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Dutty rom testing

How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.

Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!

zagan said:
How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
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I have been using dutty's roms for several months now. I have not experienced any of these issues. The last time my phone lagged was about a month ago when i switched from Opera>Camera. It paused for about 30 seconds which wasn't a big deal at all.
You need to be careful what programs you are installing onto the Kaiser and what roms you are downloading. A lot of applications and some programs that are on the roms aren't necessarily for 6.1roms or the device to begin with.
I noticed my phone has issues when I install cubes. So I tend to stay away from cubes when Im using htchcustomizer.
But overall, his roms are great and if you have been using the roms you should know what to expect. You need to troubleshoot your issues by yourself because we don't know what rom you have because you never specified, what applications you have installed, which you've narrowed down to create these problems rather than blaming it on the rom itself.

mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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yes yes yes

mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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I gave it a try to see what the result would be when using this rom.
I havn't looked at this forum heaps but seems to me that this rom is released quite a lot, and I'm wondering if that's due to problems over time or simply trying to release roms with something that's simply new to a rom or program.
The rom is DualTouch v6 WWE 03/06/2008
Radio: 1.58.25.14
protocol: 25.69.30.05H
For me, I have found this rom to be a bit flaky myself, lacking in a number of areas and the default programs I find limit the usefulness of the phone and slow me down compared to the orginal rom, and now the MS core program simply lock up at different times even after re-boots.
I'll re-flash the rom sometime soon, with probably a different rom I seen another decent rom on here but had too much video player/MP3 player type programs, in it and the office had been ripped out of the phone.
I would rather sus out making my own rom, so I can drop in programs that I think help to speed up using the phone and offer much better options for surfing the net and handling videos than from what I've seen so far.
I use my phone a lot of surfing the net and managing data that I have rather than using it for games or movies as such, music is ok but I have an A1000 as well and that's stero and I'd rather that for music also UIQ is a much better OS than WM but what can you do hey.

Then Get In The Kitchen And Cook Your Own

you could have a virus they are computers after all i would tyr flashing the rom again ......

Mods please close this useless thread, it should be in the respected version thread if anything.

posting under the thread related to the rom will help you avoid getting flammed or being responded to rudely. As far as Dutty's roms go i haven't had problems while using his roms .. and just like p1tater said if you don't like the way Dutty has built the rom than get in the kitchen and cook a rom yourself .

ROM Advice for SPV C600

Hi,
I am really wanting to upgrade my SPV C600 to WinMo6. But first i need advice.
What ROM will keep all of my current working functions, working?? i want to be able to use my phone as i do now, just on WM6.
Also, i would quite like it to look like this IF possible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wv5aeDB6kwY
What are your recommendations?
Keith.

Which ROM?
The video you've been looking at is the standard WM6.1 Home screen. GnatGoSplats WM6.1 Clean ROM uses this interface, and it seems to be a good, stable ROM. Personally though, and this is just a matter of personal preference, I've found that although WM6.1 is the latest, WM6 ROM's tend to work better, be more stable and keep your device running with most if not all of your current 'stuff'.
I'm using SGregory's WM6 with the 'Neo' home screen, which in my opinion is a far better home screen interface than the standard WM6.1 you're talking about - but again, it's just personal preference.
One thing you will find though is that most ROM 'cookers' remove a lot of useless apps which most people never use so you can have more free memory to install the stuff you do use - I think it's called 'user choice'! Rather than Microsoft dictating which software is on your device, you can add the stuff you want and leave all the crap out.
If you're worried about upgrading your ROM because your device won't be the same, don't do it... that's the whole point of upgrading - your device WON'T be the same, it will be BETTER!!

Haha, thanks.
Have you got any screenshots of NEO? Also, could you link to that rom you thought was best and say what i would be losing/gaining?
Also , how easy is it to get it back to stock orange?

All the info you need my friend is right here in this forum. It's too time consuming for anyone to list all the pros and cons of various custom ROM's - just try one, if you don't like it, try another.
If you want to put the original Orange ROM back on (you won't when you've tried a decent ROM), you can download it from Orange website. Just type 'Orange SPV C600 ROM' into Google.

Is it really that easy to put it back as it was? If i did the recovery (hold 2 soft keys) would that not work anymore?
Also, will upgrading the radios not bother it in any way?
And by the orange rom, do you mean the one that adds the push email?

By 'Recovery' I assume you mean hard-reset. If so, no, that won't put it back to how it was. That will just reset all the settings to default and remove any third-party software which you have installed, thus leaving the device in a 'new' state (new, according to the ROM you have installed, not new as in just bought from Orange).
If I were you, I would leave it as it is because you're obviously way too concerned about messing up your device

I dunno about that last part, he's just a newbie. When I first got my Tornado I was scared to death to upgrade from WM5 to WM6 because I was afraid of bricking my phone. But I had a buddy who owns a Wizard watching over my shoulder while I followed the tutorial step-by-step, which was a big confidence-builder. And when it installed perfectly, I had the hang of it, and I've been experimenting occasionally with new ROMs ever since.
Keithoms, as long as you follow Karhoe's tutorial you're golden. And you'll never want to go back to the original ROM again - this I promise you. WM6 and WM6.1 are light years better than WM5. And don't you worry about bricking your phone - you have to seriously screw up the process to do that. Upgrade the radio for better reception, upgrade the ROM for better functionality.
And, I recommend doing like I did: read. Spend some time on this forum and just read threads. Read, read, read. Forums like this are great for getting questions answered, and chances are your question has been asked at least once before, and you're quite likely to find the answer to your question before you need to post it. If you can't find it, post, and we'll answer away. And, as an added bonus, by digging through the forums each day, you're likely to come across questions that you never thought to ask, and answers that fix problems you didn't realize you had.
And, last but not least, ENJOY! I've been in love with Windows Mobile phones ever since I got mine, and the number of things you can do with them are limitless.
Some threads you should read:
Karhoe's WM6 upgrade how-to. It looks like a lot of steps, but it's not really. It goes very fast - if you're SLOW, it might take you 25-30 minutes.
Nitro's WM6 ROM - you can substitute this for the ROM suggested by Karhoe's tutorial without any ill effects at all.
A whole collection of ROMS and software for the Tornado.
Hope this was helpful, and hope you have an awesome day!

Hi, thanks for the replies. For the radio, i was only meaning, would it bother the old orange rom in any way if i decided to go back with the radio still updated.
I am a bit paranoid, but that is only because i bought the phone yesterday and spent all of my money on it.
I have read karhoes guide around 20 times. Giving it a thought, i take it the only way to brick it is to either not SuperCID it before its flashed, to do format BINFS wrongly and to knock out the cables and/or run out of batterys as it is doing GMSUpdate and the actual rom flash.
So if i avoid those things, i should be fine? :S

I'm on nights so I'm moody!
- Perhaps I was a bit short with you to tell you to leave it alone. djsleepwalker is right... if you follow the guide to the letter, you shouldn't have any issues. Even if you do, someone in this forum has the answer you need.
You will never regret upgrading your ROM and you'll never want to put the original Orange ROM back on, that's for sure. I've used Windows Mobiles since 2002 and I've only started messing with ROM's a couple of years ago.. I wish I'd done it sooner. The benefits far outway the risks

Well, i just went ahead and did the full shebang!
I bought a new housing from fluffcat1, fitted that.
Then.... installed GGS's WM6
Uber-Epic romz....
Thanks to all that helped me get through this without any damamamagamage to my phone.

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What about SPL 1.56?

AllTheWay said:
What about SPL 1.56?
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Link me to it and I will try.

bengalih said:
Link me to it and I will try.
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Ok I would try Jockys HardSPL 1.1

Quick question bengalih,
Do you change from portrait to landscape quite often?

kjb86 said:
Quick question bengalih,
Do you change from portrait to landscape quite often?
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In terms of normal usage... not really, but I must admit I have been using my Tilt more for messing around with than actually being productive since I got it
When testing a new ROM I always do alot of mode switch tests as I like to have a quick swap.
However, for purposes of this test, I didn't switch mode at all.

bengalih said:
In terms of normal usage... not really, but I must admit I have been using my Tilt more for messing around with than actually being productive since I got it
When testing a new ROM I always do alot of mode switch tests as I like to have a quick swap.
However, for purposes of this test, I didn't switch mode at all.
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alright, cool thanks.
Earlier this evening I had to reset my phone. It sat in stand by for at least 45 min and i was playing with it, using touchflo, tapping, etc. All was normal.
However, after flipping out the keyboard I noticed that it briefly started to have its freezing moments when flipping back to portrait. So perhaps this could be looked into a little.

kjb86 said:
alright, cool thanks.
Earlier this evening I had to reset my phone. It sat in stand by for at least 45 min and i was playing with it, using touchflo, tapping, etc. All was normal.
However, after flipping out the keyboard I noticed that it briefly started to have its freezing moments when flipping back to portrait. So perhaps this could be looked into a little.
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Well not to get too off topic from the SPL issue, I will say that I have found portrait/landscape mode swapping to be very inconsistent on all ROMS. On the fastest ROMs I have tried the screen rotates in about 1 second (1 mississippi count). On the worst ROMs it is about a 3 mississippi count. However, the fast ROMs will sometimes perform at more of a 1.5-2.0 second interval and the slower ROMs will sometimes perform closer to the 1.5 marks. I don't think this has to do with what i have running etc as I will usually do these test just after a soft reset (giving the phone about 60-120 seconds to finish starting up first). But I'll leave it at that...back to the topic at hand....

AllTheWay said:
Ok I would try Jockys HardSPL 1.1
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These are the results of Jocky's 1.1...they are equivalent to HardSPL:
Jockey SPL (SPL-1.1.JockyW)
1588
1588
1558
1588
Average:1580
As far as the other ones you attached... HardSPL is I believe the normal OliPro one which I already tested. JumpSPL is a "soft" SPL and can't actually be flashed permanently. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As you are I am very sceptical as to how the SPL could have any affect on the OS. However I did read one interesting post in the other thread.
The poster brought up the fact that the SPL loads the OS. If the SPL improperly starts that load out before the .dlls take over it could have an effect on the OS.
So far that is the most logical reason I have heard thus far. I would love to see olipro jocky or one of the other heavy hitters weigh in on the issue.
Till then I think Ill stick with HardSPL.

I'm not a fancy-schmancy tester-roony (what? ), but I can state with certainty that my Tilt, which is currently running L26's Diamond v4 ROM, has seen major improvements since flashing to the new HTC 3.28 SPL.
With the L26 v4 ROM in particular, I was experiencing screen lag several times per minute. With the new SPL, it has not happened once!

I am almost positive that a benchmark is not going to show touch screen lag. Also, the improvement does not seam to be quantifiable, but noticeable none the less.

Fact of the matter is bengalih has been the only one I have seen to try to quantify and qualify the effects (if any) of the newer 6.1 based roms and various SPL's. I applaud his efforts, and further investigation is warranted IMHO.
Frankly, posting one-off reports of success or failure using one SPL or other using one ROM or other pale in comparison to a well documented method and means, which bengalih has at least attempted. Too often this forum relies on "Ok this is what works for me" posts, rather than sytematic efforts to determine what will work for most under such and such conditions. The results should be quantifiable and replicable. Bengalih has attempted that, suggested a process, and is asking for replication or refinement of the procedure. That is what this thread is for IMHO.
You may not like the message, but dont kill the messenger.

Back to the topic!
I dont post much but on this issue I am totally convinced that the SPL is causing issues. I started having the freezing with the official att rom 1.62 after I had been using other cooked roms and hardSPL. Just yesterday I switched back to the SPL that came with att 1.62 and I havent had a freeze at all. I am dying to hear from Pof, Jockey, Oli anyone of those that know how the SPL really works and perhaps a new version of HardSPL. So let me reiterate, no placebo here, problem solved by reverting to original spl. However I dont like being stuck with official roms.

fitdocsr said:
I dont post much but on this issue I am totally convinced that the SPL is causing issues. I started having the freezing with the official att rom 1.62 after I had been using other cooked roms and hardSPL. Just yesterday I switched back to the SPL that came with att 1.62 and I havent had a freeze at all. I am dying to hear from Pof, Jockey, Oli anyone of those that know how the SPL really works and perhaps a new version of HardSPL. So let me reiterate, no placebo here, problem solved by reverting to original spl. However I dont like being stuck with official roms.
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Please qualify and quantify your results using the procedures outlined in the original post. Or maybe suggest new procedures? THEN you will be on-topic. I'm happy whatever you did works for you, however it is practically irrelevant in this thread.

fitdocsr said:
I dont post much but on this issue I am totally convinced that the SPL is causing issues. I started having the freezing with the official att rom 1.62 after I had been using other cooked roms and hardSPL. Just yesterday I switched back to the SPL that came with att 1.62 and I havent had a freeze at all. I am dying to hear from Pof, Jockey, Oli anyone of those that know how the SPL really works and perhaps a new version of HardSPL. So let me reiterate, no placebo here, problem solved by reverting to original spl. However I dont like being stuck with official roms.
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I agree with most of your post.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE OFFICIAL ROMS TO USE OFFICIAL SPL!!!
1. HARD SPL
2. Flash L26 V4 (Cause it is the best out there)
3. Official SPL
If you want to try another ROM (but you wont, till L26 V5) simply flash HARD SPL, repeat.

Nick Collision said:
Please qualify and quantify you results using the procedures outlined in the original post. Or suggest new procedures? THEN you will be on-topic.
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Having a large test group try two SPLs and report back their findings is a procedure.

lewcamino said:
Having a large test group try two SPLs and report back their findings is a procedure.
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The original poster tested not only two, but as many as five SPL's if I recall correctly. At-large testing is good, however your personal assessment will be drowned in another flood of "me too" and "me-not" posts. Which IMHO is counterproductive. Stick to the procedure, test, and post. Suggest changes to the procedure, test, then post. Otherwise you are just noise.

Nick Collision said:
Please qualify and quantify your results using the procedures outlined in the original post. Or maybe suggest new procedures? THEN you will be on-topic. I'm happy whatever you did works for you, however it is practically irrelevant in this thread.
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Procedure:
Device=Tilt
Use original rom.....no freezing
HardSPL OliPof
Flash Rom I tried aprox. 10 of the most popular. Then perform common tasks on each. ..... freezing occurs, non responsive screen and keys random times.
Didnt matter if it was a 6.0 rom or 6.1 rom. Freezing occured on both but the freezes were more frequent on 6.1 roms.
Flashed updated ATT SPL and then flashed official ATT 1.62 and havent experienced a freeze in 24 hours. Note this rom did have the freezing when HardSPL was used.

fitdocsr said:
Procedure:
Device=Tilt
Use original rom.....no freezing
HardSPL OliPof
Flash Rom I tried aprox. 10 of the most popular. Then perform common tasks on each. ..... freezing occurs, non responsive screen and keys random times.
Didnt matter if it was a 6.0 rom or 6.1 rom. Freezing occured on both but the freezes were more frequent on 6.1 roms.
Flashed updated ATT SPL and then flashed official ATT 1.62 and havent experienced a freeze in 24 hours. Note this rom did have the freezing when HardSPL was used.
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AWESOME!! Dude... you roxors glad you got it werxin rite!!
Now can we get back to some real testing?
<casm>

WM 6.1 Calendar Notifications/Alarms caush phone to hang/freeze

Hi,
I have an XDA Orbit with Meschle's 4.01 Artemis ROM (WM 6.1)
I find that sometimes calendar notifcation alarms, when they are due to go off cause the phone to hang/freeze. The alarms don't actually sound - the screen seems to stay on bright and none of the buttons work. The only way around this seems to be to pull the battery out. I have checked the notification queue with SK Tools but can see nothing out of the ordinary.
Any suggestions as to how to get round this problem would be gladly recieved as apart from this I love the phone and the ROM.
Regards
Gary

garymansell said:
Hi,
I have an XDA Orbit with Meschle's 4.01 Artemis ROM (WM 6.1)
I find that sometimes calendar notifcation alarms, when they are due to go off cause the phone to hang/freeze. The alarms don't actually sound - the screen seems to stay on bright and none of the buttons work. The only way around this seems to be to pull the battery out. I have checked the notification queue with SK Tools but can see nothing out of the ordinary.
Any suggestions as to how to get round this problem would be gladly recieved as apart from this I love the phone and the ROM.
Regards
Gary
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What about a hard reset?
Hope it helps,

I am pretty sure that I have tried this in the past. I also re-flashed the whole ROM several times to make sure that it was not ROM corruption.
Thanks for the response though.
Rgds
Gary

Could be a particular rom issue, might be better to contact the chef or reflash a different rom?

I raised this previously on the Meshle 4.01 ROM thread and no one else could confirm it so I presume that it is not the ROM.
Thanks for taking the time to reply though.
Rgds
Gary

try replacing your radio maybe? if it's not the radio, i can only assume it's a hardware problem...

Nir nir, as always good advice
How ever much you like the rom, there are always more yes? try a different radio as Nir suggests, but i would recommend flashing a different rom, its amazing how many little bugs can be suffered by different people and not by others - most solved by having another rom.
and anyway, flashings fun yes ? Two birds with one stone so to speak...

I despise flashing new ROMS, tho there's this strange excitements hoping it'll be better than the previous one

pmsl, each to their own then Nir
I have finally (after much hassle, flashing, re-flashing, reading and swearing) flashed D 3lit3 VI, just booting up now...... oooo cant wait......
Sorry off topic, but i still get excited after all this time
Moto : never, never, never give up

Best custom ROM to use??

Hi guys, what's the best custom GSM ROM to use for HTC Touch Pro? Should i use WM 6.1 or WM 6.5?? Is this one good coz it seems a bit outdated:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=454906
I just wanna find a good custom ROM that gives a lot of battery life and performance. And no bugs at all. Please recommend one.
EDIT: Also, since i'm not sure which ROM to use atm, i'm still sticking to the stock rom. But I find the signal kinda weak on my fone and was advised to upgrade the radio rom or something......from what i know, i have to install HardSPL first be4 flashing the radio rom, so i have 2 questions.
If i install HardSPL, does that hardreset my device? Will i lose everything or does it just install on the device and that's it?
And same with the radio rom, can i simply install it without hardresetting the device or anything related to it? I found this topic here and it seems i just need to install the cab file, is that it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494632

I like EnergyROM. It's 6.5 too. In my opinion, 6.5 is much better than 6.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751

thanks for ur reply, how is the battery and overall performance of ur fone compare to using the stock rom?

The battery is fine as ROMs go. I'm a heavy texter and it usually gets me through 12 hours. I hear EnergyROM uses a tad more power than other ones but I haven't really noticed.
The performance is fantastic. It's fast and responsive and I've tried several other roms. A few 6.1 ones like Elite RC 2 and 3 and a lot of the 6.5 roms and this is my favorite. Seriously, my only two gripes with it are than the messages act buggy sometimes and that my MMS doesn't work but that is a T-Mobile specific problem.
I didn't even answer your main question. The stock rom (if you have AT&T) SUCKS. It was unusable in my opinion. This is leagues above it. The stock ROM's interface would just lag everywhere. It's been so long since I've had it (and I only had the stock on for like 2 days) I can't really answer the battery life part. Flashing to a new ROM is totally worth it.
And if you flash a new radio you keep your phone exactly how it was.

i bought my HTC Touch Pro from Taiwan and the performance is quite ok to me, the TouchFlo 3D etc are fine, i just have the issue with the battery problem, it lasts barely a day for me and i have to recharge all over again whereas my old phone (SE W950i) can use up to like 4 days straight......also, i have the problem with the signal since when i'm at Uni, whenever i tried sending a SMS, it often fails and pisses me off.
Just a couple of questions....
1. when u said ur fone lasts 12 hrs a day on average, wat do u normally use ur fone for? Do u just txt? Or do u use Wifi and play music etc as well? Coz i mostly use my fone for txt and the battery drains like crazy.......
2. How can i flash a new radio without installing HardSPL, which basically hard resets my fone? Do i use CustomRUU? Coz i don't know how to use it, i'm a total newb at this since i've only just got my first WM fone a while ago.....
EDIT:
Ok i'm getting really confused. After reading through some important notes from Energy's topic which you have linked me, I am just fully lost right now by this line:
3. "If your radio does not match your rilphone.dll you can get crazy bad battery drainage. Make sure they match. There is a separate thread for that."
So what do I do? Do i first flash the radio rom and then copy the rilphone.dll (which has to match the radio rom) to somewhere on the phone? Or do i simply install the rom??
4. I live in New Zealand, any New Zealanders can recommend the best radio rom for me? My provider is Vodafone NZ
5. And also, since my phone is bought from Taiwan, i am able to input chinese on the hardware keyboard and i use chinese when i txt friends sometimes. I know there are programs like CE Star but those use the software keyboard, is there a way i can still use my hardware keyboard to input chinese?
6. After updating to a custom rom, will i still be able to install hotfix or updates for the official rom? I.e can i still install the updates/hotfixes i download from the official HTC website and apply them to the custom rom?
PS: Sorry for the amount of questions.