC Elf and Diamond with automotive Handsfree kits from Mercedes-Benz, JVC and Parrot and neither worked. After each call, I have to reconnect the phone manually, the bluetooth protocols for dialing a number from the carkit's controls does not work and so on. There are some Sony Ericsson and Nokia phones in my family which all work fine with these carkits.
I have an iPod Touch which works so smoothly and I rebooted it three times in a year (when I bought it and with each firmware update). No problems so far...
So I ordered a Sony Ericsson C905 now - bye bye HTC. Sorry.
Anyone else who can share this opinion?
Regards,
Schlot

But this is nothing related just to HTC
In general all products now are made with lower quality than before, they are made to last less so you go and buy another one!
Of course there are some exceptions...
I´ll stick to HTC and WM definetly!! as any other brand will present the same situation.
Not any other brand will have the great suport and knowledge that XDA gives to HTC/WM devices

I've had several HTC Devices, starting with the Magician, and the only time the build quality was not up to scratch was with my Hermes. As for the Hero I have now...it's probably the best built HTC device I've had.

I've had the Touch and Touch Diamond, and I've had none of the problems that you've been having. My Touch Diamond has a much better build quality than my previous phones, including the Touch. It sounds like the network you're using is rubbish, and what's your problem with soft resets? I've always soft reset pretty much every piece of technology I've had at least once per day...

orb3000 said:
But this is nothing related just to HTC
In general all products now are made with lower quality than before, they are made to last less so you go and buy another one!
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Hi again,
so now, I have a Sony Ericsson C905. Of course, it does not have that "smartphone feeling", so it is not that much customized like a WM device. My last three phones had enough setup options to keep me playing around for a week after a hard reset. The "dumbphone" is ready to use out-of-the-box, which is good and bad indeed. 10 minutes after unboxing, everything is configured and working. Then:
- BT connection to my Mac. Address Book sync, copy ringtones and files. Just works.
- Open the camera lid. Loads 2 seconds and is ready to shoot. No memory problems afterwards...
- BT connection to my carkit. Pairing, ready. HFP, A2DP, AVRCP, PBAP and SMS work fine.
So I do like smartphones as their functionality impress me, but when it comes to reliability, a normal phone does a better job FOR MY PURPOSE.
Materials and mechanical finish of C905 feels a bit better than HTC Touch and Diamond, comparable to HTC Magician.
Key response is faster than any WM phone I ever had.
BUT it does not have an offline wikipedia. So ideally, I need a smartphone and a dumbphone, so now I use the C905 and an iPod Touch.
It sounds like the network you're using is rubbish
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Vodafone DE, no problems with Nokia, Sony Ericsson etc.
and what's your problem with soft resets?
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I am a Mac user for a while now. My Mac is rebooted whenever there is a new OSX release. Same for my iPod Touch. Do you reset your car every day? Your TV? Satellite Receiver? Grandma's pacemaker?
It is OK for me to soft reset a PDA or something. But it is not ok to miss urgent calls because a phone does not work without a daily reset (my opinion).
I don't want to say that HTC devices are just bad (otherwise I would not have bought them for three generations). But they really have to work on reliability and usability.
They have to prioritize features to see which are important (phone, adress book, communications) and which are "nice to have" (customization, games, 3D GUI, ...).

I have had a Touch (Elf) and My Diamond II (6 months) and the build quality and problems you have had a have not had at all. I used to be a loyal Nokia and MOTO fan but now will never change from an HTC. But I may change to Android if we will never get a port for it on the TD2. But that is coming along now so yeah. We will see what comes out in 2010.

I'm finding I don't have to keep rebooting my HTC Hero. Android is well stable.