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Help..Jasjar going into auto powersave and no response on button press.

Greetings,
I just upgraded to the 2.02.00 ROM last night but still have the occassional lockups. I need to do a soft reboot to get the phone to respond. I believe when it locks up, the radio is still running since I see the blinking Green LED for the GSM. I have to switch off the POWER MANAGEMENT option of "Turn off in x min in not used" for battery power to be able to use the device for calls. The only level of battery saving I am stuck with now is the Backlight auto-off and the beam settings.
Is this something others are having as well or are any applications the culprit?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Regards
BHAMEED
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I-Mate JASJAR
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Windiws Mobile 6 (CROSSBOW)Jwright
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0) AKU 0.0
CE ROM Version : (2.02.00 WWE)
RADIO Version : 1.13.00
ExtROM Version : (2.03.05 WWE) UNLOCKED
Bootloader Version : ver 2.01

Try the power button

All buttons..including the power button...no response.

try holding down the power button
or setting the backlight to atleast one notch.

Urm... uh... ah.... eeee... aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

I can confirm this behavior on my MDA Pro (G3).
All ROM versions the same like Bhameed's on my MDA, ...except bootloader of course.
Anyone else noticed this on 2.02.00?

Hold on, can you guys be more specific with this? Are you absolutely sure it doesn't come back on when you PRESS AND HOLD the power button??? Really sorry if I sound like I'm being pedantic, but just from what you've written it sounds like you don't know how to turn on the phone???

hahahaHAHAHA!!! awesome reply spyder
ok, yeah i was thinking this is an issue of not being able to turn on your phone.
yeah what's going on that was different from before?

There have been only few moments where you think "Surely not"... I hate those moments, I'm just hoping this isn't one of them! If it is a genuine problem it's pretty serious and needs to be addressed, but if not.... well, I don't think I should say much more
Please please please say this is all a big joke. I'm tired, please excuse me.

I confirm this behaviour!
And more!
My Qtek freezes... freezes... and then PUFFF. Dead.
I wait some minutes (30 minutes) and I can turn it on again.
I'll send it to qtek.

Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.

SpyderTracks said:
Mine has a thing sometimes where there will be a pause between pressing the power button and it coming to life... sometimes if I get impatient and press the power button again it will turn it back off before it's come on.
I don't really get it though. Does it freeze while it's still on, or while it's turned off? If it freezes when on, there's plenty of info about how to prevent freezes (mostly 3rd party apps + reg tweaks).
If it really does freeze when off, then please let us know anything more on the issue that you can.
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Mine freezes everywhere. Bootscreen, Pin code menu (when u type your pin). It depends.
then pda doesn't turn on.
Many problems.
Just go to the assistance. :\

1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.

aniel1 said:
1.Sometimes it freezes while its on. For Instance I had program opened and then whenI tried pressing X to close nothing happened. I had to use the red hardware button to close. Wonder why.
2.I too agree while the phone boots and is searching for network, it takes very long, Meanwhile when the pin enter screen come up, unless the network is fully searched one cannot enter the sim pin code, it has few freezes. or at time the phone signal icon disappears on top bar and again you need to reset the phone.
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Again, I don't have this problem for some reason... I get very few freezes at all.
I think we're getting away from the original point of the post though... and normal freezing is well documented in most OS threads with means to prevent it.

Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....

Bhameed said:
Same here...Confirmed. Tried all button combinations to get the display back (short presses and long ones), but then end up having to do a soft-reboot to finally get the phone to work properly....
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And then you don't have other problems? Like freezes?
EDIT: I flash the original rom but the problem still here

I wonder if this could be a memory leak like someone suggested.... I'm sorry guys, I haven't experienced this problem, and I haven't seen any posts about it until this thread, is there any chance you guys with this issue can keep an eye over your memory status over say a couple of days to see if there's a leek and keep us posted? Once we find out what the problem is it should make a solution easier.

I experienced this problem as well using a cooked WM5 ROM on my HERM200 the only fix I found was migrating to another ROM. I'm currently using CUSTEL_Cing_v1.3, the battery life sucks but I love WM6, it is so much faster, I'm still tweaking and trying to resolve some other issues but other than that I am quite happy with it.
If you are experiencing the lockup I would suggest moving to another ROM as an option, that worked for me. Although a clean install usually fixes a lot of problems.

auto - shutdown

Hello
I'm new here and still using the stock rom on my polaris
But lately, i'm having some strange problem: i lock normaly the device and press the power button (once and quickly) to shutdown the light on the screen (but keeping it working), to put it in my pocket. but sometimes, after like 1 or 2 hours, the device completely shuts down. but with no reason at all to do that...
my question is: something not correctly configured? some hardware problem? software problem?
i've serched the definitions menu & sub-menus and found nothing point to wrong configuration. (in menu: start>definitions>System>power>advanced i unchecked all the fields)
I've searched google and here and haven't found anyone with the same problem...
Does anyone here have an idea of what may be causing this?
thanks in advance for your help guys

Happened to me few times.
But I guess this happened to me: I have shut screen and put Polaris in a pocket.
Somehow I pressed Power for a longer period, and phone understood it has to shut down. Accordingly, it wrote question on display with Y/N buttons... and accidentally I pressed Yes.
Mind you, all the time Polaris is in the pocket...
This might not be what's happening to you...

yes, like you, my polaris spends most time in the pocket.
but i never saw the Y/N question on the display.....

HTC Fuze power button wont work.

Well my HTC Fuze works fine for about a year and half. However, idk how or why now my HTC Fuze power button on the top is not working. The only way to make it go to sleep mode if I let my phone turn of by itself in 1 min. Also, the only way to turn it on by slide the phone.
If anyone might know what cause the problem please help me.

Get xda shutdown or a similar app to turn the device off. There are a bunch of software options for putting the device to sleep, turning off the dispay, and shutting it down.

Same here but...
Same here but....
I have xda shutdown already, and when I Shutdown the phone it turn on again by itself.

I'm having the same exact problem! My Fuze has worked great for two years and all of a sudden a few days ago, the power button wont work. And my battery drains like crazy! It'll only last me 4 hours max... Any fixes on this? I've scoured the net and have seen that people have similar problems as this before; however, I haven't seen any fixes on it yet......

Possible solution power button problem Touch pro/Fuze?
I had the same problem on my Touch Pro, but now my power button seems to work again. I thought the problem might have to do something with my sim or my sd-card. The possibility of the sim as root of the problem was mentioned on this forum somewhere. The micro-sd card was just a guess. I had a lot of programs installed directly on the card, so when I did a hard-reset, these were still on there. If the problem would be on the micro-sd card, a hard reset would not help.
What I did was this. I removed the micro-sd card, the battery and the sim. I just pulled them out, since I wasn't able to turn the device off properly.
After that I only put back the battery and the device turned on automatically or I did it with the reset button on the bottom of my tp (I don't remember). Of course it showed the missing sim icon on top of the screen when turned on. The power button still didn't function at this moment.
I was a bit disappointed and inserted the sim, micro-sd card and battery again (I believe in this order). Lately, because of the power button problem, my tp turned on once the battery was inserted but this time it didn't. So I was pissed off that now my device wouldn't even turn on.
But to my surprise I could turn my tp on with te power button. Right now I can use the button just like before, it works fine!
Because I only tried this a few minutes ago I cannot tell you anything about the battery drain some of you and I experienced. And ofcourse I can't tell you if this is this is a permanent fix. I'm afraid to do a reset right now
I don't know why this worked for me and if it will work for you, but you can at least give it a shot right?
In short, what I did was this:
Pull out battery, sim and micro-sd card
Put back in the battery
Device will turn on automatically or turn on device with a reset (it will show the missing sim icon on top of screen)
Wait untill device is turned on properly
Pull out battery
Insert sim, micro-sd card and battery again
Turn on device with power button
If it won't work, maybe you can change the order of removing/inserting battery, sim and micro-sd card.
Good luck!

I was shocked to find a thread here of exactly the same issue I have, on the first page :O Few months back the power button stopped working altogether, so I resorted to using AEButton Plus to map double end call as the suspend power button, but now I have the issue of not being able to turn my phone off as whenever I do, the phone just turns itself back on again! At first I thought it was an issue with the internal mechanisms of the hardware button itself being jammed in place, but after reading this thread I'm starting to have doubts. I also experienced the battery drain problem with the phone rarely lasting 6 hours in standby, although a recent hard-reset and it shows that the battery drainage is around 170mAh with the screen on.
Been trying the above solution but to no avail ;( the phone keeps turning on by itself whenever I insert the battery, no matter the order.

All seems to you all have a HARDWARE problem.
Did you talking/using your PDA on rain/snow?
Maybe it make a some kind of short circuit?
Probobly the best way is carry your PDA to a service...

Yeah I've been pretty sure it's a hardware problem. I've hard-resetted and reflashed different ROMs and yet the problem persists. I don't remember getting the TP wet at all, but who knows. I don't know of any HTC service centers around here (Brisbane, Australia), so I've been looking for a way to fix this myself. No luck yet.

If you have skills to open Touch Pro you can probably do it at home.
Probably you must change flex:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flex-Cable-Part...619562?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cb2d93eaa
This is not my item, I just simply shows how it looks this item.

I had the same problem.
My solution seems a bit unorthodox but it has always worked for me.
Slide your phone open, and flip it so it is facing screen down. You will see there is space between the power button and the phone. Put your mouth near that opening and breathe for 30 seconds to a minute. If the power button isn't working by the next day, repeat the process. The condensation from your breath does..well...something. And presto chango, it works again. The power button issue has happened about 3 times to me and doing this has always fixed it without fail.

Hoygans said:
My solution seems a bit unorthodox but it has always worked for me.
Slide your phone open, and flip it so it is facing screen down. You will see there is space between the power button and the phone. Put your mouth near that opening and breathe for 30 seconds to a minute. If the power button isn't working by the next day, repeat the process. The condensation from your breath does..well...something. And presto chango, it works again. The power button issue has happened about 3 times to me and doing this has always fixed it without fail.
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In exhaust is moisture.
And then people say that the phone had no contact with the water... :/

[Q] Disable reboot on power button long press?

Hi,
I've had my HTC titan for a few weeks now (since UK launch), and I am having a problem with the phone rebooting itself in my pocket, when I sit down. Now I am pretty sure that this is actually a windows phone bug AKA "Feature", but one that is more evident on the Titan due to it's size.
The problem is that when I sit down and lean forward (e.g. to tie my shoes), the power button gets pressed into my hip and is held down..and then after a few seconds the phone reboots. This is even with the locking enabled and pin protection.
Has anyone else come across this issue? Is there a way to prevent the phone rebooting from a long press of the power button? I am seriously regretting switching over to windows mobile again because of this issue..it's a real pain..I don;t mind if there is an app/mod I can install to fix this if it's not possible via standard settings (something like pShutXP for WM6) ..any ideas at all would be *very* welcome!
Thanks,
Spud/Pete

so, let me get this straight:
1) you want to disable the power button? How would you turn off the phone afterwards?
2) to turn off the phone, you need to slide down the lockscreen, and this is very unlikely to happen
3) if "you are tying your shoes" long enough, this will initiate hard shutdown of the device
So no, no way, carry the phone elsewhere.

Yeah, I'm confused by this too - as of Mango, simply holding down the power button won't ever turn off the phone (though it will show half the lock screen, with a prompt to slide it down fully to turn the phone off). Since the Titan comes with Mango... yeah, confused.

No..I am not talking about turning off the phone - thats completely different as you say, you have to slide down the screen and as its capacitive..that's pretty unlikely to happen in my pocket.
I am talking about the phone rebooting - I can replicate it in my hand by holding down the power button and the phone will reboot itself without touching the screen.
I don't want to disable the power button - I want to disable this reboot on long press functionality..as it's a right pain.
Maybe this is peculiar to the Titan rather than a general WinMob feature..but try it on your mango phone - lock the phone, and hold down the power button for around 10 seconds..don't touch the screen. Does it reboot?
Ideally holding down the button should just show the "slide to turn off" screen and nothing else, there is no need for that kind of hard reboot function when you can take the battery out on these devices..
Suggesting that I just don't have my phone in my pocket is not very helpful tbh- where else should I carry it?

No, my HD7 does not reboot if I hold the power button. I almost wish it would, since if the screen locks up I can't power-cycle the phone without removing the battery.
If there's not anyway to carry the phone such that it doesn't hit the power button (not a problem I have with my HD7, but I've never tried carrying a Titan in my pocket), consider getting a case - many of them can make the power button a little "stiffer" and less likely to be pressed accidentally.

I can confirm the problems Spud1 has!
Just like him i own myself a HTC Titan and with WP7.5 you can reboot the phone even when you don't slide down to shut down the pohone.
And that is VERY VERY annoying, even so much that i almost want to switch back for an android phone...
You can replicate this "feature" bij locking the phone when you push the start button on the top and put the phone in rest. (black screen) Then hold down the start button and do nothing. You get the half"Slide down screen to shut down the phone. Still don't do anything, no sliding, just hold the button. After 6/7seconds the phone wil just reboot!
This happens me also and can be replicated at least also on a HTC Trophy (it just shuts down) i believe it can be replicated on the Samsung omnia7.
This is something were i had contact over by chat and phone with HTC. But they will not help or are in no position to sort this out... A brick wall, and i got dissapointed by service.
I dont know how to get in contact with MS, otherwise i would love to do this!
So people, try it out, en then someone to solve this thing, i would rather pull my battery for a restart than this "feature"
PS. sorry for my typo's as a first post..

I've got this too on my trophy !!!!!

I can confirm this problem also on my Mozart.
It is probably one of the 500 innovations in mango.
Sent from my 7 Mozart using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

Innovations i can understand, but the Titan is an 4,7inch phone.
When you have this in the pocket of your jeans, like 85% of the people does, there is problem with this so called innovation.
And believe me, supportdesk at HTC in the Netherlands make me feel stupid about our complaints. The freaking phone restarts after 6 seconds while sitting on your knees or bend over to tie your shoe's...
Is there anybody over here who knows how to deal with this/disable it or has connections to discuss this problem with HTC or MS?

I can confirm this problem on HTC Trophy too(custom rom)
If i hold down Power button ,slider shows up .If i continue to press Power Button and do nothing my phone is power down (not restart)

It's a standard WP7 behavior, why do all of you complain? It's not a problem but standard feature (to be able to reboot phone if touchscreen stop working). Buy another, not so tight, jeans or belt phone holder or protective case.

Who said i wear tide jeans?
There are also people on a Dutch forum that had problems with some protecting cases or just in a bag. And that was with the Trophy.
I finally love the system itself, but this is a 4.7 inch phone where i payed a lot of money for, so i'm allowed to expect something.
Apparently the Systems features and the size make it a combined "problem".
a lot of people get this problem now and in the future when Sales go up!

BAM., there is nothing what you can do. I think it's by hardware design so there are no registry settings to disable power button. But what you expected is absolutely irrelevant to the current WP7 products

That is a straight forward answer! Until now HTC didn't give a proper explanation..
If it is hardware related, this is the only thing that s#cks on wp7/HTC Titan. But i still don't think so, because other ones, like the trophy just shut down.. No restart!
It just feels so dissapointing... Because i really started to like WP7.
Hopefully there will come a MS answer somewere/sometime for this.
thnx anyway!

Omnia 7 has the same behavior (press and hold makes the scroll down menu appear, keep holding and the device reboots) so it's not restricted to HTC devices.
Fortunately, I tie my shoes really fast

lg quantum here, same thing lol

Confirmed on my HTC Surround, phone shuts down. Also on my Blackberry 8350i (although power button is right below the screen and it comes with a holster so not really an issue). Pretty sure that the Evo Shift I used to have for work would do the same thing.
It's a pretty logical function though. If your phone were to lock up for some reason, there's no soft reset button that you can press. This serves the same function. Try holding down the power button of your PC for a few seconds. You'll find that it does the same thing. When you first press it your computer will (probably) start the shutdown process but if you keep holding it then it goes straight to off.

It's logical for a PC, or maybe even for a device where you cannot remove the battery or there is no other way to reboot the phone if it locks up (but who's to say that this "feature" will even work when the phone locks up anyway..)
But for a mobile phone where the power button can easily be pressed accidentally, where a device has to deal with much more than just sitting on a desk..no that is just poor design.
I understand that for many people it won't be an issue - but the fact remains that for lots of us it is (it's good to see that it's not just me!)...and calling it a "feature" doesn't help (thats a long running trick in the software trade..many features are just bugs/poor design disguised as such!).
I suspect that to fix this problem we are going to have to wait for a full unlock for HTC mango devices, so that we can load native apps who can potentially resolve the problem. I don't know enough about WM7 development yet to know if you can get at the Hardware Interrupts or not but if we can do that, then I am sure we can fix it. It's possible there will be some registry/configuration options too buried deep in the system, but without the interop-unlock we're stuck I think..
HTC/MS support sure as hell won't help us out as it's definitely going to be called a feature, no matter how big of an annoyance it is.
This combined with the discovery of how terrible Bing searching is has really put me off Windows Phone 7 though (the terrible search is the worst thing)..I'll be jumping back to iPhone next yearwhen Apple release their redesigned one, can't see a reason not to anymore. Which is a shame as I love the device + UI

Spud1, the long power button press can be handled by hardware schematics, not a firmware or drivers (but actually I don't know exactly, of course). So, your hope is very weak...

True it can - but you could override this kind of behaviour in WM 6.x..and WP7 is still just windows CE with a layer over the top really, so there is a good chance that it's doable.
The thing that makes me think it's possible is that people who have upgraded their devices to Mango from NoDo seem to have the same issue - which leads me to believe that it's partly to do with Mango rather than down to specific devices..but to be sure more people who have those kind of devices (and particularly those without a HTC device) need to read this thread and reply

The "Power" button gone crazy!

Hey guys. Starting yesterday, I began having an issue with the power button of my DS. At first, it didn't want to work at all (didn't respond to presses), then it "drowned" almost into the phone's body (I could barely press it), and then it began doing thing by itself!
It seems that there's something wrong with either button's contacts inside, or maybe some parts of the pressure mechanism broke, because it started to access the power menu by itself, one time after another, which made the usage almos impossible, and then it went crazy with locking the phone (as if you would press the button once), and wouldn't let the DS to sleep, as the button is "being pressed" all the time.
A few hours later it started to work properly as it should (no "going crazy" stuff), but this morning - the problem appeared again.
I really don't what to do, because I don't have anything tight enough to stick behind the button and raise it a little. What should I do?
P.S. I'm not going to disassemble/reassemble it, 'cause I need a phone lol

I don't understand, you seem to describe a physical problem (the button "drowning" in the case, that's not correct behavior !!) but you don't want to disassemble your phone. I can only advise you to take it to a repair center as it will not be solved by software...

Hey i have a Nexus S with the same problem! I was wondering if there is a way to disable it all together (software-wise).?.?

Known issue that can happen to our lovely device, my wife's device currently had the same problem, don't let your battery run out our you may not be able to restart your phone, I'd suggest that you install a sweep to wake kernel and consider a visit to the service Centre, especially if your still covered by warranty
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