Dual GSM CDMA Winmobile Phones? - General Questions and Answers

The only ones I know of for sure that are available for purchase is the Samsung Saga and HTC Ozone.
Are there any other HTC (or non HTC) windows mobile phones that offer both CDMA and GSM radios in the same phone (as Verizon calls them, "world edition" phones).
Thanks.

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HTC US version in Europe ?

Hi,
I plan a business trip at the end of this month in the US. Ive currently an HTC P3600 but i would like to buy an HTC Touch. (I prefer the iphone but it lacks business application like Exchange synchronisation).
As i'm in the US, i would like to take advantages of the $/Euro convertion and get direct 40% off my phone.
Question: US Mobile Network and European Mobile Network are not compatible. The US version of the HTC touch is capable of both mode ?
Do you recommend the HTC TOuch or any other ?
Thanks
Ced
as long as you dont get a cdma version
gsm 900/1800/1900 phones in europe
Rudegar said:
as long as you dont get a cdma version
gsm 900/1800/1900 phones in europe
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What he said, get a GSM phone. Even if it is locked to a carrier you can get it unlocked.

HTC US 3G compatible devices

HELP!
I am at my wits end trying to find a US 3G compatible HTC device. I really like the Blackstone, but it seems that it won't do 850/1900 HSDPA frequencies. Does anyone know which HTC devices are compatible with AT&T networks?
I even wrote HTC about the Blackstone. They told me it is compatible on the 850 band, but that's not what the specifications say. I'm so confused. I am an electrical engineer and understand all the technologies, I just don't know which devices are "world" devices. Does anyone out there know?
Am I sentenced to the world of edge with HTC devices because of AT&T network frequencies?
The Touch HD is really cool phone and would love to have it if it does 3G on AT&T.
Thanks,
The Kaiser was one of HTC's last phones to have good tri-band UTMS support; ever since then, it's taken the strategy of releasing N. American and international versions of its phones that have different 3G radios (850/1900 and 900/2100 respectively, but you know that already. ). Once exception is the Fuze, since AT&T wanted it to have 3G roaming, so it has the 2100 band as well as the American ones.
You can find a N. American version of most HTC phones besides the Blackstone, unfortunately. I don't know why, HTC just made a decision that it wouldn't be released over here. Might be because they don't want it to compete with the upcoming Touch Diamond 2, which has a similar set of features.
this new Telstra HD works for usa 3G 850...see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487010&highlight=telstra

Is htc mad at At&t?

I am only asking cause i don't see any of the new phones hitting at&t as in not UMTS 850 or UMTS 1900. look on pdadb.net it will list all of the new phones coming out not one from htc supports either one of those bands.... am i going to have to switch over to a steve blow jobs phone. Please someone tell me something i don't know.
They never support it on international versions. They always have a separate US version (when they don't skip the US market entirely, like the Touch HD) with those bands supported.
The Touch Pro 2 and Touch Diamond 2 are coming out in the US, and the TP2 is already confirmed as being on T-Mobile, so let's hope it gets announced for AT&T as well, or at least shows up on T-Mobile unlocked.
toiletduk said:
They never support it on international versions. They always have a separate US version (when they don't skip the US market entirely, like the Touch HD) with those bands supported.
The Touch Pro 2 and Touch Diamond 2 are coming out in the US, and the TP2 is already confirmed as being on T-Mobile, so let's hope it gets announced for AT&T as well, or at least shows up on T-Mobile unlocked.
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they supported it on the htc x7500 and the 8125, 8525, 8925, fuze but no more. i think at&t got a big head with the Iphone and doesn't want to deal with htc so htc said fu*k at&t and thus no longer support UMTS850, UMTS1900
Well I'm looking forward to HTC sending some ppc's to T-Mobile, since it's been a very very long 3G wait!
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Well I'm looking forward to HTC sending some ppc's to T-Mobile, since it's been a very very long 3G wait!
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yes but thats t-mobiles fault for taking sooooooo long to launch there 3g
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they supported it on the htc x7500 and the 8125, 8525, 8925, fuze but no more. i think at&t got a big head with the Iphone and doesn't want to deal with htc so htc said fu*k at&t and thus no longer support UMTS850, UMTS1900
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They still support it, as I said. It's just a matter of "international version" vs "US version."
It's likely to protect T-Mobile, AT&T, and whichever Canadian providers use GSM, so less people will import the unbranded international version before they have a chance to release their branded versions.
Since carrier locking can easily be circumvented legally, the only real way to block imports is to not support 3g frequencies in the US. Most people aren't willing to pay $800 for a phone that doesn't support 3g in a lot of places (like the Xperia X1i, which only connects in 3g in about 2/3 of AT&T's coverage area and none of T-Mobile's), or no places (like current HTC phones, which are 2100MHz only).

HTC HD2 Unlocked?

My service provider is Alltel, and yes, Alltel is still available in my area, for some reason. They have the best coverage, by far, in the area.
They also have the worst phones. Is there any way that I can get an unlocked HTC HD2 and use it for Alltel? I figured this might work, since Alltel carries some of the HTC Windows Smartphones. The phones they have are horrible though, with the nicest smartphone being the HTC Touch Pro. They don't even have the Touch Pro2...
All comments are appreciated.
Hello and welcome to xda-developers
Alltel is a CDMA/EV-DO carrier, which means you can use only CDMA phones, which are very different from their GSM counterparts. The HD2 is a GSM phone and it is impossible to use it on a CDMA network.
I don't know if you can get a CDMA phone from another CDMA carrier (such as Verizon or Sprint) and use it on alltel network, as I am not that familiar with CDMA technology.

[Q] HTC TP2 CDMA in US Unlocked Internationally?

Hi guys, I bought a Sprint Touch Pro 2 that was being used on the CDMA network, but after moving to Ireland, I realized the phone was automatically unlocked hence any sim works on it.
I have used the Rhodium W Hard-SPL in the CDMA section for it, but am left wondering. Does my TP2 still fall under CDMA or is it now under GSM?
Coz i have tried loading some ROMS under the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development and it failed and returned an ERROR.
So question is, is it still CDMA and can I upgrade to Android ROM?
Thanks.
1) Yes, the default Sprint radio is unlocked for the Euro GSM bands (900/1800 GSM and 2100 WCDMA) by default. No need to pay for a SIM unlock unless you want to swap radios ROMs.
2) NO, you CANNOT use GSM ROMs. The device can only use the custom "CDMA" ROMs. The CDMA TP2 hardware is a hybrid model, whereas the "GSM" versions are GSM only. The ROMs are incompatible.
DO NOT FLASH A GSM ROM TO YOUR SPRINT TP2 FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.
As far as Android, yes, you can safely load Android via Haret.
Thanks Gamescan for that prompt and to the point reply. Much appreciated.
Just another question if you might know, so which would you say is has better hardware? If the CDMA is Hybrid and the GSM is GSM only, am I to take it that the CDMA is better as it's (for lack of a better word) more advanced, or is the GSM better and why?
Thanks, thinking of trying Android, but, first read alot and see if the advantages outweigh running WM on the TP2.
Same hardware, different radios.
If you're in Europe, it doesn't really matter as every TP2 model supports GSM 900/1800 and WCDMA 2100, which are the Euro GSM and 3G frequencies.
Model choice only matters if you plan on using the phone in the Americas, where the GSM and WCDMA bands differ.
ROM wise it matters because even if you're not using the CDMA radio, the hardware is different and the ROMs are designed to reflect that. For day-to-day use in Ireland though, you'll never know the difference between models.

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