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Just crappy ugly "NEW" comm manager

Hi there,
can anyone tell me how to get rid of this UGLY "NEW" comm manager style? Anyone like it? Iam really scared of the graphics which can some people cook into their roms and new version of OCTAVOI has this version of commman too, so its the hell on earth for me! like someone steal my candy!
Is there a ROM based on new build which has not USELESS things cooked into? I just want new build with original Microsoft/HTC/Touch/Cube graphics!
I dont know if this comm man is originally styled by HTC if its true so its first styled component/application i dont really like and it sucks my blood...
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i second that but then that would only mean that we would have to help the chefs on this site. they offer us cooked roms with many customization. im sure they dont have time for graphics so lets get sometalented members to help out make the future roms look sexy. perhaps we can have a graphics area for all the phones since there many that would be comon.

Look for the 9 button or 10 Button Kaiser CommManager. Thats what I use in XM6 and is what you are asking for. I agree, I don't care for the other commManager's looks (although, the "Nuclear Powerplant one" you point out isn't too bad but I still like the other).
I'll look to see if I have a cab, but I have the packages (and they've been posted here. I know theloon's kitchen for the 318 rom has the Kaiser CommManager package and that can be used on any rom you cook (its not 318 specific).
I am curious why you want it on a "newer" rom build? Personally I've found the 318 rom (even though its "older") much more stable than the "newer" (higher number) builds which are all ports from other devices. I'd be curious what is in the newer stuff that you think is better (not a trick question, just wondering what I'm missing or what I can look to improve in a 318 build).

Agree! I'm using already two weeks mfrazzz's (thank you!) XM6 R3 (OS 5.2.318 Build 15342.4.0.01). No issues! Everything looks good and works great and fast! Even screen calibration bug is gone. C'mon flash this ROM and be happy, there's actually nothing better in versions with higher numbers!

faramisimo said:
i second that but then that would only mean that we would have to help the chefs on this site. they offer us cooked roms with many customization. im sure they dont have time for graphics so lets get sometalented members to help out make the future roms look sexy. perhaps we can have a graphics area for all the phones since there many that would be comon.
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100% agree ... i am able to do some things, but as i looked around there are also the others who wants... the boot-ups logos drafts for TNT was great... If anyone wants to help with some design things, just contact me
mfrazzz said:
Look for the 9 button or 10 Button Kaiser CommManager. Thats what I use in XM6 and is what you are asking for.
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Be sure that i will look for it..
mfrazzz said:
I agree, I don't care for the other commManager's looks (although, the "Nuclear Powerplant one" you point out isn't too bad but I still like the other).
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The thing that i really hate about it is this red/greed circles. It is absolutelly ugly in my eyes and this have not to be in such pretty graphics. All is in one style done with perfection and this is what breaking all. Also the ON/OFF text isnt great there.
mfrazzz said:
I'll look to see if I have a cab, but I have the packages (and they've been posted here. I know theloon's kitchen for the 318 rom has the Kaiser CommManager package and that can be used on any rom you cook (its not 318 specific).
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Sure? I will look for it. Thank You
mfrazzz said:
I am curious why you want it on a "newer" rom build? Personally I've found the 318 rom (even though its "older") much more stable than the "newer" (higher number) builds which are all ports from other devices. I'd be curious what is in the newer stuff that you think is better (not a trick question, just wondering what I'm missing or what I can look to improve in a 318 build).
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Its nothing special with roms i think. Its something in me. Specific HIGHER NUMBER SYNDROM ;-) ... but you all are true. I missed reading what are the advantages and just flash, but what was the best rom ever? For me it was faria's AIRAF Stable, great, but missing OneNote (i though that PS's Office2007 can install it to WM device). So the answer is: The bug in me
Vitalys said:
Agree! I'm using already two weeks mfrazzz's (thank you!) XM6 R3 (OS 5.2.318 Build 15342.4.0.01). No issues! Everything looks good and works great and fast! Even screen calibration bug is gone. C'mon flash this ROM and be happy, there's actually nothing better in versions with higher numbers!
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Hey man, just downloading it, im currious if it will be okay for me. I just want the HomeScreen plugin (this big clock are great and well styled so it fits my needs) and also the Touch/Cube graphics is perfect, but i dont know if its available in .318 versions.
GUYS THANKS FOR REPLIES

I actually quite like the look (the so called Nuclear Power Plant) and was wondering if anyone had a cab for it. To me it is simple and clean. I'd love to have it over the one I have now which is the 10 button.

akashastrega said:
I actually quite like the look (the so called Nuclear Power Plant) and was wondering if anyone had a cab for it. To me it is simple and clean. I'd love to have it over the one I have now which is the 10 button.
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Go over to the Kaiser forum and there is a sticky for a list of cabs. Dutty has a site where you can download cabs, and I believe this one is there. If not, ask in that thread and someone will probably have it for you.

can anyone tell me how to get rid of this UGLY "NEW" comm manager style?
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download unsigner, use it, do reshack operation(change resources), sign commgr.exe, cook rom/overwrite/shadow file. be happy.

mfrazzz said:
Go over to the Kaiser forum and there is a sticky for a list of cabs. Dutty has a site where you can download cabs, and I believe this one is there. If not, ask in that thread and someone will probably have it for you.
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Found it, unfortunately it won"t play nice with my Wizard. Thank you for the linky anyway.

Taste is a personal thing...

All ROMS the same

I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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So change the home screen and change the theme. Better yet, you could cook a rom yourself if you're unhappy instead of starting another pointless thread.

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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Then change your theme and home screen, my friend!

Well while the roms may seem similar, some are much faster and more stable than others.
As for your other point, the beauty of windows mobile is that you can do whatever you please with it by simply installing cabs. Don't like HTC Home? Remove it and replace it. Sick of the HTC black theme? Change it. By simply searching on google, you can find thousands of windows mobile themes.
If you want your phone to be really unique and interesting, you can't count on different roms. The rom chefs make a good base rom for you, it is up to you to personalize it.

You could always try any of these things to help sproose your phone up.
http://www.oakridgehobbies.com/plastic_models/testors_model_paints.html
or
http://www.ccartwright.com/
Much better then changing your background. You can change the FOREGROUND

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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If all roms are the same, why have you bothered flashing new ones? Obviously your original shipped rom is as good as those offered here because "... they are all basically the same" - so why not flash back to the original and stop creating pointless threads.
The reason you (and we) flash new roms is because of the subtle differences - some faster, some more stable, some better looking without tweaks, maybe also because only ONE component is better etc etc.
As for no one making a rom that is "different or interesting" - I find them all different AND interesting. I'm also trying to learn how to cook my own by extracting or adding the components that I like best - if I come up with Rom Utopia I'll post it here - but I won't find this Utopia until I try all the other roms and extract the best bits.
In summary - flash if you want to or don't bother if they are all the same anyway, but stop posting useless junk, and stop criticising the work of others until you are in a position to be their peer.

This thread so doesn't belong in this forum.
-McMex

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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Paulmezza, you have the beginnings of a valid point here, but you haven't finished it. What would you like to see in a ROM that would make it stand out from the crowd? There are some great programs and customisations out there, why not make a list of what you'd like to see in a ROM, and then post it. As other people have pointed out, we're only limited by the core Windows Mobile OS itself, everything else on the phone can be customized and tweaked. Post what you'd like to see and you might inspire a budding chef to build some of your ideas in - or you can take the plunge and cook it yourself!

There are some many applications out there that you can use to mod your phone to make it special. Go check out handango.com or somewhere else to find what your looking for. or Google UI's for your phone. The only things making your device generic is you.

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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i agree with u it would be good if cooks did have major changes between their roms, i wanted to try and cook my own a t-mobile themed wm 6.1 rom but too complicated and i have no time cose busy with school since its the final year. No need to attack this guy for this its just his and my opinion, some days im sitting here looking at the detail of the roms see if there is anything to attract me to a certain rom end up basicly throwing a dart of a board with their names pinned onto it.

Mods please close this pointless thread......

its not all that point less whats wrong with a little criticism? i mean i like the work of the cooks im not saying i hate to roms juts variety would be good as well.

Infuruno said:
i agree with u it would be good if cooks did have major changes between their roms, i wanted to try and cook my own a t-mobile themed wm 6.1 rom but too complicated and i have no time cose busy with school since its the final year. No need to attack this guy for this its just his and my opinion, some days im sitting here looking at the detail of the roms see if there is anything to attract me to a certain rom end up basicly throwing a dart of a board with their names pinned onto it.
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What he stated in his post was that quote:
"Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen"
So the problem for him is the fact that they all look the same, not that there are subtle differences between them. So like others have already said, if someone does not like the look of a Rom, go ahead & change the appearance! Take the time to learn how to use RLToday, Ultimate Launcher, WAD and the whole slew of other Today Plugins and Customization apps that are out there. Its not really the chefs job to supply the eye candy, thats where individual taste comes in. Their main goal is cooking up a fast stable rom.

Part of the problem lies with the end user...
Before selecting a Rom do you really know what you want out of your device?
I for one decided that as Applications are bound to change and what I want to do with my device is equally varied I would be better off the what's known as a "Clean" Rom.
So when I cook Roms that is what I make. I remove everything except the Core OS. then I add in registry settings that I prefer such as cache settings, at&t keyboard layout, etc.
Then I take all of the extracted applicatons and build cab files for them (unless I find someone else has already done a good job of this) and I collect those cab files into one place to share with everyone.
So with my XDA Live Rom what I've ended-up with is exactly the applications I choose to use with the max amount of free storage space. The effect is that I don't put any cache files/e-mail attachements on my storage card so I can safely use it when connected to my PC(s) via Card Export II.
Like anything in this universe, cooked roms are only what you make of them...

kyphur said:
Part of the problem lies with the end user...
Before selecting a Rom do you really know what you want out of your device?
I for one decided that as Applications are bound to change and what I want to do with my device is equally varied I would be better off the what's known as a "Clean" Rom.
So when I cook Roms that is what I make. I remove everything except the Core OS. then I add in registry settings that I prefer such as cache settings, at&t keyboard layout, etc.
Then I take all of the extracted applicatons and build cab files for them (unless I find someone else has already done a good job of this) and I collect those cab files into one place to share with everyone.
So with my XDA Live Rom what I've ended-up with is exactly the applications I choose to use with the max amount of free storage space. The effect is that I don't put any cache files/e-mail attachements on my storage card so I can safely use it when connected to my PC(s) ia Card Export II.
Like anything in this universe, cooked roms are only what you make of them...
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I would like a fast clean rom with wm 6.1 (sinces its faster imo) i don't have a clue about registry stuff so one with all the necessary tweaks, your roms is at&t so thats why i don't use it since i have an mda vario III and havn't noticed a 6.1 one

paulmezza said:
I cant help but notice, after trying 4 or 5 different ROMs that are on here, they are all basically the same, just with a few different programs missing from some and included in others. Has no one made a ROM that is different or interesting - i'm sick of looking at the HTC Black theme with the HTC Home screen
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU PAULMEZZA. This is BS and I'm sick of it too.
Now please excuse me as I watch 700 channels of HD TV with my mind scanning remote control and automatic potatoe chip feeder...

a lot of cooks want to accomodate for the majority out there. Some cooks made a couple themes for theres and they put in a lot of hard work changing every bit of icon on the rom. If you are looking for something totally different, try some third party software to change up your desktop. There is this you can look at.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Advance+Desktop

This just gets better all the time....
Ignore at will...
paulmezza: you get a bit of slamming for not being respectful of the hard work people put in. "sick of", geez! Be nice and appreciate free stuff.
Confused-Stu: Nice, respectful, I agree.
TheOccult: not-so-respectful, but funny.
Several others: Dang, the stompfest just keeps going on when one doesn't agree. Especially when a precious thread is started, or an already answered question is asked.
How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?

tomsenna said:
How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?
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I just got out of timeout from the wife for spending too much time here... =)

tomsenna said:
Ignore at will...
paulmezza: you get a bit of slamming for not being respectful of the hard work people put in. "sick of", geez! Be nice and appreciate free stuff.
Confused-Stu: Nice, respectful, I agree.
TheOccult: not-so-respectful, but funny.
Several others: Dang, the stompfest just keeps going on when one doesn't agree. Especially when a precious thread is started, or an already answered question is asked.
How about a little courtesy, restraint and patience. This is becoming almost comical. What's next timeouts?
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"almost comical"?! Man, I tried my best to MAKE it comical.

Future New HTC Raphael User

Hi!
I'm looking to get a Touch Pro as soon as my Orange contract is up (couple of weeks) - I see a lot of people saying that as soon as they got it, once they put in a decent ROM it all worked great.. question then is - I see lots of roms, but I can't see any "numpty" description of what each offers and why i'd want to use it?
Am I missing something really obvious ?
Thanks!
Matt.

UKTrainSim said:
Am I missing something really obvious ?
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Yes I think you do. Raphael has plenty of memory and stock rom is good enough with TF3D (which most of us agree that is very good and finger friendly). So needed changes are only for tweeking TF3D or remove some "un-usefull" applications.
There is no competitive phone out there to get something from.
With my Artemis I flashed meschle 's rom to have goodies from Touch, Iphone etc. With Raphael there is no need for this. I 'm satisfied with it "out of the box".
Maybe later when something new shows up.
Maybe Xperia UI. Are you listening xda experts?
My opinion.

what is a rom and why might i need a new one?

hey,
of course i know what a rom is. somehow. but why would i need a new one?
[i found everything what i was asking myself by using the forum-search.
but no answer to this essential question. shouldn´t that be somewhere
in the wiki?]
thx for beeing noob-friendly
kws

Its just user customization, you don't really need one. alot of people just prefer them.

joel2009 said:
..just prefer them.
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but why? whats better/different? there must be a reason why so many
people spend their time creating them.
i found so much software (and dont even have a ppc yet) to get the best
out of wm. thats really amazing. so what can a custom rom do, what a
third-party software couldn´t?
the one thing i could imagine right now: i like the possibility to change the
look of my device with things like "spb mobile shell". but i would rather like
to change the wm-gui itself. take away what i dont need, instead of adding
more stuff to the os (thats why i still use winXP with the old 2000-shell).
in order not to waste precious cpu- and ram-power to things i dont need/want.
thx for the answer.
hf
kws

to get the latest and the best
HTC takes so much of time releasing the official updates
so if you want the latest you have to depend on custom ROMs
and you can even get stuff which is not meant for your phone
like touch flo,manila interface etc

sheennick123456 said:
and you can even get stuff which is not meant for your phone
like touch flo,manila interface etc
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i thought touch flo is ment for my phone (it comes with it). and i thought
manila is just like a "codename" for touchflo!?
anyway... so if there is a bug or something like that and htc takes month
to release updates, the xda-devs come and create their own roms.. or if
someone would find out that the hd actually has everything hardware-
related whats needed for tv-out, he could make a rom that supports that?
and a rom is always specific to one model of a device?!? you cant use a
kayser*-rom for eg a diamond, can you?
where can i find a list of all availiable rom´s (especially for blackstone and
raphael).
thank you!!
kws
(* soze!

kweso said:
but why? whats better/different? there must be a reason why so many
people spend their time creating them.
i found so much software (and dont even have a ppc yet) to get the best
out of wm. thats really amazing. so what can a custom rom do, what a
third-party software couldn´t?
the one thing i could imagine right now: i like the possibility to change the
look of my device with things like "spb mobile shell". but i would rather like
to change the wm-gui itself. take away what i dont need, instead of adding
more stuff to the os (thats why i still use winXP with the old 2000-shell).
in order not to waste precious cpu- and ram-power to things i dont need/want.
thx for the answer.
hf
kws
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Well for example by removing things from a rom you don't use, you can make your phone faster or have more memory.
Sometimes program such as manilla run better or faster when they are built into a rom.
Flashing a new rom means that if you hard reset, you will reset back to the rom you flash.
You can put new program and or drivers stripped from another phone (omnia, opal, ect) (this would be useful beacuse they may be newer and more improved)
Its all a matter of opinion on what you want to do with your phone, if you need help with something you are trying to get you need to giver us an example so that we can give you an example of pluses and draw backs. (there are alot of things it does and its hard to just list them)

well, thank u very much. i think i get it now. somehow like n-lite for desktop windows. but still it would be nice to have a list in the wiki with all roms, their compatibilites and main features...
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...what you want to do with your phone
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do you know the tricorders from star trek?
muchas gracias, again..
cu

Ya and i would like a microwave to cook food with built into mine .......

well...
actually...
if you could manage to modify the frequency of the radio...
hmm...

or something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W53W_zOwG4k

but back to topic:
is there an overview over the existing roms? seaching this
forum for "rom" is not quite effective.
or is there a "what is possible with a custom rom"?
sorry if this questions sound stupid to you. but so i am
thx gn8
kws

It may makes xda more interesting～

well... you would be a great salesman!
could you specify this?
thx

hd2 texas hold'em game

hello is there a texas hold'em game for online for the hd2 so i can play vs other people. like the app live holdem poker on the android os. i now boot the android os desire but it dont work very smooth so thats the reason why i want it on the wm 6.5
Greatz, Iefen

iefen said:
hello is there a texas hold'em game for online for the hd2 so i can play vs other people. like the app live holdem poker on the android os. i now boot the android os desire but it dont work very smooth so thats the reason why i want it on the wm 6.5
Greatz, Iefen
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I use live hold'em poker with android in my hd2 without any lag or issues.
Iam very surprise you have an HD2 and want to revert back to wm6.5, which by the way is the worst OS for the hd2.
Android has come a long way in development with HD2.

PENKO956 said:
Iam very surprise you have an HD2 and want to revert back to wm6.5, which by the way is the worst OS for the hd2.
Android has come a long way in development with HD2.
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Thats realy the unqualified statement I ever read. They are two different OS whereby everyone has its advantages and also disadvantages. For games and apps clearly Android is the better one. But for modding and in business the advantage is clear at WM.

yeah which one do u use? i mean wich android os.
and yeah i like the basic wm 6.5 and i seriously HATE the energy rom

Bonito77 said:
Thats realy the unqualified statement I ever read. They are two different OS whereby everyone has its advantages and also disadvantages. For games and apps clearly Android is the better one. But for modding and in business the advantage is clear at WM.
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any business you want to do with winrom you can do better with Android.
yes they do have advantages and disadvantages but theirs a reason why mostly all of hd2 owners are switching to android. windows is way behind android in apps and development. Numbers don't lie. but hey by all means go ahead and stay with your win6.5...
"unqualified statement" lol you should read more....

yeah i have the desire rom on my phone but it crashes A LOT i dont like it anymore so i dont use android much.
but if u could say how i can use my phone always with android i really like that

iefen said:
yeah i have the desire rom on my phone but it crashes A LOT i dont like it anymore so i dont use android much.
but if u could say how i can use my phone always with android i really like that
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the question is do you still want winrom?
if yes then you need to go the SD route. <- keeps windows
If no then you need to go NAND route. <- no more windows
im using HD2one NAND with no issues at all
just download the build package and follow directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898067

what sd and nand?
and i only want no wm if i getting much better **** for back
and is it possible to set it back to winmo if i dont like it?
thnx

okay i m over i m gnna use nand.
what do i need 2 do only use that link u gave me else nothing?

sry for 3trd post but i m almost sure i m gonna use nand but i got 3 questions
1. can i do EVERYTHING that i can do now with my winmo phone. so calling making pictures and that ****
2. can i switch back to winmo 6.5 if i dont like it?
3. and what is the best option to install nand? with formated sd card. without sd card. with formated phone?
thnx

PENKO956 said:
any business you want to do with winrom you can do better with Android.
yes they do have advantages and disadvantages but theirs a reason why mostly all of hd2 owners are switching to android. windows is way behind android in apps and development. Numbers don't lie. but hey by all means go ahead and stay with your win6.5...
"unqualified statement" lol you should read more....
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Be cool bro, was no attack to you only my opinion and be sure I've read enough about android. So I think e.g. my clients are not realy pleased to hear that I give google all my contact data only why I install any app.
I'll never say it didn't run smooth or anything else.
And hey, we can be glad that all of us have different flavors, or not?
Nice evening,
Grtz B.

iefen said:
sry for 3trd post but i m almost sure i m gonna use nand but i got 3 questions
1. can i do EVERYTHING that i can do now with my winmo phone. so calling making pictures and that ****
2. can i switch back to winmo 6.5 if i dont like it?
3. and what is the best option to install nand? with formated sd card. without sd card. with formated phone?
thnx
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Sorry but can't give you the answer for all of your question (didn't use android)but searched a lit bit by here and found for installation things two good threads. I don't know you found them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Hope I can help a lit.

Bonito77 said:
And hey, we can be glad that all of us have different flavors, or not?
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true that

actually I think (in my opinion) wm is better than android
I almost tried all android builds (nand & sd),android is really smooth,eye candy,easy to use os ,but it has some disadvantages that made me downgrade to wm:
1.battery life sucks,android and especially froyo can dry the battery juice in less than 12 hours and somtimes less,and battery life is one of the most important thing
in any phone,android power management still needs so many improvements
2.I don't know if I'm the only one who noticed that, but android doesn't really
have a good task manager,e.g:if I open the internet browser it won't exit until I do a soft reset,and there's several apps that don't exit,so by this way we use more ram which leads us to more battery draining
but I really like android and it's an amazing OS and I think every hd2 owner should try android,it's really cool and may keep it
we have different tastes