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Hi there,
My currently installed Rom was RUU-Prophet-G4-AKU2.2-2.20-2.47.21-Jester-r1.exe. (thank you jester for you good job)
Nevertheless, this ROM is in English and I wanted to downgrade to a French One before the selling of my device.
I have tried to install the downgrade kit detailed in this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267344
The first step went OK but while trying to make the secnd step, my qtek is blocked at the boot splash screen showing the Jesterz picture and red information about the SPL and so on on the upper left corner... without starting... The USB connexion is not detected so I can't do anything... While trying to install any ROM, the USB connection is not detected ang I get an error message...
Did I kill my phone ?
Please help ! Tell me that it's not dead....
Don't worry, its nowhere close to being dead. If you have superCid, then use the SD card image to restore in bootloader mode. However, if the Cid is locked, then you would need a utility that can unlock Cid without Activesync mode (coz in your case, you would not be able to get an Activesync connection). imei-check.co.uk has a utility ($38 i guess) that unlocks Cid in bootloader.--- else show it to a professional. (in my country, I would have to shell out around $20 to get such a problem fixed at a mobile repair shop)
illanz said:
... The USB connexion is not detected so I can't do anything... While trying to install any ROM, the USB connection is not detected ang I get an error message...
Did I kill my phone ?
Please help ! Tell me that it's not dead....
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Just take out the battery for about 10 minutes and re-insert. If it does not re-start, do a soft resert with the stylus and hopefully you should be fine
Hy,please help!
after downgrade, it doesnt work anymore.... i mean... i cant start the mobile!
after the downgrade i disable the USB data cable and now the mobile is dead... it doesnt starts from the ON/OFF Button and even if i connect the USB cable it makes nothing! No Led on... nothing! absolutly DEAD!!!
I have tried to put off the battery all night long with no result.. but I have achieved to reach the bootloader mode by pressing the camera button while soft reseting and keeping the camera button pushed...
OMG, I have been so scared ! ! !
Try this in order to reach the bootloader:
Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camara + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and KEEP PRESSING camara button till appear the Boot Loader.)
it doesnt work
I seem to have a simular problem. this is my post in another topic. It seems to fit better here.
This is what I tired so far:....
I used the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_S hip-NoVendorID and it often hangs and was slow with Push Email over GPRS.
I tried to find a way to downgrade but hadn't had time sofar. When I logged on XDA Developers Site I saw there was a new Image.
So I thought Great I dont need to find how to downgrade.
I don't know what G4 and G3 is so as everybody let's try the higest best one.
I uploaded the RUU-Prophet-G4-AKU3.3-Jester-b1
Wrong...
Now as previously stated I get to the multicolor screen with IPL 2.09 and the SPL 2.20..0001 on the screen and that's it.
I can get to the bootloader and load the same image again and get the same result.
I can load another image on and it loads to 80 Percent and says error [326] Invalid Command This NBF cannot be used with your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file.
If I try an older Version it tells me upgrad only
And when I try to upload the G3 version it tells me error[300] invalid upgrade tool. This upgrade utility canot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Upgrade utility.
Trying to use the nf.nbf or the G3 with the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID of the G4 doesn't work either.
If I would like to do the downgrade tool I need a Active Sync connection which I don't have.
I have no more thoughts. Please Help.
If you would have just read the forums better you would have known if your device is a G3 or a G4. (read this!).
Now it appears you have tried both for an update. Which may possibly have bricked your phone.
But... first things first. Can you get into the bootloader? (read wiki HERE on how to do that).
If you can still get into the bootloader then there is still a possibility for updating.
Try upgrading with the latest Qtek rom (note: this is an official rom, this one works for both G3 and G4! And since it's the latest you should be able to upgrade to this one).
Instructions quoted from another post of me:
You could try the 2.20 qtek rom which seems to be working well for quite some people (found here).
Although you have to make sure you read that thread good and use the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe (found here ) to upgrade.
Update instructions:
1: With the qtek 2.20 rom you need to extract the zip and the exe file in the zip with WinRAR.
2: Then there is one folder called 'OutputFile' and a folder called 'RUU_TOOLS'.
Inside the RUU_TOOLS there is prophet and in that one WWE, when you go through them and in the WWE folder you see a bunch of files (readme.doc, enterbootloader.exe etc etc).
You need to copy ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe to the WWE folder with all the files. And you also need to copy the 'nk.nbf' file to the WWE folder (from the 'OutputFile' folder).
3: And then you need to put your phone in bootloader mode and run ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe to upgrade, which should work nicely then.
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This should give you a good enough idea of what to do. This should work (new rom combined with no NoID updater).
However, if it's impossible to get yourself into the bootloader your options of upgrading your device are getting smaller.
Downgrading of a complete rom is only possible on a CID unlocked G3 (when it's CID unlocked you would know! because you would have done that yourself) and not on a G4 device.
Flasing a G3 device with a G4 rom or G4 device with a G3 rom might possibly turn your phone into a brick. This can easily be avoided by reading the forums properly and know what you are doing.
If anything (even if it's a small thing) is not completely clear to you about upgrading/downgrading your device I'd recommend not doing so.
edit: oh yeah... if you have a G4 device (which you should know by now) you cannot downgrade from this rom (well, only via a payed online service). And when you have a G3 device you could try and CID unlock it (read wiki + forums) before you want to downgrade, or don't downgrade at all.
But whatever you do, don't try to downgrade it without doing any of those things because you'll get into trouble. (to put it down bluntly)
illanz said:
I have tried to put off the battery all night long with no result.. but I have achieved to reach the bootloader mode by pressing the camera button while soft reseting and keeping the camera button pushed...
OMG, I have been so scared ! ! !
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If you have reached the bootloader screen, just run my installer (or any official ROM) to get your phone working again.
My Prophet Died
I need help, to restore my Prophet, i upgrade wrong rom, i need will try the SD Backup, where can i see this process ?
Sorry my Inglish is too bad.
I've merged a couple of threads under this one, as they are all about the same problem (mostly)
Opening a new thread for the same problem isnt very useful
Hi RaptorRVL
Thank you very much for your patience in resuming all this for me.
I do try to read the forum but it isn't like a manual where you find the procedure stepby step. Like the G3 and G4 version I have newer come across until now. Sorry.
I tried the image you metioned and I have the result that at 80% it tells me error [326] Invalid Command This NBF cannot be used with your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file
Any more thoughts?
As you seem to be an expert Can you let me know more about goldcard solution.
Cheers
Mick
From a readme I once found inside an update:
* ERROR [320~328] : INVALID COMMAND
These errors seldom occur. However, if one of these errors occur, it could not be recovered and the device had to be sent back to the customer service center. In this case, you have to flash a new ROM code.
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Doesn't sound too good really. Maybe someone else here on the forums know what to do with this error :/
You did use the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe and not the normal updater right? Can remember someone getting a similar error when using the wrong updater, but I'm not sure about that though...
edit: try doing a search on the prophet forums for "INVALID COMMAND" maybe there is a helpful post in there somewhere...
THANKS!! I was worried b/c i had the same problem today. I've been looking for so many threads abt this problem. Thanks for ur help guys!
same problem
so i have the same problem. I want to downgrade and it break at 95% invalid file. But now XDA is still alive. I can`t go into the bootloader but i tried this file: RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID.exe
and now my Prophet is still running again. Hope i can help you. Good luck.
peter paul
P.S. sorry for my english, but its good to learn it again
Hi Guys,
Glad to see WM6 on the Tornado...
Pulled my Cingular 2125 out of the bin and trying to get it upto WM6.
The problem I'm having is that I need to SuperCID it but SPVServices isn't working.
I get the "ALL OK" RAPI init was Successful when I run SPVServices.
Then I click the "CID Tool (Alpha) Link" but it only displays a blank screen.
I have successfully App-Unlocked and installed the Certs.cab
Any help would be appreciated.
What OS no ur PC are you using? FYI, it must be done on XP
OS & IE Versions...
Sorry, forgot to mention...
Windows XP, IE 7. Thought there might be an issue with IE7 so I uninstalled it and tried again with IE 6. Same results.
Try it on other computer ?
Gonna try on my work PC tomorrow (or actually later today).
Just wondered if others had experienced this..
Odd, never heard of a blank screen issue, most errors are saying that it can't write the to the correct memory area or it just wont run at all under vista..
Phil
[EDIT: Good to see you about again kyphur ]
try to supercid with lokiwiz (wizard sim unlock and supercid tool). it works on tornados too
before this make sure that the phone is fully app-unlocked.
ps: skip the enablerapi.cab step
Ah yes, LokWiz my old friend... Wizard was my second HTC Device (Blue Angel being my first).
I used SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe, is there a sure-fire way to confirm that my Tornado is App-Unlocked?
Success!!
Go figure, worked right off the bat on my work PC, that's just not fair!
Well, thanks you guys have really got your stuff together here.
We'll see how my 12 year old daughter likes WM6 SmartPhone Edition.
Hello everybody. I'm completely noob, so please have a little patience with me. I have a Treo 750 in italian, and my final goal is to flash it to wm6-english. But for start, i don't know what Treo i have. I read about Cingular, At&t, etc...
mine sais TREO750-1.16-H3I, h-ware version A, firmware version 1.27.0b.00.
So whom am i talking to every day? Is there a special version of wm6 for my phone?
I thought i'l start from here. Any help would be appreciated...
Ok... noone? At least tell me how I can figure if my phone is unlocked or unbrenched...
Or could someone point me to a tutorial-thread of flashing the phone... from the beginning to the end.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah_WM6
Maybe you'll find something around here for the beginning, ...
Stupi ... it doesn't matter which Treo you have when it comes to flashing ROMs.
Just do the HardSPL first. That way you can pick the English language ROM of your choice to flash and it will work. You also get the benefit of unlocking the phone so it can be used on any GSM network.
Ideally, you'd be best to pick an English ROM provided by the same company that provides your cellular service, but it is not required. If you pick one from another cell company (or a hacked one) then you might have to enter your network settings manually, but that's the only difficult part.
Plenty of resources in this forum. Do some searching and you'll find everything you need. Good luck!
One question, thought... i could'n find the answer on the forum. I downloaded the unlocher, but it sais it only works with spl 1.11, at least... Mine is 0.22.
I tried then to update with RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe, but in the "current information about your pda phone" it didn' recognize my pda. I got affraid of bricking it.
So, it seems to me my first problem is updating the spl from 0.22 to 1.11. But I cannot find the software to do this..
Come on men, this has to be simple. I need some help here, please. I'm stuck up with wm5 over a week now...
so, the first thimg I must do, a hard-spl, that's what I understood. This can be done with ceetah_unlocker.
Ok, i launch the application, and it sais it can't start only with 1.11 spl. Mine is 0.22.0000
So the first thing i have to do is update this 0.22 spl to 1.11. Am I right?
But how?
Find one of the WM6.0 desktop updaters and try installing that. They don't require a HardSPL first.
Use one of the following:
AT&T English: Treo750_2_25_ATT_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Rest of World English: Treo750_2_23_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Three Australia: Treo750_2_19_H3E_DesktopUpdater.zip
Vodaphone UK English: Treo750_2_18_VFU_DesktopUpdater.zip
I don't have any links as they aren't hosted by Palm anymore. You should be able to find them by looking around the XDA Forum, or by searching the net and/or torrent sites for the filenames above.
thanks a lot, man, but I lost my pathience and i run the cheetah_unlocker... and I didn't brick it. So, now I'm ready for the next step...
please, if anyone pm me with a win 6...
ok, my spl is ok (1.4), i put the CHEEIMG.nbh on my sd card, and I run the step 1 of cheetah unlocker. And nothing happens.. still boots with wm5. I even did a hard reset.
Man, i'm goig crazy... what am i missing?
Please, someone could upload again one of those 4 files? I could find neither of them with goolge.
So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?
stupi said:
So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511763
I must be missing something. I made those steps, all went ok. But how the heck do i change the windows version? That's my goal, not to flash the spl.
I got a win 6 image (i hope, at least), copied the CHEEIMG.nbh file on the card (which is fat 32), and i repeated step one from cheetah-unlocker. As I hoped that after flashing the new windows would automatically install. But nothing happened, the old win was up and running.
Come on man, I'm not such a bad person after all to deserve this... I may have killed a few birds or cats in my childhood, but this is too much... you're killing me.. I'm stuck in this spagetti windows, and I can't upgrade to a normal english windows... what the heck am i missing?
well, if you haven't gotten it sorted by now, hope this helps: once you've hard spl'd, put the new image that you want to flash in the root on your card [<2gb, fat32 formatted] and then hold media and push reset. your phone will cycle into the bootloader [rgb screen], detect the image and ask if you want to flash.
Ok, I'm kind of at my wits end. I've already bricked a Sprint Snap, and I'm trying to get HARD to display on my tri-color instead of 0000 before I try ookba's rom again.
But I can't. I've done everything correct. SDA application unlocker - auto.bat from the JockyW thread, JumpSPL and boot Rom Update Utility. Every time it goes to a 100%, but once I reboot and then hold volume down I still get
CEDA200
SPL-0.34.0000
MicroP-Willow#C (LED) v58B.
No luck. I've tried hard resetting my phone with brand new factory settings (my old 6.1 was heavily modded). I've tried XP and Vista. No luck. When I confirm jumpSPL my screen goes black. Then I run RomUpdateUtility while the screen is black. Is that right? Please advise me, I'd love to have 6.5 on my snap.
Please use the correct version of Hard SPL, suitable for your phone!(S 511). Above all use Jump SPL (depending on your SPL version) and follow the prompts in the DOS window. Just press space bar. On your phone, screen will turn black this is NORMAL!Then free to interact in any way with the phone and without disconnecting the phone from the PC will need to run Hard SPL.Again attention, according to your platform (S511).After all this if all is well you should install the favorite ROM .
Good Luck!!!
i have followed these steps
I have started the romupdateutility with the black screen and it completes to a 100 percent. however my tricolor splash screen doesn't change.
Strange ...Something is wrong there.Try on another PC, make sure Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Center is working properly.But most importantly try another JumpSPL and HardSPL, those you have now may have errors or can be corrupt file.Had happened to me with my old Diamond.
what is supposed to happen?
The .0000 should say .HARD if the flash was successful right? If a phone is HARDSPL then it won't change after a hard reset right? I really can't get this to work... is there a newer jumpspl I should try? Everytime RomUpdateUtility completes with the black screen my phone reboots and nothing has changed
DAMN
I just bricked my second snap by trying a different version of JumpSPL, really really upsetting. I can't believe I did that again, all I wanted was my device to be HardSPL and now its a paperweight. UGHHHH no phone certainly isn't better than stock 6.1... I'm probably done trying to 6.5 this damn thing. I'm going to replace it and never mess with it again. Thank you for trying to help.
Sorry man, really sorry. And I agree with you, 6.5 is nothing better than 6.1 and I think so.I have 6.5 and do not see an obvious improvement or an addition to performance.Perhaps a higher consumption of resources.I think it depends on preference.In your case maybe not everything is lost.Read this very very very carefully: "Flashing and Unbricking your Maple" by Ookba.Even if they refer to Maple, can help you.Good luck!
yay!
After getting a new s511, I attempted this for the third time
Well, It worked like magic. .Hard is now visible on my tri-color screen. SO!
Now I can flash the ROM? Do I just turn my phone on to its homescreen and plug it in to run RomUpdateUtility? Any other precautions I should take?
@Johny, thanks so much man for all of your help i appreciate it.
Yes, theoretically should work without problems now.Turn on the phone then start running RomUpdateUtility. If Hard is visible, you are insured in case of failure to update the ROM. In my case...I did not succeed the first time this.Even if I did HardSPL, I could not install 6.5, an error occurs...All they have resolved JumpSPL.If you have problems post here. Good luck!
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Yes, theoretically should work without problems now.Turn on the phone then start running RomUpdateUtility. If Hard is visible, you are insured in case of failure to update the ROM. In my case...I did not succeed the first time this.Even if I did HardSPL, I could not install 6.5, an error occurs...All they have resolved JumpSPL.If you have problems post here. Good luck!
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salut Johnny . putem vorbi de telefon?
drc38 said:
salut Johnny . putem vorbi de telefon?
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Please provide an english translation, since this is a english forum
Device Help
I have a HTC Snap 511 from a Wireless Carrier in Puerto Rico it works just as fine as Sprint's. Actually its the same phone under another carrier. I tried Updating the rom i got lucky it boots 6.5 but i downloaded the wrong rom because its for a GSM phone not CDMA now its asking me for SIM and i can't updated to the one it goes ( that i downloaded sometime later )... Tri-Color Says:
CEDA200
SPL-0.39.0000
MicroP-Willow#C (LED) v 58B
i tried putting the s511 Sprint ROM but says at upgrade communication error.
I think its because im downgrading roms?
CEDA is 2.00.XXXX
WILL is 1.50.XXX
Any comments are aprreciated.
PS-
SIM Failure
The SIM card is missing or is not valid.You can still make emergency calls if your service providers supports it.
--##_- 240x320 Fun! -_##--
Which Un RAR arhivator complete work on this device (Snap S511) ???
I`m test all and not working nothing. WM 6.5 and WM 6.1
Not description for Icons in the SYSTEM(WM 6.5) menu... Baaaaad.
Hi guys, i have the palm treo 750 with the wm 6.5 and o need to go back to the original wm 5.0. I've tried everything but no results. i put the rom in my sd card in did the hard-reset, but didn't loading at all, i tried many differents roms, but none of them worked. It shows that tri colour screen with these informations: Palm Tr ( IPL- 0.20)
Palm tr (SPL- 0.24.0000
Another thing my treo doesn't connect with pc, so i have to to do everything with sd card.
I'm using windows 7 64bits.
Please help me i need to downgrade
Thanks
You can't flash a ROM from an SD card without doing a successful HardSPL first. By virtue of your post (SPL- 0.24.0000) you haven't done it correctly yet.
I don't know if there is a way to HardSPL the phone from an SD card. Search this forum to see if anyone has reported doing it.
PS ... don't go back to WM5. There are many official and stable versions of WM6.0 which is much better than WM5.
Thx, but i still not having any result, if anybody else can help, pls, i'm trying everything.
Well, obviously you aren't trying everything ... like doing simple research.
A quick Google search turned up that Palm doesn't have (or plan to put out) a 64bit USB driver for the Treo 750. That would explain why you can't connect it to your PC.
This thread on the subject is pretty old, but then again, so is the phone ...
http://forums.palm.com/palm/board/crawl_message?board.id=activesync&message.id=2978
So, you might want to find a PC with a 32bit OS on it and try getting your Treo to sync to it instead. If that works, then installing a factory ROM will be fairly easy. Keep in mind, you might have to edit the payload.xml file because the installer will see a more recent version of the ROM already on your phone (assuming you really have WM6.5 on it now).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345531
There are plenty of official WM6.0 ROMs available. That would be your best option. You can find many of them here:
http://rapidshare.com/users/PJNMEM/?byfilename=1&password=&subpassword=
Problem solved, just install a program that made my mobile come back to the wm 5.0.
Thanks all
You might want to share your solution with the board in case others have the same issue and need help.