How exactly do you power down a Universal other than removing the battery? The "power" button only dims or switches off the display. Is there a way to make it really switch off the device?
PDA's running Windows Mobile are not designed to be powered off.
You can turn off all radio (wireless, GSM, BT), you can turn off the screen, but you can't actually turn off the device itself.
This is to keep your tasks and calendar running, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, as you could forget to turn on your device to be altered to a scheduled event.
But yes, it can be a pain. In my case, I own several phones running Windows Mobile and what I do is to periodically recharge them.
Failing to do so could in my opinion harm the built-in battery designed to keep essential data alive, when you swap your battery.
If you want to store your device for a long period (months or years), you should consider removing the main battery. Still you can suffer from a leaking internal battery. Don't quote me on this, though.
I prefer to recharge unused devices every month at least.
Cheers,
vma
Incorrect. PDAs running WM can be switched off
and you can turn the entire device off. There are ROMs that include the power off option that will turn the device off completely. I think the proggie is called PC Shut Off, have to find the exact name. I have the shut off function on my Elf and Wizard shuts off just fine. You get a warning that you may lose any unsaved info etc.
For longer storage options take the battery out.
Who wants to turn off their Uni!!!?
I have never turned off in 4 years, never!
If I dont want to recieve a call: Ignore
If I dont wanna hear sound: mute
If I dont want to have any comms on: I turn it off
Just my opinion...
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I have owned and still own several WM devices. The Uni remains the only one I cannot power down. When you press and hold the power button on the Touch Pro, it powers down after a prompt. The same with Advantage, and the TyTN 2, all of which I still own. Indeed, the Uni is the only WM device I have used (and still use) which uses what should be the power-down function to dim the display - a totally useless function in my view!
By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?
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By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?
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I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me
psShutXP
@enigma1nz I think you mean psShutXP. I tested it. When I use the option "Turn off" the device is in normal "sleep-mode".
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orb3000 said:
I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me
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Many of us know that these days planes do not crash because there is a mobile phone that is not switched off. But I am talking about compliance with instructions. I still believe it is a design flaw in the Universal. I have been hoping someone would cook a ROM that makes the power button to really power down, but it seems none as yet.
Earlier devices doesn't support complete power off because of the HW design. But you can do it in latest devices.
Just think about the power supply model of AT and ATX PC's...
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I have just purchased the above smartphone and am having trouble finding the answers to a few basic questions:-
1. How do you turn off the MDA? The manual tells you to hold power button down for 2 seconds but this does not work. Aslo tried holding down for various time ranges. T-Mobile support tells me that you have to take out the battery which seems unreal given the number of places mobiles are banned.
2. Can you use the MDA functions without the phone (e.g. MP3 Player or Organiser while on a plane)?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Kind Regards
hut1
I believe these devices do not actually turn off. Holding down the power button puts the device in to standy mode.
There is feature called 'Flight Mode' (check it out in your manual); This is the feature you would switch off in 'no mobile phone areas'. The 'phone' side of the device will not operate when in this mode but the rest of the PDA functions will.
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1. How do you turn off the MDA? The manual tells you to hold power button down for 2 seconds but this does not work.
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You have to press the power button for a short time -> Just press and release..... This turns off the display. The phone part will still be working.
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T-Mobile support tells me that you have to take out the battery which seems unreal given the number of places mobiles are banned.
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In this case the MDA is completly off....
hut1 said:
2. Can you use the MDA functions without the phone (e.g. MP3 Player or Organiser while on a plane)?
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Yes you can. Therefor you´re able to turn of wireless communcations (Bluetooth and GSM) by activating flightmode....
HTH
Stefan
You can never fully turn off a PocketPC- if you do, it will lose its memory and wipe everything in memory (not storage card). This can only happen if you remove the battery or don't charge for a long time.
However, turning off the phone with the power button puts it in standby mode, it's still awake to respond to schedules/alarms/phonecalls etc, but otherwise it's not doing much.
To go to flight mode, click on the network icon next to the clock and choose flight mode.
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First Time on this forum and what a swift response, thanks to all for your answers, I now have it sussed and faith is once more restored in my MDA
Excuse me I'm almost suicidal.
I hold the two keys down that bring up the hardware control panel, I turn off the mobile phone, bluetooth, wifi, and activesync, I open the task manager and stop any active processes, I turn my xda off (at least I think I do) and BEHOLD in just a few short minutes the stinking thing turns itself back on again, and stays on.
My PC informs me it has an activesync connection yet my hardware panel says its turned off, I try move some files around and sure enough I can gain access to my memory card, I run task manager and despite the hardware panel telling me activesync is not working the task manager knows different.
Not only has activestink decided its gonna work even though I've told it not to I HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION! , talk about a security risk.
WTF is in control of this pile of junk, me or the hardware/software.
Please tell me there is a fix for this, when I turn something off I expect it to stay turned off (completely) until I turn it back on again.
Now if you don't mind I'm going to lay down and have a nervous break down.
Dude you really need to chill.
These things do require some potions .
I do not know the exec in person but all HTC and most other WM 5 devices shut down completely when you hold the "standby" button for 10 seconds or more. (On the exec i believe it is a small round metal color button on one of the sides.)
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Dude you really need to chill.
These things do require some potions .
I do not know the exec in person but all HTC and most other WM 5 devices shut down completely when you hold the "standby" button for 10 seconds or more. (On the exec i believe it is a small round metal color button on one of the sides.)
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Been there, pressed that, still turns itself back on, even tried a factory reset and it still does it.
Probably micro$oft being insane again.
Perhaps buying a device with a Microsoft OS was not the right choice if you think they are insane?
The Universal doesn't have the full off feature as some other devices do, and if you use pushmail solutions, it will sometimes turn itself on if you have the screen open.
It also does this on a few other devices.
Using the device lock option on the doday screen prevents the problem, there may be other fixes by now, but that, or closing the screen are the simplest.
Some other today plugins, I forget the name, will give you an auto lock option when you press the power.
That said though, I use pushmail, and mine doesn't come on that I have noticed, but my Wizard does unless I lock it.
Hi all!
I used to have an Eten Glofiish x800. On this smartphone, I was running Cartoexplorer in order to record my travel using the GPS. The GPS was active even in sleeping mode.
I now have a HTC Touch HD and each time I switch to sleeping mode (upper button), the GPS desactivates. I can't record my travel.
Do you have any idea to solve this problem? can we change a registry key in order to keep the GPS on?
Thank you for your help!
As far as I know, the only thing you can do to keep the GPS on in ur device is to use a power manager found on here and only shut off the screen. if anyone else has another idea, i too would be glad to know.
Hey fellow Glofiish person. I have the M800, as well as the (HTC)TyTn II-so I know how different they are. You're correct-the Eten NEVER actually powers-off (unless/until the battery dies.).. which kind-of honks me off. The HTC, on the other hand, HAS a true 'power-down'/off button. (Please, I mean no offense by this)- When you say 'sleeping mode', do you mean pushing the top right button JUST long enough to turn off the screen, or are you holding it down to where you get the "Power will be turned off, save your data, blah blah blah?" 'Cause, if you just turn off the SCREEN, the GPS WILL still be running...& you should be all good.
what are you using to trace the route?
I used MyMotion and it keeps your device active while the gps is active.
I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM
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I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM
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Find a program that only shuts the screen off like HandyMenu.
The power button puts the phone in standby.
I use Pocket controller to view the phone on my PC and use Haandy Menu to turn off the screen.
Is there much difference in power consumption between standby and just screen off?
What I'm thinking is, is it a good idea to change the function of the power button (I know there are tools to do that) to only switch off the screen in normal use as well or am I going to just make the short battery life more of an issue?
Cheers,
FM
I might have missed the point here, but why would you only want to turn the screen off in normal use?
I can understand not wanting the screen on (in line of sight) if its in a cradle syncing all day, but unless you're wanting to have programs running & working all day (gps mapping something i guess) i cant see any advantage.
Finally, i'm not sure if you can unmap the power button, you can almost certainly re-map it, but that may not remove the original function (i cant test today, mine's off for repair).
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The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
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I've often wondered the same thing. My phone sits on ActiveSync all day at work with the screen un-necessarily on. There has to be a fix other than a paid application...
Essentially I'd like to replicate the power button function of the SE X1 on the Touch Pro.
The X1 seems to only power off the screen rather than going into standby - ie all apps keep running, bluetooth and wifi stay connected etc.
This means that when the phone is connected using MyMobiler or similar the screen can be off as I am displaying the screen contents on my PC screen.
Rather than having a seperate function to switch the screen off (I'm going to try EdgeWat PocketPC Utils for that), it would be nice if the power button could be mapped to just switch the screen off.
My concern is that if I swap the functionality of the power button (their do seem to be a few apps that allow you to re-assign the power button funtion) I won't just be using it this way when the phone is connected to a PC, I will ALWAYS be just switching the screen off. So, when I am out and about would doing this cause a big increase in battery drain?
-FM
And I would guess this functionality must be possible in software as it seem the Pandora client does it when you are running it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534319&page=7
-FM
Hi,
I've had my HTC titan for a few weeks now (since UK launch), and I am having a problem with the phone rebooting itself in my pocket, when I sit down. Now I am pretty sure that this is actually a windows phone bug AKA "Feature", but one that is more evident on the Titan due to it's size.
The problem is that when I sit down and lean forward (e.g. to tie my shoes), the power button gets pressed into my hip and is held down..and then after a few seconds the phone reboots. This is even with the locking enabled and pin protection.
Has anyone else come across this issue? Is there a way to prevent the phone rebooting from a long press of the power button? I am seriously regretting switching over to windows mobile again because of this issue..it's a real pain..I don;t mind if there is an app/mod I can install to fix this if it's not possible via standard settings (something like pShutXP for WM6) ..any ideas at all would be *very* welcome!
Thanks,
Spud/Pete
so, let me get this straight:
1) you want to disable the power button? How would you turn off the phone afterwards?
2) to turn off the phone, you need to slide down the lockscreen, and this is very unlikely to happen
3) if "you are tying your shoes" long enough, this will initiate hard shutdown of the device
So no, no way, carry the phone elsewhere.
Yeah, I'm confused by this too - as of Mango, simply holding down the power button won't ever turn off the phone (though it will show half the lock screen, with a prompt to slide it down fully to turn the phone off). Since the Titan comes with Mango... yeah, confused.
No..I am not talking about turning off the phone - thats completely different as you say, you have to slide down the screen and as its capacitive..that's pretty unlikely to happen in my pocket.
I am talking about the phone rebooting - I can replicate it in my hand by holding down the power button and the phone will reboot itself without touching the screen.
I don't want to disable the power button - I want to disable this reboot on long press functionality..as it's a right pain.
Maybe this is peculiar to the Titan rather than a general WinMob feature..but try it on your mango phone - lock the phone, and hold down the power button for around 10 seconds..don't touch the screen. Does it reboot?
Ideally holding down the button should just show the "slide to turn off" screen and nothing else, there is no need for that kind of hard reboot function when you can take the battery out on these devices..
Suggesting that I just don't have my phone in my pocket is not very helpful tbh- where else should I carry it?
No, my HD7 does not reboot if I hold the power button. I almost wish it would, since if the screen locks up I can't power-cycle the phone without removing the battery.
If there's not anyway to carry the phone such that it doesn't hit the power button (not a problem I have with my HD7, but I've never tried carrying a Titan in my pocket), consider getting a case - many of them can make the power button a little "stiffer" and less likely to be pressed accidentally.
I can confirm the problems Spud1 has!
Just like him i own myself a HTC Titan and with WP7.5 you can reboot the phone even when you don't slide down to shut down the pohone.
And that is VERY VERY annoying, even so much that i almost want to switch back for an android phone...
You can replicate this "feature" bij locking the phone when you push the start button on the top and put the phone in rest. (black screen) Then hold down the start button and do nothing. You get the half"Slide down screen to shut down the phone. Still don't do anything, no sliding, just hold the button. After 6/7seconds the phone wil just reboot!
This happens me also and can be replicated at least also on a HTC Trophy (it just shuts down) i believe it can be replicated on the Samsung omnia7.
This is something were i had contact over by chat and phone with HTC. But they will not help or are in no position to sort this out... A brick wall, and i got dissapointed by service.
I dont know how to get in contact with MS, otherwise i would love to do this!
So people, try it out, en then someone to solve this thing, i would rather pull my battery for a restart than this "feature"
PS. sorry for my typo's as a first post..
I've got this too on my trophy !!!!!
I can confirm this problem also on my Mozart.
It is probably one of the 500 innovations in mango.
Sent from my 7 Mozart using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Innovations i can understand, but the Titan is an 4,7inch phone.
When you have this in the pocket of your jeans, like 85% of the people does, there is problem with this so called innovation.
And believe me, supportdesk at HTC in the Netherlands make me feel stupid about our complaints. The freaking phone restarts after 6 seconds while sitting on your knees or bend over to tie your shoe's...
Is there anybody over here who knows how to deal with this/disable it or has connections to discuss this problem with HTC or MS?
I can confirm this problem on HTC Trophy too(custom rom)
If i hold down Power button ,slider shows up .If i continue to press Power Button and do nothing my phone is power down (not restart)
It's a standard WP7 behavior, why do all of you complain? It's not a problem but standard feature (to be able to reboot phone if touchscreen stop working). Buy another, not so tight, jeans or belt phone holder or protective case.
Who said i wear tide jeans?
There are also people on a Dutch forum that had problems with some protecting cases or just in a bag. And that was with the Trophy.
I finally love the system itself, but this is a 4.7 inch phone where i payed a lot of money for, so i'm allowed to expect something.
Apparently the Systems features and the size make it a combined "problem".
a lot of people get this problem now and in the future when Sales go up!
BAM., there is nothing what you can do. I think it's by hardware design so there are no registry settings to disable power button. But what you expected is absolutely irrelevant to the current WP7 products
That is a straight forward answer! Until now HTC didn't give a proper explanation..
If it is hardware related, this is the only thing that s#cks on wp7/HTC Titan. But i still don't think so, because other ones, like the trophy just shut down.. No restart!
It just feels so dissapointing... Because i really started to like WP7.
Hopefully there will come a MS answer somewere/sometime for this.
thnx anyway!
Omnia 7 has the same behavior (press and hold makes the scroll down menu appear, keep holding and the device reboots) so it's not restricted to HTC devices.
Fortunately, I tie my shoes really fast
lg quantum here, same thing lol
Confirmed on my HTC Surround, phone shuts down. Also on my Blackberry 8350i (although power button is right below the screen and it comes with a holster so not really an issue). Pretty sure that the Evo Shift I used to have for work would do the same thing.
It's a pretty logical function though. If your phone were to lock up for some reason, there's no soft reset button that you can press. This serves the same function. Try holding down the power button of your PC for a few seconds. You'll find that it does the same thing. When you first press it your computer will (probably) start the shutdown process but if you keep holding it then it goes straight to off.
It's logical for a PC, or maybe even for a device where you cannot remove the battery or there is no other way to reboot the phone if it locks up (but who's to say that this "feature" will even work when the phone locks up anyway..)
But for a mobile phone where the power button can easily be pressed accidentally, where a device has to deal with much more than just sitting on a desk..no that is just poor design.
I understand that for many people it won't be an issue - but the fact remains that for lots of us it is (it's good to see that it's not just me!)...and calling it a "feature" doesn't help (thats a long running trick in the software trade..many features are just bugs/poor design disguised as such!).
I suspect that to fix this problem we are going to have to wait for a full unlock for HTC mango devices, so that we can load native apps who can potentially resolve the problem. I don't know enough about WM7 development yet to know if you can get at the Hardware Interrupts or not but if we can do that, then I am sure we can fix it. It's possible there will be some registry/configuration options too buried deep in the system, but without the interop-unlock we're stuck I think..
HTC/MS support sure as hell won't help us out as it's definitely going to be called a feature, no matter how big of an annoyance it is.
This combined with the discovery of how terrible Bing searching is has really put me off Windows Phone 7 though (the terrible search is the worst thing)..I'll be jumping back to iPhone next yearwhen Apple release their redesigned one, can't see a reason not to anymore. Which is a shame as I love the device + UI
Spud1, the long power button press can be handled by hardware schematics, not a firmware or drivers (but actually I don't know exactly, of course). So, your hope is very weak...
True it can - but you could override this kind of behaviour in WM 6.x..and WP7 is still just windows CE with a layer over the top really, so there is a good chance that it's doable.
The thing that makes me think it's possible is that people who have upgraded their devices to Mango from NoDo seem to have the same issue - which leads me to believe that it's partly to do with Mango rather than down to specific devices..but to be sure more people who have those kind of devices (and particularly those without a HTC device) need to read this thread and reply