i remember a while back a fake video of a guy using a thumb print to unlock his phone.
Is there a modification that can be done so that somebody could just touch a location on the screen to unlock it? I wouldnt mind putting a fake thumb print background and having that as the unlock
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
jez83uk said:
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
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good idea..anybody want to attempt this?
i would be keen in using this! nice idea guys.
The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
You might be able to do something like this with wisbar desktop. I made something like this for a star wars image but nothing that scrolls down like you said. If any software could do it i bet on wisbar desktop. Great idea.
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
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By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
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By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
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thanks for the explanation. Wasn't sure what you meant.
If it recognizes one pixel at a time and you set a block of pixels as the touch point wouldn't this work.
thanks for the advice, anybody else?
You could make it look like it was scanning your thumb, but you couldn't make it really scan it. If you open up one of these touch screens it is just some metal dots on two sheets of clear plastic. They register when they are pressed together and touch. Nothing more.
I believe that Sunscape is an app that will appeal to alot of you guys.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416843 I never tried it but I hear it has a rub to unlock feature...as well as using possible pressure points on the screen to unlock.
I've been doing alot of research about unlockers because I want to build one that like an unlocker combined with an applauncher, when you slide to unlock you basically just slide the icon you want to launch after the unlock and once the screen unlocks it opens to that program. I think it seems logical and keeps people from having to delve into the UI just to unlock and send an SMS or whatever...
I get another idea . In this version i Slide to right , who can change this for slide to left becouse i have SE Xperia X1. And slide to right it's uncomfortable for me becouse slider it's moving. If someone have this motive, please place this
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Hi!
I have a major problem with Pro. Had it for week and already I have missed many calls. Well, technically I've answered them :-(
The problem is that when a call comes in, the touch screen activates and if the phone is in pocket, it will very likely answer the call. It has done this many times and it does it so fast that the vibrating alarm doesn't even vibrate once. So I have no idea that somebody is listening to me in my pocket!
No, the button lock, doesn't seem to help here. Try it. Even with button lock on, you can answer the incoming calls with touch screen.
So what to do? I am really lost with this. Do I need to power off the phone completely when I'm on the road and only power it on when it's on the table? Yes, that works... and yes, it would be ridiculous.
One solution could be that when an incoming call is coming, one would need to enable the touch screen by pressing one of the hardware keys. And the call could be answered with the hardware keys also. After all, they do not press down easily in the pocket. But there is no way to set the phone this way AFAIK.
So, please guys help! (Google didn't help although Diamond users must have the same problem.)
I have the same problem!!! Didn't figured out a way to solve it by my own. It's realy annoying, especially if you do not want to answer at all to the person that is calling.
please, did anyone find a solution to this issue?
someone tried this and seem to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2551522&postcount=124\
I would like to try it without changing the dialier
Source link is here
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=988590&p=14#r263
Think a little app is required that blocks off touch screen as incoming call arrives.
Same problem on the Diamond :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414731
I have tested the technique exposed by Carloshdez with CSDEVCTRL 3.28 and it works on the TP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2590105&postcount=188
I Followed his configuration, but entered "0" at the top for "Lock if Idle for Sec"
When the phone rings, CSDEVCTRL deactivate the screen but keep the hard keys activated.
Very complicated solutions it seems... I do not like to replace the dialler for instance. Hmmm.
Any solution where it would be possible to "open" the touch screen before doing anything to the call. I mean, it needs to behave so that
- the screen activates and you can see who is calling
- the touch screen is inactivate so that you do not accidentally answer it
- you can "open" the touch screen to
* answer
* hang-up
* mute
* i.e. all things that are now possible
This is because the hardware buttons do not give you all options, like mute and send text.
Hate to say, but iPhone style (or should I rather say Androind style) "slide to unlock" might be it as it's not that probably thing to happen in pocket. Are there such programs? And what do they do otherwise (that I probably do not want )?
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
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With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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You didn't get the mute part... I frequently want to mute the ringing WITHOUT answering or hanging up the call. Excellent feature BTW! Usually just to walk away from the current situation to quiet place to answer the call. Yes, I know I can do that with turning the phone upside down also, but there is also the text message option that I'm learning to use also.
I guess I need to try S2U2 then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
try this over S2U2!
Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
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If the other party ends the call, the phone unlock. Actually it is only lock during "ringing"
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Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
The whole sensor thing is turning into a carnival, hopefully some real useful apps will be made using it.
EnOleEikka said:
I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
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I would apreciate a application that locks the phones touch screen while it rings and unlocks it after you answer (so that you can use it during the call).
Can't make this application, i'm not that smart, but maybe someone els can?
LE: I think this thread should be made "Sticky" until we find a solution, because we have here a real issue!!!
I am going to attempt to DEV an app like that, but I am sure one of the Senior's could dev this much quicker
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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And that is how I've also answered and ended a call before I've slid the phone out of the pouch since the pouch is quite tight and activates the screen...
Need some other option on screen, like S2U, to 'unlock' the normal phone app' touch options first.
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I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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It IS in his Pouch, and both in my pocket, but it answers itself the calls!!!!
The app should use the side bottons to MUTE the call.
I tryed the sensor lock and I was at first impressed with it but as soon as I had to soft reset the Pro, Sensorlock starting to vibrate alot!
I couldn't unlock the phone at all, not even enter my pin. The only way I could get in to my phone was by putting in the USB cabel, and uninstall the sensorlock. So I won't try that again. Stylus lock looks neat but having to remove the stylus from the phone just to be able to answer a call aint what I'm looking for.
I'm hoping that someone here can rip out the locking function from the Kaiser and make it useable on the Pro. That program was really good and simple.
hope someone can help me find what I want.
you should read the readme or use the search engine in this forum. i guess some devices are just not compatible at this time with the vibrate function. wating for 0.3, it should be fixed.
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I tryed the sensor lock and I was at first impressed with it but as soon as I had to soft reset the Pro, Sensorlock starting to vibrate alot!
I couldn't unlock the phone at all, not even enter my pin. The only way I could get in to my phone was by putting in the USB cabel, and uninstall the sensorlock. So I won't try that again. Stylus lock looks neat but having to remove the stylus from the phone just to be able to answer a call aint what I'm looking for.
I'm hoping that someone here can rip out the locking function from the Kaiser and make it useable on the Pro. That program was really good and simple.
hope someone can help me find what I want.
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Yeah I had the same problem!
My touch pro was spaaacing. He was vibrating the whole time....
So the uninstall was very quick with this one
oh seems 0.3.1 is out, bug is gone for me.
for your information ahorn I did use the search function and I did read the readme file..
But sensorlock wasn't my question... I was mearly wondering if someone could make the screen/button lock from kaiser to work in the Raphael... since I had problems with the other.
I had SensorLock installed since yesterday and had no problem at all. In fact I am liking it over another product. Maybe you need change your settings.
My only qualms is that it does not have a unique gesture.
I still got problems with sensorlock, so I'm not gonna use that.
I would like a more simple locking program like the one on Kaiser. Easy and fully functional.
Phone Lock
Sensor Lock would be great for me if I shouldn’t have to rotate the phone like a weird maniac pretending a magician or something - looks extremely funny when it doesn’t unlock and you’re in a meeting with business partners. Like I’m really desperate to impress the party this way …
Would be lovely if instead of rotating the thing we could use a sequence combination of pressing hard buttons. Like “Power, + Back” toggling “Lock Everything”, though this diminishes its name “SensorLock”, I would be gratefully thankful if this option would be kindly implemented by the developer.
i use vjdevice lock and remaped it to the left soft key, works great, one touch screen lock and power off. Big thanks to Vjay555 for this one.
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJDeviceLock
Security lock from the Tornado smartphone is another good one. I hope someone will be able to rip it off for the TouchPro.
If you are looking to disable the on-screen answer keys only, the answerkeys disabler works perfectly for me...
I thought I saw it in here, but when I search for it I get nothing. Is there a way to turn off the feature where it wakes when it is shaken hard or dropped? It seems to sensitive to me and whenever I set it on my desk it seems to kick on. Thanks!
Unless you have installed an extra feature / application to do this "wake on shake / drop" I can only imagine that your sensor that detects if the stylus has been removed is rather loose.
I could be wrong here, but no matter how much shaking I exert on my Fuze it doesnt awaken until I push the power button.
Extra thought: Try doing it after a soft reset also are you running Gyrator 2 or a similar program to auto rotate upon device rotation?
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Unless you have installed an extra feature / application to do this "wake on shake / drop" I can only imagine that your sensor that detects if the stylus has been removed is rather loose.
I could be wrong here, but no matter how much shaking I exert on my Fuze it doesnt awaken until I push the power button.
Extra thought: Try doing it after a soft reset also are you running Gyrator 2 or a similar program to auto rotate upon device rotation?
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You were completely right. I didn't even consider the stylus. That's what it was. I tried it with the stylus out and nothing happened. Put it back and it did it and it must jiggle the stylus enough to cause it to wake. Thanks!!!
kernel610 said:
You were completely right. I didn't even consider the stylus. That's what it was. I tried it with the stylus out and nothing happened. Put it back and it did it and it must jiggle the stylus enough to cause it to wake. Thanks!!!
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Damm I thought this some feature that I had no idea that it had and someone should definitely make an app to wake on shake lol
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Damm I thought this some feature that I had no idea that it had and someone should definitely make an app to wake on shake lol
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Actually "Wake on shake" will be one of the most important features in WM7, just dont know how the name leaked out already! lol
kernel610 said:
You were completely right. I didn't even consider the stylus. That's what it was. I tried it with the stylus out and nothing happened. Put it back and it did it and it must jiggle the stylus enough to cause it to wake. Thanks!!!
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No problem, glad to hear it was something as simple as that. Now to just disable the awake upon stylus removal.
Wrong Trademark
"Actually "Wake on shake" will be one of the most important features in WM7, just dont know how the name leaked out already! lol"
Sorry, sir. We've actually registered "Shake'n'wake" and "Drop to stop" at the USPTO. You were close, though. For Shake'n'wake, you just put it in a baggie full of breadcrumbs and herbs and spices, and shake it to activate. We offer a guarantee on Drop to stop. If you drop it hard enough, it WILL stop - guaranteed.
We also registered a trademark for a feature that would allow it to activate the "start" button when it detects a vibration when stored in your rear pocket. Care to guess what that was?
love,
Redomond.
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"Actually "Wake on shake" will be one of the most important features in WM7, just dont know how the name leaked out already! lol"
Sorry, sir. We've actually registered "Shake'n'wake" and "Drop to stop" at the USPTO. You were close, though. For Shake'n'wake, you just put it in a baggie full of breadcrumbs and herbs and spices, and shake it to activate. We offer a guarantee on Drop to stop. If you drop it hard enough, it WILL stop - guaranteed.
We also registered a trademark for a feature that would allow it to activate the "start" button when it detects a vibration when stored in your rear pocket. Care to guess what that was?
love,
Redomond.
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I am interrested in the "Drop to stop" function, do you have a pricetag on that?
the last registered trademark should be "Fart to start" or something like that, am I right?
Anyway, awaiting your answer on the pricetag!
I appologize if its already on here somewhere but I didn't find much on it. what I think would make the G1 much nicer to use would be a back gesture rather then having to reach down to the back button all the time. u know slide your thumb from right to the left when ur in an app and it would be the same as streching your thumb all the way down to the back button. If someone could either tell me how to set gestures or make something quick and simple to do it I think it would be much nicer to use and I would appriciate it much.
This forum is great and helped me tons on my universal so naturally I'm turning here for help first. I have a feeling by the end of the year Android will be killin the iphone! Turns out its not the phone, its the OS... lol..
The G1 does that to a certain extent but what you are talking about would require a lot of codding in the OS, I don`t think it would be a simple task. But if you are a coder and want to do this, I`m sure other people can offer you some assitance, JF would be one of them for sure. Cheers!
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u know slide your thumb from right to the left when ur in an app and it would be the same as streching your thumb all the way down to the back button.
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Possibly the only space the operating system reserves for its own input detection is the notification bar. I imagine it might be possible to add some kind of swipe detection to that. However considering how narrow that space is, I don't see how it would be any better than just clicking the back button.
As for the system detecting swipes on the whole lcd, that's probably a non-starter. It would break the touch user interface of many apps.
Currently there are two ways to bring up the programs tab - dragging the tab up and a short press on the tab itself. It *may* be possible to change the function of the short press to 'back' but I think that may cause a lot of inadvertent 'back' presses...
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Currently there are two ways to bring up the programs tab - dragging the tab up and a short press on the tab itself. It *may* be possible to change the function of the short press to 'back' but I think that may cause a lot of inadvertent 'back' presses...
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I think what svxdriver wants is for a leftward swipe to be universally recognized as a backstep, meaning not just on the Launcher screen but in all applications.
Not sure how well that would work. The o/s would need to distinguish between a swipe and just scrolling across the screen. Easier, I think, to just use the back button.
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Not sure how well that would work. The o/s would need to distinguish between a swipe and just scrolling across the screen. Easier, I think, to just use the back button.
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well it doesn't have a hard time distinguishing between moving up on a page and when you drag from the top of the screen to pull the notification bar down. in windows mobile I had a program that I could assign different gestures to do different things.. I thought it the same kind of thing would be handy.. but I wouldn't want it to go back cause I swiped, onlyl if I swipe from the edge of th screen to signify I want to go back..
I know the title sound complicated but i don't think the idea is. I either saw this in a dream or in another forum and haven't been able to find it again. Anyways my idea is pretty simple:
When the phone is turned up to it's proper position as if your holding it in your hand (the screen is facing up) the phone automatically unlocks it self without the need to press the damn menu button twice or do a silly pattern. When you put it down on a surface, you put it screen down and then when you pick it up and turn it over, it wakes up easy as that. If the phone is facedown and rings it wakes up. And you want the parameters of the phone tilt to be strict enough the phone won't wake up when it's in your pocket. Also, when you put it facedown, the phone will go to sleep.
I sadly don't know if you can overwrite the unlock of the phone (that has no pattern lock) nor do i have the porgraming skills to do this. If it's not possible to bypass the lock screen with a program, maybe u could emulate the menu button being pressed twice? Just my idea. If there is something like this out there already, just post the link. Thank you!
This app already exists. You can download it in the Market. Unfortunately I can't remember the name...it was one of the first apps I installed on my phone.
OK--I looked it up, and the app I was thinking of is not what you asked for. The app is Ring Control, which focuses on controlling the ringer based on position.
However, it uses the same inputs that yours would, so maybe you should contact the programmer? He has a long post about the programming of it here, and it doesn't seem to far from what you want:
http://fognl.blogspot.com/2008/11/android-ring-control.html
Bump!!! come on guys...make this happen.