every thing seems to be the same
though there are differences in the sound output
pin 19 must be connected to ground for sound through the connector
pin 19 cant be connected to +6v or else the whole xda2 is not responding anymore
pin 1 (mic) must be amplified
going to buy a small mic ampliefier on 12v tomorrow
Hmm, considering people still use their XDA I carkit, i suppose it should work...
However, the audio i tapped from the bottom connector is dead too...
Only hing i can think of is that HTC rewired it so the bottom connector only gives audio if you ground Pin 19 (Car_on).
If your 100% on pin 3 & 4 being #ground, they might have made audio mono, and switched pin 2 & 3, audio out on pin 2 and ground on pin 3. For audio that would still work...
Btw the headset-out is filled with a rubber piece, not handy for quickly attaching an audiopug i'm tinking of cutting it, but that's a bit drastic for a temporary workaround to use audio-out...
jpiek said:
Btw the headset-out is filled with a rubber piece, not handy for quickly attaching an audiopug i'm tinking of cutting it, but that's a bit drastic for a temporary workaround to use audio-out...
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You took the words straight out of my mouth :?
All i really want is a Bluetooth handsfree profile !!! :twisted:
tomorrow morning ill try to get it working
maybe if i put +6v to CAR_ON it helps
the phone goes to speaker mode
maybe micfroon will work then to
audio pins are the same
so mic in would be pin 1
i think there is only a slight difference
audio was normally always been put through the connector
not it isnt anymore
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the connector is the same
the 19 pin function is different
+ will block every function of this phone, so thats the problem with my own carkit, i have connected it this way
- will send audio only through the connector
problem is now that i want to use a mic
when i connect a mic to pin 1 and GND, there is not sound
i know that pin one really is the mic, cause when i tap the tip of the wire while recording audio or test calling i hear ticks..
what kind of microfoon must i connect to pin one
must the same as the carkit version i think
or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
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also very intresting and maybe my awnser
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum...tart=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=mic
akira said:
maybe if i put +6v to CAR_ON it helps
the phone goes to speaker mode
maybe micfroon will work then to
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In speakermode you dont't have audio trough the connector...
the connector is the same
the 19 pin function is different
+ will block every function of this phone, so thats the problem with my own carkit, i have connected it this way
- will send audio only through the connector
problem is now that i want to use a mic
when i connect a mic to pin 1 and GND, there is not sound
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I have the opposite problem, i want audio-out for a external speaker, but no ext. mic. (din't get one to work).
what kind of microfoon must i connect to pin one
One that doesn't want a wire to any power.
I bet one of an old nokai headset might work...
or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
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Are you sure the wiring is the same, or are you just guessing ?
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or what connection will let the xda2 go into speaker mode auto
also there is no audio being put through the connector if pin 19 is not connected to ground
Are you sure the wiring is the same, or are you just guessing ?
i am sure
i have tested loads of micrfoons
from nokia headset etc
external sound source is the awnser
i connected a mp3 player and it records fine
now i just need to make an external sound aplifiar for the microfoon
and set pin 19 to GND then its all done
got some old nokia carkit
maybe i can mod it
You mean you got te mic-in to accept audio, but only from an amplified source like a MP3-player ?
Here on xda-developers.com the said the mic-in should't be amplified...
But, hey, they can be wrong to...
when i connect a normal mic (tested 4 different ones) there is absolute sillence
when i connect my mp3 player and turn up the volume then there is sweet sound
Ok, talked to the techie-colleage today :
Headset mic is a condensator mic.
pulls approx. 1V (from audio signal)
What we need is a 'spool'-mic, they seem to be a bit more rare than te condensator ones... these pull approx. 0,6V His thoughs where to use a small speaker and test if it will work as a mic. Then try a real mic...
Or get a velleman kit with condens.mic and amplification
On XDA2 pin2 is NOT GND !
I agree with last post, pin2 in XDA2 is not conected to GND pins 5, 16, 17,18 (all them connected)
When I ground pin2, a little beep (wav) is heard, but nothing seems to happen.
Can anybody point what's the use for pin2 ??
I'm trying to build my own car kit with no success:
I can´t obtain audio out whith or without grounding pin19
I must correct my last update.
I obtain audio when in phone mode, but not during playing waves or TomTom instructions. Even Ring Tones do not go out trough the bottom connector.
So is it a software problem ?
Can function of pin2 br related to this ??
Anybody knows 100% XDA2 connectro pinout ??
myxda web page states that most of the accesories from xda1 will NOT work on xda2
PIN 2 IS ground, or the XDA 1 carkit wouldn't give any sound in combination with an XDA 2 !
The XDA 2 seems to give sound ONLY for phone be it through carkit or BT headset.
If that's true, and if that's the hardware on the XDA 2 then i want my XDA 1 back !!!
is there any solution yet to fix the bad audio quality at the connectors car_audio r/l ?
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making my own carkit
when i connect a microfoon to pin 1 and ground
and audio is also connected
and i put pin 19 car_on on earth
audio is propperly muted on the phone and redirected through the connector
and i get sound
but nodoby can hear when i try to talk back
i can hear them
but thats it
akira said:
making my own carkit
when i connect a microfoon to pin 1 and ground
[...]
but nodoby can hear when i try to talk back
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Take a look at the connector-site from the xda on this site. There are some comments about connecting a microphone. Not every one will work...
HTH
Stefan
On http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors it is clearly explained that the MDAII connector has following audio-related pins:
1 CAR_MIC_IN
3 CAR_AUDIO_R
4 CAR_AUDIO_L
With the original T-Mobile MDAII carkit ALL audio (phone & pda) is said to go via these pins
With the XDA2 carkit only phone audio (after accepting a call) goes via these pins.
Maybe this has also something to do with the switching of the in-car signal on
19 CAR_ON
:idea: CAR_ON is connected to +6V on the car charger which makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing.
>> This is the behaviour of the XDAII carkit!!!
When this pin is connected to ground, the internal mike and speaker are turned off, and audio input is taken from the audio input pin on the connector.
>>Is this the behaviour of the MDAII carkit??
:?: So: Would it be worth trying to connect pin 19 to ground instead of +6v inside the carkit cradle??
Can't believe no-one with a XDA2 / Expansys carkit is looking forward to solving these issues too . . .
I checked this a couple months ago when I dismantled my expansys car kit. I'm sure I found pin 19 is already grounded on the carkit. With regard to this part of the pin 19 description:
"...CAR_ON is connected to +6V on the car charger which makes the phone go to speaker mode immediately when picked up or dialing. "
"Speaker mode" in this case means the handsfree mode, where the integral xda II speaker is turned up to "distortingly loud" and the internal mike is used in call, similar to what happens if you push and hold the green/send button during a call. If pin 19 is raised to +6V, this will be the xda II's default behaviour with the phone function. This is so you could plug in a simple car charger that puts pin 19 at +6V and that provides only power to the unit (no mike, speaker etc) and allows you to make/receive calls through the builtin speaker and mike without having to hold the xda to your ear.
I feel that if pin 19 is grounded, all audio should be sent through the bottom connector and then into the car kit. Indeed, this is the case with some ROMS / software versions, but not in others. I therefore think it is a software/ROM issue.
I found with my uk o2 xda II, with both the launch ROM and 1.60.50 ROM I got the same behaviour - the unit did not send pda audio to the bottom connector whether pin 19 was grounded, raised to 6V or left floating. Yet other HTC Himalaya owners have reported things differently with different ROMS.
Firstly I thought this to be a s/w issue as well.
But then: The T-Mobile MDAII carkit seems to be working as desired no matter the rom version . . .
Could we get together a list of device/rom/carkit combinations with the actual behaviour in sorting this out?
ANYONE: pLEASE POST YOUR CONFIG HERE.
MINE:
Config: MDAII / 1.60.00WWE and 1.60.36 ext / XDAII Carkit (Expansys like)
Bahaviour: Only phone audio via carkit when in a call
Configs
I am having an identical problem
Build: 13252 - 1.60.00WWE EXT. 1.60.50
I have an XDA I've been messing about with in the car to try to make myself an in-car kit and that was all going fine (Although the phone is now stuck in in-car mode, think i've blown something up ). For the kit I made there, +6v on pin 19 output all audio to the connector.
I then bought an XDA II and in-car kit, wired it all in and then tried to play audio through an in-car cassette adapter lugged into the headphone socket that's built in to my in-car kit. The phone outputs to the speakers fine, but the audio, (Mp3 and the like) won't go to the conncetor at the bottom. (Note that the in-car kit's jack socket is driven off the 22 pin connector at the base of the XDA II)
I'm dissapointed that it could be a softwaer problem, although surely someone somewhere must know a way to force the software into in-car mode constantly and playing the audio out?
Any solutions then let me know cos I'm really irritated that I've just spent £150 on the in-car kit only to find that it don't work yet!
Roll on the XDA-Developers Special Ed. ROM for the XDA II, I bet that'll fix the problem!
Keep me posted on any updates,
Will
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Just done some more reading on the forum and cam accross this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8346&highlight=car+automobile+mode+xda+ii
not sure how easy it will be to change the dll files over, anyone with some experience in doing this fancy having a go first and letting me know how it gets on? Is it possible to do? What do I have to do once I mess up the ROM on the pda by overwriting a dll file? Can I just hard reset?
Is there any way listen to Radio without using the cable? just bluetooth handsfree for example?
AFAIK the cable acts as an antennae.
cable/controller acts as a radio receiver so i doubt it.
so if i install the radio program to my qtek s200 and jack the headset of touch cruise , s200 will play radio?
i5t sounds crazy but as you say cable/controller acts as a radio receiver , so the phone by it self has no radio chip or something....
It won´t work on a Neo.
The TC has an inbuilt radio chip but no inbuilt radio antenna. You need the headset or the HTC W100 adapter as an antenna. Otherwise the radio on the TC doesn´t start.
Best regards
Starwalker
Ok ok.. it was just an idea.. now i was trying to push all the sounds to my bluetooth headset with a bluetooth application but in vain...
Ok guys !
Maybe by streaming but I haven't tried it yet.
and if I connect a simple thin wire on the good pin of the mini usb plug ? will it work ?
calarfe said:
and if I connect a simple thin wire on the good pin of the mini usb plug ? will it work ?
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I don't think so. I think there is another pin on the connector that is linked to either GND or +5V and is used by the TC to detect whether the headset adaptor is plugged in. If the FM Radio app doesn't detect that the headset is plugged in then it will assume that no aerial is present, even if you have your thin wire. You can see this in action by just launching the FM radio app without the headset plugged in and it will give you an error message and refuse to go any further.
The $1000 question is what two pins to bridge to satisfy the headset-present test? Unfortunately I don't know this although I did see a site somewhere that has a full wiring diagram but like an idiot I didn't bookmark it and have never been able to find it again.
- Julian
By streaming and a BT headset it's perfect!
Some more information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362739&page=2. Ciao
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I don't think so. I think there is another pin on the connector that is linked to either GND or +5V and is used by the TC to detect whether the headset adaptor is plugged in. If the FM Radio app doesn't detect that the headset is plugged in then it will assume that no aerial is present, even if you have your thin wire. You can see this in action by just launching the FM radio app without the headset plugged in and it will give you an error message and refuse to go any further.
The $1000 question is what two pins to bridge to satisfy the headset-present test? Unfortunately I don't know this although I did see a site somewhere that has a full wiring diagram but like an idiot I didn't bookmark it and have never been able to find it again.
- Julian
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512 - there you go mate ;].
leez said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512 - there you go mate ;].
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D'oh. It was on this forum all the time . Thanks Leez.
- Julian
thx 4 Nitrogen, who really GENIUS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365023
thx 4 Karhoe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324557
all d support member.
my question:
I have tornado and is good. but jack 4 earphone has broken. the solder of that jack was make the board crack. all the function are good except sound.
Sound does not hear only when i make a call and play music. ringtone is good.
now, i can only make a call and play music using bluetooth (stereo).
can i jumper that broken jack to speaker and mic using solder cable?
and how bout d correct line to speaker and to mic?
thx U Very Much.....
same thing
I have the same thing happened to my imate SP5. I accidentally pulled out the headphone jack, and now I can make calls and receive calls through bluetooth, and also play them on bluetooth stereo.
I have tried oldsaps SpeakerPhone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369399&highlight=speaker (the latest version) but it doesnt work on my phone either, probably just a glitch.
I've already tried soldering it, but it's hard to point the wires. Besides, it costs 80 bucks to repair it, so I think I'll just buy a new phone.
headset mode.
No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
Do a search for "usb stereo adaptor" on Ebay and you'll find ones that you can use standard headphones for your phone.
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No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
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Ok... Thanks i will try it.
isyot2s, can u upload those picture?
thx again...
thx
isyot2s said:
No software can solve that problem, try to open your your device ( please refer to an instruction on how to open your device) then at the top bottom at earphone socket( this is where you plug your earphone jack ) theres as small movable metal ( this act like a switch that when you plug your earphone jack it automatically switch to headset mode),try to clean its contact like using a needle or a small pin which will scratch the contact.
I've try this method already on my device.
Try it!! good luck!!!!!!
ill try to post some pics later
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Ok... Thanks i will try it.
isyot2s, can u upload those picture?
thx again...
Hi!
I've spent many hours on google trying to find a way to alter my voice during calls, in real-time but did not found any cheap or easy ways to do it so I came up with this idea and I thought it would be nice to share it with you guys.
You'll need:
Old nokia earphones with mic
Soldering iron
Standard stereo audio jack connector-cable
If you want to use it on Android, follow this instructions to rewire it: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rewire-Old-Nokia-handsfree-WH-102-to-use-it-with-A
Open the earphones with a knife or something to reveal the circuit like shown in the link above. Now you can see that there is a small mic connected on the circuit using two pins.
The only thing you have to do is cut the stereo cable and connect the two cables inside it as shown in the pics below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dquhzufjdt...G0158.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezyhu2m36o...G0159.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zxsv3j87i...G0160.jpg?dl=0
You connect the red wire to the pin in the red circle and the naked wire to the pin in the black circle
Plug the earphones on your phone and the stereo jack on your computer's audio output. Connect a microphone on your computer and you are ready to configure your computer.
To do this, right click on the speaker icon on the taskbar and select Recording devices. Go to the configuration page of your microphone and under Listen tab check "Listen to this device" and select the audio output of your computer(where the stereo jack is connected). Now you can use your computer microphone to speak during voice calls.
Just search for a software on your computer that alters your voice and you are good to go. This one looks good: http://www.screamingbee.com/
I am using a Logitech G35 and Logitech Gaming Software has the capability to change your voice built-in.
andreasyeah said:
Hi!
I've spent many hours on google trying to find a way to alter my voice during calls, in real-time but did not found any cheap or easy ways to do it so I came up with this idea and I thought it would be nice to share it with you guys.
You'll need:
Old nokia earphones with mic
Soldering iron
Standard stereo audio jack connector-cable
If you want to use it on Android, follow this instructions to rewire it: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rewire-Old-Nokia-handsfree-WH-102-to-use-it-with-A
Open the earphones with a knife or something to reveal the circuit like shown in the link above. Now you can see that there is a small mic connected on the circuit using two pins.
The only thing you have to do is cut the stereo cable and connect the two cables inside it as shown in the pics below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dquhzufjdt...G0158.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezyhu2m36o...G0159.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zxsv3j87i...G0160.jpg?dl=0
You connect the red wire to the pin in the red circle and the naked wire to the pin in the black circle
Plug the earphones on your phone and the stereo jack on your computer's audio output. Connect a microphone on your computer and you are ready to configure your computer.
To do this, right click on the speaker icon on the taskbar and select Recording devices. Go to the configuration page of your microphone and under Listen tab check "Listen to this device" and select the audio output of your computer(where the stereo jack is connected). Now you can use your computer microphone to speak during voice calls.
Just search for a software on your computer that alters your voice and you are good to go. This one looks good: http://www.screamingbee.com/
I am using a Logitech G35 and Logitech Gaming Software has the capability to change your voice built-in.
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This is kinda cool. I'm going to look more into this later, but on first impression I just keep thinking "So I can call people and sound like the guy from Scream?!" Do you have any video/audio recordings of how it's working for you or what it sounds like? Curious to know the difference and all that. Thanks for the heads up!
mojito13 said:
This is kinda cool. I'm going to look more into this later, but on first impression I just keep thinking "So I can call people and sound like the guy from Scream?!" Do you have any video/audio recordings of how it's working for you or what it sounds like? Curious to know the difference and all that. Thanks for the heads up!
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Logitech software has those 6 options but you can configure the pitch on each one of those: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n89x1fnj0fpo5ph/sample.mp3?dl=0
Dropbox not open without username & password
I tried meny times to open these images but couldn't. Dropbox says sign up first.
andreasyeah said:
Hi!
I've spent many hours on google trying to find a way to alter my voice during calls, in real-time but did not found any cheap or easy ways to do it so I came up with this idea and I thought it would be nice to share it with you guys.
You'll need:
Old nokia earphones with mic
Soldering iron
Standard stereo audio jack connector-cable
If you want to use it on Android, follow this instructions to rewire it: http://www.instructables.com/id/Rewire-Old-Nokia-handsfree-WH-102-to-use-it-with-A
Open the earphones with a knife or something to reveal the circuit like shown in the link above. Now you can see that there is a small mic connected on the circuit using two pins.
The only thing you have to do is cut the stereo cable and connect the two cables inside it as shown in the pics below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dquhzufjdt...G0158.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezyhu2m36o...G0159.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zxsv3j87i...G0160.jpg?dl=0
You connect the red wire to the pin in the red circle and the naked wire to the pin in the black circle
Plug the earphones on your phone and the stereo jack on your computer's audio output. Connect a microphone on your computer and you are ready to configure your computer.
To do this, right click on the speaker icon on the taskbar and select Recording devices. Go to the configuration page of your microphone and under Listen tab check "Listen to this device" and select the audio output of your computer(where the stereo jack is connected). Now you can use your computer microphone to speak during voice calls.
Just search for a software on your computer that alters your voice and you are good to go. This one looks good: http://www.screamingbee.com/
I am using a Logitech G35 and Logitech Gaming Software has the capability to change your voice built-in.
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Hello. Your dropbox pictures seem to be deleted, or something happened to them. Can you please upload new pictures? It will be really very very helpful...