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Hi!
I have a major problem with Pro. Had it for week and already I have missed many calls. Well, technically I've answered them :-(
The problem is that when a call comes in, the touch screen activates and if the phone is in pocket, it will very likely answer the call. It has done this many times and it does it so fast that the vibrating alarm doesn't even vibrate once. So I have no idea that somebody is listening to me in my pocket!
No, the button lock, doesn't seem to help here. Try it. Even with button lock on, you can answer the incoming calls with touch screen.
So what to do? I am really lost with this. Do I need to power off the phone completely when I'm on the road and only power it on when it's on the table? Yes, that works... and yes, it would be ridiculous.
One solution could be that when an incoming call is coming, one would need to enable the touch screen by pressing one of the hardware keys. And the call could be answered with the hardware keys also. After all, they do not press down easily in the pocket. But there is no way to set the phone this way AFAIK.
So, please guys help! (Google didn't help although Diamond users must have the same problem.)
I have the same problem!!! Didn't figured out a way to solve it by my own. It's realy annoying, especially if you do not want to answer at all to the person that is calling.
please, did anyone find a solution to this issue?
someone tried this and seem to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2551522&postcount=124\
I would like to try it without changing the dialier
Source link is here
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=988590&p=14#r263
Think a little app is required that blocks off touch screen as incoming call arrives.
Same problem on the Diamond :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414731
I have tested the technique exposed by Carloshdez with CSDEVCTRL 3.28 and it works on the TP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2590105&postcount=188
I Followed his configuration, but entered "0" at the top for "Lock if Idle for Sec"
When the phone rings, CSDEVCTRL deactivate the screen but keep the hard keys activated.
Very complicated solutions it seems... I do not like to replace the dialler for instance. Hmmm.
Any solution where it would be possible to "open" the touch screen before doing anything to the call. I mean, it needs to behave so that
- the screen activates and you can see who is calling
- the touch screen is inactivate so that you do not accidentally answer it
- you can "open" the touch screen to
* answer
* hang-up
* mute
* i.e. all things that are now possible
This is because the hardware buttons do not give you all options, like mute and send text.
Hate to say, but iPhone style (or should I rather say Androind style) "slide to unlock" might be it as it's not that probably thing to happen in pocket. Are there such programs? And what do they do otherwise (that I probably do not want )?
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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dmsr66 said:
With the solution I exposed, the screen is turned on but locked when a call comes in.
When you hangup with the hard key, everything (including mute, etc) is unlocked so you can use your TP as you were before.
Or you can use S2U2. With it, you have a "Slide to unlock" and "Slide to answer" Iphone's style button.
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You didn't get the mute part... I frequently want to mute the ringing WITHOUT answering or hanging up the call. Excellent feature BTW! Usually just to walk away from the current situation to quiet place to answer the call. Yes, I know I can do that with turning the phone upside down also, but there is also the text message option that I'm learning to use also.
I guess I need to try S2U2 then.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
try this over S2U2!
Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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What happens if the other party was the one to end the call (you did not end the call by pressing the end key), will it still unlock the screen or what?
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If the other party ends the call, the phone unlock. Actually it is only lock during "ringing"
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Hm... turning my phone around before I can answer a call seems to me a little silly.
A simpel application would be more usefull.
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I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
The whole sensor thing is turning into a carnival, hopefully some real useful apps will be made using it.
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I agree! Seems like an excellent idea, but the turning part seems complicated (risc dropping the phone, use 2 hands...?). I rather have something that can be done just by thumb of one hand.
(No, haven't had the possibility to try either one yet.)
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I would apreciate a application that locks the phones touch screen while it rings and unlocks it after you answer (so that you can use it during the call).
Can't make this application, i'm not that smart, but maybe someone els can?
LE: I think this thread should be made "Sticky" until we find a solution, because we have here a real issue!!!
I am going to attempt to DEV an app like that, but I am sure one of the Senior's could dev this much quicker
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
anonimo said:
I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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And that is how I've also answered and ended a call before I've slid the phone out of the pouch since the pouch is quite tight and activates the screen...
Need some other option on screen, like S2U, to 'unlock' the normal phone app' touch options first.
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I know it sounds like a silly solution and I agree that this is a serious design bug but a simple way to avoid this problem is to keep the phone in its pouch....
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It IS in his Pouch, and both in my pocket, but it answers itself the calls!!!!
The app should use the side bottons to MUTE the call.
i remember a while back a fake video of a guy using a thumb print to unlock his phone.
Is there a modification that can be done so that somebody could just touch a location on the screen to unlock it? I wouldnt mind putting a fake thumb print background and having that as the unlock
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
jez83uk said:
I don't know of any answer to this, but a cool looking method would be that you have to hold your thumb on there for 1.5 - 2 seconds while a 'scanning bar' moves down the thumb like a photocopier.
Requiring a thumb to be held on would make it more secure against accidental unlockings in the pocket.
Calling any bored developers...
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good idea..anybody want to attempt this?
i would be keen in using this! nice idea guys.
The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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The purpose of S2U2 is to make people do a sliding gesture in order to unlock the phone, so that it cannot be unlocked using a simple "touch", even a long one on the screen.
So your request is just the contrary of what everybody wants S2U2 to do...
With your method, what would prevent a long un-wanted touch to be performed while the phone is in your pocket ?
Please also remember that Windows Mobile devices have, for the time being, resistive screens, unable to detect "a thumb touch"... They only can detect "one pixel at a time".
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
You might be able to do something like this with wisbar desktop. I made something like this for a star wars image but nothing that scrolls down like you said. If any software could do it i bet on wisbar desktop. Great idea.
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not sure what everybody wants S2U2 to do, if you mean what it was intended for isnt the purpose of this forum to build apps and change existing apps to further everyone's knowledge and pleasure of their phone? If you dont like the idea, no big deal dont comment.
What your saying is that something would have to press the power button on the phone and then touch a certain location for a set amount of time. I think this is highly unlikely, even more so for the people that carry their phone in a case or by itself in a empty pocket.
Im not sure what you mean by one pixel at a time, my sbp keyboard recognizes when I hold down a certain letter, so not sure how te WM would prevent this from working
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By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
mysterd said:
By "one pixel at a time", i mean "one pixel at a time"... When you press a resistive screen, even with your whole thumb, in the end WinMo retrieves the coordinates of a single pixel that was "clicked". Actually the screen returns the coordinates of the pixel at the center of the pressed area (or something like that).
As for my comment, please be free to tell me i'm wrong, but please let me free to comment also
And finally, concerning the situation i describe to be likely, you're right, S2U2 was made because the situation is very likely : even with a case, it's very easy to answer a phone call or to click everywhere on an app when the phone is in the pocket.
So, no offense meant, let's all keep cool.
Have a nice day.
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thanks for the explanation. Wasn't sure what you meant.
If it recognizes one pixel at a time and you set a block of pixels as the touch point wouldn't this work.
thanks for the advice, anybody else?
You could make it look like it was scanning your thumb, but you couldn't make it really scan it. If you open up one of these touch screens it is just some metal dots on two sheets of clear plastic. They register when they are pressed together and touch. Nothing more.
I believe that Sunscape is an app that will appeal to alot of you guys.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416843 I never tried it but I hear it has a rub to unlock feature...as well as using possible pressure points on the screen to unlock.
I've been doing alot of research about unlockers because I want to build one that like an unlocker combined with an applauncher, when you slide to unlock you basically just slide the icon you want to launch after the unlock and once the screen unlocks it opens to that program. I think it seems logical and keeps people from having to delve into the UI just to unlock and send an SMS or whatever...
I get another idea . In this version i Slide to right , who can change this for slide to left becouse i have SE Xperia X1. And slide to right it's uncomfortable for me becouse slider it's moving. If someone have this motive, please place this
Greetings all.
Does anyone know of a good way of locking the screen while making a phone call? I've tried proximity sensor, which does not work on my phone. I currently have my time out setting at 15 seconds, but that does not work either. Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm sick of face dialing/hanging up.
Proximity sensor does not work at all for me, either. I have been begging and begging people on the forum to help come up with a way to remove or disable the huge "End call" button, as I am constantly hanging up on people with my face.
It is the number one suckiest thing about my Hero right now.
oh, i am looking for this kind of software but found nothing
Probably one of the best "answer/hang up" functions I saw was with SIPdroid. Slide up to answer, slide down to hang up. Of course, the data service is not good enough to always use that though.....
I put the notification bar down down, but it seems almost buggy, sometimes the notification bar stays down and sometimes it just moves up by itself again.
Hit the home button to get out of the dialer window...
Nanan00 said:
Hit the home button to get out of the dialer window...
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And, then, enjoy the vibrations as you move your homescreen icons around with your face.
Why is there so much resistance to figuring out how to either lock the screen during a call or just disable or remove the stupid soft "End call" button?
Is it significantly more difficult than changing the button color or creating a ROM?
doojer said:
And, then, enjoy the vibrations as you move your homescreen icons around with your face.
Why is there so much resistance to figuring out how to either lock the screen during a call or just disable or remove the stupid soft "End call" button?
Is it significantly more difficult than changing the button color or creating a ROM?
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Home button is cool if you happen to only touch the end call button and never anything else. I personally called a friend and sent 4 blank texts to someone, don't ask me how....
Home button will cause as many problems. Notification bar coming down is the best way I've found....
an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.
Avalaunchmods said:
an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.
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I will try that one. Seems like it could work, thanks.
Well, google is my friend, i don't know why I doubted ye...
Screen Suite does it for me. The app is $1.99, but it has a setting where it automatically locks the screen on calls.
A bluetooth headset negates that problem completely......
muppetman462 said:
Well, google is my friend, i don't know why I doubted ye...
Screen Suite does it for me. The app is $1.99, but it has a setting where it automatically locks the screen on calls.
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How do you like it? I found it and it seemed kind of bloated with a lot of features I don't need. Does it eat up memory/power?
I am interested....
I don't get why you guys are having so many issues with this, my phone screen locks at the default of 30s when in calls, it has done this as long as I have had the phone.
Nanan00 said:
I don't get why you guys are having so many issues with this, my phone screen locks at the default of 30s when in calls, it has done this as long as I have had the phone.
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Mine usually does. Unless it thinks I'm pressing things with my face, which keeps it awake.
That is... if my face doesn't end the call by the time the 30 seconds is up. My guess? It's probably the shape of our faces?
I just try to hold the bottom part of the screen away from my face. Once the screen turns off I've never hung up on someone.
mrcharlesiv said:
I just try to hold the bottom part of the screen away from my face. Once the screen turns off I've never hung up on someone.
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I do this too. It's very annoying.
Avalaunchmods said:
an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.
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Hmm another good one! Any keyboard presses do anything nasty? I'm on swype but I wonder if hitting the mic button on the hacked keyboard would do anything annoying.
Thanks for the tip!
My main problem is when my wife calls, and wants to talk to my son. His face is a lot smaller, and well, everything get screwed up when he uses the phone. As for the program, it does have a lot of features, but all I did was have it set to auto-lock on phone calls. I still have my default vanilla lock screen.
Lack of a both a proximity sensor and dedicated screen-off button is this phone's single unforgivable flaw.
I will never again buy a touchscreen device without at least one of these.
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
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indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
According to a tweet from HTC (https://twitter.com/htc/status/461511570959663104), you're supposed to be able to double tap the screen while it is sleeping in order to wake the device.
This doesn't work for me unless I do it really hard or have it in my hand. Anyone have the same experience? Any setting I need to change? Maybe it's my ROM? (Skyfall)
Are you using enough of your finger to tap it?
On mine I have to almost tap it with the full pad of the end of my finger. I can't just double-tap with the tip of my finger.
Yeah, that's never worked for me either. It seems like the sensor only gets activated once I pick it up.
Yeah someone in marketing was misinformed. Unless you're using a custom kernel, you need to move the device first to get it to wake from a tap or swipe
Thanks for the feedback. I ask because someone tweeted @ me: "Bring your unit back to the carrier you purchased it from. It's worked fine for us with no issue at all."
For me, I tap the screen once and then double tap it right after. Seems to do the job.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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well really its like this ==> Settings/Display & gestures/Motion Launch Gestures/HELP =(look (close its really there =] ) and then under Double tap it reads "Pick up the phone in portrait orientation and double tap to wake " but if I really double tap mine while its laying flatly screen up with some force it wakes just make sure you really give it good tapping.
Other than that test to see if picking it first portrait orientation and give it a few taps and see if it wakes.
I just saw the post above mine that is a great answer/work around. I like that kind of thinking.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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I was going to reply with this exact method until I saw that you did so.
This works, and resolves the issue completely. now a light double tap even turns on the screen while it is laying flat.
It's a pretty simple concept. Unlike the LG G2, this phone came with some more smarts to save battery. The G2 device is ALWAYS active to receive phone taps, thus using more battery. The M8 device only once the phone is in motion it turns on the sensor to recieve any kind of double tap, thus saving battery! Pretty nice IMO and smart. Motion control window says itself you need to pick up device then double tap to activate.
For people who want to bypass this you can:
A. Tap the phone hard while on a desk thus causing the phone to move around waking up the motion sensor to activate double tap.
B. Give the G Sensor setting a bad setting so when device is laid flat on a surface the phone thinks it's not flat thus activating the double tap feature all the time thus using more battery.
So either love the feature for what it is or don't and us more battery.
The M8 double-tap to wake requires you to pick up the phone. The double-tap motion is not enough. If you double tap it while flat on a table it may work but usually it does not or very inconsistent.. Lift it and it will always work.
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Just tried it: Yes I can
No.. You definitely can't. Either you're not covering the sensor or you're not using a Verizon m8.
Confirmed.. Cover sensor, DT2W doesn't work.
berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey there. Long time no see. Wish i could afford the 6P... And i love the M8. Should be good for another year.