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Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
Most of our legendary developers (JWright, Midget, Leo, Beasty, Helmi) now have different devices, or looking at a new one anyway.
Hopefully our other developers and cookers can continue their work, but it is unlikely that we will see new ROMs and completely new builds of WM6 as we have seen in the past.
I would ask you that you always read the wiki first, and that you don't clog the threads asking developers to release new versions
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
mo3ulla said:
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
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I stand corrected
Nevertheless, we're running out of developers for the Universal...
Just got to wait for the Omni
TehPenguin said:
wait for the Omni
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omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
mo3ulla said:
omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
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Un-standard Screen:
There are a couple of other devices with this (so Microsoft must have a solution). But your right, there are a lot of poorly written applications out there.
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
Screen Rotation:
Haven't actually heard anything about the screen rotation (do you have a link?). But yes, if its more complex then its more likely to fail
SD Card:
Unfortunately I do have to agree with you on this. Micro-SD is available upto 12Gb (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/sandisk-crams-12gb-onto-a-microsdhc-card/) it is *a lot* more expensive than standard SD
So, if the Omni is not a good replacement, and the Universal is growing old - (I can't believe I'm about to ask this question, I love my Uni!) what can we switch to??
I really hope Mo3ulla & Ranju will come up something good and stable and hopefully final (bugs free, welll almost...) ...
TehPenguin said:
Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
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It is a sad day for all of us.
TehPenguin said:
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
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hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
mo3ulla said:
hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
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You are absolutely right, we are really not benifited from the v5...v6 ARM commands. Eventually I'm sure that the shared xscale graphics is more than enough (unless you're using your uni as a playstation).
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
Ditto Beasty - I'm not jumping ship anytime soon.
The only weakness I can see with the Uni is the 64mb ram, and that can always be fixed.
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Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Your words were a beam of light through the clouds. In fact, uni is the best PDA till now any one could obtain it. I have had uni since its firts release at the end of 2005, but due to an accident i converted to many other PDAs, wizard, profit and Tytn. In a lucky day i found a person who repaired my Uni, I was too happy to return back to Uni enjoying all what i have lost with other PDAs, the big and high resolution screen, the full keyboard with dedicated 0-9 numbers keys, a tab and big buttons. with the angeled screen i can use the keyboard to dial numbers easly (in wm6 of course) i seldom use the touch screen now to dial, beleive me i have the sensation the I got freed again after a long time of constriction with other PDAs.
But unfortnately there is some cons with uni without them i"ll never think to convert away from uni for more couples of years:
- The problems in radio:
1- the hanging that may occur when dialling, where the screen is stuck on dialing but not actually dialing and u cannot end call. You can go away from phone and use PDA but u must soft reset to use phone again.
2- this occured only once with me, where many persons called me but the phone didn'r ring nor notify the call by any means, every thing is ok with the PDA, i can use it normally but the GSM module is not working at all.
3- The uni may hang with incoming calls, it will hang with the incoming call screen popup without notifyin me, and i discover it when come to use Uni.
- The deficient vedio call in wm6 (it is not so important, i don't use it for routine calls)
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
I don't know much about Omni, but from ur opinions about it, i think it is not a huge jump from Uni, and there is no need to convert to it from lovely Uni.
Regards
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Hi guys,
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Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Well said Beasty! Thanks for uplifting 'downed' spirits!
Not only Mamaich, we also have The Darkforces Team just in case people had forgotten that most of the new ROM builds floating around came from them, remember the leaked ROM a few months back?
I think our Uni has some juice left even for WM6.1 & the latest enhancements available for her younger VGA sister Athena! The 128Mb RAM hack by Mamaich will prove it's worth in the long run.
As always, a new Uni era will arrive to replace the last one!
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
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WOW!! An Universal with 6.1.1 and 128Mb...
beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Guess I was being a bit gloomy because I haven't updated my ROM in a few months, and I heard a few of the developers were getting new devices.
So, I'm downloading ranju's new ROM, and I'll see how that goes...
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
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Thats a good point.
If a lot of HTC's software doesn't work well with VGA devices, why would HTC release a WVGA device?? Guess that kinda makes the Omni look *very* doubtful...
Midget_1990 said:
running WM 6.1.1
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how many trial period remain ????? ( who in theme will understand what i mean)
Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
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Forgive me if I unintentionally overlooked you Sir as one of the ROM builders!
There it goes fellow Uni owners, our own mod itself has WM6.1.1 ROM confirmed running in Uni. I'm curious when it's going to be made "public"
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
DaVince said:
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
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Hey Davince,
Long time since we've seen you around my friend......
I have to disagree with you my friend, as far as Business productivity tool, nothing on the market has come close to the Universal......... it is the only device with a decent sized screen for writing emails and working with documents and no other device has a keyboard as comprehensive or useable as the Uni's.
The Universal era has not ended, with the introduction of Mamaich's great patch to support 128 mb memory and SDHC cards, you will find it impossible to find another PDA on the market that matches for speed, functionality and storage capacity. The Kaiser and other devices that use mini SD's can only support 16GB cards........the Uni beats that too.
The Uni has been reborn, and is far from dead my friend!!
Cheers,
Beasty
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
Please read the already posted threads relating to your questions...
These questions have been asked and answered several times before, so please use the search tool.
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Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning
i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.
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htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.
You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.
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Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.
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Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.
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I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0
Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.
but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.
i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?
it's the player which supports most formats
I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.
Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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first i like fuze (touch pro).. i like the qwerty keyboard.. but i heard a lot of video crap.. like the old days of kaiser..
my other options are Omnia and Xperia
Omnia has a good feedback at video and speed.. but lacks the qwerty board... but it has 16gb internal memory
Xperia because of the qwerty and speed.. but dont know any flaws..
Xperia and Fuze has a very good support in our site.. i dont know about Omnia??
please give me a feedback like pros and cons, personal experiences..
or should i save my money and wait for the next set of PPC by HTC this 2nd quarter of the year.. WinMo 7 will be release.. and wishing for the snapdragon chipset to be integrated.. 1gig Mhz.. can support 12mp camera.. still hoping...
Fuze
I had the same decision and i bought the Raphael/Touch Pro/Fuze. got it mostly for the keyboard but also because i loved the look of Touch Flo 3D.
At first i was a little disappointed, i had to soft reset at least once a day to keep it working and everything was pretty slow, but i flashed my ROM to Elite RC3 a while ago and it made my Raphael the phone that i wanted it to be to begin with!
Pros extremely fast everywhere, very stable, slide out keyboard is the best you will find IMHO, nice looking interface that is extremely useful and a time saver, lots of applications made just for it!
Cons Its not as good straight out of the box (flash the ROM), camera is slow as a wet week (missed many a photo)
as for the other two i cant give any first hand experience but you will have to find another website for support on the omnia (counts it out for me lol)
Xperia is a great phone it has support on this site (albeit not as much as the Raphael) if it was me choosing again i would be choosing between the Xperia Panels vs Touch Flo 3D and which i like the look of best.
Oh btw one of the things that really swayed me to the Raphael over the Xperia (my 2nd choice) was the VGA screen, im a huge software lover and LOTS of the games and applications i love aren't WVGA compatible and i didn't want to have to run a resolution changer program all the time.
hope this helps you!
thanks man.. im also thinking in the future use.. winmo 7 will use gesture and xperia doesnt have it.. maybe il buy the fuze..
btw, how's your eperience in palying games? slow? im seeing lot of video driver problem in fuze.. does this new ROMs already know to fix it? or putting the D3D from diamond does it?
for your information, you might not be able to use your fuze with WM7's new features since microsoft announced it might require different hardware
go with HTC Advantage 7510. BIG 5" screen, full haptic keyboard and 16Gb storage
thats too bad.. if fuze cant make it to WM7.. i think ill wait for the new addition of HTC. Rhodium ROCKS! its like touch HD with qwerty board! wow.. ill stick with my good old hermes before rhodium hits.. thanks by the way!
in the meantime, get over to the hermes section and flash section8prime8 wm6.5 beta!
Hay guys,
I am getting a new PDA, I have tytn now and it has served me good.
Could you give me your look on this two models, I am thinking about Samsung, since it has much better specs and display, but I got used to touchflo 3D interface a lot...
Is it possible to put it on Omnia?
Your answer will be appreciated and will help me decide what to buy.
Thanks!
There is one added value for choosing HD
The sup`port of this fantastic site!!
Just because of that I´ll choose HD even if omnia has better specs...
Yes, that is bothering me too...
Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
You could use TouchFlo 3D on your Omnia 2 if its WVGA. However as mentioned above the support provided by this site significantly exceeds that of any site that supports the Omnia. To be completely honest, if you havent bought your device yet you should consider the Touch Diamond II. The reasoning behind this is i read an article somewhere mentioning that devices without a windows button will not get an official WM6.5 ROM or something stupid like that (Correct me if im wrong).
Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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Ill be upgrading from my Tytn to an Omnia2
I agree that HTC gets great support here but Hardware and capability wise there is nothing to compare with the omnia2 on the horizon.
AMOLED screen,headphone jack,tv-out,5mpx cam with dual flash....what more could anyone possibly want?
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A forum specialized like this for that device!!!
Hmm, the Touch HD vs Omnia II i8000.
Well, lets face it, this is a question of 'XDA support' or 'No XDA support'. Specs-wise, the i8000 has the Touch HD crushed completely (as have been the case with all new Samsung models; HTC hasn't updated their specs in forever).
Personally, if you ask me for a choice between those two models, I would go with the i8000. The main reason I love XDA support is that it makes the interface looks better and it makes the software faster, but from what I see, the i8000 is already plenty fast and it looks very, very good. Furthermore, the i8000 has support forums too (though not on the level of XDA), so any deficiency may be corrected by its own forums anyway.
The idea of choosing a WM device based on software seems very silly to me. One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D), so transition between WM devices based on software is very simple. If anything, the i8000 should be more appealing software-wise as Samsung put a lot of amazing software on it that has not been ported to other devices yet.
Always buy for the better specs and design. Never buy for the software support. Buy for the software that is already provided.
Any extras can be found on other fan sites and other non-htc developers. Therefore the Omnia 2 is a much better choice.
Besides there are plenty of software that are created that supports non-htc devices, and there are also software that are created specifically for non-htc devices.
Furthermore alot of the technical problems are Windows Mobile based and not always HTC based.
The only 2 reasons to get HTC devices is 1) if you prefer the design and the specs of HTC and 2) if you want to flash your ROM.
HTC devices are easily flashed to a different ROM, but hey man not everyone uses ROMs... I don't ever use ROM's...
Therefore Omnia 2 is a perfect choice if you don't flash your ROM...and point number 1 shows that HTC Touch HD is outdated....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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Well if you're not gonna flash your device or use Touch Flo 3D or any other ported software, than get Omnia 2.
You will still be able to get support in this forum. Most of the issues of non-HTC devices can be supported/solved without the need to correspond to an HTC device.
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undoubtedly, omnia II
gauravdc said:
what more could anyone possibly want?
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a zooming ability on the video camera (while filming)
also, can it play divx/xvid movies like the HD can with coreplayer?
i download movies and dont have to re-encode them, just drag, drop, play. (...generally, unless there was some esoteric encoding used)
mark
I have the same dilemma. I am about to replace my Sony Ericsson W960i with a proper PDA and I am taking into account both, Touch HD and Omnia II.
Similarly I would like to have a Touch Flo 3d interface on my device and therefore I was keener on HTC Touch HD at first. However since it is possible to get a Touch Flo 3d onto all WinMo devices (as I deduced from 8525Smart's post)
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One can find a CAB for just about any Windows Mobile software (including, yes, TouchFlo 3D)
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I rather buy Omnia.
And here it comes to questions:
1. Are my assumptions concerning getting Touch Flo 3d onto Omnia correct?
2. Could anyone explain to me this ->
poetryrocksalot said:
....so therefore get Omnia 2 if you don't flash your ROM....
Think about it mate.
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What does it mean to"flash your ROM" and how is it useful? Isn't it simply upgrading/updating the ROM?
I'd be grateful if you could help
well livegod guess what ! omnia2 has zooming while taking videos with its awesom camera
and the touch player can support almost 99% of all my downloaded and converted movies
as for the TF3D .. i love the new one and i cant seem to find it anywhere to be installed on my omnia2
i hate the widgets... makes the phone looks like a toy so i am using spbmobile shell + pointui
i'am from germany and I have the same problem.....
But here I can buy the Omnia in a few month....:-(
But what is whith the HTC LEO????????
Touchwiz 2.0 quite simply covers up WM 6.1 SO thoroughly on the Omnia II, it's almost like you're not using a Windows phone. The Omnia II is definitely the better pick unless you REALLY want ROMs to flash. Then wait for the Whitestone or Firestone or whatever HTC have next.
omnia camera is far better than the HD2
especially the video recording
the HD2 dont have a chance
but i dont care about the video recording so i will get the HD2
HD2, wins every time. You can flash what ever you want (when hspl comes out!), why would you ever want an omnia?
Hands down the HD2 (Leo). PPC of the year so far!
Samsung Omnia 2 place...
I'm a Forum XDA user for a long time.
It helped me a lot with my old HTC Wizard.
I was quite worried about buying an Omnia2 and losing the Forum support. But HTC HD cannot win O2 in SPECS.
About support... boys I have to admit.
For Omnia2 (that is not a HTC device) the best software and tweaks and amazing ROMs can be found on MODACO (sorry boys, but I have to say).
If you own an HTC device don't even consider getting there. The best place is here!!!
Concerning the TouchFlo3D, there are many versions available on MODACO. There's even a HTC HD2 like ROM with Sense 2.5
Thanks!
As stated on the title, I think it will be great if we can rip iphone apps to run in HD2. Just a suggestion please don't flame me
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Converting apps between platforms
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/air...-write-applications-for-windows-mobile-others
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[iPhone like apps & tweaks build into WinMo]
Applications that can be found in iPhone which are developed or recreated for WinMo.
Doesn't matter with GUI or text interface as long as the idea is there for being creative.
I will try to compile all the 'iPhone like apps' in here which are developed for daily use.
Download Applications:
»SBS Bus Time [SG Only]
»Show Traffic [With Google Map][SG Only]
»Metal Detector - Proof Of Concept
»S2U2 - iPhone Style Slide Lock
»Filmscope [SG Only]
»iPhoneToday - iPhoneToday Video by Birger » Here
Download Tweak:
»Co0kie's Home Tab - iPhone like menu [Swiping Style], Extended Quicklinks & More
More to come...
Credits to afoongwl215, dZenkinZ, 6Fg8, A_C, Co0kieMonster, tronikos, sh2sg.com & Birger for his video
It is impossible. 2 totally different operating system with 2 different file systems, 2 different control sets and 2 different sdk's.
The only way is if the developer makes the app for win mo.
if there was an emulator it would be not impossible...
True, but... I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon.
I don't think an emulator is needed, I mean how many fart apps do you need??
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
i personaly would prefer to see an emulator of android. There are some nice apps that android has, such google map sky, google navigation and Layar. I know VMWare is working on a mobile virtualization but the solution is yet far away in time. But i have to say that an Iphone emulator would be nice also. There tons of apps and games that the Iphone has.
arturobandini said:
espaleena why don't you just buy yourself an Iphone.
Sorry, but I can see so many useless messages coming from former Iphone owners on this HD2 sub-section... I am really fed up
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Too bad I'm not an iPhone fanboy, liking something from iPhone Apps doesn't mean I have to get or support iPhone frenzy.
From my perspective point of view, HD2 users can create cabs to emulate games like FPSece or Morphgear, so you see they can do something to make other things run on HD2. Please dont be stereotype arturobandini it's just a suggestion.
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
yep, in the bible, turns out God did it...hope haven't ruined the ending for anyone. Can't see an emulator for Iphone as you normally need 5-10 times the power of the emulated item for good emulation and the HD2 is good but not that good. Would love some augmented reality stuff for it though, which the iphone has...
For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
There is no way you can emulate iPhone OS or Android on the HD2. Emulation means you need a much more powerful hardware. The games for iPhone OS require pretty much the same hardware the HD2 has. Emulation is not possible.
You can only port them. But you would have to do it for each application and it seems very few developers are interested in porting their games to WM.
The other way would be to be able to boot that OS on your windows phone. It was actually possible on other phones like the Kaiser or the Polaris to boot Android natively.
i dont know if its possible to accomplish dual boot. One thing is get a Android Rom to HD2, but dual boot i dont know.
what about triple boot, me like
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For what is reported here http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee355030.aspx#portAmpConclusion if application developers want, it's not that hard to port iphone applications to windows mobile.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
erik7272 said:
well i had a iphone myself, and it´s not a good phone. But some applications and games are very usefull and goodlooking. and with goodlooking i mean better than applications for the HD2. So if you never had a iphone stop talking about it. it´s like the same as people talking about the bible without reading it.
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Yeah there are some nice apps & games in iPhone.
As I believe HD2 can do more then what people might think,
running PSX games - possible
running SEGA / Gameboy / others - possible
running iPhone downloaded apps - I'm sure it is possible.
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Thx for the info mamv, after reading the website it seems possible to port
iPhone apps that's downloadable in the Apps Store to HTC. We just need some experts to do it.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
vasta.antonio said:
HD2 is a powerful device, the i-phone NO!
Hadware 's HD2, and not just hadware has no comparison to the i-phone, which is nothing but a cell phone more evolved than others and certainly not a PocketPC (say SMARPHONE AN ALMOST, ALMOST! SINCE MAY INSTALL APLICATIONS)
.. was Publicize properly and the people I have to buy, just for curiosity !!... made the news ..... few know the real smatphone!
The developers do admire beautiful of games for the iPhone, Anvendelser per screen capacitive, g-sensor, etc. ...
Why not do the same thing for the HD2 ????... WHY HAS NOT ONLY BEHIND THE BISNES who made the I-PHONE .. ALL HERE.
I-Phone bought many years and many will buy his aplicativo .... simple!
Now with HD2 hope someone aplicativo to invest more powerful and appropriate for this smartphone with the "S" capital ...
.. the people who bought the i-phone has noticed everything that does or fails to do ...
Hello to all and excuse the English ....
Understand?
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Not true: the iPhone has much more powerful Open GL capabilities than the HD2 thanks to that custom PowerVR chip, the HD2 just isn't anywhere near powerful enough to emulate any iPhone software as all it has is raw horsepower. Just because the HD2 has a faster processor does not mean it is holistically 'better' - the iPhone hardware (particularly that of the 3Gs) is very powerful from a mobile graphics standpoint at least. The HD2 can barely cope with Windows Mobile centric apps for a whole day without crashing or lagging, and just look how much much smoother pinch to zoom is on Safari than Opera... the idea that it could emulate an iPhone app is insane, although I really would like it to be true as unfortunately I'm a big social networking and IM user and sadly Windows Mobile lags depressingly behind iPhone and Android in this respect - mainly owing to the embarrassing Windows Marketplace and a lack of definition and development pushing from Microsoft.
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did you really read this article? and did you also understand whats neccessary to "port" an application? you need at least the sourcecode to do so! just downloading a various app and then say "ok, i'll port it" doesn't work
if the developer is willing to port (re-code) an app, then nearly every app can be ported, from nearly every system!
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I didn't say things will be easy porting apps from iPhone to HD2 nor it
is impossible, the main thing is that it's possible to do it.
I do not think ...
But you have a HD2? ... Or you have AI-phone "phone"?
what you say is true only in part ..
I do not doubt that Mac has a duty ottomizato the requirements to run good games, but you can not compare with a PocketPC-phone forefront as HD2 ...
HD2 has everything in the I-Phone and much more ... then if windows is a bit limited in something, just because it does not only turn the games, but all or almost do it with a PC desktop laptop!!
Understand? is not a console but could also make the console, the I-Phone not know ...
my friends at I-Phone does not do many things ... you must carry it behind the PC!
I'm sure the games they play for I-PHONE HE CAN DO EVEN FOR WINDOWS, NOW WITH HD2 ONE CAN SAY YES!
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