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[Q] Changing TF3D landscape shortcuts

First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.

Searchipoos......
Post #9 on first page, bottom ish of second page for a bit extra
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426328&page=2

Thanks Ouza but I saw that post and it's not what I'm looking for. This only deals with changing the two softkeys at the bottom of the landscape screen (which is nice in itself).
I'm wanting to change the 6 big shortcut ''buttons'' above that.
Basically I'd like to make the landscape screen the same idea as the programs tab in TF3D or something like it.
Any ideas... anyone??

I would seriously like to change the big shortcuts as well.I have a dock in my car using the video out. Video out forces Landscape mode. When I hop in my car, I dont want to take notes or check tasks, I want GPS, internet radio, Live Search...
I will dig deep into the registry and let you know what I find.

I want the same thing !!
Video out in the car, so I want to be able to start my Navigation from the landscape-menu.
Jochen

Change Landscape Menu
For the TV out menu that pops on screen after you plug in the video out cable, you can change the shortcuts in the registry.
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
There are four links in there, you can change them to any app installed on your phone. Only problem im having is changing the icons.

I have to bump this thread. There must be a customizer out there for the lanscape shortcuts! I just may go back to HTC Home if there is no way to put shortcuts in landscape!

I doubt this is exactly what you're looking for, but herg62123 is working on adding landscape tf3d to his project. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447056

Not quite,
I have my TP docked in landscape in the car and I would like to open apps like NAV, or Picture Dial, or Kinoma Play in landscape.

jlivefat16 said:
First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
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I don't think there is going to be any easy way to customize those shortcuts. I'm pretty sure the landscape shortcuts are hard-coded in one of the binary manila files.

That sucks!
Well I guess HTC Home will do for now.

You could change the softkeys to point to two of the apps you want to run. Not the perfect solution but it's better than nothing...

I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?

sandiegodude said:
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
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Sounds like a good solution. I haven't used either product but from what I've read on here that should work. good luck!

Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.

jlivefat16 said:
Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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I've been searching around and noticed that indeed themes do change the "landschape shortcuts" but there doesn't seem to be a "general" program that's able to change them. I'm a little confused, because some reactions state it isn't possible to change these "shortcuts", saying they are hardcoded. Does this mean they're rooted so deep in the code that it's very hard to change them? Anyway I keep following this thread and hopefully some come up with a solution... Keep it up!
*Wish I could help*

Start Menu - 4/5 Items Wide

Update 27/11/2009:
I have now made a multi-device version here. It adds landscape support and the text is slightly larger to accommodate devices with smaller screens which I think looks better on the hd2 too.
Old version:
Hi All,
I wasnt very impressed with other 4-wide and 5-wide options, so I just modified the .cpr from my hd2 myself.
This doesnt touch the registry, so wont be much use for non-stock ROMs and other devices unless you edit it yourself:
HKLM\Security\Shell\StartMenu\CustomGridForm = "StartMenuCust"
You will need to soft reset after installing.
Enjoy!

Could you please post some screenshots?

No problem, screenshots added to post 1.

My CustomGridForm is already =StartMenuCust. Should your cabs work on my case (original rom)?
Other question: Did you get your start menu to work on landscape? I've seen some threads about this but I would like to know where to change this on the reg myself. Some apps might have unstable behavior when adding apps to the white list.
Thanks!

If you are already StartMenuCust it should work - I think its only when custom roms start coming out that will change.
I should have mentioned - This is just for portrait. You could change the landscape yourself as it is fairly trivial. Look in \Windows for:
StartMenuCust_480x800.cpr = Portrait
StartMenuCust_800x480.cpr = Landscape
Edit these in notepad (it is just xml). You have to change the row count to 4 and change the relative size of the images, text etc.

Just tried this out .... very effective thanks!!
just a little point, after the install, the black screen offers a Restart button or cancel; on my stock HD2 neither worked, it had frozen. A soft reset got it going again, with a 5-column display

any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>

Editing seems to be simple enough. The problem is that my start menu doesn't rotate automatically. I could use gyrator to make it work but I would prefer to use the whitelist or any other reg edit. I avoid using programs that have to be running in the background or tweak my Leo for me, as much as possible. If I reg edit and it doesn't work, I know what I did and can always change it back.
Any idea on how to do this?
Thanks!

pdgpereira:
This thread seems to cover the reg changes you need to make. I havent tried it though!
vinokirk:
Not a clue, sorry!
Armes:
I dont know why it crashed for you. It asks you to restart itself (presumably because it changed a system file) so its installers fault!

Thanks for the link. I had been there but with no previous success. I finally did it. I isolated the reg tweaks made by gsen cab, I think, and added some others. A soup of reg tweaks... The problem with cabs is that you never know what exactly they do. I'll be doing some reg cleaning in the next hour.
Now I will try out these 4/5 columns in landscape.
Thanks guys!

Cab for QVGA
Can you please release a QVGA version?

vinokirk said:
any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>
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I was also wondering this... Maybe setting HexagonGrid="FALSE" in the .cpr files does the trick? Will try it out and let you know.

vdws: I wouldnt recommend touching the HexagonGrid option. Im not really sure what it is for, but if you set it FALSE your start menu wont work anymore. Well, it will, but after a long pause while it changes back to the default WM6.5 grid. You would then need to change the registry value mentioned in post 1.

plvigo said:
Can you please release a QVGA version?
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I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!

Looks amazing cant believe i spent the last 4 days without this tweak thanks for doing it before i had to as it was my plan!
Just wish that landscape would auto-rotate on it...

isangelous said:
I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!
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Thank you very much for you kind help!

If I want to change it back to original setting, is it just simply uninstall it ?
-----Note------ I had tried it, eveythings back to original by simply uninstall the cab file. Now I am using the 5 items wide, it looks smaller but more tidy than 4 items wide.
Very good and thanks.

Any chance you are going to make some landascape ones?
As i added auto-rotate with bsb-tweaks and now have 5 in portrait and landscape but landscape could much much better...
EDIT: Saw the other thread and if i go for the 5 cab there it will give me 9-wide in landscape, right?

adab: Thats right, uninstalling the .cab should restore the rom default.
chris10230: Yup, I have an updated one here which supports landscape too. For the HD2 WVGA thats 5 portrait and 9 landscape.

Cheers once again!

[REQ] Manilla sliding pages like iPhone

Hy Guys....
just a quick question to all Manilla Chefs out there....
i had the idea to edit the Manilla, when its possible, to get a Sliding Manilla...
i mean if you look at the iPhone, when you drag the Screnns to the side the next Screenwill smoothly slide in...
in Manilla, whipping with the finger on the screen just manilla jumps to the next page...
i think it shouldn't be the Problem to get the pages too slide, the bottom slider did the trick allready... just want this "goodie" on the hole manilla...
and i doenst need to get the greyed out and big tab Icons while sliding...
hope you understand what i mean...
just an idea but someone has some ideas or knowledge to did this trick!

I remember when the Diamond and Manila 1.0 first came out, there was an animation each time you changed tabs in Manila. It was deacticated later since it was way too slow and people wanted their TF3D experience fast and snappy.

its not very handy to have the slide function as per iphone as:
say you want to go to the second last page, the mannilla scroll bar allows to get there in a single controlled swype but if you had the page scroll like the iphone you would have to scroll through each page or scroll backwards (if its possible) to get to that page.
the point im trying to make is the iphone scroll may well look pretty but the single swipe manilla scroll bar is far more efficient! ask yoursel, is it usefull?

I understand that it wouldn't work very well if it were like the iPhone. Personally I would just like to see the animation back like it was when the diamond came out, I know it was slow then but surly out snapdragon should lap it up now?......

i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...

hey correct me if i'm wrong...
the 3d slide effects only happens on diamond when clicking a tab...
when sliding the figer over the tab bar it is like in sense 2.5 ... big curtain with big tab icon will apear??

futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Thats it, I want that back!! Looks so much slicker!!

hey again... i found something...
it wasent a tweak what disabled it...
it was htc himself...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2576833
tnyynt said:
No, fading effects were removed in latest updates to speed up transitions.
It's not due to tweaks, it's due to ROM update.
To get them back install older version of Manila with fade effects.
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but maybe its possible to get the animation back....

I agree, i think it looks crap when you swipe and tap and a tab and there is no animation. If it faded or slide it would be much better. Even the old style was really nice. I think it actually makes it feel more responsive too because its doing a animation while the page loads

futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Looks pretty slick! I'd like that back too.

Have a try with MaxManila 2.5 v 2.7 Main beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551489
This gives you the possibility to swype from page to page (from left to right or vice versa).

what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....

body85 said:
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
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the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.

kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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........ok so u can slide without with from tab to tab... but the thread means a SLIDING ANIMATION...

would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?

kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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ok doesn't really understand what you mean...
i can also swipe without maxmanilla without using the tabslider from page to page!!
just wipe obe the main aera...
what we want to get is an animation between the page slides...
dooing this now just jumps from one page to the other... not nice, and it feels and looks like a bit rough ... not as smooth as iphone did this... and i think the smoothnes factor that many iphones users evertime despite is this sluggish hopping page changing in manilla....
Microsoft did it a way better in the new 6.5 Starmenu... just look great and give a good feel...
also the Tab Slides is "animated" like we wannt... why HTC didn't do that onthe "mainpages" ???

loomx said:
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
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maybe yes...
its a starting point to look into an old cab and looks what manilla files did there...
but i'm far away from knowing the manilla depths that we need to implement them...
maybe one of the manilla gurus out there do the trick for us poor people

it would be so nice... if we can slide to the half...hold...and back... like in Iphone Today or Mobile Shell....

Launcher with Screen Indicator

Update:
I have put one for OS 2.1 version. this one is with scrollbar, no customized screens yet. 800k looks very small.
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hi all friends,
I have mod the original launcher little bit, to add a screen indicator, the source code version is 1.6.
how to install :
Code:
adb remount
adb push Launcher.apk /system/app/Launcher.apk
Hope you like it.

updated, change the indicator picture little bit.
if you want to change it, the images are under res\drawable-port and res\drawable-land
I put a 2.1 version in the attachment. with scrollbar instead of image .
thanks.

Looks cool

This is pretty cool, I have often wished Android came with this functionality by default.
I made some screenshots in case people want to see without pushing the apk. They're JPG so obviously it looks a little better on the phone.
Keep in mind this Launcher has 3 screens, so if you're coming from a 5-screen Launcher you'll have to re-organise your icons beforehand.

Super Jamie said:
This is pretty cool, I have often wished Android came with this functionality by default.
I made some screenshots in case people want to see without pushing the apk. They're JPG so obviously it looks a little better on the phone.
Keep in mind this Launcher has 3 screens, so if you're coming from a 5-screen Launcher you'll have to re-organise your icons beforehand.
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Yeah, reminds me the bottom lines on Home++, its great.

I wonder if it's possible to change either anderweb's or this one to be similar to the scroll bar on sense roms or espresso.

Ace42 said:
I wonder if it's possible to change either anderweb's or this one to be similar to the scroll bar on sense roms or espresso.
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Scrolbars? never used a sense rom, any pic or vid?

AnderWeb said:
Scrolbars? never used a sense rom, any pic or vid?
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at the bottom of the phone screen theres a white scroll bar
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=jsNvqArBe-A&feature=related

I make the mod by several line of code, if make the scrollbar, I think need more coding. let me think if it's possible.

qingcai said:
I make the mod by several line of code, if make the scrollbar, I think need more coding. let me think if it's possible.
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Oh it would be really cool if you could make something similar like the sense bar.

Haha this is clever, good job!

Ace42 said:
Oh it would be really cool if you could make something similar like the sense bar.
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when i first saw AnderWeb's launcher, that's the first thing that i tried to do, but really haven't figured out something yet. The closest I came was the sense ui in my adw themed launcher2 thread. i do agree. Getting this will be awesome! Seems like we are slowly but surely gettin' donut to run like sense/2.0 without having to ever switch roms. All thanks to the great devs we have here on xda. Keep up the good work!

looks lots of people like sense ui.

Afaik, the sense scrolling thing is pretty much the same as nexus scrolling dots with a minor annoyance:
-if you do it graphically identical (following the circular pattern on the drawer 5ab) you are condemned to a fixed number of screens by design.
-if you want customizable screen number, it can be done the same way as Home++ does, with a bottom stright line (same way as the mod on this thread)
so users need to make the choice

It shouldn't be too hard to implement the sense bar, the rogers magic on cupcake has it. i myself hate the sense iu

AnderWeb said:
Afaik, the sense scrolling thing is pretty much the same as nexus scrolling dots with a minor annoyance:
-if you do it graphically identical (following the circular pattern on the drawer 5ab) you are condemned to a fixed number of screens by design.
-if you want customizable screen number, it can be done the same way as Home++ does, with a bottom stright line (same way as the mod on this thread)
so users need to make the choice
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So it would be possible to have it look similar but the bar wouldn't move like in sense?

good idea..but don't work on my super d 1.10.2 :-(
Why?
tnx

AnderWeb said:
Afaik, the sense scrolling thing is pretty much the same as nexus scrolling dots with a minor annoyance:
-if you do it graphically identical (following the circular pattern on the drawer 5ab) you are condemned to a fixed number of screens by design.
-if you want customizable screen number, it can be done the same way as Home++ does, with a bottom stright line (same way as the mod on this thread)
so users need to make the choice
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I wouldn't mind sticking with a set number of homescreens. I myself have become accustomed to using just five homescreens and that alone. I think 5 is plenty, but I'm just one guy and other people have different desires and needs. I wouldn't mind seeing it put into action. I am very much a big fan of sense ui, if you haven't already noticed. lol

borjus86 said:
good idea..but don't work on my super d 1.10.2 :-(
Why?
tnx
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I would try it on super d, and post feed back.

Summarize all friends' comment,
1, scroll bar would be better.
2, customized number of screen would be better.

(REQ) Carousel Mod for Sense 2.5 (SPB Shell-Like) but not SPB

Does anyone know if this is possible or available. Would be so nice.
To have a carousel function (similar to the SBP Shell panels carousel) that can either replace the sense slider or work as a stand alone app.

That would definitely be cool, but I am pretty sure there is nothing like that at the moment.

I agree, would be nice!
But not going to happen...

snowblind2142 said:
I agree, would be nice!
But not going to happen...
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You never know...

it would be better if you can Flick the home screen up and down endlessly like a kinda cirkel,
don't know if you'll understand my idea but like this,
if you Flick up you can get to the manila player, further up you'll get to albums further up you get a blank page it would be cool of you can put widgets over there and you flick again you get cookies home tab and another flick to get back at manila home screen.
hope ya'll understand my idea
sorry for my english

Finezt said:
it would be better if you can Flick the home screen up and down endlessly like a kinda cirkel,
don't know if you'll understand my idea but like this,
if you Flick up you can get to the manila player, further up you'll get to albums further up you get a blank page it would be cool of you can put widgets over there and you flick again you get cookies home tab and another flick to get back at manila home screen.
hope ya'll understand my idea
sorry for my english
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I sort of get what u mean. That would be sort of similar to the current sense slider but with 2 differences; Upwards/downwards scrolling instead of side to side. And different animation style for the transition of each page (flip, fold, flick etc). Nice idea...bu I would prefer the carousel better.
Had a look around the SPB shell threads and got the impression that there may be legal / patent related stuff that means the "carousel" is only for "spb mobile shell". So currently using both on my HD2 and a neat toggle switch app to change between Sense & SPB. ALthough SPB is nice (lots of eye candy) I prefer Sense (smoothness & speed) but would love that carousel or something similar.
I know nothing about apps & programming (should have paid more attention in IT classes) so just hoping someone here latches onto the idea.

pepesz said:
You never know...
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Do I see some hope.

would like to have a helicopter view like its on desire or legend...
DN41

pepesz said:
You never know...
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Really hope so but from what i've seen and read I don't think its possible..