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hp 614c?

hello,
does anyone has the hp 614c?
can give some data of it? its a good phone? how does it works? the sound is loud?

HP 614c
I got mine through work and do not like it. The phone itself is nice. AGPS works very well and the device is nice and quick but the battery is not good. i have just the phone and bluetooth running and using it as a phone got about 6 hours if lucky. Sound is rubbish.
I would not purchase one on a personal note
Thanks
Brian

rothariger said:
hello,
does anyone has the hp 614c?
can give some data of it? its a good phone? how does it works? the sound is loud?
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Go check out here : http://www.modaco.com/content/HP-iPaq-iPaq-MoDaCo-com/261287/Questions-about-HP-IPAQ-610/
Cheers,
Dirk

Going by the different reviews I have read I will not go for it. I have the following reservations based on the reviews of course:
The external speaker volume is said to be very low.
The navigation wheel is a bit tricky. While pressing the number keys you inadvertently hit on it. I would have preferred a normal D-Pad and a scroll wheel.
Regards

I was very surprised by how large it was.
Tracy and Matt's blog has good pictures and video. Its larger then the TyTN II and almost as thick.
I still am waiting for the 914 personally.

seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed

guap said:
seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed
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Never had any issue on that
About the scrollwheel : when you need to dial a number or anything , you open the phone app by pressing the green button, and the scrollwheel is automaticly disabled....
I use it now for almost a month without any problem whatsoever. What I did remark is that most of the reviews are made by ppl that actualy don't USE the phone. If you check the link I provided higher in this thread, you'll learn much more about that machine, then by just reading that kind of reviews.
Cheers anyway,
Dirk

maevro said:
I was very surprised by how large it was.
Tracy and Matt's blog has good pictures and video. Its larger then the TyTN II and almost as thick.
I still am waiting for the 914 personally.
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The 914 is even larger. It's a good phone (so far) but I get the impression there's ppl are longing for something that is not workable anymore. A smaller phone will have a smaller screen, which renders its useability to zero. Unless you like to put your phone under a microscope to read the display.
Cheers,
Dirk

guap said:
seems to have some problem for now, expecially for data connection, rom instability and battery. It's a very young phone, I suggest you to wait a bit and see if this issue will be fixed
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I've had my phone for 2 weeks and I dont have any of the problems you mention... The only time I need to reboot my phone was when installing software that needed reboot.

I now have mine on order at Clove. Wish any of the users could answer my earlier queries. How is the external speaker volume? Can the touch scroll wheel be used for doing what a conventional D-Pad can do?
Thanks and Regards

srmz said:
I now have mine on order at Clove. Wish any of the users could answer my earlier queries. How is the external speaker volume? Can the touch scroll wheel be used for doing what a conventional D-Pad can do?
Thanks and Regards
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Hi,
Check here : http://www.modaco.com/content/HP-iPaq-iPaq-MoDaCo-com/261287/Questions-about-HP-IPAQ-610/
Cheers,
Dirk

I bought one online last month in the UK, just in time to get 50 pounds cashback. Bt excited to have it delivered, but all the remaining feeling two weeks later is disappointment.
1, the smart wheel is nice, but no "Enter" key be defined, its original separate enter key is way inconvenient to press. even for the left side "scroll" wheel, you will find it difficult to press "enter".
2, the keyboard is not well designed because you will find it's not easy to hit the key you want, ofter mistakes
3, battery life, shorter than 1590mAh battery should be, under normal usages, only last for one day or more
4, the speaker is very small and weak. perhaps you may change HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone\Vol, from the default 6666（HEX）to 8888 for example, it seems better on my own
5, system unstable, often freeze and have to soft reset, especially when you installed a couple of softwares.

Background noise when talking overwhelming...

Has anyone else noticed, or had anyone tell them, that the background noise is extremely loud and distracting, when you are talking to them on your Raph?
Apparently my microphone/receiver is picking up everything and people are hearing even the slightest sounds.
I called my wife from the car with the music very low, and she said it sounded like I was at a concert. A buddy called me and with no music on in the car, he kept asking if I was driving with the window down, or standing in the middle of traffic... And then when I went into a Panera Bread, with only a few people talking around me, he had to let me go because he couldn't hear me over all the extra noise.
I was not on speaker phone.
Is there anyway to dial down the microphone/receiver, like you can on a computer?
I did search through the forums, but was unable to find anything.
Thanks for the help.

There is in the settings area a item for hearing aid and non hearing aid mode. Try to set it either way and see if it helps?

I'm having the same problem too - is there a registry setting for this? HKLM\Software\HTC\Audiogain is no longer there...

Chiming in with this...have had several people tell me it sounds like I'm on speaker or like someone else said above, driving with the windows down.

I've had this issue as well. I can't remember if I had this issue before I started using cooked ROMs.
What ROM is everyone using?
I'm on PROven 1.08, but I've noticed this with earlier versions of PROven as well.
J.

Yep - just wanted to add that I'm having this problem too.
Almost every call I've made without a headset- someone has asked what was going on in the background.
Currently running Elite ROM
I mean, I know the mic is on the very bottom of the phone, but what's the deal?

Hello, guys.
i had this problem twice: just after i buy my Raphael and afer i take it to my service-center. There serious men just make hard reset and that's all!
the issue hide as i take my pda in hands.
but in several days it started again... i didn't know what to thing - cause i was very sad about this ****en problem.
nevertheless also after few days this problem hide away and never goe to my pda again.
I did'n do anything with my ROM (RUS 1.90.411.3, Radio:1.02.25.19)
...and it's very interesting.
if anybody has the answer to the question: "Why does it happen?" i'd be very glad to hear about this one.
sorry for my english)

hear myself
I have a simmilar backround noise problem, but for what ever reason the speaker kicks out what the mic picks up, so I end up hearing my self more than any one that calls unless it is dead silent in the room, then I can hear the caller as long as I am not talking.
any tips on how to stop hearing myself?

same here im using ROMeOS conFUZEd edition...

Just to add that the problem happens for me with the PROven 1.08 and LantisOS RC 1 ROMs.

I've modified AudioPara3.csv and turned the gain and tx volume way down. It seems to be ok for me, but I haven't done extensive testing yet. Please backup your copy before overwriting it. Copy to your \Windows directory using Total Commander. Let me know what you guys think.

Yeah a lot of people said they can hear everything when I talk to them. Both on my Raphael and my old Hermes. Its just the mics that HTC uses are really good. Maybe not good for phone usage but really good quality and can pick up all sounds.
I ended up getting a Bluetooth with Noise Reduction, everyone is much happier now.

Same here
I've been going crazy looking for a solution for this problem, I was in a restaurant the other day with very soft music and I got a call and the person on the other end said that it was SO loud she thought I was in a night club (I wish I was but I wasn't).
I'm gonna try the AudioPara3 and see what happens.
If anyone has found the perfect solution to this, please post it. Thanks.

Backgrounds too loud
Just installed and the problem seems to be corrected, will try a couple more days.....

I have this problem and have tried a couple of the posted audiopara files - no such luck with this issue?
Any progress on dialing in this microphone setting?
thanks!

radoave said:
I have this problem and have tried a couple of the posted audiopara files - no such luck with this issue?
Any progress on dialing in this microphone setting?
thanks!
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Silly question, but did you reboot your phone after you copied the file?

Yup. I occasionally get people telling me I sound like I'm in the middle of the sea with waves and stuff. When I end the call then redial, the problem is usually gone. Happens maybe once a week. I'm a fairly heavy user - the phone that is. Well not just the phone. Erm, can we not go there thank you?
Raph Elite Project RC3. When I've tried audiopara, I lose almost all volume from the speaker so I uninstalled and hard resetted.

how to make a htc fuze a better phone overall

The HTC fuze is a great pda but a phone overall it's not... I have always had win mobile devices from moto q9h , tytn 1 and tytn2 and now htc fuze but recently i have had a blackberry bold and it is a great phone but not so great pda how can i make the fuze a better phone here are the problems
-phone goes to sleep while on a call
dont wanna use no sleep raphael it doesnt work for me
-mic is to sensative, little noises people can hear, and cant hear me when i call
-phone volume is too low
-a lag when answering
-call quality is poor
what cabs or tweaks can i use to make it better

Flash a custom rom

After getting a BB Bold, i realized how bad and laggy the fuze was. I wouldnt even try going back.

Yeah but the bold didnt seem to have every thing that the Fuze had thats why I went back to the Fuze, the fuze has a better browser( the bold was not able to go onto alot of websites like banking websites and sites with security)or was I able to get skyfire and other things but the lack of having a good phone is making me think I should'nt have traded

Use Opera Mini, Bolt, or the new skyfire coming up.

PwnCakes193 said:
After getting a BB Bold, i realized how bad and laggy the fuze was. I wouldnt even try going back.
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That because the Bold ins't a touch screen nor does it's screen rotate

yokozuna82 said:
The HTC fuze is a great pda but a phone overall it's not... I have always had win mobile devices from moto q9h , tytn 1 and tytn2 and now htc fuze but recently i have had a blackberry bold and it is a great phone but not so great pda how can i make the fuze a better phone here are the problems
-phone goes to sleep while on a call
dont wanna use no sleep raphael it doesnt work for me
-mic is to sensative, little noises people can hear, and cant hear me when i call
-phone volume is too low
-a lag when answering
-call quality is poor
what cabs or tweaks can i use to make it better
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i have a Samsung Blackjack II(no Wifi, no touch screen)
it's a better 'integrated' phone, but lacking in features...
it doesn't have a touch screen, so it doesn't have to worry about accident screen presses, but it doesn't have a auto-screenoff sensor when it goes up my face
go with a 'dumbphone' if you don't want to waste time customizing, but you'll miss the features(WiFi, GPS, games...) available on a smart phone...
it took me over a week to customize my Fuze to my liking, close to the 'feeling' i have on my 'well-integrated' BJII..... there are still some quirks that i like with my BJ II(like the 'back' button actually acts like a back button... if you have a application on and press the home button to go to the home screen, the back button actually reactivates the previous screen(the application))... but i've learned to live without the quirk by using the beautiful touchscreen

Yeah it seems to me that all smartphone(non touch screen) have better call quality feature even voice command -it was excellent on both the Bold and the Moto q9h, the one on the fuze 8925 and 8525 suck most of the time it doesnt even reconize half the things i say. smartphone have great sound seems to be more stable and great call quailty

Energy ROM
You should try the EnergyROM.
I have used TouchPRO for six month with the stock HTC rom and I hated every moment. About two months ago I have discovered EnergyROM and my TP is completely changed as battery life, speed and options.
Give it a try.

yokozuna82 said:
The HTC fuze is a great pda but a phone overall it's not... I have always had win mobile devices from moto q9h , tytn 1 and tytn2 and now htc fuze but recently i have had a blackberry bold and it is a great phone but not so great pda how can i make the fuze a better phone here are the problems
-phone goes to sleep while on a call
dont wanna use no sleep raphael it doesnt work for me
-mic is to sensative, little noises people can hear, and cant hear me when i call
-phone volume is too low
-a lag when answering
-call quality is poor
what cabs or tweaks can i use to make it better
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I agree with your list of problem and wen't back to my Bold for the reasons you mentioned. From the threads I read in this forum, the mic/earpiece/call quality can't be fixed with a ROM. I did upgrade to the latest Fuze OS and installed the audiopara4 file.
Another annoyance, the notification popups. I had Windows Live installed and when it couldn't connect it would keep poping up notification screens constantly. The "swiping" action of the screen wasn't good either. The real deal breaker was the phone though.

cornelpopa said:
You should try the EnergyROM.
I have used TouchPRO for six month with the stock HTC rom and I hated every moment. About two months ago I have discovered EnergyROM and my TP is completely changed as battery life, speed and options.
Give it a try.
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Cornelpopa is right.
EnergyROM is DEFINITELY the way to go, you will fall in love with your phone all over again, i can guarantee it

stixnstownes said:
Cornelpopa is right.
EnergyROM is DEFINITELY the way to go, you will fall in love with your phone all over again, i can guarantee it
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Are you saying it fixes the problems with the phone? Low earpiece volume, poor call quality?

i tried the new rom from energy wm6.5 but the phone and the pda part was unstable i would slide to answer a call and the phone would still ring and i would always get missed calls.... post a link to the one you used and ill let you know what i think....i really dont want to get the phone, i love the web browsing on the fuze its awesome but i need a good phone to, oh and i have a jawbone 2 headset are there certin settings for maximum proformance

Accel. Auto-Unlock for Dialer

Hello,
Since it seems like no one has ever asked this question before I've decided to post about it.
On the Droid when you dial a phone number and put the phone up to your ear it locks the phone's screen. Then if you are dealing with a PBX or menu system on the phone that requires you to press a certain option and you move the phone away from your ear to tap the dialer, the screen automatically auto-unlocks. This is, by far, the best feature I have seen in a phone to-date.
Where do I get a dialer that supports that feature (it obviously uses the accelerometer)? Somehow I doubt you can just rip the APK out of the Droid image and have it work on a G1. Or does that feature just not work on the G1 for some reason?
Any replies are appreciated.
--Nickhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6419439#post6419439

nbetcher said:
Hello,
Since it seems like no one has ever asked this question before I've decided to post about it.
On the Droid when you dial a phone number and put the phone up to your ear it locks the phone's screen. Then if you are dealing with a PBX or menu system on the phone that requires you to press a certain option and you move the phone away from your ear to tap the dialer, the screen automatically auto-unlocks. This is, by far, the best feature I have seen in a phone to-date.
Where do I get a dialer that supports that feature (it obviously uses the accelerometer)? Somehow I doubt you can just rip the APK out of the Droid image and have it work on a G1. Or does that feature just not work on the G1 for some reason?
Any replies are appreciated.
--Nick
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The Droid uses a proximity sensor to tell when it goes up to your ear:
pocketnow.com said:
The Motorola Droid also has a proximity sensor so that the screen shuts off when you hold the phone close to your face. This helps to conserve battery life while at the same time prevent accidental screen input if your cheeks press upon the screen.
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Not sure how you would do the same thing with the Accel.

That feature actually uses the proximity sensor, which the G1 unfortunately lacks.

jshealton said:
The Droid uses a proximity sensor to tell when it goes up to your ear:
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Oh. That makes sense.
jshealton said:
Not sure how you would do the same thing with the Accel.
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Not sure why it would be so hard. Accel can tell how it's positioned and the position next to your ear is completely different from that of holding your phone in front of you. It would just require some evaluation and data recording of degrees and ranges.

nbetcher said:
Oh. That makes sense.
Not sure why it would be so hard. Accel can tell how it's positioned and the position next to your ear is completely different from that of holding your phone in front of you. It would just require some evaluation and data recording of degrees and ranges.
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Not sure about that. If I remember correctly the accell only sees if the phone is in landscape or portrait orientation, and when you are talking on the phone it is almost straight up and down. Not sideways. Will venture to find an answer.
Edit: You almost have to have the phone on its side for the accel to see that you have moved your phone. Don't know about you but when I talk on the phone it is almost up and down.

jshealton said:
Not sure about that. If I remember correctly the accellerometor only sees if the phone is in landscape or portrait orientation, and when you are talking on the phone it is almost straight up and down. Not sideways. Will venture to find an answer.
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That certainly can't be since many games, namely Armageddon Squadron (flying game) use the X and Y axis on the phone (roll vs pitch). Also think of rolling objects in games that you have to "steer."

nbetcher said:
That certainly can't be since many games, namely Armageddon Squadron (flying game) use the X and Y axis on the phone (roll vs pitch). Also think of rolling objects in games that you have to "steer."
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That may be true. I don't have any games on my phone that use the accel. I can only go by logcat durring screen orientation. I am sure you can now, the only problem is at what amout of tilt does the screen lock. And you would have to tie it in to when there is a call connected. Would hate for my sreen to auto lock when I am laying in bed playing with my phone.

jshealton said:
And you would have to tie it in to when there is a call connected. Would hate for my sreen to auto lock when I am laying in bed playing with my phone.
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Well, of course it's connected to the dialer - that's its only purpose. If the dialer doesn't have foreground then it won't auto-lock.
If developing for Android wasn't such a pain in the ass (compared to C++) and I knew more Java classes/methods then I'd probably just implement this myself. I'll probably get the myTouch Slide soon enough though.

We wouldn't be able to so much measure the exact position to do this but a good shake-like-hell-to-unlock-dialpad event might be possible... If I (or someone) can find some code for a dialer, I'd be happy to take a stab at making it "native..." I know just enough Java/Android to cause some trouble, so it could only be good ;-) If not the dialer, then an app could be started as a service, with an intent to snag the call, and listen for a good jostling. I wonder what this would do to the battery/performance and how often I would have to make it poll the sensor? Hmm....
I'll see if I can poke around and find ANYTHING. Haven't googlified anything yet... I do need something constructive to add to my workload.
And yes, the accelerometer measures force applied to the X, Y and Z axis. you can technically program it to sense when you've dropped (or are dropping) the phone.

boredpcguy said:
We wouldn't be able to so much measure the exact position to do this but a good shake-like-hell-to-unlock-dialpad event might be possible... If I (or someone) can find some code for a dialer, I'd be happy to take a stab at making it "native..." I know just enough Java/Android to cause some trouble, so it could only be good ;-) If not the dialer, then an app could be started as a service, with an intent to snag the call, and listen for a good jostling. I wonder what this would do to the battery/performance and how often I would have to make it poll the sensor? Hmm....
I'll see if I can poke around and find ANYTHING. Haven't googlified anything yet... I do need something constructive to add to my workload.
And yes, the accelerometer measures force applied to the X, Y and Z axis. you can technically program it to sense when you've dropped (or are dropping) the phone.
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try looking here.
http://github.com/cyanogen/android_packages_apps_Phone
edit: It should be possible, since it looks like a feature to "turn over to silence" has been implemented.

boredpcguy said:
We wouldn't be able to so much measure the exact position to do this but a good shake-like-hell-to-unlock-dialpad event might be possible...
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I'm not sure if shaking my phone is really much better than tapping the screen twice - both require similar times for completion.
boredpcguy said:
If I (or someone) can find some code for a dialer, I'd be happy to take a stab at making it "native..."
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Here's a tar.gz of the source-code that was released with the Droid https://android.git.kernel.org/?p=p...9af2e10e23c7c21f22abec5f3d7fa05d6406a2;sf=tgz

Not sure if it's still out and compatible with the newest builds, but the app Shake Awake did this quite some time ago.

Hairybroness said:
Not sure if it's still out and compatible with the newest builds, but the app Shake Awake did this quite some time ago.
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I used to use this on android 1.1. iirc it stopped working on cupcake, and I haven't checked on it since then.

I don't think this would work, because what if you're laying down with the phone? I'm pretty sure it would mess up with the Accel. I'm not too much into this, but when playing a game like teeter for example, the side of your phone has to be horizontal with..the horizon (correct me if I'm wrong)

Dialer wake-up w/o real sensor
Shake Awake never worked too well for me.
I have always wondered in the back of my non-programmer brain if one who was really good could implement a sonar/feedback type code whereby when the phone was close to an ear, the amount of feedback from the earpiece to the mouthpiece was quite low, but drawn away from the ear increased just enough for the phone to pass through to the code through an intent (is there anything like a feedback intent? I bet Meltus would know!), which would issue the commands to unlock and wake-up.
More ideally would be a program which got the earpiece to put out a search tone up around 20 kHz, which would be analyzed by the mouthpiece. Sound present = user has moved the phone away from the ear, wake up and unlock to touchpad, sound muffled or totally gone = user is still using the earpiece, don't unlock.
BTW, all 2.1 eclair ROMs I've used in the past 3 months have a setting for a substantial improvement to screen awake times during calls.

Am I the only one having serious proximity sensor problems (hang ups)

this has gotten to be a real serious problem for me - hanging up with my face while on a call. i am surprised this isn't talked about more here. any help would be appreciated! is it possible for the dev's to not only remove the end call button but the mute as well?

so far you are the only one that has ever reported anything like that,ya know it could be a hardware defekt
sent via my bamfed out tbolt

Nope I'm in the same boat as im sure are many others. I have only ever had it actually impact me I think twice on phone calls out of almost a hundred or so that I have had since I purchased the phone. All the others times though it was extremely annoying to keep hearing the click sounds of the screen turning on and off on and off on and off etc.
I keep hoping for a software update that addresses the sensitivity of the sensor, but still no
I also wonder how much the battery is affected by the screen turning on and off repeatedly while in a phone conversation...

I get the same. More on my right ear than my left, but it will often take a digit that I just typed for an automated system and try to dial it, resulting in an alarm tone in my ear during the conversation.

sorry but i have 3 different bolts,the 1st one was rooted stock had that problem but it also went into the brick loop so it got replaced,rooted that one but never had the prob again,this one has the bamf 2 prev 3 on it and no probs that is why i suggested harware cause my first one had major hardware issues
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i get it too. but i dont call so much. so i dont really care lol

I too had this problem, and did some quick searching on Google. Stumbled upon someone who said to spray it with canned air to clean it out. To my surprise, it worked. There is just enough room between the screen and the body of the phone for dust/crap to get in and it hinders both the light and proximity sensors.

You might be holding the phone in a weird position?
THUNDERBOLT

Damn, you lean something new every day, this thing makes phone calls too!

I've had the issue too recently. But it only started when I returned the last phone to stock. Before that, I had a small issue with it, but it didn't happen often.

pnd4pnd said:
this has gotten to be a real serious problem for me - hanging up with my face while on a call. i am surprised this isn't talked about more here. any help would be appreciated! is it possible for the dev's to not only remove the end call button but the mute as well?
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I have the screen turn on during calls, but I've never had a face hang up. Honestly I think the screen turns on for me, but can't be interacted with.
Scratch that just did a test. I guess I'm lucky. Then again I don't hold the phone flat to my face. So I guess I would never hit it...

i have had hangups, the mute button pressed, and a 3 way call started. i just tried blowing the screen out with some compressed air as someone suggested. it seems better - will give an update after some testing.

No issues with hang ups for me. Had that problem all the time coming from the X.
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I have the same problem and have had it with every Rom I've run and stock. I'm surprised we don't have a way to adjust the proximity sensor yet, that's something I really miss about my Droid X.

After answering a call and putting the tb to my ear, my screen stays on.
Sometimes my ear dials numbers, sometimes the screen stays illuminated but doesn't respond to any touch! I have to toggle the screen on/off with the power button to get the touch response working again.

I have never had an issue. Been on mostly whatever the latest bamf release since rooting.

It happens to me whenever I forget the bluetooth especially after working out or anytime facial area is warmer then normal. I have a screen protector and clean the screen frequently.

I am having the same issue, so I called Verizon yesterday and they are sending me a new phone. I hope it works, because it makes talking on the bolt almost impossible.
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this is the first I am hearing of this. No problems for me.

Have the same problem...its really annoying man....will not get a refurbished unit until they fix the reboots