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Two little issues with locking and backlight

Hi Guys,
There are a couple of things I've not been able to get working in the way I'm used to on my Artemis, just wondered if anyone can help....
1) The require password when device is not used for x minutes, when set to 0 minutes on my Artemis, would only ask me for the password if it was coming out of standby... I'm trying to get the Polaris to behave in the same way. The gotcha with this is that having edited the settings on the Artemis, it doesn't behave like this anymore
What's actually happening is that when set at 0 minutes the device locks right away. I've now set it to 1 hour but now when coming out of standby I don't have to put the password in unless I leave it for an hour... Which is what it sounds like it should do, but not what I want, or what it WAS doing!
2) My backlight doesn't come on until I have fully unlocked the device... So I can't see the keypad or unlock button in daylight. My Artemis doesn't do this, the backlight comes straight on.
Any ideas are welcome
Thanks
LP

Wouldn't mind knowing about a reg tweak for the backlight/lock issue myself...

Screenlock? and backgrond light
I'v managed to get a screenlock function to work really nice. The Polaris is now always locked on start, exept for Answer/Reject soft and hardware buttons, plus that I can shut down the ringing with the volume button. Really nice.
The program that does it is Autolock. You find it att http://www.intelliott.com
The backlight problem was solved via a register hack found on this site.
At
\HKCU\ControlPanle\Backlight\LockLevel
Rename the folder to LockLevelX.
Does work even if the handset is soft resetted.

Thanks peta§,
That reg hack works pretty well

Any chance of a little more detail on the registry tweak. The backlight issue is really starting to annoy me.
Thanks

I followed the instruction in this link. It was quite easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351709

peta§,do u know any registry tweak in order to disable key lock permanently?

Cheers Peta,
Worked a treat however, I don't understand why this was not done at the manufacturing stage unless it was purely an oversight.
Thanks

I agree MusicArtist, it should be activated in WM6 from the start. It's very interesting what can happen when you take your phone out of the pocket when a reminder calls for your attention, or a SMS or call is incoming and you by mistake presses some functions on the activated screen.
dene3erw, disabling key lock permanently? I don't follow. Do you mean the Autolock?
If so, ýou can find an icon in the Program folder, just to tap on it. It enables/disables the function.

How do I lock the screen and keys?

I really hoped I would be out of unlocking problems with my new Touch Cruise. But no! And I cannot find any usefull help. So I turn to this site for help.
Even when I soft-lock the Cruise and after that push the power button, it will automatically unlock by calls, received messages and agenda reminders.
Since I use the agenda very frequently, it unlocks and then drops the agenda item that he was reminding me of. Or it opens the agenda after an unnoticed received call, since the agenda button is at the left bottom of the screen and drops an upcoming item.
Recently I looked at my phone and it opened a picture by itself.
When I lock the device, I want it to stay locked until I tell it to unlock.
I found S2U2, but only 0.98 for WM5. Can anybody help me to solve this disturbing problem?
Okay, after I found out that S2U2 WM5 does work on WM6 and I found out how to unzip the rar files (I used 7-zip), I was able to install S2U2 on my Polaris. And it seems to work (at least with agenda items).

You can also try pocket secure, a very useful application
http://www.totalpocketpc.com/ps5web/index.html

is here any developer or someone who is able to create a programm that just unlocks the xda when i push the button. s2u2 is nice but it starts problems though.
(my music is disturbed by that as long as it is switched on)
my phone is allowed to make sounds, but not to unlock when i get a call or a reminder.
who ever solves this problem is supposed to be one of the greatest

jan.jansen said:
When I lock the device, I want it to stay locked until I tell it to unlock.
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if I have not understood badly, you can resolve your problem planning a device password.
(in my italian Touch Cruise: >Impostazioni>Blocca
in English I believe:
>Setting>lock
and set time to sleep and password.
When the device is locked if you receive a call you can only to answer and if you do not introduce your password you cannot do anything.
Try, I use so my Touch Cruise

nice idea , tough i think this is unhandy...
this is what i imagine:
the button on the top right corner at the orbit2 makes the screen light up and unlocks all buttons.
and sometimes (a phone call, a reminder) the screen lights up and unlocks the buttons too. i don't like that (starts other programms and so on). i just want the phone to "screen lights up and unlocks the buttons" when i push the button on the top right corner. (the phone is still allowed to make sounds ^^)
i bet you know what i mean. (s2u2 is ok, but not perfect.)
or how can i contact the people developping the software for the phone to ask them?
thank you
PS: yeah, i want what jan wants too ^^

Help: Touch Pro answers calls in pocket!

Hi!
I have a major problem with Pro. Had it for week and already I have missed many calls. Well, technically I've answered them :-(
The problem is that when a call comes in, the touch screen activates and if the phone is in pocket, it will very likely answer the call. It has done this many times and it does it so fast that the vibrating alarm doesn't even vibrate once. So I have no idea that somebody is listening to me in my pocket!
No, the button lock, doesn't seem to help here. Try it. Even with button lock on, you can answer the incoming calls with touch screen.
So what to do? I am really lost with this. Do I need to power off the phone completely when I'm on the road and only power it on when it's on the table? Yes, that works... and yes, it would be ridiculous.
One solution could be that when an incoming call is coming, one would need to enable the touch screen by pressing one of the hardware keys. And the call could be answered with the hardware keys also. After all, they do not press down easily in the pocket. But there is no way to set the phone this way AFAIK.
So, please guys help! (Google didn't help although Diamond users must have the same problem.)

I have the same problem!!! Didn't figured out a way to solve it by my own. It's realy annoying, especially if you do not want to answer at all to the person that is calling.
please, did anyone find a solution to this issue?

someone tried this and seem to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2551522&postcount=124\
I would like to try it without changing the dialier
Source link is here
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=988590&p=14#r263

Think a little app is required that blocks off touch screen as incoming call arrives.

Same problem on the Diamond :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414731
I have tested the technique exposed by Carloshdez with CSDEVCTRL 3.28 and it works on the TP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2590105&postcount=188
I Followed his configuration, but entered "0" at the top for "Lock if Idle for Sec"
When the phone rings, CSDEVCTRL deactivate the screen but keep the hard keys activated.

Very complicated solutions it seems... I do not like to replace the dialler for instance. Hmmm.
Any solution where it would be possible to "open" the touch screen before doing anything to the call. I mean, it needs to behave so that
- the screen activates and you can see who is calling
- the touch screen is inactivate so that you do not accidentally answer it
- you can "open" the touch screen to
* answer
* hang-up
* mute
* i.e. all things that are now possible
This is because the hardware buttons do not give you all options, like mute and send text.
Hate to say, but iPhone style (or should I rather say Androind style) "slide to unlock" might be it as it's not that probably thing to happen in pocket. Are there such programs? And what do they do otherwise (that I probably do not want )?

With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.

What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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You didn't get the mute part... I frequently want to mute the ringing WITHOUT answering or hanging up the call. Excellent feature BTW! Usually just to walk away from the current situation to quiet place to answer the call. Yes, I know I can do that with turning the phone upside down also, but there is also the text message option that I'm learning to use also.
I guess I need to try S2U2 then.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
try this over S2U2!

Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.

fireblade63 said:
What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
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If the other party ends the call, the phone unlock. Actually it is only lock during "ringing"

paulyluca said:
Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)

The whole sensor thing is turning into a carnival, hopefully some real useful apps will be made using it.

EnOleEikka said:
I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
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I would apreciate a application that locks the phones touch screen while it rings and unlocks it after you answer (so that you can use it during the call).
Can't make this application, i'm not that smart, but maybe someone els can?
LE: I think this thread should be made "Sticky" until we find a solution, because we have here a real issue!!!

I am going to attempt to DEV an app like that, but I am sure one of the Senior's could dev this much quicker

I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....

anonimo said:
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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And that is how I've also answered and ended a call before I've slid the phone out of the pouch since the pouch is quite tight and activates the screen...
Need some other option on screen, like S2U, to 'unlock' the normal phone app' touch options first.

anonimo said:
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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It IS in his Pouch, and both in my pocket, but it answers itself the calls!!!!

The app should use the side bottons to MUTE the call.

Modification idea for S2U2

i remember a while back a fake video of a guy using a thumb print to unlock his phone.
Is there a modification that can be done so that somebody could just touch a location on the screen to unlock it? I wouldnt mind putting a fake thumb print background and having that as the unlock

I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...

jez83uk said:
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
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good idea..anybody want to attempt this?

i would be keen in using this! nice idea guys.

The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".

mysterd said:
The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working

You might be able to do something like this with wisbar desktop. I made something like this for a star wars image but nothing that scrolls down like you said. If any software could do it i bet on wisbar desktop. Great idea.

ls6tt said:
not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
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By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.

mysterd said:
By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
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thanks for the explanation. Wasn't sure what you meant.
If it recognizes one pixel at a time and you set a block of pixels as the touch point wouldn't this work.
thanks for the advice, anybody else?

You could make it look like it was scanning your thumb, but you couldn't make it really scan it. If you open up one of these touch screens it is just some metal dots on two sheets of clear plastic. They register when they are pressed together and touch. Nothing more.

I believe that Sunscape is an app that will appeal to alot of you guys.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416843 I never tried it but I hear it has a rub to unlock feature...as well as using possible pressure points on the screen to unlock.
I've been doing alot of research about unlockers because I want to build one that like an unlocker combined with an applauncher, when you slide to unlock you basically just slide the icon you want to launch after the unlock and once the screen unlocks it opens to that program. I think it seems logical and keeps people from having to delve into the UI just to unlock and send an SMS or whatever...

I get another idea . In this version i Slide to right , who can change this for slide to left becouse i have SE Xperia X1. And slide to right it's uncomfortable for me becouse slider it's moving. If someone have this motive, please place this

[REQ] A way to desactivate call button ?

I personally never use the hard call button to make a call, and it is still often a source of accidental calls.
I use Exidler's Hd2ProximityScreenOff, so i don't need in theory a screen lock. Very, very usefull. Some accidental calls have been made though.
Here is what i found so far :
- Vangrieg InCall Lock is great, but works only when a call is received.
- Aebutton plus doesn't help for long press on call button.
- I searched on whole registry for "cprog.exe" (The dialer processus) without interesting founds.
I would be so grateful if someone find a way to remove this call function when pressing the button, if possible using with no process in background ...

Why dont you just enable the lock screen that way you cant accidentally make a call when it comes on.

thank for your reply optiknerv.
with hd2proximityscreenoff, I think we are in a new and intuitive way to use phones, something apple did not patent already ! ;-)
we dont need anymore a screen lock, but kind of key lock can be, in very rare cases, useful.
I guess it is impossible to map this button ...

Have you ever tried AEBPlus??
It locks every kind of key - software keys too - and make them addressable to other application
You'll find it on http://ae.inc.ru

Sichroteph said:
thank for your reply optiknerv.
with hd2proximityscreenoff, I think we are in a new and intuitive way to use phones, something apple did not patent already ! ;-)
we dont need anymore a screen lock, but kind of key lock can be, in very rare cases, useful.
I guess it is impossible to map this button ...
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Why insist to map the button? Screen lock solves your problem. Try S2U2 or TLP. They will make sure you don't press the green hard key by accident. If you use proximity to auto unlock, there is no extra action on your side. The green hard key (and the phone) is locked whenever the phone is in your bag or pocket.

thanks you very much alex. touch lock pro solved my problem and can use well proximity sensor after some settings.