I am running build 19965.1.2.3 which is the stock OEM O2 for the XDA Serra
Now i have noticed at times the Serra can be a bit slow, i have done the tweeks to speed up manilia which seems to have helped, but i still have issues.
When i go to write a SMS and add a contact to it i notice that it take take a second or 2 to to look up a contact when typing it in.
I ahve also found the keyboard sometimes does not type, by this i mean i press a button and sometimes it does not do it on the screen.
Othertimes its just so slow, i type a sentance and the phones still catching up!
How can i solve this? Would a cooked rom help me, if so what one? I want to try and keep as close to stock as possible, only because i sometimes dont want half the stuff added to other roms
Hi and welcome to the forums.
Almost certainly a custom rom would help you - and if you dont want one with loads of "stuff" lots of the roms come in a variety of builds, so you can choose a "lite" one.
As for which is best.... its an impossible question. Personally i dislike manilla and so i have a rom which doesnt include it. I tried a few and have found i like ROMeOS - Monx has taken his roms off XDA and has his own site now (cant link as it breaches forum rules, but if you google monx romeos you'll find his site).
That said there are loads of other roms about - the only way to find which you like, is to try them! - remember to read everything, then read it again, and then when you're ready to flash your device, read it all again before you start - that way you wont brick your phone.
Hope it helps - and welcome to the joys of flashing!
I have a xda serra too, i found the same as you, it was slow, would usually crash sliding out the keyboard and various other niggles. After having a diamond i was a bit disapointed.
I flashed mine to the latest official htc firmware from following the guides in the rom section, hard-spl and downloading the rom.
Works great now and very happy. Not tried any other roms so cant comment there.
Thats my experience anyway.
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How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
zagan said:
How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
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I have been using dutty's roms for several months now. I have not experienced any of these issues. The last time my phone lagged was about a month ago when i switched from Opera>Camera. It paused for about 30 seconds which wasn't a big deal at all.
You need to be careful what programs you are installing onto the Kaiser and what roms you are downloading. A lot of applications and some programs that are on the roms aren't necessarily for 6.1roms or the device to begin with.
I noticed my phone has issues when I install cubes. So I tend to stay away from cubes when Im using htchcustomizer.
But overall, his roms are great and if you have been using the roms you should know what to expect. You need to troubleshoot your issues by yourself because we don't know what rom you have because you never specified, what applications you have installed, which you've narrowed down to create these problems rather than blaming it on the rom itself.
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Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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yes yes yes
mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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I gave it a try to see what the result would be when using this rom.
I havn't looked at this forum heaps but seems to me that this rom is released quite a lot, and I'm wondering if that's due to problems over time or simply trying to release roms with something that's simply new to a rom or program.
The rom is DualTouch v6 WWE 03/06/2008
Radio: 1.58.25.14
protocol: 25.69.30.05H
For me, I have found this rom to be a bit flaky myself, lacking in a number of areas and the default programs I find limit the usefulness of the phone and slow me down compared to the orginal rom, and now the MS core program simply lock up at different times even after re-boots.
I'll re-flash the rom sometime soon, with probably a different rom I seen another decent rom on here but had too much video player/MP3 player type programs, in it and the office had been ripped out of the phone.
I would rather sus out making my own rom, so I can drop in programs that I think help to speed up using the phone and offer much better options for surfing the net and handling videos than from what I've seen so far.
I use my phone a lot of surfing the net and managing data that I have rather than using it for games or movies as such, music is ok but I have an A1000 as well and that's stero and I'd rather that for music also UIQ is a much better OS than WM but what can you do hey.
Then Get In The Kitchen And Cook Your Own
you could have a virus they are computers after all i would tyr flashing the rom again ......
Mods please close this useless thread, it should be in the respected version thread if anything.
posting under the thread related to the rom will help you avoid getting flammed or being responded to rudely. As far as Dutty's roms go i haven't had problems while using his roms .. and just like p1tater said if you don't like the way Dutty has built the rom than get in the kitchen and cook a rom yourself .
Hi Guys, took the plunge and installed the HTC wm6.1 update on my 3month old UK Orange Branded Tytn.
TBH it was ok before - but i just wanted to see if it would be any quicker and fancied the threaded SMS as i used it on my n95 and it was easier to keep track of conversations. First problem was it would not run HardSPL and i got the white screen problem that i cured by following these instructions..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I have been now able to install the new rom okay, BUT it is as slow as hell (I thought the orange firmware was bad lol) seems to be ok then it just jams - sometimes for a good few seconds. bit of a pain. The keyboard Touch screen and any buttons dont do anything, sometimes for up to 30s, then it all catches up with all the buttons iv pressed during the freeze ect being actioned, a nightmare.
I tried one of Duttys ROMS (Must say im very impressed with his work!!!) BUT Same problem as before the thing just freezes for a few seconds (doesnt crash - just freezes) its a pain trying to browse or send tst messages.
Have I done anything wrong in the upgrade, or is it "Orange care time"?
did u remember to hard reset ur device after flash?
Thanks for the reply,
I just ran the JumpSPL program then ran the rom exe file(S) The thing is fine, just as slow as hell - having to resort to my old n95 now ;-(
I didnt do a hard reset after i updated the rom, just activsync`d it and set it up
do a hard reset it should improve your rom spead. Some times when you flash a new rom and don't do hard reset files of the old rom are still on device and cause conflicts with the new rom that is why a hard reset is almost highly recommended after a rom flash.
Don't forget to back up your contacts,messages,documents on device as a hard reset will erase everything except spl, os, rom, radio.
good luck
ill give that a try, thanks
Can you let us know what ROM's you're running.
I'm on Orange (UK) and mine is much faster than the stock ROM now.
Do you have any other software running on it ? SPB Mobile Shell sometimes slows things down ...
Read my signature for the ROM's I'm using on the Orange Tytn II.
hi,
Where did you download the ROM from? The one from the HTC website only gives me the option to download Norwegian version....any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT I've jst downloaded RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship - Is that the ROM you used?
Just flashed my HTC TyTN II Orange, with the above ROM & everything is O.K at the moment, woo. lol
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
Tried doing a hard reset as suggested and im not running any other apps. Iv reflashed a couple of times today and both are still causing the same symptoms - touch screen suddenly not as responsive then the tytn freezes completely for a few secs, then its fine for a while.
speedbird said:
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
I've flashed my Orange Tytn2 and a friends without issue using the 'official' 6.1 rom that was posted on Modaco.
I didn't hard reset afterwards and both units are working fine. Maybe try flashing your device on a different pc?
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM, and that i had also tried duttys rom (I was very impressed with it), If you read my posting i think you will realise i simply commented it was showing they SAME symptoms on my phone. My problem was NOT with duttys rom (btw i DID notice the word test in its name before i loaded it, but thanks for pointing that out), I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
"Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
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speedbird said:
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM......... I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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What are the symptoms ?
Have you added any other Software (i.e. programs or cabs) ?
Has the device got slower over time ?
What challenges are you having with problems with the flashing process ?
Are you using a screen protector as this reduces the touch sensitivity ?
Im not running any other programs or screen protector, the thing is fine for a minute or so then starts to slow down and reaches the point where nothing will happen and it locks up (for what feels like ages) prob about 30-43secs but its enough to cause grief if ur trying to send a txt with it or browse. Then it comes back to life and is fine again for a while, also getting a few error msgs saying that CProg has problems - (on all the 6.1 roms iv tried).
i have tried several roms (inc stock roms) and although i have read postings in modoco about the new 6.1 rom making the machine unresponsive this takes the biscuit, i thought my old n95 was bugridden when i first got it ;-(
There's a thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062 that tells of a similar tale, it might be worth a read.
Some of the issues are with the ROM and poor touch sensitivity making the unit appear to slow down.
If you have nothing to lose, overwrite your ROM's with the ones in my signature, they're on the forum and I know they're quick, and I'm on Orange, so its a good benchmark.
If you are still experiencing similar problems, then I would suggest you update the phone with the original stuff and tell Orange Care that they have a duff handset and you want it replacing.
i will give it a try, thanks ;-)
First, my apologies for dropping this thread on a bad note. I have been away from the XDA community for a few months and have returned to see a LOT of development. However, it seems every new ROM I have tried has some issue. Don't get me wrong, the Manila interface is beautiful but I actually use my phone and the 10 second landscape/portrait transition is not for me and I would rather have everything working on my home screen. I am extremely grateful for all of the work people have put into developing these new roms, in posting this it is not my intent to criticize. My previous ROM was one of Dutty's finals and it worked flawlessly. So my question to you all, what is the most stable and functional ROM available?
If you're problem is mainly Manilla aka TouchFlo, than there are plunty of roms that have lite versions without it. Also, it can be disabled. Go to Start Menu\Settings\Personal Tab\Today\Items Tab and uncheck TouchFlo. You stated Dutty's was you last ROM. So, looks for one that has HTC Home Plugin as well as Manilla so you can enable that afterwards. Flash away till you find one. Otherwise check out Anryl's or Josh's ROM as they use Titanium, which fully supports Landscape while Manilla does not (well not fully anyway).
Much appreciated. I landed on the UltimateX and am pleased so far. I just need some time to adjust with all of these new options available, but it's good to be back!
Seems you would be more happy with clean ROM's, go for Garmin's DK series, they are somewhat flawless, but even then nobody can give you gurantee for that. Good Luck, I tried more than 20ROM's & found this one promising.
Please read the ROM release threads and try some of the ROM's like the two helpful people have done. You'll soon find on that suits you
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Dave
Hello everyone. I’m not new to XDA developers, I have found many helpful threads on various topics that I have came across. However, I am a newbie when it comes to flashing ROMS. I have flashed my Kaiser with a Windows 6.5 ROM, I can’t remember the exact one, but it was supposedly stable on my device. When all was said and done, it booted fine, but came up with some statement saying that “the beta period had expired” or something like that. So I thought, ok I’ll just flash the OEM ROM and browse around until I found one that was right for me. Well that what I did and that when I ran into “problems”. It seems like the touch screen is very unresponsive, even after calibrating it many times. And it also runs rather slow compared to how it used to. I’m not sure if it is some driver issue or what, but as it stands now, I can expect it to freeze for about 15 seconds every 5th time or so that I try to do something. I thought that it may have been a bad flash, so I redid it and got the same results. So I guess I have two questions:
1. What ROM for a Kaiser would you recommend? (I would love it to run as fast as possible and be as beautiful as it could be, hopefully something different looking that the OEM)
2. If I wanted to put the OEM ROM back onto the device, what would be causing it to act like it is?
Thanks for any help/input with this issue, we have the best of the best on these forums, so keep up with the good work.
Before everybody starts screaming at you! LOL
ROM, are ones personal prefrence. So you have keep flashing and reading before you can choose the one that fits your need. The latest ROM's you find here, do not have that time bug.
Happy flashing.
Yes, Please flash roms and find the one that fits you best.. go ahead and go to the Kaiser wiki and grab the oem HTC or ATT rom and restore it back, then happy flashing..
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Joshua
hi ive just managed to root my phone after the 100th time! i have a hero theme on the phone supplied by fatality which is a bit slow for me. Can anybody supply links to some recommended roms please preferably very fast!
cheers guys
edit: forgot to add i have a uk vodafone magic with 32b board. cheers
You can find all roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=493
i have seen those but would like to hear peoples opinions on the roms they have used in their magic and which they recommend
i think you have 32b version.. well yeah hero is slow. i had one i used Cyanogen roms.. its light.
well for 32a i have..i use hero rom.. its not fatality one. i dont know were i got it from. but works gr8. no wifi problems. sync works . everythig is perfect.. sometimes i feel that i am using HTC HERO..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531837
its from here HERO-8
I'm using this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538633
The best one I've tried so far
ok thanks for the replies! these all look good but anybody else have any preferences?
I'm using the same ROM as Malky1903. It's fast and stable and has some nice features. Root access, battery status on the lock screen, cpu overclocker (not really needed though), menu is 5 icons wide rather than 4 icons, and the home screen can be scrolled over 5 screens rather than 3. There are also other small enhancements like the animations (taken from the hero rom) and other tweaks that seem to make it run really nicely.
I've tried 2 Hero ROMs and have given up pretty quickly after both occasions - the 32B Magic just doesn't seem very capable on this ROMs IMHO.
I'm still looking for the perfect ROM but am going to leave it for a while I think. CyanogenMod v3.6.8 is pretty close - just need that Exchange sync to work and I will be very happy! There is some good stuff coming with all the new Donut threads appearing ... but it looks like we could be a few weeks from getting stable builds out of there yet.
There is a list of the available ROMs at the bottom of the sapphire wiki page.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking
Best thing is just to keep reading the forums and try not to get too addicted!
finally went for the following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523971
absolutley brilliant Rom. Best ive tried. so far....
its quick and everything works for me. big thumbs up
(sorry - duplicate post - damn slow internet connection)
(sorry - dupe post - damn interweb connection)
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There is a list of the available ROMs at the bottom of the sapphire wiki page.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking
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I was wondering if there's any mileage in adding to the Wiki somewhere, so that there's a listing for each ROM and its specific feature list. Maybe even some kind of matrix with the common features all listed, and ticks or crosses depending on whether a particular ROM has it or not. For me, Exchange compatibility is absolutely, positively, crucial so there really isn't much point me flashing some of these ROMs to find it's not there. Having to trawl through the ROM's own specific thread on the forum (and often such things are not seen as important by others on the thread, so are not mentioned) to find such info is a real drag.