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every thing seems to be the same
though there are differences in the sound output
pin 19 must be connected to ground for sound through the connector
pin 19 cant be connected to +6v or else the whole xda2 is not responding anymore
pin 1 (mic) must be amplified
going to buy a small mic ampliefier on 12v tomorrow
Hmm, considering people still use their XDA I carkit, i suppose it should work...
However, the audio i tapped from the bottom connector is dead too...
Only hing i can think of is that HTC rewired it so the bottom connector only gives audio if you ground Pin 19 (Car_on).
If your 100% on pin 3 & 4 being #ground, they might have made audio mono, and switched pin 2 & 3, audio out on pin 2 and ground on pin 3. For audio that would still work...
Btw the headset-out is filled with a rubber piece, not handy for quickly attaching an audiopug i'm tinking of cutting it, but that's a bit drastic for a temporary workaround to use audio-out...
jpiek said:
Btw the headset-out is filled with a rubber piece, not handy for quickly attaching an audiopug i'm tinking of cutting it, but that's a bit drastic for a temporary workaround to use audio-out...
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You took the words straight out of my mouth :?
All i really want is a Bluetooth handsfree profile !!! :twisted:
tomorrow morning ill try to get it working
maybe if i put +6v to CAR_ON it helps
the phone goes to speaker mode
maybe micfroon will work then to
audio pins are the same
so mic in would be pin 1
i think there is only a slight difference
audio was normally always been put through the connector
not it isnt anymore
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the connector is the same
the 19 pin function is different
+ will block every function of this phone, so thats the problem with my own carkit, i have connected it this way
- will send audio only through the connector
problem is now that i want to use a mic
when i connect a mic to pin 1 and GND, there is not sound
i know that pin one really is the mic, cause when i tap the tip of the wire while recording audio or test calling i hear ticks..
what kind of microfoon must i connect to pin one
must the same as the carkit version i think
or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
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also very intresting and maybe my awnser
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum...tart=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mic
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maybe if i put +6v to CAR_ON it helps
the phone goes to speaker mode
maybe micfroon will work then to
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In speakermode you dont't have audio trough the connector...
the connector is the same
the 19 pin function is different
+ will block every function of this phone, so thats the problem with my own carkit, i have connected it this way
- will send audio only through the connector
problem is now that i want to use a mic
when i connect a mic to pin 1 and GND, there is not sound
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I have the opposite problem, i want audio-out for a external speaker, but no ext. mic. (din't get one to work).
what kind of microfoon must i connect to pin one
One that doesn't want a wire to any power.
I bet one of an old nokai headset might work...
or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
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Are you sure the wiring is the same, or are you just guessing ?
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or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
Are you sure the wiring is the same, or are you just guessing ?
i am sure
i have tested loads of micrfoons
from nokia headset etc
external sound source is the awnser
i connected a mp3 player and it records fine
now i just need to make an external sound aplifiar for the microfoon
and set pin 19 to GND then its all done
got some old nokia carkit
maybe i can mod it
You mean you got te mic-in to accept audio, but only from an amplified source like a MP3-player ?
Here on xda-developers.com the said the mic-in should't be amplified...
But, hey, they can be wrong to...
when i connect a normal mic (tested 4 different ones) there is absolute sillence
when i connect my mp3 player and turn up the volume then there is sweet sound
Ok, talked to the techie-colleage today :
Headset mic is a condensator mic.
pulls approx. 1V (from audio signal)
What we need is a 'spool'-mic, they seem to be a bit more rare than te condensator ones... these pull approx. 0,6V His thoughs where to use a small speaker and test if it will work as a mic. Then try a real mic...
Or get a velleman kit with condens.mic and amplification
On XDA2 pin2 is NOT GND !
I agree with last post, pin2 in XDA2 is not conected to GND pins 5, 16, 17,18 (all them connected)
When I ground pin2, a little beep (wav) is heard, but nothing seems to happen.
Can anybody point what's the use for pin2 ??
I'm trying to build my own car kit with no success:
I can´t obtain audio out whith or without grounding pin19
I must correct my last update.
I obtain audio when in phone mode, but not during playing waves or TomTom instructions. Even Ring Tones do not go out trough the bottom connector.
So is it a software problem ?
Can function of pin2 br related to this ??
Anybody knows 100% XDA2 connectro pinout ??
myxda web page states that most of the accesories from xda1 will NOT work on xda2
PIN 2 IS ground, or the XDA 1 carkit wouldn't give any sound in combination with an XDA 2 !
The XDA 2 seems to give sound ONLY for phone be it through carkit or BT headset.
If that's true, and if that's the hardware on the XDA 2 then i want my XDA 1 back !!!
is there any solution yet to fix the bad audio quality at the connectors car_audio r/l ?
making my own carkit
when i connect a microfoon to pin 1 and ground
and audio is also connected
and i put pin 19 car_on on earth
audio is propperly muted on the phone and redirected through the connector
and i get sound
but nodoby can hear when i try to talk back
i can hear them
but thats it
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making my own carkit
when i connect a microfoon to pin 1 and ground
[...]
but nodoby can hear when i try to talk back
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Take a look at the connector-site from the xda on this site. There are some comments about connecting a microphone. Not every one will work...
HTH
Stefan
Is there any way listen to Radio without using the cable? just bluetooth handsfree for example?
AFAIK the cable acts as an antennae.
cable/controller acts as a radio receiver so i doubt it.
so if i install the radio program to my qtek s200 and jack the headset of touch cruise , s200 will play radio?
i5t sounds crazy but as you say cable/controller acts as a radio receiver , so the phone by it self has no radio chip or something....
It won´t work on a Neo.
The TC has an inbuilt radio chip but no inbuilt radio antenna. You need the headset or the HTC W100 adapter as an antenna. Otherwise the radio on the TC doesn´t start.
Best regards
Starwalker
Ok ok.. it was just an idea.. now i was trying to push all the sounds to my bluetooth headset with a bluetooth application but in vain...
Ok guys !
Maybe by streaming but I haven't tried it yet.
and if I connect a simple thin wire on the good pin of the mini usb plug ? will it work ?
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and if I connect a simple thin wire on the good pin of the mini usb plug ? will it work ?
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I don't think so. I think there is another pin on the connector that is linked to either GND or +5V and is used by the TC to detect whether the headset adaptor is plugged in. If the FM Radio app doesn't detect that the headset is plugged in then it will assume that no aerial is present, even if you have your thin wire. You can see this in action by just launching the FM radio app without the headset plugged in and it will give you an error message and refuse to go any further.
The $1000 question is what two pins to bridge to satisfy the headset-present test? Unfortunately I don't know this although I did see a site somewhere that has a full wiring diagram but like an idiot I didn't bookmark it and have never been able to find it again.
- Julian
By streaming and a BT headset it's perfect!
Some more information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362739&page=2. Ciao
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I don't think so. I think there is another pin on the connector that is linked to either GND or +5V and is used by the TC to detect whether the headset adaptor is plugged in. If the FM Radio app doesn't detect that the headset is plugged in then it will assume that no aerial is present, even if you have your thin wire. You can see this in action by just launching the FM radio app without the headset plugged in and it will give you an error message and refuse to go any further.
The $1000 question is what two pins to bridge to satisfy the headset-present test? Unfortunately I don't know this although I did see a site somewhere that has a full wiring diagram but like an idiot I didn't bookmark it and have never been able to find it again.
- Julian
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512 - there you go mate ;].
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512 - there you go mate ;].
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D'oh. It was on this forum all the time . Thanks Leez.
- Julian
thx 4 Nitrogen, who really GENIUS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365023
thx 4 Karhoe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324557
all d support member.
my question:
I have tornado and is good. but jack 4 earphone has broken. the solder of that jack was make the board crack. all the function are good except sound.
Sound does not hear only when i make a call and play music. ringtone is good.
now, i can only make a call and play music using bluetooth (stereo).
can i jumper that broken jack to speaker and mic using solder cable?
and how bout d correct line to speaker and to mic?
thx U Very Much.....
same thing
I have the same thing happened to my imate SP5. I accidentally pulled out the headphone jack, and now I can make calls and receive calls through bluetooth, and also play them on bluetooth stereo.
I have tried oldsaps SpeakerPhone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369399&highlight=speaker (the latest version) but it doesnt work on my phone either, probably just a glitch.
I've already tried soldering it, but it's hard to point the wires. Besides, it costs 80 bucks to repair it, so I think I'll just buy a new phone.
headset mode.
No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
Do a search for "usb stereo adaptor" on Ebay and you'll find ones that you can use standard headphones for your phone.
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No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
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Ok... Thanks i will try it.
isyot2s, can u upload those picture?
thx again...
thx
isyot2s said:
No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
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Ok... Thanks i will try it.
isyot2s, can u upload those picture?
thx again...
Greetings. I am the owner of a FYT UIS 7862 device. I have now done all the workarounds regarding the poor microphone quality during a call via Bluetooth.
I have connected an external microphone and disabled the internal microphone (via adhesive tape on the two contacts).
Here is the external microphone: https://m.de.aliexpress.com/item/1005001585070997.html?gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite
Then I reflashed the firmware with the config.txt and this content:
persist.sys.zlink.mic.vol=9.9
persist.audio.mic.senstivity=1
persist.btmic.gain=10
persist.btspk.gain=7
Nevertheless, the call quality is really extremely poor. Then I installed a recorder app and recorded my voice. The test showed a clear sound image, it really sounded very good. But as soon as you make a call via Bluetooth, the quality is very poor.
Does anyone else have an idea what I could do? Thank you guys.
I had the same issue with Mekede M300S FYT116. This extra content is not valid for this unit, flash back the original config.txt and try.
The same for me, anyone has solution on this?
IMHO : Change the microphone !!!
I think I tested about 15 microphones (recovered from various devices) until I found one that works perfectly.
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IMHO : Change the microphone !!!
I think I tested about 15 microphones (recovered from various devices) until I found one that works perfectly.
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I have now ordered a Sony XA-MC10. Will report on Monday whether it works. If Sony is no good, what then?
I also ordered an expensive Panasonic microphone. But, unfortunately, I was not satisfied with him; also by testing several microphones I solved the problem. The "winning" microphone is a no-name.I don't know exactly, but it could come from a mobile headset...
I connected the Sony microphone today and what can I say: it works perfectly. Now everyone can hear me clearly and understandably. By the way, I paid 25€ for the Sony XA-MC10 new (on eBay) and can highly recommend it.
I'm glad you've sorted it out. Can I make you a question about your bluetooth connection? I also have a FYT 7862 and calls occurs without problem, but regarding the bluetooth connection: does your radio connects to your phone as soon as your get inside your car or do you have to connect it manually?
For me, the smartphone connects immediately with Bluetooth of the headunit. It takes one second.
But the headunit always connects automatically to the last Bluetooth connection. If I was connected and then my wife drives the car, she has to connect manually. The same then when I drive again afterwards.
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For me, the smartphone connects immediately with Bluetooth of the headunit. It takes one second.
But the headunit always connects automatically to the last Bluetooth connection. If I was connected and then my wife drives the car, she has to connect manually. The same then when I drive again afterwards.
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Thank you for replying. Ok, so my unit does exactly the same but it doesn´t keep "My Favorites" on the main screen, it wipes it all, through the change. Does yours keep the "favorites" of each of one connections?
Once again regarding the Bluetooth connection: I put a button on the home screen of my wife's smartphone and mine. You click this once briefly and it connects immediately with the head unit, should it not happen automatically. This saves a few annoying clicks on the smartphone. You can easily do this via Macrodroid.
Regarding the favorites: No favorites are deleted, everyone has his own. I do not have this bug.
Thanks for that tip. In fact it saves a bunch of time! I'll see with the developer why my favorites get wiped.
Macrodroid is a powerfull one.
Solvin said:
I connected the Sony microphone today and what can I say: it works perfectly. Now everyone can hear me clearly and understandably. By the way, I paid 25€ for the Sony XA-MC10 new (on eBay) and can highly recommend it.
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I had issues with call quality and tried the suggested Sony XA-MC10 microphone.. Confirmed, people can now hear what I am saying. Thanks a lot.
pdedinski said:
I had issues with call quality and tried the suggested Sony XA-MC10 microphone.. Confirmed, people can now hear what I am saying. Thanks a lot.
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hi, did you replace the microphone or did you also disable the internal microphone.
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hi, did you replace the microphone or did you also disable the internal microphone.
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I have replaced the microphone. Also my head-unit had a setting in its Factory Settings an option to choose internal or external microphone. I Opted for an external one there. But even with this setting with the included microphone and one other, the other party in the call could barely understand what I was saying. Since I have installed the Sony XA-MC10, I can have a normal call. Yes, people say there is interference and noises while driving, but the call apparently is clear enough. Maybe it is worth mentioning previous two microphones were center windshield close to rear-view mirror. This one is installed on the left-side roof-support (or whatever it is called), a bit closer to me.
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25€ for the Sony XA-MC10 new
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Same here, it's a good microphone. My unit doesn't have an internal microphone so no interference issues.
The only issue left is a bit annoying still: The other person hears an echo of its own voice, I guess my unit picks it up from the speakers and transmits it back to the other person - the echo stops once I mute the microphone.
My voice is clearly heard (unless I mute of course).
Must be software related, because the issue doesn't exist in calls using Microsoft Teams and the like (installed on the unit and using the same microphone and speakers).
Solvin said:
I connected the Sony microphone today and what can I say: it works perfectly. Now everyone can hear me clearly and understandably. By the way, I paid 25€ for the Sony XA-MC10 new (on eBay) and can highly recommend it.
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Thanks for providing the solution with the sony microphone, but I wanted to ask you about the most recommended configuration of the "config.txt" file.
Did you respect the factory settings?
Or have you modified it?