Apps2sd for Magic - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

Hi,
I am new to Magic/Sapphire. I only got mine today but have had a G1 for 5months.
Is it possible to do Apps2sd on any of these roms?- i have rooted it and am running Skittle's ion port for 32A. Can the roms be setup to run aps2sd the same way Cyanogen's rom does or do we have to do it old skool with symlinks?
I haven't seen any posts on this so thought i would put it out there...is it really necessary is my next question- do we have enough memory as it is?

We have bigger ROM on Magic, so no need to make app install on SD to reduce performance and usable life of your SD card

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How to Properly setup your phone for JACHero

Ok Guys.
I created this thread cause in the JACHero thread on at least every page everyone asks how to install it, what am I doing wrong, and why is it broken.
So let me give you step by steps of what exactly I have done for me and others to run Hero with out a problem. I will also create a thread with step by step on how to use Ubuntu Linux Live distro to partition your card.
Things you will need to make this work.
Your Brain
G1 Phone
SD Card reader
And the files I included in this thread.
My phone right now is running.
JACHero 2.3
NEW SPL
cyanogens recovery 1.2
8gb class 6sd with Swapper(Swap file on ext2 sd)
setCPU slightly overclock.
Results.
Ever since I did my new Buttons, and the SPL I included in this write up, I have not had one problem flashing any hero rom at all on my phone, nor did I ever have problem actually running hero roms.
So here goes.
First before you partition your card or do anything make sure your card is at least portioned to fat32, don't worry about any other partitions yet.
OK once you do that go ahead and take the radio zip file I am including in this thread and flash it on your phone.
But first make sure you don't already have new radio installed which is 2.22.19.26I THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. To check what radio you have, power off your phone, and power it on while holding the camera button.
If you do have new radio you can continue on to flashing the new SPL.
Flashing your SPL. (PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE NEW BUTTONS INSTALLED)
Ok this is where it might get a little tricky, and you might require a SD card reader I know I did and frankly I think this is the best way to do it and I recommend every time you do put a new update on your sd card to update your phone do it through a card reader.
Now after you flash your SPL you might or I should say more then likely will get stuck at the T-Mobile G1 screen, this also might happen after new radio flash in the previous step. If this is the case do not freak out it's normal and your phone is not bricked, but this is why having a sd card reader is important.
Ok so Here is what you do after you have flashed new Radio and SPL(Note:The steps on running Linux live distro and using it to partition your card is coming up). Boot up Live distro of Ubuntu, when its done booting, go ahead and go into the partitioning program while your sd card is hooked up in the computer.
Go ahead and set up two partitions at this time. One EXT3, and of course the other one Fat32. Your ext3 partition doesn't have to be all that big. I actually have mine set up to 512.
Once you are done creating partitions, go ahead and put the latest JACHero on the FAT32 portion and flash away (don't forget to rename to update.zip).
At this point if you follow all of these steps there is no way possible that your phone should not boot right into the system to run the initial setup.
These steps pretty much walk you through steps as if you were starting with a phone that has completly nothing on it.
Also the first boot up after flashing the new ROM, might take a few mins at the HTC screen.
Once your phone loads up and you go through the setup process go ahead and run swapper, it should be an APP that's already pre-installed.
Once you run swapper go into the setting and change the location of your swap file from /sdcard/swapfile.swp to /system/sd/swap.swp
Here is the reason why. The default location is your FAT32 partition. If you all of a sudden mount your phone to the computer with the swap file running on FAT32 you will corrupt your sd card, and then you will have to wipe and reinstall everything.
If you set the location of your swap file on /system/sd/ that's actually your ext2/3 partition and never gets mounted and you never have to turn swapper off.
Well I hope this helps some of you out. I will be writing the walk through on loading up live distro of Linux and partitioning your card sometime today.
I have used this method on a couple different phones and it has worked each time. Also I really recommend installing cyanogens recovery 1.2, as its an excellent way of making a back up of your phone and doing future flashing.
If there is anything anyone thinks that could be done better feel free to post in here.
Remember different people have different ways. I have posted this way cause it has worked for me on my phone and two other phones I setup, and each time there was no hicups.
FILES:
Radio 2_22_19_26I
NEW SPL
CM-Recovery-1.2
Ubuntu Linux Download
DISCLAIMER:
I am not responsible for anything that you might have done to your phone by following these directions. Like I mentioned before so far every time I have used this method, I have had nothing but success.
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
Great post, dude. I've rooted my phone, flashed a few ROMs, including Haykuro's Hero, moved Rosie back to run on the phone instead of the SD card, overclocked and run Swapper. I was still a bit confused and hesitant to flash the JAChero ROM. I'm feeling better about it now. Gonna flash when I get home from work today.
TooSlo said:
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
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I can completely see what you mean by that. But only reason I decided to make this, because two other phones that were having the exact same problems, started working after I did this.
They both had the same symptoms everyone else, and no one really knows where it came from.
So I made sure they had the right radio, then the right SPL, and every time I did something to the SD Card I killed the partitions completely not just format them.
But I destroyed the partition, recreated it and then formatted it to a file system of my choosing.
my g1 is fine ive flashed every rom here and never gotten stuck on boot loop, if anything the files youre downloading for recovery and spl must be corrupted try re downloading your radio file and spl's again.
Include Disclaimer
I like your post but here is something that I would add to your post.
Even though this has worked every time for you do not assume that it will work for every one, therefore make sure you put a disclaimer out there. As you may have seen before, there have been a lot of posters that have blamed others when their phones were either bricked or stuck in boot loops.
Remember....some people may do something wrong during a step and swear that they followed it perfectly and then blame you.
A detailed disclaimer could be of some help since a lot of people will be taking your post as LAW......
for somereason im not able to update my spl is it something u must do i keep gettin a veification faild message when im tryin to flash it wiht alt + s and i cant seem to update to jachero 2.3 im using a 1 g micro sd im really not sure whats going on i have the proper raido settings and everything. also im not really sure how to create 2 partitions on my memory card im running good ol windows vista
how fast is this running.
i tried it once without swapper and it was way to slow in my eyes in order to use at as an everyday phone.
hope you have something for me (is swapper this perfect solution?)
In my opinion the perfect solution is making a a linux swap partition on your sd card.
However last time I created a linux swap partition and created my swap file there after I rebooted my phone I got stuck at the G1 screen.
I think this might have been cause because of having three partitions on the card but I am not 100% sure.
So instead I just use swapper and make it mount the swap file on my ext3 partition which seems to make this rom run really freaking smooth.
Also I have noticed significant improvements of using ext3 vs ext2, but when research how the two different file systems work it makes sense why it would make a difference.
So to answer your question, is swapper the perfect solution? Im not sure if there is anyone perfect solution but I do know that this sure ass hell makes a huge difference in how your Hero rom runs.
for those having boot loops, how about help us help you, run ddms from sdktools and grab a log of whats going on, this way we can determine an issue, because those asking for help with bootloops and asking for help is like asking me to tell you whats wrong with your car over the phone. we cant tell if we cant see whats going on. so helps us, if you have adb and not the sdktools just type
Code:
adb logcat
this way we can see what your phones trying to do.
Excellent post! I wish I this was available yesterday when I did my first Hero ROM ever. The JAC thread is huugggeeee.
Not to hijack your post, but I'll add my two cents and experiences from yesterday if you do not mind.
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Ok first time on Hero. Coming from DudesCupcake.
Pre
Formatted 1gb SD card 500mb Fat32, and the rest Ext3
hxxp://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5870
1. Flashed Radio 2.22.19.26I from (update.zip) successful (camera+power to check)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
2. Flashed SPL 1.33.2005 from (renamed update.zip) successful (new three android skateboard logo on bottom)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
3. Updated to JACHero r2.2.1 from Page 1
Now I have a boot loop, Hero -> HTC...
After installed 2.2.1 should I pop my SD card out and format it again on my computer?
Trying to do the 2.2.1 again.... Wish me luck!
**Update**
Updating to the 2.2.1 again worked.
Ok, everything works!! Much thanks to Luckenbach for the moral support, and thanks to JAC and all the other guides that I linked in my process. So if anyone else is a noob like me you can do exactly what I did (I provided links for each step where I got it from) you should be ok.
XDA rules!
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Quick questions for people with loop problems.
is your linux partition ext2 or ext3?
southeastbeast said:
Excellent post! I wish I this was available yesterday when I did my first Hero ROM ever. The JAC thread is huugggeeee.
Not to hijack your post, but I'll add my two cents and experiences from yesterday if you do not mind.
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Ok first time on Hero. Coming from DudesCupcake.
Pre
Formatted 1gb SD card 500mb Fat32, and the rest Ext3
hxxp://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5870
1. Flashed Radio 2.22.19.26I from (update.zip) successful (camera+power to check)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
2. Flashed SPL 1.33.2005 from (renamed update.zip) successful (new three android skateboard logo on bottom)
hxxp://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
3. Updated to JACHero r2.2.1 from Page 1
Now I have a boot loop, Hero -> HTC...
After installed 2.2.1 should I pop my SD card out and format it again on my computer?
Trying to do the 2.2.1 again.... Wish me luck!
**Update**
Updating to the 2.2.1 again worked.
Ok, everything works!! Much thanks to Luckenbach for the moral support, and thanks to JAC and all the other guides that I linked in my process. So if anyone else is a noob like me you can do exactly what I did (I provided links for each step where I got it from) you should be ok.
XDA rules!
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When you do the CAMERA+POWER boot, what exactly does the second line from the top say?
lol I wasn't requesting help, I was adding to your post! To hopefully help other people =)
Oh I know I'm just collecting data right now that's it.
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CLPD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
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Edit: Also changing location of swapper from your info helped a lot! Thanks, I had the SD problem when I pulled out my SD card to put photos back on (instead of using adb) and I got stuck in a boot loop, I thought I was done for. Just rebooted it a few times and it was back up and running. Good tips =D
what do you mean by "new buttons"?
A quick question that ill ask here as to not clutter up JADs thread any more than it alreadsy is.
I have put on 3 of his roms in the last few days and where as they are stable they are dead slow at times for me. I am using a 2g class 2 sd card with an ext3 partition. How much more would a class 6 card speed swapper up? Is one worth getting?
Sorry to post up in this thread again, but I just wanted to provide some more of my experiences here.
I'd picked up Paragon Partition Manager and used that to format my SD card and create the ext3 partition on it as well. It seems something is wonky with how it created it, as every time I've created the partition, even with different sizes, I always get stuck in a boot loop when trying to install JACHero even though any other ROMs will install just fine.
I've put the update.zip onto my older 1gb card that came with my phone just to see if it would install, and though it took a while, it installed without any issues.
After going through the setup process, I attempted to put in my 4gb card with ext3 on it. Lo and behold, boot loop.
Seems something is funky with the way that Paragon Partition Manager creates an ext3 partition.
I'm now going to install an older ROM and go through the "creating an ext2 partition through the G1" method and then attempt to convert it to an ext3 through Cyan's instructions.
I'll try to keep up to date what's going on. I know this place isn't a blog, I'm just hoping someone will point out my idiocy if I'm making any huge mistakes somewhere.
TooSlo said:
While I can appreciate this topic, I think you need to speak with less certainty that this will always work properly the first time.
For example - I'm coming from the Ramjet ROM, and the process that I have taken.
Freshly formatted 4gb sd card with a 700mb EXT3 partition, the rest is fat32.
Loaded JACHero 2.3 and renamed update.zip
Wiped twice
Installed ROM
Phone went into boot loop - allowed to run for 10 minutes
Removed battery
Attempted to install ROM a second time
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
Wiped again
Installed ROM
Boot loop again - allowed to run 10 minutes
It seems strange, as going from a standard JAC build previously I was able to just wipe, wipe, install and had JACHero 2.1 working without a hitch. I found this strange, as people were complaining about that build, but it seems 2.3 is what's giving me the most headache.
/shrug. Guess I'll go back to Ramjet.
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did you try going into recovery and then choosing fix file extensions... that happend to me, it might be because you have no ext 2

Apps2SD ROM [HELP]

I am lloking for a ROM that has apps to SD but NOT a hero rom, I only have a 32B sapphire so Hero is really slow.
Im using cyanogen 3.6.8 (i think) but it wont install apps to my sd card, I have Rooted and partitioned my card although it says
SD Card Secondary
Total space
Unavailable
Available space
Unavailable
Try to use the hero 32b port with compcache. You can disable the rosie gui if it is not fast enough for you
kingchris said:
Try to use the hero 32b port with compcache. You can disable the rosie gui if it is not fast enough for you
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He ain't lyin', the 2.7.3 Hero ROM with compcache runs really well on the 32B magic, even with widgets aplenty.
thanks for the rwplies.i have tried that hero port but still found it way to slow.always end up going back to cyanogen mod,all I'm looking for is an original android 1.5 Rom that has apps2sd thanks anyway guys
This app cleaned out my sd card and no longer works lol
What app?iWell i tried that JACHero rom and its not fast at all imho.Lags like hell not smooth,Typing on the keyboard takes forever

QTeknology hero rom help!!!

This is the best hero rom i have used and the fastest!!! but i am having issues with the gps sometimes it doesnt work...and i keep getting the htc boot up screen when exiting out of apps frequently..is it because i dont have a class 6 sd card? i am using a class 2 sdcard
Not sure about gps, but for loading screens increase the amount of swap you have. Qtek says you only need 32mb swap for his roms so im guessing you dont have swap. Read up on how to get swap.
Also dont start a new thread for this, post on the particular thread your rom was posted on.
Thank you for the help!! ill look it up in the forums..and i gotcha thanks for the advice

Root Without Custom Build

So i am planing on selling my G1 to a friend, now I told him I will root his phone, but heres the thing, I want to unlock it for him since he uses at&t, that I can already do
But I wish to root his phone but not have a custom build, Since most Iv tryed crash more then the phone should and he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
is it possible, and once again ill state it,
1)unlocked
2)root w/ superuser
3)No custom build or if I have to,do a good non apps on sd thats very very very stable
4)Donut (latest android version)
it is very possible to do app2sd on a 2g card. it's not the best, but it is extremely possible. i ran my phone with a2sd on a 2g card for several months and it worked perfectly fine.
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
eessel said:
I dunno if this will work, and I might be totally just talking crazy, but if you didn't partition your sd card, i don't think it should use a2sd, since i guess to run it, it looks for that second partition? So just like a regular stock sd card without any other partitions should let him use just the regular memory. And on that note, enomther's roms are pretty close to stock, and i'm sure your friend wouldn't mind those extra little additions. Just a suggestion. Hope it helps!
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sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
grandomegabosses said:
sounds about right to me. if there's no ext partition on the card, it can't use apps2sd.
doesn't enomther have just a base donut with just root? no fancy stuff?
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well, I think there's under the hood stuff to make it run a bit faster, but apart from that, it's pretty close to stock. And like I said, his friend shouldn't complain about the extras, or else maybe he doesn't deserve it. lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
tanner2007 said:
...he has a 2gb sd card so he can't do apps on sd
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And what is a problem to use app2sd on 2gb card? I use stock 1gb sd card for a2sd and everything is working fine.
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
holysmokesbatty said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
These are standard OTA roms w/ root.
That should cover all you need.
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I need root, not without =] unless w/ means with? lol can someone clarify?
shadowch31 said:
Even if your friend only runs a 2gig card with just a 150meg ext partition still better than whats on the phone itself and is hardly a noticable loss.
As already mentioned on here Enomthers base rom and the 2.3.3 ext pack are pretty close to stock with a few improvements and I've been running it hard for over a month and never had any problems or issuse's and if you use Amon RA's 1.5.2 recovery image your blazing fella. I switch roms like my underwear at the moment and the nandroid + ext backup on the recovery image brings me back to exactly how is was before switching! Tis genius!
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I dont care about features, if it has root, and no crashing, im good apps2sd is a plus so tell me more about this?
and lets say if i restarted my root process, how would i do it? the guides all have JF old roms in the tuts, idk what to install first after the guide
for everyone else. thanks much

[Q] Help Needed About ROM

hey guys, i am Kenny Spark, if you aint heard of me already, im a GSC Coder and script MW2 Files to hack the game. I can code in several languages including c++
i am new to all this stuf and need a helping hand.
2 days ago i downgraded my HTC Desire's Rom to stock Android 2.1
i then rooted the device using unrevoked on linux (backtrack 4)
then i began to flash custom roms to my phone but im now stuck when i try to flash RCMixHD v2.0 ROM to my mobile.
According to the developer, this rom uses a script know as data2ext which i think requires something to be done with the sd card. i think this has to be done
Fat + 1GB Ext4 + 0.3GB Ext4 + 0.1GB Swap
i know this means partitioning my sd card but i really have no idea on how to do it. i have a 4gb sandisk sd card so if anyone could explain i would appreciate it very much
i flashed the A2SD+ Version and it worked but the data2ext version just hung on the htc screen (i diddnt do anything to my sd card)
also do i need a certain radio or kernal? Thanks alot guys

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