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6.1... what does it give us?

Ok, I've searched around, so sorry if this has been covered before, what exactly does 6.1 give us over 6?
The only stuff on the internets i have found is relating to Smartphone version not the bigboy Windows Mobile Pro version.
And you cant search for things less than 4chars on here (and most forums, very annoying)
cheers

For enterprise a lot!
You will be able to manage all your WM6 for System Center Mobile Device Manager...

Threaded SMS. Hopefully one that works with MMS without any of the issues of the ripped Palm Threaded one.

erikk said:
Threaded SMS. Hopefully one that works with MMS without any of the issues of the ripped Palm Threaded one.
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What's wrong with PocketCM?

I haven't played with any of the newer versions of pocketCM so I might not be the best to speak to it but from my limited and dated experience.
PocketCM is an add-on viewer of the SMS messages in your regular SMS inbox; it just reads them and groups them together. So you have to always launch PocketCM to read SMS threaded (versus reading it straight in messaging or pocketCM having its own SMS database like Palm). This is an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others.
PocketCM isn't just a threaded SMS client; it's really designed to be a replacement for contacts and such within WM. As such it's a larger program than just an SMS threader. If you don't want to use pocketCM for anything other than threaded SMS it's unnecessarily large and bloated for just that purpose.
Some people don't like the PocketCM interface (myself included on the old version I tried). Palm threaded is much nicer. Hopefully the WM6.1 will be better also.
I also had a lot of issues with PocketCM in terms of multiple SMSs or missing ones; but again that was quite a few versions back so it might be much better.

pardon my ignorance, what is threaded SMS?

Ref Pocket CM:
I have used only the recent versions and i have to say its a great program especially if your using a custom theme. Alot of new features have been added that make it a simple and fast program.
With regard to launching it... now you can set it to launch itself on recieving messages and you can dial / edit / contacts but also you can dial a new number too.
I would recommend it if you want a finger friendly app.
MM

when ever i hear about 6.1 all i ever heard about is threaded SMS, and if thats all thats changed other than little bug fixes (which our chefs have probably over come anyway) IMO theres no point upgrading!

Well if the bug fixes create a more stable/useful/functional base to start with then it just means our cooks can come up with an even better final product.

Well as they've fixed it already, then its already what 6.1 is giving us. Aka its the same thing if you get what im saying?
IMO (and this is based on 6.1 just being bug fixes etc) then its for end users who dont know about XDA-Devs or similar in order to get the bugs fixed.
I hope im wrong, because like everyone i want some more things to play around with but ive just got this gut feeling its not going to be that impressive.

Yea, all i heard about was threaded sms & an updated PIE. that's all i got.

Ive heard that the Smartphone version has a tweaked UI so that its more simplified, but im get to see a single screenshot of 6.1 on a PPC or any news of anything new, obviously other than the bloody threaded sms that ill never use lol

If there is a new IE and Pocket Outlook I'd be more interested.

here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
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* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.

i want the threaded sms thats all.. if someone could extract it so we could install it on our current roms that be fantastic

XtreMe_G said:
here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
* Copy / Paste
* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.
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again captain slow those changes are for SMARTPHONES... :\ sigh

XtreMe_G said:
here's what i got from another thread
Here’s the full run-down of additions that you can expect to see in the WinMo6.1 update (from BGR):
* Copy / Paste
* Domain Enroll in Settings (Enrolling in a domain will connect your device with company resources.)
* New home screen (pan left and right to check out missed calls, notifications like email, sms, etc.)
* Change Master Security Code
* Added text input settings
* Recent Programs when pressing Start menu
* Threaded SMS
* When you compose an email, or SMS, and start typing the name of the contact in the “To:” field, the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!
* Internet Explorer now lets you define a homepage, and also zoom in and out using a nice and clean interface
i've tried the 6.1 rom on a hermes........it does seem a lot faster, although it may be just cause its a clean rom, but the PIE is still crap.......when you zoom out, scrolling is really slow. its a beta rom, hopefully it gets better in the final release.
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all those items are for smartphone (WM6 Standard), not PPC (WM6 Professional) . read thru again you sill see "the contact names finally pop up like Windows Mobile Professional!"
Everything on this list is already in WM Pro (except threaded sms)

oh well, sorry

tbh as no one is raving about anything in 6.1 im guessing there isnt really much new in it

jaso2005 said:
tbh as no one is raving about anything in 6.1 im guessing there isnt really much new in it
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there is a .1 after the 6...thats new

iPhone SMS

hey not sure if you've guys have seen what apple have done with their iphone SMS, but i'm in love with that. does anyone know if theres an app that does something similar? i mean right now all my SMS's are just randomly organized by date, would love something where your given a 'instant messenger' kind of approach.

You're a senior member, you should know to search. There is a threaded sms cab here that works - I prefer to use the native Inbox application and will wait until 6.1 cooked which has threaded capabilities.
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379 has picture, step-by-step guide on how to get it working, I would recommend MOVING poutlook instead of deleting it.

is windows 6.1 release date still in april? was hoping they'd release something soon.

h4waii said:
You're a senior member, you should know to search. There is a threaded sms cab here that works - I prefer to use the native Inbox application and will wait until 6.1 cooked which has threaded capabilities.
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=139379 has picture, step-by-step guide on how to get it working, I would recommend MOVING poutlook instead of deleting it.
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Does this work with the Vox (since it is for PPC)? Did anyone try it?

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Does this work with the Vox (since it is for PPC)? Did anyone try it?
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i tried it, didnt' work for me....
when i started this thread i was hoping to find something that will organise the SMS in this fashion:
http://www.iphon.fr/public/periode2/iphone-sms.jpg
does anyone actually know if there is an app out there that does this?

I have used it with the Vox, it's not very stable and key presses do not match up properly, thus I don't use it.
There is no application that will do what you have posted in your screen shot. Wait until 6.1 is released out and perhaps it can be pulled out of the ROM and retro fitted.

ya thats what i'm hoping for. is the release date for 6.1 still april? or have they announced an earlier date?

There is an application and is called Extreme Text here is the link
"Extreme Text is the premier Threaded SMS Texting application. It allows you to view all of your Texts as separate conversations for each contact you SMS, much like an Instant Message Conversation. It also adds great features including emoticons, following links in the text, User Defined Text Support, Photo Contact Support, and more..."

matrix77 said:
There is an application and is called Extreme Text here is the link
"Extreme Text is the premier Threaded SMS Texting application. It allows you to view all of your Texts as separate conversations for each contact you SMS, much like an Instant Message Conversation. It also adds great features including emoticons, following links in the text, User Defined Text Support, Photo Contact Support, and more..."
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ya thats what i'm looking for, but 15 bucks is a hefty price for a small app like that. I just read that WM6.1 will incoporate the iphone sms bubble 'chat' layout,just wondering when the release date for an official release is expected

The PPC guys have already began cooking 6.1 rom from a leaked Kaiser upgrade. We just have to wait for a smartphone upgrade and then we should be able to adapt it to the Vox

SMS/MMS

Hi,
Is there any sms/mms app for polaris that is like the iphone's one? or similar atleast.
Thank you.

You want threaded view, or just an iCrap look in general?

To tell you the truth I have no idea what is a 'threaded view'. I just need one which I can see both sent and received messages and have a touch interface so it can be comfortable to be used with my thumb.
Can you help?

The threaded view is basically is the same as forum threads, or like chats... do you use gmail? If you do, than there isn't a better example...
There's a program for that, but WM 6.1 uses it as default, so I think it's better to upgrade it...
About the usability... am I the only one who can use it whith a thumb? (if you wan't i can make a video for proof)

Well.. Yes, i need a threaded view application.
Isn't there any third party application with a threaded view.
If you know any please do tell

There should be CAB file lurking around the forum, check in development... or just do a google search... something is bound to turn up...
BTW, I don't recomend 3rd party apps for things like this... they only take space, and program memory... also I don't like overlays for existing programs...

I've been searching for a cab file with the wm 6.1 threaded SMS app for the Polaris and haven't been able to find one anywhere. I've tried third party apps for threaded SMS and they all have their floors - if I don't find a cab I might get tempted to just flash mine with a WM6.1 rom...

Marking Mail as Read

Anyone able to think of a way to have it so that messages would be marked as read when previewed in TF3D (similar to text messages)? Sometimes I've already read an email, or it's short, or it's not something I care about and would rather not have to open the message to mark it as read.
Thanks.

use flex mail it is much better than the standard outlook and you can mark mail's sms's as read or unread...you'll never go back to outlook again

I've actually heard good things about FlexMail before. My only concern is that I really do like TF3D, can FlexMail replace Outlook for the mail tab and still work with the fancy (lol) previews and such?

you can try Samapa programe to change the default tmail.exe to flexmail i never tried it..but i tried and changed successfuly the all contacts soft key in touch flo to open icontact and the calender button on the home tab to thumbcal ..so try it and let me know what happens

I'm sorry... Samapa? Google'd to no avail (well, as far as phone-relevant things go).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777

I think I am going to chicken out and not try it. Other than sounding a bit complicated (maybe just because I am a noob on my first WInMo device), but I also don't see anything where it would be able to maintain the preview functionality (and allow that preview to mark the message as read, which is my actual "issue" or whatever).
Thanks though!

I'd also love to be able to mark emails as read from the TouchFlo preview pane, without opening up the mail app (whether that's Outlook or something else). I do like the idea of the preview, but it would make a significant difference if I could use it to mark unimportant and short emails as read in one step.
Anyone?

outlook messaging viewer always starting at bottom of page

Hi,
Every time I open a new email or sms message, outlook jumps to the end of page. Very annoying, and I did not remember what I changed, 2 weeks before it was OK, started reading at beginning if the texts, normally.
Anybody have seen this symptom?
Regards.,
LJ

are you using threaded view for sms?

Helo,
as I know, I using the normal , not the threaded view.
I played with tweaks2k, maybe it is a side effect of a registry setting..
Regards.,
LJ

Found: PIE smooth scrolling registry setting change the behaviour of outlook.