I was curious as to how many folks are planning on running out to buy the Touch Pro2 when their carrier releases it? I am pondering that question myself as the specs on it do not blow away the FUZE with the exception of the screen and speaker phone.
I am running RRE 6.5 v8.3 and love it but I am really interested in WM7. Having read about the upcoming release I am worried the TP2 will not be powered up enough to run WM7. It sounds like WM7 will require a snapdragon processor to run the UI.
What are your thoughts?
no, i had only just got the TP when the TP2 was announced, dont think my next phone will be HTC
i will most definately get it as soon as i can . i personnaly don't like the d-pad if there would be more screen space there . my fuze is only 6 months old and its rickety as a 80 year old man :[[[ it wobbles .
the speakerphone is a big thing for me i use it alot and don't want a bluetooth earpice so its really the only way to go . if they are gonna make wm 7 its going to run on the tp2 weather or not the specs say so lol . what did you read that lead you to that assertation?
I will be getting one as soon as I can. For me there is one main reason - screen size.
I LOVE the fact the HTC community and how they create roms and hacks... but the phone itself drives me crazy.
The main things that suck with the Touch Pro is the volume (not that loud), the design like said earlier... it creaks, and the touchpad and button layout (not the keyboard).
My next phone will need either Capacitive touchscreen with onscreen keyboard or a physical QWERTY (non sliding), a JOG WHEEL, Windows Mobile 6.5 or better, a decent Dpad. Also a standard screen size. Those 400x400 or funky screen res make gaming complicated. Standard VGA works for me.
The Samsung Jack looks awesome if they would just put Windows Mobile on it instead of the smartphone version. I have lots of apps that require a touchscreen. I liked the Epix but the lack of a jog wheel and a dpad made it useless. If it had WM6.5 for the Epix, it wouldn't be so bad since its more finger friendly.
player911 said:
I LOVE the fact the HTC community and how they create roms and hacks... but the phone itself drives me crazy.
The main things that suck with the Touch Pro is the volume (not that loud), the design like said earlier... it creaks, and the touchpad and button layout (not the keyboard).
My next phone will need either Capacitive touchscreen with onscreen keyboard or a physical QWERTY (non sliding), a JOG WHEEL, Windows Mobile 6.5 or better, a decent Dpad. Also a standard screen size. Those 400x400 or funky screen res make gaming complicated. Standard VGA works for me.
The Samsung Jack looks awesome if they would just put Windows Mobile on it instead of the smartphone version. I have lots of apps that require a touchscreen. I liked the Epix but the lack of a jog wheel and a dpad made it useless. If it had WM6.5 for the Epix, it wouldn't be so bad since its more finger friendly.
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well, i recently upgraded from the Samsung Blackjack II to the Touch Pro (almost a month with the new phone)
things i missed from the BJ II
- BJ II's speakers were stereo, and were loud and good... TP's one were soft
- Simpleness of WM 6.1 Smartphone... not as much customization, but the default settings worked out better IMO (TP's settings, i had to spend over a week to make something close to what i want, but BJII only took a day and i liked those settings)
- (above mentioned) LED notification... believe there were 7 different colors that i can use(LEDALerts) to notify me of anything(missed calls)... TP only has that flashing circle... NOT ENOUGH, you hear me HTC?
what i want from future HTC WM Phones
- 3.5mm jack (HTC said yes already, so good on this one)
- capacitive screen(TP1 has capacitive area... change this? WM7 might prove to be the right time to do this?)
- blinking LED notification
- hardware keylock... my Dell x51v has a hardware lock that disables all inputs... useful and worth it to add it in
- basic powerful speakers...stereo if possible
that saying, i won't buy the TP2, unless i can find some soul on CL/ebay/forums to trade with a TP2 for a TP1+$100(?)
paperWastage said:
what i want from future HTC WM Phones
- 3.5mm jack (HTC said yes already, so good on this one)
- capacitive screen(TP1 has capacitive area... change this? WM7 might prove to be the right time to do this?)
- blinking LED notification
- hardware keylock... my Dell x51v has a hardware lock that disables all inputs... useful and worth it to add it in
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Job one is voice qulaity on a cell phone so the list above but fix the sound quality. I think the phone voice quality is lacking the the Fuze; incoming is very low and tinny, outgoing I get complaints like muffled and talking in a pipe. The phone voice quality on my Blackberry Bold and prior blackberrys is very good.
I agree the voice quality is not that good with the Touch Pro. I usually use mine with a bluetooth headset so it is not so much of an issue. The TP2 is supposed to have great sound quality on the speakers but i am sure it won't be that much better if you talk into it directly.
I think it may not be WM7 eligible because I think the device will have to be able to support multi touch. I am thinking that as soon as TP2 comes out we will start to hear about TP3. HTC says they will have snapdragon phones launching in Q2 2010.
No improvement in voice quality, I'm going to pass for sure. I did read where the AT&T version will have a 3.5mm jack and someone had a photo of the Sprint version with the jack shown.
I'd really like the upgrade ability to WM7 but if the screen was better in the sunlight, improved voice quality and the 3.5mm jack, I'd probably buy it.
Latest and Greatest
I will not jump on one when they are first released but I do want one. I just always have to have the latest and greatest but I'm gonna wait a couple of quarters to see where the competition is at. LG and Ericsson are starting to go WM, so as more manufactures enter the market, perhaps better hardware will follow.
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Job one is voice qulaity on a cell phone so the list above but fix the sound quality. I think the phone voice quality is lacking the the Fuze; incoming is very low and tinny, outgoing I get complaints like muffled and talking in a pipe. The phone voice quality on my Blackberry Bold and prior blackberrys is very good.
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i usually have bluetooth or headsets..... don't really care that much about voice quality as at&t's quality - ..... i take my phone more as a multitasking device than a calling device...
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I need some help people. I will be upgrading from my N95 this year. I am currently very pleased with the functionality of the phone, it does everything I could possible want, and it does it fairly quickly. I love the Speakers and the multimedia capabilities. So, I wanted to know, if I choose to upgrade to the X1 (Rogers will be getting it this year), how disappointed will I be? I really want a touch screen phone with a qwerty keyboard, so i'm stuck between the X1 and the touch Pro.
I was originally going for the Touch Pro, but I like the larger screen on the X1 and the ability to put Yado or Yada ( forget how to spell it) tabs or what ever in it. Also, there seems to be a large amount of complaints as to the build quality.
I will of course be testing the devices when they are released a month or two from now, but wanted some input. If I ultimately don't like either device I will be upgrading to the N96, selling it and buying the N97 unlocked later on this year.
So I guess my main question is, How disappointed will I be if I choose to upgrade to the X1 or the Touch pro?
Edit* do either of the phones support hand writing? And how accurate is it?
Well...
Both X1 or Touch Pro are great devices, and OS Windows Mobile 6.1 is much much greater than any Symbian OS, appart from that upgrading to any of those you mentioned you´ll have the support of this great site (Not with Nokia)
My personal recommendation would be the X1, and don´t think you will disapointed.
Good luck on your decision!
i went from a n95 to a touch diamond. i still miss the ease of use of the n95. im kinda regretting the decision.
Why not wait for the N97 if you're already so at home with the Symbian OS?
Myself, I can't pick just one phone. I have a Nokia E90 and an O2 XDA EXEC and depending on what I need to use my phone for on a particular day, I put my SIM in the phone most suited for this. And Nokia PC Suite and WMDC both work well allowing me to keep all my stuff up to date on both phones.
I upgraded from the e90 because of the touch screen.
Well, forget to be fine with WM, i am very disappointed.
Wait for n97.
alessio
The thing is, If I upgrade to the X1 or Touch Pro I will get a $650 credit. If I dont I have to pay out of pocket, or upgrade and sell the phone.
I love symbians functionality, but its boring IMO. I like the eye candy of touch flow more.
With the N97, i dont like the Dpad being on the left, and as I stated before, S60 is boring . So I think I may just end up going to the X1.
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
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S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
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Yes, but when used as a plain phone or as a multimedia device, unfortunately, HTC's current lineup has major problems. This is why I'm not absolutely sure he (she)'ll like the change.
Just remember that although the screen on the X1 may be "bigger" it is significantly narrower, that 480 pixel width occupies a smaller space. The X1 is definately an impressive device, but when compared to my touch pro, the narrow screen and lack of accelerometer were the deal breaker for me.
Mind you I love the panel interface which aaaaalmost makes up for it, but I love my TP and dont regret my decision in the slightest
Menneisyys said:
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
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How much worse is the quality of the camera on the X1? I dont mind no call recording, and stereo speakers is something that I might worry about. How decent are the speakers though, compared to the N95?
owziee said:
S60 is boring indeed... I've been a symbian S60 user for many years and I don't regret switching to wm 2 years ago... With wm the possibilities are endless...
Most S60 3rd Ed devices are very easy to use compared to wm devices but that's because they're designed to act more like feature phones even though they're actually smartphones. so you may find the X1 or Pro a bit complicated at first but after a while you'll love having a full fledged pc in your pocket
With wm you can do most of the stuff that you can do on a PC...
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Good to hear about ur positive switch. WM looks complicated looking at all the different ROMs and Radios which can be flashed.
Menneisyys said:
Yes, but when used as a plain phone or as a multimedia device, unfortunately, HTC's current lineup has major problems. This is why I'm not absolutely sure he (she)'ll like the change.
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Alrighty, so Multimedia usage is out? Crap.
euphoria47 said:
Just remember that although the screen on the X1 may be "bigger" it is significantly narrower, that 480 pixel width occupies a smaller space. The X1 is definately an impressive device, but when compared to my touch pro, the narrow screen and lack of accelerometer were the deal breaker for me.
Mind you I love the panel interface which aaaaalmost makes up for it, but I love my TP and dont regret my decision in the slightest
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I find that im just using the accelerometer for playing ball games such as marble maze (similar to teeter I think) on my N95.
I always thought that the screen was bigger on the Touch Pro width and Length? So that means its just longer?
Have you experienced and issues with your phone? And how did the keyboard compare to the X1's?
Do both phones support hand writing recognition?
Menneisyys said:
There are a lot of stuff far worse done by the current HTC or S-E lineup:
- camera
- no call recording
- no stereo speakers
If you (would) use these, go for the N97 instead.
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I got the HTC touch hd, and dont know what your talking about, the camera is great, ot only doesnt have a flash, but what flash on any mobile phone does create good pictures in the dark? I have yet to see a single phone that takes good looking pictures in the dark. I got call recording on it but ok i installed that custom. Stereo speakers are overrated imho, because any phone speakers suck anyway, at least for playing music, you should play music with earbuds, or trough car radio.
Maedhros said:
I find that im just using the accelerometer for playing ball games such as marble maze (similar to teeter I think) on my N95.
I always thought that the screen was bigger on the Touch Pro width and Length? So that means its just longer?
Have you experienced and issues with your phone? And how did the keyboard compare to the X1's?
Do both phones support hand writing recognition?
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1.I think you are right, the x1 seems longer, but it is the same.
2.I prefer the keyboard to the touch pro.
3.Both support handwriting recognition.
This link may be of interest to you:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-review-303.php
^ a review which compares X1 to touch pro
Snuurtje said:
I got the HTC touch hd, and dont know what your talking about, the camera is great, ot only doesnt have a flash, but what flash on any mobile phone does create good pictures in the dark? I have yet to see a single phone that takes good looking pictures in the dark. I got call recording on it but ok i installed that custom. Stereo speakers are overrated imho, because any phone speakers suck anyway, at least for playing music, you should play music with earbuds, or trough car radio.
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Yea, im sure their good, but coming from the N95, Carl Zeiss Optics lens + 5mp Camera. But it did suck at night shots.
I actually enjoyed listening to music through the N95 when im doing something and I dont want earbuds getting in my way.
euphoria47 said:
1.I think you are right, the x1 seems longer, but it is the same.
2.I prefer the keyboard to the touch pro.
3.Both support handwriting recognition.
This link may be of interest to you:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-review-303.php
^ a review which compares X1 to touch pro
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Good to know u liked the X1's keyboard more than the touch Pros. Touch Pros just seems more functional, and I like the rubbery feel (at least on Bells CDMA version)
Ok, so I can writing something with the stylus, and it will transfer it into text? So I can use it as an alternative text input method?
When you buy a S60 v3 FP1 phone, that will stay a S60 v3 FP1 phone forever.
I bought my Himalaya, brandnew, running Windows 2003 long time ago (cant remember the date). Comes the Windows 2003SE, I was able to upgrade it to Windows 2003SE. Then the Magneto, to Crossbow, and now, my beloved aging Himalaya is running WinMo 6.1. I'm hoping that there's a 6.5 upgrade for Himalaya.
WOW BREAKING NEWS
Touch Pro 2 News From engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-touch-pro2-is-awesome-in-ways-the-touch-pro-never-could-be/)
So, how do you make HTC's Touch Pro -- already near the top of the WInMo heap -- an even beefier device? For starters, you can throw out that nasty VGA screen of yesteryear and up it with a 3.6-inch 800 x 400 replacement. Next, add a dedicated touch-sensitive zoom slider that works overtime to take maximum advantage of said screen, then throw in a few key carryovers: 512MB of ROM, 288MB of RAM, microSD expansion, and a 3.2 megapixel cam. Meet the Touch Pro2, the official follow-up to HTC's popular series of QWERTY sliders that introduces so-called "Straight Talk" technology for "seamlessly" transitioning conversations between email, single-line calls, and party calls. It'll also automatically switch to the crazy high-performance, full-duplex speakerphone simply by flipping the phone over, so it's clear that this bad boy was meant for business. It'll launch early in the second quarter in parts of Asia and Europe with other "major global markets" following in early Summer.
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DETAILED INFORMATION HERE: http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=83956
I just wish it had tv-out or I'd get it (or the diamond2) I guess I'm the one who uses that feature a lot on my omnia.
Edit: My bad... It DOES have tv-out))
awesome..
now i know why peoples selling their phones
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The TouchPro 2 seems more like the Tytn II replacement to me,
I LIKE.
The touch pro is more business oriented. . . so it probably wont have alot of media features were hoping it has .
A dump promise
Hopefully, someone will soon get their hands on these units to dump the ROMs and port them to Touch Diamond and Touch Diamond Pro.
1-very nice but the lack of d-pad and other buttons is annoying as hell.
2-lets hope the fix the very very poor performance of the diamond this time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZHYimU-VHM&feature=related
3-also software,themes,apps development forums will be too segmented. diamond ,diamont2,tpro,tpro2, blackstone,x1 are all very similar phones(internally). is there a clean and logical way to combine them.
4-whats the code names of these two devices
very nice. Shame they wont work for more than about 3 minutes before something falls off/a random onboard chip of some random nature starts to malfunction.
HTC, design phones then get someone decent to manufacture them.... you cant manufature for toffe.
"...something falls off". Please explain. I've had the Diamond for 2/3 of a year now and nothing has "fallen off"....
In my opinion, the build quality of HTC products is impeccable.
Monty Burns said:
very nice. Shame they wont work for more than about 3 minutes before something falls off/a random onboard chip of some random nature starts to malfunction.
HTC, design phones then get someone decent to manufacture them.... you cant manufature for toffe.
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My experience of HTC hardware is far from good. BlueAngel (dead speaker), two TyTN's, one TyTN II and now a TD - all and i mean ALL of them have had at least one warranty repair or replacement. Actually , thats a lie: TD was sent back for a full refund under UK consumer law as "Not Fit For Purpose" as at the time there was no way to play music without the famous skipping/pause issue.
Just fire up google and use terms like "HTC" "hardware" "fault" "Issue" and so on .... you'll soon see what a timebomb of a device you have.
My Toshiba G900 and now Omnia have restored my faith in Smartphones and there reliability.
thats odd....my TyTNII(Kaiser, from USA) has been nothing short of amazing, and it has taken its share of nasty falls!
anyone know what carrier in the U.S will be providing the TP2??
im praying its AT&T, Its almost time for an upgrade, and I think im in love
Perhaps you got some Gremlins
My HTC phones all work like they did on their first day. I didnt have any hardware Problems and the software problems where solved by this nice Community.
Ok, i hve to admit that HTC really doesnt care that much software-wise... I bet they wont release proper drivers for these devices either...
Thats no problem for me though, as i wont buy another arm or qualcom based Smartphone anyway. Im up for atom-powered voice capable MIDs now.
Hmmm. Quite fancy the Pro 2. Shame it doesn't have a slightly beefier processor though. I'm sure these will be replaced by Snapdragon or Tegra devices shortly after I buy one!
i opened a similar thread but it's closed cause i was to slow
now my question again
what's that "zoom bar" supposed to do
but if HTC devices are built so horribly, why use them over and over?
operative1 said:
i opened a similar thread but it's closed cause i was to slow
now my question again
what's that "zoom bar" supposed to do
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my guess its just the touchwheel from diamond and tpro. not that usuful if you ask me since they could have added more usfel buttons with dpad or remove it for the sake of bigger screen or just remove it to make the phone smaller.
Copy from Raphael Thread
My thoughts:
1. First thing I thought was: I wonder if there will be some way to buy this from AT&T without breaking my contract? I mean, what do they do for people who got a 2-year contract with the original iPhone, and then a year later they want the new iPhone?
2. Longer battery life and a bigger screen are very welcome.
3. I hope that keyboard is a mock-up. Also, I can't imagine using a non-Fuze keyboard, let alone one of those 3-row keyboards most phones have, but it's just way too convenient to have all those punctuation marks available top row.
4. I wonder when this phone will reach stateside.
5. I wonder why the phone's specs aren't improved?
6. I wonder why it's not all-black. It better just be a mockup.
7. Almost Touch HD-sized screen, and the TYTTN II tilt *drools*
But really, it took an entire year for the Touch Pro to come out in the states, so who is really banking on this thing coming out by Summer? And what will AT&T do when I'm willing to give them 300 more dollars for the Touch Pro II, and I still have a contract?
Sure, it's not the improvement we'd all have made. Not more RAM, not a better processor, or drivers... but it's still an improvement over the Touch Pro (unless that isn't a mockup keyboard, in which case I may cry over the colour scheme and the fact that there are LESS KEYS on that phone than the existing Touch Pro) and I'll take it. Plus, the front-facing D-Pad is a pain to use anyway that I just open it up and use my Keyboard D-Pad.
Good point...
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but if HTC devices are built so horribly, why use them over and over?
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When will we see some dedicated forums for these devices...? moderators...?
HANDS ON VIDEOS
I'm fallin' in love... no kiddin
good to see the phone in action...all though i was tempted to mute the sound lol
What do you think?
There aren't much changes compare to the HTC Touch Pro... It's a real turn off for me. I don't even feel like I want to change phone.
- Different Design (I prefer the diamond back cover)
- The Tilt is back (YAY!).
- Bigger Screen, 3.6" instead of 2.8", and it's thinner
- It's Heavier than the HTC Touch Pro
- Processor "Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz" Instead of "Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz" (Same Speed thou)
- Memory and RAM are the same (Disappointed)
- Faster Download Speed, Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz (no America yet, but I'm sure they will come up with something)
- Camera is the same (so disappointed)
I was so eager to change phone from the Tilt to Touch Pro, but not to this phone... Except for the bigger Screen. The Good new is the phone seem to be cheap. So is it time to sell my Fuze yet?
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And additionnaly, there's no more D-PAD.
That's the same reason why I didn't go for the Touch HD.
I don't understand this "everything touch" trend.
I love the touchscreen, but I like being able to use the D-PAD for gaming, scrolling through list items and then "right clicking" an item, etc.
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And additionnaly, there's no more D-PAD.
That's the same reason why I didn't go for the Touch HD.
I don't understand this "everything touch" trend.
I love the touchscreen, but I like being able to use the D-PAD for gaming, scrolling through list items and then "right clicking" an item, etc.
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x2.
I hate not having a D-Pad. What if I don't want to smudge up my screen? A D-pad is a must-have for me.
I replaced an iPhone and a Tilt with a Touch Pro (Fuze) and I *really* miss the larger screen of the iPhone and the ability to tilt the screen. From everything I've read, I will be buying a TP2 as soon as it's available in the US for less than a fortune. Slingplayer will look fabulous on it, I'm sure.
The "everything touch" trend is real easy to understand. iPhone. Period. If it wasn't for Apple, I'd probably have gotten a new one instead of opting for a Fuze. But since Apple insists on treating iPhone users as if they're retarded, I moved on.
I love the bigger screen design but would miss the D-pad, love the tilt (but it is another thing to break) but i dont like the lack of new features (camera the same, same processor speed, same ram, same memory???) seems like they are tryin to pull a iPhone 3G on us... same phone minor improvements
How well do you suppose the camera will function? Do you think we will be able to learn anything from the Touch Pro 2 camera code/functionality that will help us improve the original Touch Pro camera?
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- Camera is the same (so disappointed)
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camera is not exactly the same as it wont have a flash, even more disappointing.
the tilting screen is a great thing, as i really miss the tilting screen of the tilt (kaiser)
Not worth it for me...
For me it's simple...
SAME camera (with no 30fps video)
+ SAME processor speed
+ SAME RAM
+ NO enhanced graphics
+ NO fixed GPS lag
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Waste of $$$
Even when and IF they come out with a US 3G model, my money will be staying in my wallet.
And it's stil on WM6.1, so disapointed.
I'm getting bore of my Fuze, I want to change to a new phone, but there isn't any good reason for me to do so... I'm so bored
For me, the return of the tilt screen and a large screen itself make it worth my money. The camera is nothing to me, I use a real camera anyway. What price marks are we seeing for this phone?
While I appreciate the bigger screen, I am not sure how responsive the device would be with higher resolution and same processor since we all know HTC doesn't believe in video acceleration / drivers in business phones.
TP2 is the reason my TP will live longer in my pocket, plus I am looking for other brands (AGAIN).
WHERE IS MY D-PAD!?
...and why limit it to 3.2MP when every other model has 5?
...and where is the flash!?
No thanks.
KevinACrider said:
For me, the return of the tilt screen and a large screen itself make it worth my money. The camera is nothing to me, I use a real camera anyway. What price marks are we seeing for this phone?
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I don't care much about camera either, but I care a lot about the speed. However, i agreed with you for the big screen...
Anyway, to answer your question about the price, this website is selling it for $750, which I think it's reasonable for a new phone. Check before you buy, I think it only works for Europe and Asia so far.
The bigger screen and the Tilt feature are big pluses for me, but the lack of D-pad is just weird. Also, I have a strong feeling that 2009 and 2010 will reveal alot of amazing devices from other manufacturers...plus HTC might release somethign else that is better. I currently have a Fuze and I think I will just wait. I want to see how WM7 pans out. I sold my iPhone for $400 and I'm saving the money for something that really deserves it. If I still had my Tilt, I would probably upgrade to the TP2, but from a Fuze to a TP2 doesn't make much sense to me.
Well...HTC lost me on this TP2. Not this time...
I honestly like the first Touch Pro more. I don't like the roundedness...I prefer sharp angles. It looks too fat lol.
I love the new Tilt design, it looks more tilted, but I personally prefer the diamond sharp on the back of my Fuze. And the USB slot look too UGLY, it's just coming out too much. I take back what I said about the Camera, I do use the camera on my device a lot lately, mostly because of the fast upload to Facebook.
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Seeing the big screen on this youtube, really make me want it now
Gimme your advice about the D-PAD problem : what do you use instead of it, for example for gaming and so on ? I mean, if you want to control some game emulator, do you use on screen buttons ? As the current devices are not multitouch (I don't want to speak about some well known IwannabeaPHONE), i don't think these are suitable for proper gaming.
Maybe the simple answer is "I don't use my device for gaming...".
What do you think ?
"Some" emulator programs allow onscreen virtual Dpads... but without multitouch, you'll be unable to simultaneously press onscreen buttons.
All games are different though. Some are simply point and click games which don't require a dpad. Others work well without a Dpad.
Most games will flat out be impossible to use.
I came from the Samsung Epix with its Optical Dpad/Mouse... to the Fuze for the Dpad. I later found that the Dpad isn't really a Dpad... but a touchscreen with optical sensors (which is why the Dpad on the fuze sucks; but at least it is a functioning dpad).
I swore my next phone will have a physical dpad and a jog wheel.
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I swore my next phone will have a physical dpad and a jog wheel.
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I'm surprised how few WM devices have a jog wheel; my last one was a FSC Loox 720 and a jog wheel was one of its major positive points back then. It hardly seems like it would be an expensive or difficult control to add, but I guess it's not free and so there's something for HTC to gain by not including one.
I also prefer the diamond back of the Touch Pro, not that the Vario IV has it anyway though (not clear why they had to change that).
I have a Touch Pro (standard with HTC Rom update), but had a chance to have a go with the Touch Diamond 2 that belongs to a colleague of mine yesterday and noticed a few things which have made me wonder about my TP.
1) The screen and scolling. It seemed more responsive than my TP and the scrolling of TF3D was really smooth - no little glitches or unresponsiveness.
2) TF3D has had a complete overhaul and is much better. There is a Calendar front end which is usable, the Start menu launches shortcut in finger friendly format - overall it just looks and feels what it should have been in the first place. I am using SPB3 at the moment and am really happy with it (it is a massive improvement over TP TF3D), but I think I would switch back if I could upgrade to this version - is that possible?
3) Hardware buttons. These are much better than on the TP, good quality and responsive. I have never fully got on with the hardware buttons on the TP below the screen.
All this has made me think about upgrading to a TP2, but it still has the 3.2MP camera......... Any news on a TP3?
think people are ripping out TD2's apps(Opera, calculator, QuickGPS,...), hopefully chefs will cook in into their roms soon
don't think TP->TP2 is worth it... you lose your $200 flashlight , gain screen size, gain stereo speakers, bigger device, not really worth the extra money unless you sell your TP1 and pay $50 more for a TP2?
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think people are ripping out TD2's apps(Opera, calculator, QuickGPS,...), hopefully chefs will cook in into their roms soon
don't think TP->TP2 is worth it... you lose your $200 flashlight , gain screen size, gain stereo speakers, bigger device, not really worth the extra money unless you sell your TP1 and pay $50 more for a TP2?
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I think its worth it.. I'm waiting for the touch pro 2 becuase i can't stand the circular pad on the front of the touch pro but still am kinda pissed there is no d-pad at all on the tp2.
I really miss the screen tilting feature from my kaiser
I will miss the flashlight, but can live without it.
Screen is much better on TP2 and the keyboard is amazing!
I'm going to be getting a new phone soon and being completely biased, what do you think I should get? The HD2 or the TP2?
Okay, 21 people and no reply? Not even a choice in the poll? Come on man!
I vote hd2. The display and hardware are excellent.
Thank you! Finally someone actually said something haha The people (person) have finally spoken a word haha
Depends entirely on what you want. The HD2 is a nice, high-spec piece of kit, but it's a bit on the large side. The Touch Pro 2 is more pocketable, and has the best keyboard I've seen in a phone.
These are personal observations, and it's why I traded my HD2 for a Touch Pro 2.
HTC HD2
pros:
1. faster processor
2. more memory
3. capacitive screen
4. largest screen on a WinMo device
5. 16gb card included
6. hspa+ capable (not sure if tp2 is, but probably is also)
7. thinner
Touch Pro2
1. best hardware keyboard of any slider device
guess you can tell which way I voted.
To the person that said the tp2 is more pocketable, they are crazy. Yes the hd2 is bigger, but the tp2 is much fatter.
I have the TP2 and trust me it is becoming outdated fast. Get the HD2 or better yet wait another month or 2 because WP7 should be dropping by the end of this year.
If you must choose between one of these two phones, get the HD2. I have a TP2 because I want a hardware keyboard, but man is this thing slow by today's standards.
If you can wait though, there are a TON of better phones about to be released. It's worth waiting if you can.
Yeah, I completely agree with you about the Touch Pro 2 becoming outdated, I think if they would have just waited and relaesed it with better specs more people would buy it and it would have been a completely better product to sell and buy. I'm leaning more towards the HD2...especially since I can just hook up a mini bluetooth keyboard up to it and type off of that like a super slacker
But I digress, it sadens me that the touch pro 2 is getting outdated so quickly. I don't know how I feel about WP7 right now...I'm going to have to get a feel of it before I make an opinion on that but from what I've read, I'm not liking some of that stuff and I don't like that crappy "zune" concept that they are giving it. They should make it original. To me it seems like Gates and Jobs are having a battle to see whose phone will resemble their MP3's more haha
Beside the hardware keyboard, there is another function that keeps me to stay with Rhodium TP2, that is its dominant accoustic/sound performance. It is equipped with dual speaker and dual microphone. In addition, you can turn it into a conference phone by simply turn it upsidedown and put on the table during a phone call. Up to now I did not find any other hand phones with such good speaker phone performance.
I do also have a Leo, but the sound performance is far behind.
I did like the sound on the TP2 (I've played with both the HD2 and the TP2) but the sound really isn't that important as long as it's still audible like the HD2 and I'm not really a business man so the laying down of the TP2 to have it in speaker is awesome...but not really needed since I mostly use bluetooth. By the by, does anyone know if you can actually have Android as the main Rom for your HD2? (Meaning, the phone turns off, turns back on and android is loaded without having WM 6.5 as the middle man)
I voted HD2
I find the TP2 a little bit out-dated at this moment.
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I voted HD2
I find the TP2 a little bit out-dated at this moment.
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Yeah, it definitely is. Honestly though the only other HTC phone that stands out to me is the HD2...well that and the G2
Bro. Coming from a guy that has both. I actually like the HD2 better. The touch pro 2 is a great phone but the HD2 is far more advanced and the modding ability (if your into that type of thing) is great for both WM and Android. I cant go back. The touch pro 2 still is a good phone. Just may be outdated at this point.
I voted HD2. I love mine.
i have the hd2 and im very happy.so my next phone is hd3.haven't see it yet;see it and wait.all the money.
TP2 have a lovely sound play xD.......its amazing and the best keyboard ever done....But other way, HD2 have a better screen, much more fast (the TP2 its very noise about speed :S)
But...hd2 can be dificult with touch screen...dont support any stylus :S
Don't get either. Wait for one of the new WP7 devices.
Go for the HD2 unless you really want the keyboard IMHO.
I have used TP2 since its release to Tmobile then switched to HD2 recently. After using HD2 for a couple of months, I can't stand the resistive touch screen that TP2 uses anymore. The capacitive touch is much much more sensitive.
Now I'm using TP2 as a backup phone in case HD2 goes out but if I had the choice initially, I would be all in for HD2.
BTW, unless you have to have WM6.5, the new MyTouch 4G and Samsung Vibrant are pretty good as well.