AT&T Tilt WM6.1 Backlight Hotfix - General Questions and Answers

HTC has released a hotfix that will fix the annoying backlight issue on AT&T Tilt (a.k.a. Kaiser) phones running WM 6.1, whereby the backlight won't listen to user settings, and just shuts off when it wants to. Unfortunately, it is listed as being only for the Tilt. I'm not exactly sure if other phones even have the backlight issue; if someone has a phone with the backlight issue that is not a Kaiser, you might want to test it out anyway. I do not have nearly the level of knowledge as a hardcore techie or a developer, nor will I pretend to, but my intuition tells me it should work. Anyway, Kaiser-users rejoice!

Dont use on xperia
Tried this on xperia x1 with wm6.5 rom. it fixed the timer resetting but now when the back light goes off it will not come back on, at that point you have about 30 sec before the screen stops responding to touch, then a few more before a complete freeze. pull out battery and all is good till you let the back light die again.

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[WM6] Wierd joystick problems

It's actually an older problem.
The joystick on SPV C600 with any non AKU 2.0 Orange rom just doesn't work as it should.
In WM5 and say.. a rom from I-Mate the joystick still works.. very bad.. but it still works.
In WM6 it's like almost completely dead (tried all the current cooked roms)
One stupid thing that I found is that actually pressing and holding a random key makes the joystick work.
Yup.. holding 6 or 2 or VOLUME DOWN actually makes the joystick work. What the?!
Has anyone encountered this problem?
on1x1 said:
It's actually an older problem.
The joystick on SPV C600 with any non AKU 2.0 Orange rom just doesn't work as it should.
In WM5 and say.. a rom from I-Mate the joystick still works.. very bad.. but it still works.
In WM6 it's like almost completely dead (tried all the current cooked roms)
One stupid thing that I found is that actually pressing and holding a random key makes the joystick work.
Yup.. holding 6 or 2 or VOLUME DOWN actually makes the joystick work. What the?!
Has anyone encountered this problem?
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I have the exact same problem. With the original C600 ROM from Orange, teh joystick will work. I tried several WM6 rom and Joystick is performing like yours. Cannot move up, hradly move down, but pressing the volume or any other key while moving the joystick will make it work perfectly.
Like you, I am at loss. Anyone has a clue on this behavior and how to fix it?
I have already observed this problem in this thread.
If someone ever bothers to reply to it, we may have a solution.
Wow, thanks - i thought my joystick is almost dead, as it sometimes takes like 3-4 moves to one direction for system to actually recognize one keypress of joystick, if the problem is only caused by softwware, there is still chance! (as the tornado is practically unrepairable in my country )
keff said:
Wow, thanks - i thought my joystick is almost dead, as it sometimes takes like 3-4 moves to one direction for system to actually recognize one keypress of joystick, if the problem is only caused by softwware, there is still chance! (as the tornado is practically unrepairable in my country )
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tilt & spray the joystick with deodorant (i've used denim )
Hi there DSF, I know about that fix for the hardware failure of the joystick but we're talking here about a faulty software.
Joystick failure related to software
In my case, the joystick problem is not a hardware failure
How do I know that? Simple:
I installed the original C600 Orange ROM and have no problem with the joystick. I then try back any of the WM6 out there and unfortunately, on all of them, my joystick will have issues. I even extracted the Keyboard.dll from the Orange Rom and incorporated in one of the WM6 rom but it did not fix the problem.
Is there more than one Joystick file that needs to be copied?
What is strange (and as stated in the first posting) pressing other button while moving the joystick will work fine
In the meantime, I reverted back to the original Orange Rom.
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
There was a Tornado ROM out for a really brief period that I read had the ability to tweak the keypad timeout, but I can't find it for download.
Exitao said:
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
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Wow, I have just tried turning Light sensor off (settings-power management), and it seems to do miracles so far - joy works as new (on WM6 V4 from this forum)!
EDIT 2 hours later... it doesn't anymore at least i know it's because of software... Seems to be connected with keyboard power management.
keff said:
Wow, I have just tried turning Light sensor off (settings-power management), and it seems to do miracles so far - joy works as new (on WM6 V4 from this forum)!
EDIT 2 hours later... it doesn't anymore at least i know it's because of software... Seems to be connected with keyboard power management.
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Yes.
For some reason, my keypad backlight has stopped turning on. And the stick gives me no problem at all now.
No idea how that happened. But I'm fine with that.
Still having Joystick issues
It seems that very few of us are having that joystick issue. I tried the backlight trick, which did not help. There is definitely a driver issue with a combination of hardware. However, even if I try the Keyboard.dll from the original rom and cook a rom with it, I am having that issue.
My question is: does anyone know what other drivers will need to be extracted from the original C600 Rom and cooked on the WM6 to make the joystick behave as it should?
Thank you
I've the same problem.
WM6 v.3.4
Same problem as i have ....but if i press the volume button it seems to b working just fine ...
Exitao said:
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
There was a Tornado ROM out for a really brief period that I read had the ability to tweak the keypad timeout, but I can't find it for download.
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Not sure about some of the other cooks (I'm using vjgrace's 3.4) but on mine it's:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/KEYPAD/KB_LIGHT_TIMEOUT
It's in milliseconds - roughly. I set my display timeout to 30 seconds and the keypad light timeout for 30,000 milliseconds (30 seconds) and the keypad turned off just before the display. Keypad timeout at 30,069 milliseconds turns the keypad off at the same moment that the display dims.
That was way off topic, but if editing the keypad timeout helps fix the joystick problem, that's how to do it.
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Not sure about some of the other cooks (I'm using vjgrace's 3.4) but on mine it's:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/KEYPAD/KB_LIGHT_TIMEOUT
It's in milliseconds - roughly. I set my display timeout to 30 seconds and the keypad light timeout for 30,000 milliseconds (30 seconds) and the keypad turned off just before the display. Keypad timeout at 30,069 milliseconds turns the keypad off at the same moment that the display dims.
That was way off topic, but if editing the keypad timeout helps fix the joystick problem, that's how to do it.
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If it is a fix, I don't see how it's off-topic at all. It's bang-on. I'll experiment w/this over the weekend and see how it goes. Thanks.
seeing this with 3.4 rom from vj and cingular 2125. I can move down/right pretty easily with joystick. However, up/left are sticky. Sometimes they don't respond and you have to try a few times. Really kills usability of the phone on WM6, feels slow and clunky.
I've changed it to 60,000
I'll report back later.
So, I got fed up with joystick problem, and ordered a new keyboard part form ebay - here for $20: ebay link
Should arrive in a week or two, will write how it worked (i expect joystick to work as new after that )
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seeing this with 3.4 rom from vj and cingular 2125. I can move down/right pretty easily with joystick. However, up/left are sticky. Sometimes they don't respond and you have to try a few times. Really kills usability of the phone on WM6, feels slow and clunky.
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Mine too, maybe nitro will have that fixed with his new build
HHHRRR. Yesterday i have bought my third HTC Tornado. Today i have installed the WM6, and found, that joystic doesnt work when trying to get to the top, or left.. Now i've found this thread, and tryed to move joystick while holding the "6" or "2" - then it works fine! Guys, dont want to roll back to the original ROM..

Peculiar backlight problem asus p535 help

Hello
I have Asus p535 Recently I have changed my PDA motherboard due to some problems. While doing That Asus gave me a free upgrade to WM6
Now after 2 months I have a peculiar probleem
My backlight does not turn up when I press the active button. Sometiomes it just flickers . Most of the time it does not turn up and I cannot use the phone
However the backlight turns on when I get an incoming call. Like wise when I do hard reset or soft rset it turns un until the windows mobile logo and goes off as soon as the Today screen turns up.
Sometimes like a mind of its own. The backlight will turn turn up normally and I can use my phone. Nowadays I have disabled turning backlight off and use the HOLD buttom to turn it off so once it turns on it remains on. However the problem still remains
To summarize in few lines
1>Backlight turns on when hard reset and reamijs till WINDOWS MOBILE logo appears and dims and turns off as soon as today screen is loaded
2>The backlight wont tuirn on with any input . Sometimes it just flickrs on and off
3<When i receive incoming call the backlight turns on and works normally
4>sometimes the backlight after flickering may turn on and the phone works perfectely for 3-4 days
I want yo ask few questions
1>Is this a hardware problem as i suppose it isnt coz phone works fine with incoming calls
2>If its a software problem is it BIOS related
3>If its software related do I need to reinstall WM6 and upgrade/ downgrade BIOS
4>Is this battery realted. however my battery does not drain fast inspite of it being 1300mah
5>My warranty is expired so any thing which can solve my problem with self help is appreciated
6> Should i upgrade to 6.1 or android as explained by some in these forums as i personally feel my problem to be wm6 related as many have complained of lock screens
DETAILS
Model: Asus p535
rom date : 2007/8/9
rom version: v4.7.12 WWE_AU00
boot version: 070416122657
battery version 1.3
MP version: V0.164
Radio version :v.4.8.0
OS WM6
Any help appreciated
Dissemble the pda and take LCD in your hand.
turn back the lcd and heat up the 2 way on the right side.
4 way is touch screen and 2 ways on the very right are lcd light.

Black screen of death

The other day, I hit the power button on my touch pro, and the screen didn't come on. I did a soft reset, and it started working again. Now today, the same thing is happening, but a soft reset isn't helping.
The screen's back light comes on, the LEDs on the buttons come on, and the phone seems to be working fine. I hear all the sounds, including the HTC sound while it is booting, and the new message sound, but the screen stays black. It still recognizes touches, it just doesn't show an image. I want to do a hard reset, and will if I can get it to come one one more time, but its been about a month since I backed up my contact list. Lesson learnt there. I'm afraid it might be a hardware problem since I don't see anything while its booting either.
Anyone know if this is a known hardware issue with the touch pro? The phone is less then 3 months old, and I've been real careful with it. I haven't dropped it from more then 2 feet, and even that was onto carpet. Its the Verizon version if that makes a difference, and I'm running one of the NFSFAN roms. Its not the newest one, but rather the one posted on October 19th. I doubt its the rom, though, as I've been using it for around 2 months with no issues.
EDIT: Ok, I went into the bootloader to see if it was hardware of software. I figured if it was hardware, the screen would be black, and if it was software, it would be the rainbow. Sure enough, the screen stayed black. Hit the reset button, and the screen actually came on! Go figure. Went to do a backup, and the screen literally crapped out on me while I was watching it. Definitely a hardware problem.
similar with Touch HD... kinda
I've been having a similar problem with my Touch HD. The problem is very intermittent though and is sometimes hard to reproduce. The screen and phone will be working fine then once in a while when I push the power button to lock the phone, I'll unlock it and the screen stays black. I know that the phone is still on and even unlocked because pushing the buttons at the bottom makes the phone vibrate. The only consistency in reproducing the problem happens after I do something major on the phone such as making a phone call, browsing the internet, sometimes charging the phone. Other than that, I can sit here and push the power button all day and it'll come on and off with no problems. When the screen does go black I've taken the battery out repeatedly as well as repeatedly rebooted the phone until it comes back on. I've tried doing hard and soft resets to no avail. I've tried deactivating "turn off backlight if device is not used for" and "turn off device if not used for" without any resolve. After this I've even left the screen on (disabled backlight off) to see if it flickers or shows any sign of being faulty and it seems to be fine. I'm currently on Dutty's HD WM 6.5 Leo R5 WWE rom, but this has happened with two other roms (NRG, LIA). Other info include:
OS: 5.2.23016
Manila: 2.519192828.0
Radio: 1.14.25.24
Protocol: 52.64.25.34H
I guess the only consistent software has been my radio. Please help! Any advice would be awesome. I've tried google search and xda search without much help. Thanks

Odd Navicap Issue .....

today i noticed an odd issue with the lights on the navicap on my TP, When the screen switches off the lights on the navicap stay illuminated (The home, back, answer and hangup buttons) the light round the dpad/scroll wheel dont light up tho, i dont know how long this has been going on though as i have only just noticed it
does anyone know why this mite happen or any ideas to solve it
cheers
I also can confirm this issue.
Seems to happen only when the light has been activated in landcape mode.
I can recreate this failure every time I reply to a SMS:
Slide open keyboard
Keyboard and navipad lights come on
Reply to sms
Press power button
...and tada! The light is stuck on
The light will go off if I press the center dpad button before I turn off the device, or if I turn back on the device and tap the button.
This problem has followed me through 3 ROMs: the stock ATT Fuze ROM, the new ATT ROM, and an older EnergyROM (8/11/09, not sure which version anymore).
I can also confirm that this problem exists across multiple phones running stock software. My first Fuze had this problem, my current Fuze has this problem, and my friend's Fuze does too. Very odd.
Not a showstopper, but I figure it's the only annoyance I really have to put up with day to day, now that I've got the phone configured the way I like it.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

White Screen Problem - HTC TyTN II

Hello everyone,
My secondary phone is a HTC TyTN II. It's running Shifu V4.3 Windows 6.5 Custom ROM with Hard-SPL 3.49 and Radio Version 1.70.19.09. Recently, my phone's screen turned white and didn't go no matter how many times I soft-reset or hard-reset it . It happens when the phone is idle for long periods of time, like perhaps 3-4 hours. It also happens when I download 2-3 apps simultaneously from Windows Marketplace. When I do so, random multi-coloured lines appear all over the screen and then it turns completely white. I still hear the sounds when I slide out the keyboard or when I tap on the screen. Could someone please help me out? I really love this phone and I don't want to leave it in this state. I tried searching the forums for anything related to this, but unfortunately, couldn't find any thread or post that was helpful
Thanks alot for any help or advice you guys offer .
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