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How do I REALLY turn my xda exec "OFF"

Excuse me I'm almost suicidal.
I hold the two keys down that bring up the hardware control panel, I turn off the mobile phone, bluetooth, wifi, and activesync, I open the task manager and stop any active processes, I turn my xda off (at least I think I do) and BEHOLD in just a few short minutes the stinking thing turns itself back on again, and stays on.
My PC informs me it has an activesync connection yet my hardware panel says its turned off, I try move some files around and sure enough I can gain access to my memory card, I run task manager and despite the hardware panel telling me activesync is not working the task manager knows different.
Not only has activestink decided its gonna work even though I've told it not to I HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION! , talk about a security risk.
WTF is in control of this pile of junk, me or the hardware/software.
Please tell me there is a fix for this, when I turn something off I expect it to stay turned off (completely) until I turn it back on again.
Now if you don't mind I'm going to lay down and have a nervous break down.

Dude you really need to chill.
These things do require some potions .
I do not know the exec in person but all HTC and most other WM 5 devices shut down completely when you hold the "standby" button for 10 seconds or more. (On the exec i believe it is a small round metal color button on one of the sides.)

levenum said:
Dude you really need to chill.
These things do require some potions .
I do not know the exec in person but all HTC and most other WM 5 devices shut down completely when you hold the "standby" button for 10 seconds or more. (On the exec i believe it is a small round metal color button on one of the sides.)
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Hi'
Been there, pressed that, still turns itself back on, even tried a factory reset and it still does it.
Probably micro$oft being insane again.

Perhaps buying a device with a Microsoft OS was not the right choice if you think they are insane?
The Universal doesn't have the full off feature as some other devices do, and if you use pushmail solutions, it will sometimes turn itself on if you have the screen open.
It also does this on a few other devices.
Using the device lock option on the doday screen prevents the problem, there may be other fixes by now, but that, or closing the screen are the simplest.
Some other today plugins, I forget the name, will give you an auto lock option when you press the power.
That said though, I use pushmail, and mine doesn't come on that I have noticed, but my Wizard does unless I lock it.

How to turn Backlight OFF

Hello,
i am using my touch cruise (or better o2 xda orbit 2) for navigating on my bike.
I use it in my pocket, only listening. After some research and testing i found a way to use tomtom with locked screen.
I now want to turn the backlight off because of power consumption. But when locked the backlight is only turned to minimum, not off. How can i turn off the backlight completely ?
I tried several tools which turns the whole display off. This works fine with all applications except tomtom, i dont know why but as soon as the display is switched off tomtom stops.
So i want to turn at least the backlight completely off, but how can i do that?

remoh said:
Hello,
i am using my touch cruise (or better o2 xda orbit 2) for navigating on my bike.
I use it in my pocket, only listening. After some research and testing i found a way to use tomtom with locked screen.
I now want to turn the backlight off because of power consumption. But when locked the backlight is only turned to minimum, not off. How can i turn off the backlight completely ?
I tried several tools which turns the whole display off. This works fine with all applications except tomtom, i dont know why but as soon as the display is switched off tomtom stops.
So i want to turn at least the backlight completely off, but how can i do that?
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With my older pocketpc's and pocketphone's the backlight could be turned down with pressing the power button for a longer period.
I told it was about 3 sec holding te powerbutton and the backlight stops.
But with the HTC TC i din't tried it yet..and my device is now at the repair centre..so you have to try it.
But when the backlight is down..you don't see a think when ther is enough sun light..so why do you want that..buy a usb car powerplug and you can charge it and use it with full light on!

Does not work (3sec pwr button)
I dont need to see anything on the screen. it will be in my pocket while navigating so theres no need for backlight.
And a car charger on the motorbike - that would need a socket to plug it in.

remoh said:
Does not work (3sec pwr button)
I dont need to see anything on the screen. it will be in my pocket while navigating so theres no need for backlight.
And a car charger on the motorbike - that would need a socket to plug it in.
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Strange with my device it works.
But you can try this software: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
TDO

TDO said:
Strange with my device it works.
But you can try this software: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
TDO
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Thanks, i already tried it before. As soon as the screen gets black TomTom stops.
It says it turns the backlight off but as far as i can see it disables the whole screen. And as soon as this happens the f***ing TomTom stops the Navigation.
If i press the pwr button for 3 sec the device asks me if i want to turn it off.

remoh said:
After some research and testing i found a way to use tomtom with locked screen.
I now want to turn the backlight off because of power consumption.
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Hi remoh, I'm having the same problem. Have you found a solution for disabling the backlight by now?
How did you manage to lock the screen and keep TomTom navigating?

Let me get this straight... do you want to turn the screen off (i.e. lock it) or just turn off the backlight (in which case the screen remains active)?
For the second case there should be some options for it in TomTom, but it's primarily for in-car use. (never used TomTom before, it's crap for my country... i'm just basing on iGO)

gnick666 said:
Let me get this straight... do you want to turn the screen off (i.e. lock it) or just turn off the backlight (in which case the screen remains active)?
For the second case there should be some options for it in TomTom, but it's primarily for in-car use. (never used TomTom before, it's crap for my country... i'm just basing on iGO)
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Being able to turning the screen off would be great but just being able to turn off the backlight would be fine also. Tomtom doesn't have an option for this afaik.

Now, thats the second reason i won't use TomTom... if the first wasn't enough
Not even power saving options?

HTC Touch Pro power on button problem

Hi guys, I find this quite annoying and wish there is a mod for this. I don't know about other HTC Touch Pro owners but i find my fone quite sensitive.........it's "EASILY" turned on by a single "SHORT" press of the power button.
I didn't even hold it for 1 second, if i suddenly press or tap on it really quick, for not even a second, it turns on.
In case ppl don't understand and tell me that maybe my fone was on in the first place but just have the backlight off, and with a single tap on the power button, the backlight goes back on again. I knew that already. But what the problem really is, is that it's totally off, and when i tap the power on button, it turns on, i.e it vibrates and shows the welcome screen and all that other startup animation.
Is there a way to increase the delay of the finger-press on the power button? Coz it's so annoying that it gets turned on when i don't want it to, especially since this fone's weakness is that it hogs battery even though i've already applied tons of tweaks etc to lower the performance and increase battery life......
Oh and i have another problem, i find the signal kinda weak, is there a program or tweak to increase the signal?? Coz on my old phone Sony Ericsson W950i, the signal is great and I never have bad signal problems with it. But using HTC Touch Pro, i have this problem. This only happens when i'm at Uni, but it's not like they have bad reception or signal blockers there like how schools or colleges have. Just that when i'm inside buildings and there're tons of other buildings around, i can't send the txt coz of bad signals and it's bloody annoying, but using my W950i works fine.....
also I noticed that when i type a txt message using the hardware keyboard, it seems to fail to send most of the time, but only when i'm in UNI. But if i switch to the software keyboard, the one that you use ur fingers or stylus, then when i send the message it often works compare to using hardware keyboard.......any ideas?

Problem No 1: Try Touch Lock Pro
Problem No 2: Try to burn the newest RadioROM.

thx but i'm not trying to lock my phone, so i don't think TouchLock Pro is what i need.......

My Raphael turns also on after pressing the power button for a little few moment. With touchlock Pro you can prevent that you mistake your Raphael. I hope you can understand what I write in my "own" english

Ok so i've got it installed now and went through all the settings but couldn't find anything that can delay the power-on button press, I still have this problem. The app is a screen-lock app, there aren't any options regarding to power-on delays.......
plz tell me what settings etc to use.

I've never said that you can fix your problem with TouchLock Pro. With this you prevent to use your Raphael when you press your power button accidentally.

ya but that's only useful when my fone is on and it locks the phone but i'm trying to prevent my fone from turning on in the first place if i accidentally press the power on button for not even 1 second, because then it will turn on and i don't want that.

same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???

jewelkobayashi said:
same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???
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wow yay finally someone else other than me also report having the same problem, boy am i glad to know that i'm not the only one having this problem, i thought it was just something wrong with my fone and not all HTC Touch Pros....
i can't believe there aren't any results on Google, no forum discussions or solutions to this whatsoever. Also, nobody seemed to report this problem or come up with a solution on XDA as well as other forums i use like PPCgeekz or WMusers etc.........which is odd considering how this problem is quite annoying, that if u suddenly power on the fone by accident, it can drain battery life and god knows HTC Touch Pro has a crap battery life.............

I think that htc has done a bad job testing the powerbutton on the tp2.
There are some other things like weith, thikness and batterylife that could be improved but the powerbutton issue is realy a BIG bug.
Why they didn't make a slidebutton or a timeout between push and activation?
A dobble tap on the powerbutton could also be a solution.
The next rom shoold have a improvement about this button.
People, please react on the powerbutten problem so someone can fix this.
Thanx

jewelkobayashi said:
same problem here...the phone I thought I had turned off was back on, because accidently it got touched by something else in my luggage.
The only solution which to me is unsatisfactory, is to take out the battery so that it cannot power up.
C'mon...there has to be a better solution than this, no???
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Leaving the Touch Pro (Raphael) for some minutes without battery will stop the clock. So, when you put back on the battery and power up the device, the clock will display the wrong time. The time when you remove the battery.

This is hardware related.
Can produced different symptoms though.
Facts Behind the Power Button
If take a look at the inside of the powerbutton, there are 2 points making contact when you press the button. If you press it, the software will recognize this and the screen will turn off.
If you press it long enough you'll get the "QuickShutdown" message.
But, if water/alchohol/liquid gets underneath the button, the 2 points may be making contact, because water/alcohol conducts.
The button is very weak. Due to this, it may not properly work if you have used it for a long time.
As a result, despite the fact that you hit hibernate/sleep/suspend on the hardware power button = yes, the screen fades to black. But IT IS STILL ON. That explains the battery being drained.
Solution:
Open the phone hardware. Clean the power button connector manually.
Disassembling Instructions:http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
Power Button Connector: http://kudryashovda.ru/content/ne-rabotaet-knopka-vklyucheniya-na-htc-diamond

off / on / off on
i heart everyone talking about the sleep of death and to be honest, i havent really experienced this, but i definatley do have an intermitent power on and off button problem on my touch pro 2.
i read on some other forum that it could possibly be the slider that is casuing the problem. but to be honest, the button its self feels fine and looks fineand when i does work it works a treat. i havent had any water damage done to it what so ever. so im not sure , i am new too all this self help mobile stuff. so please excuse my ignorance. Ive doen the usual hard reset, button works for a few hours then calls it a day. soft rest, was working up until this week. i cant get ot to boot up again, while fiddling with the batter and a power lead. but the power button is so intermitent its driving me nuts. id be so grateful if anyone could shine any form of light on this. thanks in advance

Powering down a Universal

How exactly do you power down a Universal other than removing the battery? The "power" button only dims or switches off the display. Is there a way to make it really switch off the device?

PDA's running Windows Mobile are not designed to be powered off.
You can turn off all radio (wireless, GSM, BT), you can turn off the screen, but you can't actually turn off the device itself.
This is to keep your tasks and calendar running, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, as you could forget to turn on your device to be altered to a scheduled event.
But yes, it can be a pain. In my case, I own several phones running Windows Mobile and what I do is to periodically recharge them.
Failing to do so could in my opinion harm the built-in battery designed to keep essential data alive, when you swap your battery.
If you want to store your device for a long period (months or years), you should consider removing the main battery. Still you can suffer from a leaking internal battery. Don't quote me on this, though.
I prefer to recharge unused devices every month at least.
Cheers,
vma

Incorrect. PDAs running WM can be switched off
and you can turn the entire device off. There are ROMs that include the power off option that will turn the device off completely. I think the proggie is called PC Shut Off, have to find the exact name. I have the shut off function on my Elf and Wizard shuts off just fine. You get a warning that you may lose any unsaved info etc.
For longer storage options take the battery out.

Who wants to turn off their Uni!!!?
I have never turned off in 4 years, never!
If I dont want to recieve a call: Ignore
If I dont wanna hear sound: mute
If I dont want to have any comms on: I turn it off
Just my opinion...

Powering down the Universal
I have owned and still own several WM devices. The Uni remains the only one I cannot power down. When you press and hold the power button on the Touch Pro, it powers down after a prompt. The same with Advantage, and the TyTN 2, all of which I still own. Indeed, the Uni is the only WM device I have used (and still use) which uses what should be the power-down function to dim the display - a totally useless function in my view!
By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?

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By the way, on many flights, you are told to completely switch off all electronic devices - not just put them on "flight" mode, during take-off and landing. With a Uni, how do you comply?
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I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me

psShutXP
@enigma1nz I think you mean psShutXP. I tested it. When I use the option "Turn off" the device is in normal "sleep-mode".

Powering down the Universal
orb3000 said:
I simply turn off all comms and push the off button! that´s it
And any plane has going down doing this, and I travel a lot!
Nothing happens believe me
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Many of us know that these days planes do not crash because there is a mobile phone that is not switched off. But I am talking about compliance with instructions. I still believe it is a design flaw in the Universal. I have been hoping someone would cook a ROM that makes the power button to really power down, but it seems none as yet.

Earlier devices doesn't support complete power off because of the HW design. But you can do it in latest devices.
Just think about the power supply model of AT and ATX PC's...

USB/ActiveSync to stay connected when screen off

I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM

fatmonk said:
I've searched for this one but can't find any mention of it...
I'm finally switching back to an o2 Serra / Touch Pro after they finally admitted to having some in stock again! (Not through sales channels though, and it took a five page letter complaining about their Customer Service!).
Anyway, over the last 3 months I've had to make do with an SE xPeria X1.
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
Cheers,
FM
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Find a program that only shuts the screen off like HandyMenu.
The power button puts the phone in standby.
I use Pocket controller to view the phone on my PC and use Haandy Menu to turn off the screen.

Is there much difference in power consumption between standby and just screen off?
What I'm thinking is, is it a good idea to change the function of the power button (I know there are tools to do that) to only switch off the screen in normal use as well or am I going to just make the short battery life more of an issue?
Cheers,
FM

I might have missed the point here, but why would you only want to turn the screen off in normal use?
I can understand not wanting the screen on (in line of sight) if its in a cradle syncing all day, but unless you're wanting to have programs running & working all day (gps mapping something i guess) i cant see any advantage.
Finally, i'm not sure if you can unmap the power button, you can almost certainly re-map it, but that may not remove the original function (i cant test today, mine's off for repair).

fatmonk said:
The one thing about the X1 (other than the WVGA screen) that I preferred with the X1 was that you could hit the power button to turn the screen off and ActiveSync (and therefore MyMobiler) would stay connected. Nice!
Is there any way to make the Touch Pro do the same?
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I've often wondered the same thing. My phone sits on ActiveSync all day at work with the screen un-necessarily on. There has to be a fix other than a paid application...

Essentially I'd like to replicate the power button function of the SE X1 on the Touch Pro.
The X1 seems to only power off the screen rather than going into standby - ie all apps keep running, bluetooth and wifi stay connected etc.
This means that when the phone is connected using MyMobiler or similar the screen can be off as I am displaying the screen contents on my PC screen.
Rather than having a seperate function to switch the screen off (I'm going to try EdgeWat PocketPC Utils for that), it would be nice if the power button could be mapped to just switch the screen off.
My concern is that if I swap the functionality of the power button (their do seem to be a few apps that allow you to re-assign the power button funtion) I won't just be using it this way when the phone is connected to a PC, I will ALWAYS be just switching the screen off. So, when I am out and about would doing this cause a big increase in battery drain?
-FM

And I would guess this functionality must be possible in software as it seem the Pandora client does it when you are running it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534319&page=7
-FM