It's actually an older problem.
The joystick on SPV C600 with any non AKU 2.0 Orange rom just doesn't work as it should.
In WM5 and say.. a rom from I-Mate the joystick still works.. very bad.. but it still works.
In WM6 it's like almost completely dead (tried all the current cooked roms)
One stupid thing that I found is that actually pressing and holding a random key makes the joystick work.
Yup.. holding 6 or 2 or VOLUME DOWN actually makes the joystick work. What the?!
Has anyone encountered this problem?
on1x1 said:
It's actually an older problem.
The joystick on SPV C600 with any non AKU 2.0 Orange rom just doesn't work as it should.
In WM5 and say.. a rom from I-Mate the joystick still works.. very bad.. but it still works.
In WM6 it's like almost completely dead (tried all the current cooked roms)
One stupid thing that I found is that actually pressing and holding a random key makes the joystick work.
Yup.. holding 6 or 2 or VOLUME DOWN actually makes the joystick work. What the?!
Has anyone encountered this problem?
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I have the exact same problem. With the original C600 ROM from Orange, teh joystick will work. I tried several WM6 rom and Joystick is performing like yours. Cannot move up, hradly move down, but pressing the volume or any other key while moving the joystick will make it work perfectly.
Like you, I am at loss. Anyone has a clue on this behavior and how to fix it?
I have already observed this problem in this thread.
If someone ever bothers to reply to it, we may have a solution.
Wow, thanks - i thought my joystick is almost dead, as it sometimes takes like 3-4 moves to one direction for system to actually recognize one keypress of joystick, if the problem is only caused by softwware, there is still chance! (as the tornado is practically unrepairable in my country )
keff said:
Wow, thanks - i thought my joystick is almost dead, as it sometimes takes like 3-4 moves to one direction for system to actually recognize one keypress of joystick, if the problem is only caused by softwware, there is still chance! (as the tornado is practically unrepairable in my country )
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tilt & spray the joystick with deodorant (i've used denim )
Hi there DSF, I know about that fix for the hardware failure of the joystick but we're talking here about a faulty software.
Joystick failure related to software
In my case, the joystick problem is not a hardware failure
How do I know that? Simple:
I installed the original C600 Orange ROM and have no problem with the joystick. I then try back any of the WM6 out there and unfortunately, on all of them, my joystick will have issues. I even extracted the Keyboard.dll from the Orange Rom and incorporated in one of the WM6 rom but it did not fix the problem.
Is there more than one Joystick file that needs to be copied?
What is strange (and as stated in the first posting) pressing other button while moving the joystick will work fine
In the meantime, I reverted back to the original Orange Rom.
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
There was a Tornado ROM out for a really brief period that I read had the ability to tweak the keypad timeout, but I can't find it for download.
Exitao said:
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
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Wow, I have just tried turning Light sensor off (settings-power management), and it seems to do miracles so far - joy works as new (on WM6 V4 from this forum)!
EDIT 2 hours later... it doesn't anymore at least i know it's because of software... Seems to be connected with keyboard power management.
keff said:
Wow, I have just tried turning Light sensor off (settings-power management), and it seems to do miracles so far - joy works as new (on WM6 V4 from this forum)!
EDIT 2 hours later... it doesn't anymore at least i know it's because of software... Seems to be connected with keyboard power management.
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Yes.
For some reason, my keypad backlight has stopped turning on. And the stick gives me no problem at all now.
No idea how that happened. But I'm fine with that.
Still having Joystick issues
It seems that very few of us are having that joystick issue. I tried the backlight trick, which did not help. There is definitely a driver issue with a combination of hardware. However, even if I try the Keyboard.dll from the original rom and cook a rom with it, I am having that issue.
My question is: does anyone know what other drivers will need to be extracted from the original C600 Rom and cooked on the WM6 to make the joystick behave as it should?
Thank you
I've the same problem.
WM6 v.3.4
Same problem as i have ....but if i press the volume button it seems to b working just fine ...
Exitao said:
My belief is that by adjusting the keypad backlight timeout, this problem could be fixed.
The new joystick driver disables the joystick when the phone is locked, or when the screen shuts down for powersave. I think that the keypad powersave causes this too.
There was a Tornado ROM out for a really brief period that I read had the ability to tweak the keypad timeout, but I can't find it for download.
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Not sure about some of the other cooks (I'm using vjgrace's 3.4) but on mine it's:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/KEYPAD/KB_LIGHT_TIMEOUT
It's in milliseconds - roughly. I set my display timeout to 30 seconds and the keypad light timeout for 30,000 milliseconds (30 seconds) and the keypad turned off just before the display. Keypad timeout at 30,069 milliseconds turns the keypad off at the same moment that the display dims.
That was way off topic, but if editing the keypad timeout helps fix the joystick problem, that's how to do it.
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Not sure about some of the other cooks (I'm using vjgrace's 3.4) but on mine it's:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/KEYPAD/KB_LIGHT_TIMEOUT
It's in milliseconds - roughly. I set my display timeout to 30 seconds and the keypad light timeout for 30,000 milliseconds (30 seconds) and the keypad turned off just before the display. Keypad timeout at 30,069 milliseconds turns the keypad off at the same moment that the display dims.
That was way off topic, but if editing the keypad timeout helps fix the joystick problem, that's how to do it.
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If it is a fix, I don't see how it's off-topic at all. It's bang-on. I'll experiment w/this over the weekend and see how it goes. Thanks.
seeing this with 3.4 rom from vj and cingular 2125. I can move down/right pretty easily with joystick. However, up/left are sticky. Sometimes they don't respond and you have to try a few times. Really kills usability of the phone on WM6, feels slow and clunky.
I've changed it to 60,000
I'll report back later.
So, I got fed up with joystick problem, and ordered a new keyboard part form ebay - here for $20: ebay link
Should arrive in a week or two, will write how it worked (i expect joystick to work as new after that )
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seeing this with 3.4 rom from vj and cingular 2125. I can move down/right pretty easily with joystick. However, up/left are sticky. Sometimes they don't respond and you have to try a few times. Really kills usability of the phone on WM6, feels slow and clunky.
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Mine too, maybe nitro will have that fixed with his new build
HHHRRR. Yesterday i have bought my third HTC Tornado. Today i have installed the WM6, and found, that joystic doesnt work when trying to get to the top, or left.. Now i've found this thread, and tryed to move joystick while holding the "6" or "2" - then it works fine! Guys, dont want to roll back to the original ROM..
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Hi I recently received an xdaII with windows mobile 5 on it.
However the backlight wasn't working, even if I try to hold down the power button.
Also when I try vjeschaton to toggle it on or off (the other functions work) it doesn't work, could the phone be damaged or do I need to re do the rom somehow?
(ie the backlight auto switched off when the battery and backup battery went down but on recharge a bug prevented the light coming on again)
any ideas people?
further problems now, I have tried installing xda II rom Xda_II_172187_Final and its predecessor and unfortunately it wont work, its stuck at the
USB v1.06 message page it seems I have problems updating it, maybe due to vista maybe due to active synch maybe due to something else... any ideas?
Resoved the 1.06 Problem, looked like it was a vista/versioning problem with activesynch
But the backlight is STILL NOT WORKING!
I know the light function is being selected because the other buttons light up, just not the backlight for the LCD
anyone got any ideas?
sounds like the lcd backlight "lamp" died to me
Hi all,
I read through a lot of threads and downloaded tons of ROMS for my TyTN II. Most of them were from dutty's or no thrills. Problem however is that everything seems to work, it is also very fast.
However after a while my (hardware) keyboard and also the buttons (e.g. sliding wheel and keypad on the front) does not respond anymore. When I click any of the hardware buttons the light goes on so it does react on the buttons, however it just doesn't do anything...
Did anyone else experience this issue? I will no try to switch back to the original HTC rom (6.0) since I have no choice but if anyone knows how to fix this?
P.S. I just noticed that all my buttons do not work, it is no hardware issue since It does work after a hard reset, might be caused by incompatible applications? (e.g. SPB phone or SPB theme)
Kind Regards,
Nico van der Linden
If a hard reset fixes your problem each time, then it sounds to me like a bad flash. I would try reflashing the ROM you are currently running. Make sure to hard reset immediately after the flash also.
ok thanks, I'll try to download the ROM flash again , and perform an hard reset directly after the flash. Hopefully this times the ROM update will go better.
Regards,
Nico...
Just my 0.02$:
I think this is related either to WM6.1 builds or to a hack/fix/setting that most custom ROMs use.
I flashed Dutty's Apr 01 ROM and i had this issue. Then i flashed Mobile Vista 1.3 and it happens again . So it's not present in just one ROM, or just in ROMs cooked by a certain chef.
By "issue" i mean every once in a while the touchscreen stops responding to clicks and the keys stop working (but the keys backlight comes on, so HW seems ok).
During this unusual behaviour i noticed that the device is NOT frozen - BatteryStatus updated it's CPU usage while the keys and touchscreen didn't respond, so only the input stops working, the system is ok.
I have a feeling this is a common issue, but people see it as a freeze, and think their processor is too loaded, and they don't report it.
EDIT: Oh, and i got flamed and ignored whan i reported this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385080
EDIT2: I have a feeling this will get a lot of attention soon, just like the time i noticed the Tytn II is underperforming, and the fact that's it's missing 3D HW support
RPG0 said:
By "issue" i mean every once in a while the touchscreen stops responding to clicks and the keys stop working (but the keys backlight comes on, so HW seems ok).
During this unusual behaviour i noticed that the device is NOT frozen - BatteryStatus updated it's CPU usage while the keys and touchscreen didn't respond, so only the input stops working, the system is ok.
I have a feeling this is a common issue, but people see it as a freeze, and think their processor is too loaded, and they don't report it.
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The quickest way to get out of that situation is turn off the backlight and turn it back on again, aka power button...and your screen will work again.
Also I noticed that if I flash the radio again my screen taping problems go away.
Also sometimes flashing to the original shipped ROM and then flashing back to a WM6.1 ROM also works.
Well I do not have an problem with the touch screen, this always keeps working (although the device does get VERY slow sometimes) . 'Only' my hardware buttons do not work anymore (including the hardware keyboard). It is strange that it does work after a hard reset or an install of another ROM. However, also then it stops working after half a day or so.
It might occur as soon as I change the hardware button assignment but I am not sure about this yet.
However, if anyone knows a ROM where this does not occur (e.g. an original HTC WM6.0 ROM dutch or english) then please let me know which one. I just want a working Tytn II back and I do not care anymore which version .
Kind Regards,
Nico...
Ah by the way, when this problem occurs it does not go away anymore when I turn of the device. I also tried removing SIM, memory card and battery but after it is started again the problem remains. Only a hard reset solves it....
But I am a bit confused? Is there nobody else who get these issues???
yeah...
i can confirm all of your bug...
with Vega R8 italian ROM from UDK
question
not all the keys on my htc s710's keyboard are working all the time. for instance the dot, the letter b and letter k do not always work. strangely enough, sometimes all the keys work for a while, and then for no apparent reason the same keys do not work anymore (always the same keys) i tried several roms, with all the problem exist. when i do a cold restart, and try the keys most of the times the will work for a while, but after a while they stop working. same if the power drops (battery drops below a certain percentage), the problem is more persistent and the keys fail more often than with a fully charged battery. i already checked the connection cable on the mainboard, that appears to be seated fine.
any idea's and suggestion (no warranty off course, since i opened it up myself)
Not working
Ive got same problem here.
Cap/Sft and fn isnt working in text message mode.
they work in home screen though..
Please help us out!!
thats why i dont open my phone ...
anyway... if u think u are good with hardware and breaking things apart an take them back together... u can try the htc vox service manual...
i dont recommend anything...
but here it is
http://www.maritime-billeder.dk/uploads/file/VOX_SM_A01 _GENERIC_.pdf
read before u do anything and remember if something dont work, stop, think.. DONT use violence
oh.... opening the phone works in the case some buttons dont work anywhere... otherwise its software.. maybe hard reset, reflashing?
Its definately not hardware.
Because when I Updated from orginall Vodafone Rom to WM 6.1 the keyboard started to decline.
So does someone has a solution for this?
I dont have much knowledge of this, but managed to update my HTC S710 to WM 6.1.
(sorry for my english)
today i noticed an odd issue with the lights on the navicap on my TP, When the screen switches off the lights on the navicap stay illuminated (The home, back, answer and hangup buttons) the light round the dpad/scroll wheel dont light up tho, i dont know how long this has been going on though as i have only just noticed it
does anyone know why this mite happen or any ideas to solve it
cheers
I also can confirm this issue.
Seems to happen only when the light has been activated in landcape mode.
I can recreate this failure every time I reply to a SMS:
Slide open keyboard
Keyboard and navipad lights come on
Reply to sms
Press power button
...and tada! The light is stuck on
The light will go off if I press the center dpad button before I turn off the device, or if I turn back on the device and tap the button.
This problem has followed me through 3 ROMs: the stock ATT Fuze ROM, the new ATT ROM, and an older EnergyROM (8/11/09, not sure which version anymore).
I can also confirm that this problem exists across multiple phones running stock software. My first Fuze had this problem, my current Fuze has this problem, and my friend's Fuze does too. Very odd.
Not a showstopper, but I figure it's the only annoyance I really have to put up with day to day, now that I've got the phone configured the way I like it.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Please read these threeds:
1. HTC Touch Diamond 2 and Standby of Death SOD
2. Sleep of Death (SOD)
3. [REF] "LOCKUP" issue on HD
My last post in above threads if you dont want to read all:
One more interesting thing!!!
I did not read anywhere this, when I expirience SOD and constantly pressing power then home than power again, repeat that three steps few times, screen comes on and I have up side down picture of everything but not touch just lcd.
If anybody understand me. Touch reacts as normal orientation but lcd displays up side down picture - manila tabs are up but when I swipe finger down they react in reverse if I swipe to right tabs going left
Then I again press power button to go to standby and again to wake device and then it is normal everything works.
I repeated this 4 times.
This would mean that SOD is caused by graphics driver ???
Is anybody reading this ???
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Device is Touch HD T8282 from Orange, bought in London if it means something.
Kwbr_Topix_3.6_Sense2.5_WM6.5_no_htcMsg
OS Version : 5.2.21901 (21901.5.0.92)
Manila version : 2.5.20121225.0
ROM version : kwbr topix 3.6 WWE
ROM date : 04/08/10
Radio version : 1.17.25.09
Protocol version : 52.69.25.37U
I read it but don't know what it's about
Thanks for reading, SOD you dont know, or cause of sod ?
Lucky you, I wish you to never have one on your devices
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I maby solved my SOD with this:
Cab to remove Neo's Driver Pack.http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=261582&d=1262082158
Last night I nistalled this, and til now no SOD
I will report back later.
If I am right SOD on all devices is caused by graphics driver startup or resume after standby, result is black screen but device is working.
Hm it is till now, half solved
device did not gone to SOD until I charged it for 15 minutes on usb of my laptop.
Then screen was dimmed and after soft reset it did not turn on, until I removed battery once.
Now it works without SOD, everything is normal but I will try charging again later to see is it going to repeat dimming.
i'm so tired of this piece of ****...
i just wanna know if it is hardware so i can get it over with it...
i try lots of roms, even get back to original rom and radio, task 29, this Mikenificent BlackStone TestDrivers.cab, that mnet_blackstone_stock_3d_driver.cab...nothing...
SOD did not happened when connected to PC via USB...
P.S.
SOD doesn't happened when connected to pc via USB cable, even when power button is pressed and screen is off...
when turn on, no problem....
"Device is Touch HD T8282 from Orange, bought in London if it means something."
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Coincidence or not? my device is also Touch HD T8282 from Orange UK
I sold my device, hmmm it is strange thtat 2 devices bought from Orange in London have same problem.