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hello everyone!
i have been reading feverishly on all of this, and think i have some solid ideas.
Wanted to come right out and ask.
Anyone have a recommendation for me as far as which WM6 Rom to upgrade to?
My 8125 is unlocked for use with the old AT&T Blue (yes, i know, im holding on for dear life out of contract!)
Which would work best for me? (rom, radio, etc, for WM6. and do i have to unlock the CID again? same old method? or new for WM6?)
I am sick of WM5 and the issues i am having a fresh start would do it, but why not upgrade!?
appreciate any links as well.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
Dan
My findings
Hi,
It's always best to first read the tread on how to flash. Realy.
2nd flash to the latest rom from your provider .
Radio 2.19 seems to be the best in general. Others have issues in some situations. However you can flash those without hard reset. So you can try several without losing settings and stuff.
On OS my findings for wm6 are Faria's latest (no touch) or reTOUChed final. But i didn't try NBD 7.9 yet.
All respect to other cooks! these just met my needs best. It's personal.
greetings
Spinner van Webben
thanks for the input
i am trying to catch up. i used to visit this forum multiple times a day! i am trying to jump back in the scene after almost a year. thread links are a definite a plus!
can you post links for that stuff?
I have flashed before, but it was a whilllle ago
i have been eyeballing this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
any particulars i should take extra time to study?
i am having the battery drain issue. started up within the last month.
my current setup is as follows:
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 2.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
as always, i really appreciate you guys and your help. you cant even pay to get the information you guys share free!
dan
danrw84 said:
thanks for the input
i am trying to catch up. i used to visit this forum multiple times a day! i am trying to jump back in the scene after almost a year. thread links are a definite a plus!
can you post links for that stuff?
I have flashed before, but it was a whilllle ago
i have been eyeballing this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315178
any particulars i should take extra time to study?
i am having the battery drain issue. started up within the last month.
my current setup is as follows:
IPL 2.17
SPL 2.17
GSM 2.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
as always, i really appreciate you guys and your help. you cant even pay to get the information you guys share free!
dan
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Hey, take a look at my sig.
I've been reading through these forums for months too.
Here's my 2 cents:
You need to decide what kind of ROM you want... Touch or Crossbow
I use to love Crossbow but I found Touch and I'm in love with it...once you go with Touch you won't want to go to Crossbow anymore.
If you want Touch.. I would say NBD v7.8..it's awesome.
If you want Crossbow.. NTS v1 (jaguar) is awesome too... there is NTS v2.. but I haven't tried it.
sweet. you have the same setup i do
i am not familiar with touch or crossbow. what is the diff?
can you link me to the files i need, and/or the procedure you used to update?
thanks so much
danrw84 said:
sweet. you have the same setup i do
i am not familiar with touch or crossbow. what is the diff?
can you link me to the files i need, and/or the procedure you used to update?
thanks so much
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Sorry, my friend... then you have lot of reading to do.
Espeically if you don't even know how to flash...
This is for your own good.. if you don't know what you're doing.. you might brick your phone.... meaning dead phone.
So, I advise you to start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
This should tell you how to flash...
Then you can start picking out what you want to flash to.
Touch: NBD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311534
Crossbow: NTS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314660
If you don't know the difference then try flashing them both and pick which one you like... I did... I must have flashed like dozens of time to figure out which one I liked. Also, people have different needs and preference so my taste in ROMs might not fit your needs too.
Just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean everything's going to work... we'd want them to but sometime it's now.. so, without knowing what you did you won't probably enjoy the new ROM.
Try to enjoy this learning process.. otherwise, I'd say don't even bother because you're gonna have hell of a time trying to get everything just right.
I'm not trying to be mean.... just trying to help.
I'll try to help anyone if I can.. just like everyone else in this forum.
PS. I go here to see the list of threads for WM6 Wizard (8125).. I try to keep up with it but can't..so, I just focus on what I like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=356&order=desc
I do know how to flash!
i flashed it before, but i am not up to speed with the new stuff.
to make my phone ideal, stable, and the best it can be,
which version recommendations do you suggest for, rom, radio, etc.
how should i set the phone up? which rom should i download and is there a particular place you can link me to download?
if i just know WHAT i want to, which versions, etc, i can read up, search and do all that myself. i just dont know what would be ideal for me right now
i am having a problem with the 8125 where i will be talking and it will just shut off and start rebooting, and keep rebooting. die, reboot. with full battery.
then when i plug it in to the stock charger, it will come on, but the battery reads in at like 6-15%,
is this the battery?
it started acting up when i spilled a little water on it last week!
danrw84 said:
hello everyone!
i have been reading feverishly on all of this, and think i have some solid ideas.
Wanted to come right out and ask.
Anyone have a recommendation for me as far as which WM6 Rom to upgrade to?
My 8125 is unlocked for use with the old AT&T Blue (yes, i know, im holding on for dear life out of contract!)
Which would work best for me? (rom, radio, etc, for WM6. and do i have to unlock the CID again? same old method? or new for WM6?)
I am sick of WM5 and the issues i am having a fresh start would do it, but why not upgrade!?
appreciate any links as well.
Thanks for your advice in advance!
Dan
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I am in SC with ATT (Cingular) and a 8125 G4 and am having good results with XDA Mobile 6 Release 2a Full Version. I started flashing without unlocking the CID but it was a pain so I went ahead and unlocked it, but it is not necessary and there are some great step by step instructions in the forum. I followed the instructions and even though I am a newbie I haven't bricked my phone.
Jim in San Diego
danrw84 said:
I do know how to flash!
i flashed it before, but i am not up to speed with the new stuff.
to make my phone ideal, stable, and the best it can be,
which version recommendations do you suggest for, rom, radio, etc.
how should i set the phone up? which rom should i download and is there a particular place you can link me to download?
if i just know WHAT i want to, which versions, etc, i can read up, search and do all that myself. i just dont know what would be ideal for me right now
i am having a problem with the 8125 where i will be talking and it will just shut off and start rebooting, and keep rebooting. die, reboot. with full battery.
then when i plug it in to the stock charger, it will come on, but the battery reads in at like 6-15%,
is this the battery?
it started acting up when i spilled a little water on it last week!
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Oh.. in that case.. just like my sig says, I use NBD v7.8 right.. gonna flash to v7.9 soon.. man, thast zoki guy is fast and good.
go here and you'll find bunch of he's ROMs... I found that v7.4 & v7.8 is most stable, for me at least.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311534
For Radio.. the UK T-Mobile 2.19 is most stable from what I hear and experienced.
I've only tried 2.69 with ipl/spl 3.08.. but didn't work out.. I started missing calls.
There are group of people who's trying to figure out which Radio is the best in this forum... so, look in there time to time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312834&page=22
When flashing I always try to flash to T-Mobile 2.26 first.. then flash UK T-mobile 2.19.. then whatever ROM I want.. this way I start fresh all the time.
About your battery... well, I'm no expert but it might be with your battery... don't know.. I bet that water did do some damage.. if it's still under warrenty I would try getting a replacement for the phone first... then, if it still doesn't work then try getting new battery. Other then that, I don't know much about battery... good luck!
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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LoL
If you were happy and content with what you had, you wouldn't be here mate, you'd still be using Wm5 LMAO.
Happy hunting, I do believe you were using NNCuongs at some point recently..............
Cheers,
Beasty
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Rant complete.
San
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Hi San,
Imagine, using Universal just as a phone.
But, no.................
It has to be better than:
Desktop PC
Portable PC
GSM
Phone
PDA
Surf the net
Connect to whatever
Remind to be sub-servant to the other (better) half
.........
So, the never ending quest continues ......
Hey mate, remember we are talking about Universal......
Best Regards,
KOR!
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
San
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Hi San,
Or it could be sheer boredom or you are in love with your Universal!
I WANT A NEW DRUG
I want a new drug
One that wont make me sick
One that wont make me crash my car
Or make me feel three feet thick
I want a new drug
One that wont hurt my head
One that wont make my mouth too dry
Or make my eyes too red
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I want a new drug
One that wont spill
One that dont cost too much
Or come in a pill
I want a new drug
One that wont go away
One that wont keep me up all night
One that wont make me sleep all day
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
Im alone with you baby
I want a new drug
One that does what it should
One that wont make me feel too bad
One that wont make me feel too good
I want a new drug
One with no doubt
One that wont make me talk too much
Or make my face break out
One that wont make me nervous
Wondering what to do
One that makes me feel like I feel when Im with you
When Im alone with you
I am in love with you
I am in love with you, baby!
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Cheers mate,
KOR!
Possible solution.
Right click your rom downloads and go to properties to check the creation date, hopefully this will jog your memory. The gap in dates should hopefully give you a clue.
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
Rant complete.
San
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San, you must be dreaming or you logged in on the wrong forum!
Aren't most of us here love flashing ROM's not because we're looking for the perfect one but because we get high by trying the latest one and posting something like this: "a perfect ROM, extremely fast & stable BUT, ......"
There was never a perfect device or ROM for us, but let me give you a clue.
Which ROM is highly customizable, boots up with 29Mb free RAM even with HTC Home plug-in installed, able to retain 24Mb of free RAM after heavy use, seldom crashes, supports 128Mb RAM, perfectly usable by doing away with progs & tools you don't use anyway? Beat that!
Your guess is good as mine!
Do you mean you're going back to the Best WM5 ROM you ever had? The Darkforces Team ROM!
i have tried many and the one i felt in lovewith was NNcoung ROM. Its fast, stable, no memory leaks, 31+ of ram after reset, flash disk (the best of all since you can install all the apps you want here with no side effects) and vanilla so you can install whatever you want. try it you will see that is the best ROM for universal EVER.
dreamtheater39 said:
I HAD a perfectly running rom a couple weeks back, was flawless, no crashes, no leaks....perfectly usable.
The problem is now in 2 parts.
The first: I cant keep myself from trying new roms, even if it is hardly any different from what i already have!
The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
IF ONLY i was content with what was working and let it be.....damnit!
Now, I got to find some of the older roms and test them out again :-/
Rant complete.
San
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Hi,
Have you used Mtty to format/clean your memory ? (sometimes it helps)
And indeed I should try Nncuong's rom.
Greetings,
Wout
wow wow wow!! So many replies, dont know which one to respond to ;o)))
I'm guessing all the 18538 based roms dont seem to be stable on my device setup. It was one of the earlier builds which worked good for me. The 18538 roms always bombed up on me and i kept reverting back to one of the older roms which was flawless. The problem is, I changed my laptop and i dont have the nk.nbf file which i had with me . So i'm waiting for the coming weekend to start the hunt all over again
Until then, i got to live with this fubar'ed POS :-/ Really gets on to your nerves when it crashes over 30 times a day (not exagerating...all i need to do is, be on a call and try and push a button, and the call's frozen. I cant disconnect the call, the END or disconnect hardware buttons all dont respond)
I guess i'll just jump to beastyleo's rom, only thing that doesnt work is a2dp for me, which is much better than this crash-fest, roach motel rom that i'm currently running on!
Cheers,
San
If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.
I only can say................ we made big progress today
And update is comming soon to your way......................
Skwyk said:
If you have a G3 device try this: http://www.sym-viet.com/nncuong/UNI_2_11_11_G3.rar
the only rom i saw without memory leak. Havent tried beastyleo's tho.
A2DP is really good, it freezes device but just press play button on your headset to unfreeze happens once per day avg.
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Universal Is A Useless Device!
Basically, Universal Is A Useless Device!
And, my friends and my relatives think that I have a big head
WHY?
The basic function of the Universal is Phone. As a Phone it is a useless device even with Windows Mobile 5. It is slow, eats up batteries, has crashes and so forth.
It is very bulky, always has to be carried in the hands. With a belt clip it is immense. It is impossible to use while driving. And, even the voice command is useless as it gets the number wrong most of the time.
So, welcome to Windows Mobile 6, which is not supported by HTC for Universal. It is the same story with Windows Mobile 6 and we are constantly re-flashing as it is full of bugs.
My friends and my relatives tell me that I have a big head, as they call me and that I never return their missed calls. I have painfully explained them about Universal.
So, they say buy a new phone. I tell them that I bought by Xda Exec in the first part of this year!
So, buy a new phone if you want to be in touch with your friends and your relatives. What I do!
I go in July of this year and buy Jasjar. Another Universal!
When I bought it, I told my self that I will only use it for Phone!
Now I own two Universals, several standard and large batteries. Two sim cards and several cases. Lots of different mono and stereo bluetooth and so forth!
Now I am constantly flashing both of my Universal. My friends and relatives still complain about the miss calls. So, now I am thinking to buy a small HTC Phone for just only Phone purposes.
But, I am also thinking to upgrade both of my Universal to 128MB.
I guess, I have to prioritize????
Any betting man or woman out there!
KOR!
dreamtheater39 said:
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The second: I dont remember which was the rom that ran perfectly!
Now i'm soooo screwed, the last couple roms i've tried is such a nightmare to use
It leaks memory like crazy, gets real sluggish, completely comes crashing down. It crashes a billion times, the radio loses connectivity and i have to restart to get it to work again.....arghhhhh!
San
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Hi San,
Have a look at the following thread, your troubles might be related to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351578
KOR!
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )
wout said:
Hi San,
It looks like we are both having the same problems with our uni.
You noticed that it could have something to do with ours being one of the earlier production models ?
FYI i'm now running build 18533.0.7.1 by Nncuong with radio 1.17.
And this is now running without any softresets for 48 hours, which is a new record for my *&@#% uni.
But I still love the thing, It's a hate/love relation
Could you let me know which roms run stable on your uni ?
And do you also sometimes find that it looks stable but after 8 or so hours it seems like the thing is "deteriorating" needing softresets increasingly more often ?
greetings,
Wout
(and also important, after 11 hours battery still at 89%, with light usage of phone )
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Woww!!! Looks like you're speaking through my brain m8!!!
Especially the pseudo short-lived happiness with the new roms (18538 roms!) until all hell breaks loose!
As i've noticed, the nncuong roms, the darkforce (earlier) roms worked great for me. Right now, i've flashed thingonaspring's 3.2 rom, hoping this baby will hold up....lets see how it goes!
The mo3ulla rom (confirmed) was a nightmare on my device setup. Was the worst of the lot, mainly because of a serious memory leak problem. Harldy any time, and it drops to a skimpy 3meg free ram status with nothing running!
Was way too crappy to be used for anything at all, flashed over thingonaspring's rom (its a 18533 rom), i'm wishing this one would work fine for me....will post in and let you know how it fares...
cheers,
San
hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout
wout said:
hahaha,
If i'm right your device won't like thingy's 3.2 (it was a softreset fest on mine)
let me know will you ?
greetings,
Wout
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oh gawdddd ((( thingy's rom is no good on my device
What rom r u currently running and how good is it???? I guess i need to replicate ur setup!
The last stable rom i can think of is Darkforce's rom, and i dont seem to find it on the forums....do u have a download link???
cheers
San
addiction
Flashing of Different ROM's is an addiction dangerous than grug adduction....
I don't know now how many times I have flashed my Universal..Thre is no end to it. Our Developer friends always come with the new ideas and we follow them...........What is the result? everyone knows better.
dreamtheater39 said:
well, i never used any rom with the home plugin, nor did i install it
I was using mo3ulla's rom....or one of the roms which started with russian as the default language, and i had to change it in regional settings...
cheers,
San
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Hi San,
So simple and I kept rambling on and on.
Ramblin’ Man
Lord I was born a ramblin’ man
Tryin to make a livin and doin’ the best I can
When it’s time for leavin I hope you’ll understand
That I was born a rambling man
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Hint: My signature contains two of the best ROMs ever!
Best Regards,
KOR!
Hi,
I am really wanting to upgrade my SPV C600 to WinMo6. But first i need advice.
What ROM will keep all of my current working functions, working?? i want to be able to use my phone as i do now, just on WM6.
Also, i would quite like it to look like this IF possible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wv5aeDB6kwY
What are your recommendations?
Keith.
Which ROM?
The video you've been looking at is the standard WM6.1 Home screen. GnatGoSplats WM6.1 Clean ROM uses this interface, and it seems to be a good, stable ROM. Personally though, and this is just a matter of personal preference, I've found that although WM6.1 is the latest, WM6 ROM's tend to work better, be more stable and keep your device running with most if not all of your current 'stuff'.
I'm using SGregory's WM6 with the 'Neo' home screen, which in my opinion is a far better home screen interface than the standard WM6.1 you're talking about - but again, it's just personal preference.
One thing you will find though is that most ROM 'cookers' remove a lot of useless apps which most people never use so you can have more free memory to install the stuff you do use - I think it's called 'user choice'! Rather than Microsoft dictating which software is on your device, you can add the stuff you want and leave all the crap out.
If you're worried about upgrading your ROM because your device won't be the same, don't do it... that's the whole point of upgrading - your device WON'T be the same, it will be BETTER!!
Haha, thanks.
Have you got any screenshots of NEO? Also, could you link to that rom you thought was best and say what i would be losing/gaining?
Also , how easy is it to get it back to stock orange?
All the info you need my friend is right here in this forum. It's too time consuming for anyone to list all the pros and cons of various custom ROM's - just try one, if you don't like it, try another.
If you want to put the original Orange ROM back on (you won't when you've tried a decent ROM), you can download it from Orange website. Just type 'Orange SPV C600 ROM' into Google.
Is it really that easy to put it back as it was? If i did the recovery (hold 2 soft keys) would that not work anymore?
Also, will upgrading the radios not bother it in any way?
And by the orange rom, do you mean the one that adds the push email?
By 'Recovery' I assume you mean hard-reset. If so, no, that won't put it back to how it was. That will just reset all the settings to default and remove any third-party software which you have installed, thus leaving the device in a 'new' state (new, according to the ROM you have installed, not new as in just bought from Orange).
If I were you, I would leave it as it is because you're obviously way too concerned about messing up your device
I dunno about that last part, he's just a newbie. When I first got my Tornado I was scared to death to upgrade from WM5 to WM6 because I was afraid of bricking my phone. But I had a buddy who owns a Wizard watching over my shoulder while I followed the tutorial step-by-step, which was a big confidence-builder. And when it installed perfectly, I had the hang of it, and I've been experimenting occasionally with new ROMs ever since.
Keithoms, as long as you follow Karhoe's tutorial you're golden. And you'll never want to go back to the original ROM again - this I promise you. WM6 and WM6.1 are light years better than WM5. And don't you worry about bricking your phone - you have to seriously screw up the process to do that. Upgrade the radio for better reception, upgrade the ROM for better functionality.
And, I recommend doing like I did: read. Spend some time on this forum and just read threads. Read, read, read. Forums like this are great for getting questions answered, and chances are your question has been asked at least once before, and you're quite likely to find the answer to your question before you need to post it. If you can't find it, post, and we'll answer away. And, as an added bonus, by digging through the forums each day, you're likely to come across questions that you never thought to ask, and answers that fix problems you didn't realize you had.
And, last but not least, ENJOY! I've been in love with Windows Mobile phones ever since I got mine, and the number of things you can do with them are limitless.
Some threads you should read:
Karhoe's WM6 upgrade how-to. It looks like a lot of steps, but it's not really. It goes very fast - if you're SLOW, it might take you 25-30 minutes.
Nitro's WM6 ROM - you can substitute this for the ROM suggested by Karhoe's tutorial without any ill effects at all.
A whole collection of ROMS and software for the Tornado.
Hope this was helpful, and hope you have an awesome day!
Hi, thanks for the replies. For the radio, i was only meaning, would it bother the old orange rom in any way if i decided to go back with the radio still updated.
I am a bit paranoid, but that is only because i bought the phone yesterday and spent all of my money on it.
I have read karhoes guide around 20 times. Giving it a thought, i take it the only way to brick it is to either not SuperCID it before its flashed, to do format BINFS wrongly and to knock out the cables and/or run out of batterys as it is doing GMSUpdate and the actual rom flash.
So if i avoid those things, i should be fine? :S
I'm on nights so I'm moody!
- Perhaps I was a bit short with you to tell you to leave it alone. djsleepwalker is right... if you follow the guide to the letter, you shouldn't have any issues. Even if you do, someone in this forum has the answer you need.
You will never regret upgrading your ROM and you'll never want to put the original Orange ROM back on, that's for sure. I've used Windows Mobiles since 2002 and I've only started messing with ROM's a couple of years ago.. I wish I'd done it sooner. The benefits far outway the risks
Well, i just went ahead and did the full shebang!
I bought a new housing from fluffcat1, fitted that.
Then.... installed GGS's WM6
Uber-Epic romz....
Thanks to all that helped me get through this without any damamamagamage to my phone.
Hi Guys, took the plunge and installed the HTC wm6.1 update on my 3month old UK Orange Branded Tytn.
TBH it was ok before - but i just wanted to see if it would be any quicker and fancied the threaded SMS as i used it on my n95 and it was easier to keep track of conversations. First problem was it would not run HardSPL and i got the white screen problem that i cured by following these instructions..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I have been now able to install the new rom okay, BUT it is as slow as hell (I thought the orange firmware was bad lol) seems to be ok then it just jams - sometimes for a good few seconds. bit of a pain. The keyboard Touch screen and any buttons dont do anything, sometimes for up to 30s, then it all catches up with all the buttons iv pressed during the freeze ect being actioned, a nightmare.
I tried one of Duttys ROMS (Must say im very impressed with his work!!!) BUT Same problem as before the thing just freezes for a few seconds (doesnt crash - just freezes) its a pain trying to browse or send tst messages.
Have I done anything wrong in the upgrade, or is it "Orange care time"?
did u remember to hard reset ur device after flash?
Thanks for the reply,
I just ran the JumpSPL program then ran the rom exe file(S) The thing is fine, just as slow as hell - having to resort to my old n95 now ;-(
I didnt do a hard reset after i updated the rom, just activsync`d it and set it up
do a hard reset it should improve your rom spead. Some times when you flash a new rom and don't do hard reset files of the old rom are still on device and cause conflicts with the new rom that is why a hard reset is almost highly recommended after a rom flash.
Don't forget to back up your contacts,messages,documents on device as a hard reset will erase everything except spl, os, rom, radio.
good luck
ill give that a try, thanks
Can you let us know what ROM's you're running.
I'm on Orange (UK) and mine is much faster than the stock ROM now.
Do you have any other software running on it ? SPB Mobile Shell sometimes slows things down ...
Read my signature for the ROM's I'm using on the Orange Tytn II.
hi,
Where did you download the ROM from? The one from the HTC website only gives me the option to download Norwegian version....any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT I've jst downloaded RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship - Is that the ROM you used?
Just flashed my HTC TyTN II Orange, with the above ROM & everything is O.K at the moment, woo. lol
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
Tried doing a hard reset as suggested and im not running any other apps. Iv reflashed a couple of times today and both are still causing the same symptoms - touch screen suddenly not as responsive then the tytn freezes completely for a few secs, then its fine for a while.
speedbird said:
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
I've flashed my Orange Tytn2 and a friends without issue using the 'official' 6.1 rom that was posted on Modaco.
I didn't hard reset afterwards and both units are working fine. Maybe try flashing your device on a different pc?
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM, and that i had also tried duttys rom (I was very impressed with it), If you read my posting i think you will realise i simply commented it was showing they SAME symptoms on my phone. My problem was NOT with duttys rom (btw i DID notice the word test in its name before i loaded it, but thanks for pointing that out), I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
ajs007 said:
I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
"Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
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speedbird said:
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM......... I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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What are the symptoms ?
Have you added any other Software (i.e. programs or cabs) ?
Has the device got slower over time ?
What challenges are you having with problems with the flashing process ?
Are you using a screen protector as this reduces the touch sensitivity ?
Im not running any other programs or screen protector, the thing is fine for a minute or so then starts to slow down and reaches the point where nothing will happen and it locks up (for what feels like ages) prob about 30-43secs but its enough to cause grief if ur trying to send a txt with it or browse. Then it comes back to life and is fine again for a while, also getting a few error msgs saying that CProg has problems - (on all the 6.1 roms iv tried).
i have tried several roms (inc stock roms) and although i have read postings in modoco about the new 6.1 rom making the machine unresponsive this takes the biscuit, i thought my old n95 was bugridden when i first got it ;-(
There's a thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062 that tells of a similar tale, it might be worth a read.
Some of the issues are with the ROM and poor touch sensitivity making the unit appear to slow down.
If you have nothing to lose, overwrite your ROM's with the ones in my signature, they're on the forum and I know they're quick, and I'm on Orange, so its a good benchmark.
If you are still experiencing similar problems, then I would suggest you update the phone with the original stuff and tell Orange Care that they have a duff handset and you want it replacing.
i will give it a try, thanks ;-)
I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
Thanks
Energy Roms
DaG's WM6.5 21518 Clean ROM without MSVC is working very well for me.
Learn how to use UC and proper backup tools and then you can flash away and try as many roms as you want!
This is such an open ended question because many people have personal preference.
with that said. I would recommend NRG's EnergyROM, very stable 6.5, been using the june 30th version with a couple minor cosmetic issues, which i do not even remember what they are.
EnergyROM works also great and stable for me.
My experience was different from most those posting here. I found the 6.5's buggy. Third party calendar programs are particularly problematic (reoccuring events not even showing, to name one problem). I wanted to like the EnergyROM's... really I did... but alas, I went back to 6.1. So far, I'm experiencing stability with NATF v4.7 and liking it. I won't go back to the stock ROM.
fuze2011 said:
I have tried Timolol's WM6.5 and...I forgot the other...and this one was good for awhile but it's getting insanely buggy.
If you like the ROM you're on, and have been on it for a bit, then point me in the direction. I'd really like to use 6.5 but if I can't find a stable one, then I'll have to revert back to 6.1
Thanks
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Hi, have used PROven_ROM_2.4_WWE_Manila_TP (it's WM6.1) - very good,stable and fast.
Then got Energy 3.0 50409a MSVC Raph (wM6.5) and I'm absolutely happy with it. Didn't encountered any problem so far, NRG28 does his ROM's in top level-very professional!
If you want a clean ROM with very little battery usage go with RRE's or Da_G's for absolutely stock. NRG's uses way too much battery, I enjoy charging once every 2-3 days rather than once a day but to each his own..
The most stable and bug free ROM is the latest HTC official ROM. As Da_G said in other thread, there are serious issues in 6.5, so there is no such thing as stable 6.5 ROM - eventually you will face with unnacceptable bugs, like some of XDA members did...
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
I too like the energyroms.
I put my crap battery life down to not having found a decent UK T-mob radio yet rather than the rom
X2D said:
Like what? I don't see many if any bugs that hinder my day to day activities in 6.5, it runs smoother, it's sleeker and unreleased to the public giving it that extra "shimmer", and the built in scrolling effects are just amazing.
What bugs are you speaking of??
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For example, this is one of 6.5 users:
dwmackay said:
I was on the 6 hour flight and decided to play with the phone a bit out of boredom. It was locked up.
No problem soft reset. Continued to lock-up.
No problem, PIM Backup, Hard reset. Then the keyboard would not switch to ABC from 123.
No problem, switch to another SIP. It would hold the change; it kept switching back to the ROM default. No problem, just use the hardware keyboard. A couple of great days in Ireland and it was time to take a quick phone pic to send home. Camera would not work; missed the moment. Fiddled with it a bit, could not get it to work.
No problem, hard reset and try again. Camera works now, keyboard seems to have fixed itself, but phone turns off randomly.
No problem, flash another ROM I have on my storage card. Everything works now except the phone. It has a signal for 5 minutes, then no signal for 5 minutes, over and over.
No problem, switch to manual network selection, could not access the settings.
No problem, hard reset. Works fine now. Ready to take a quick picture at a golf outing where I did not lug my Nikon around. Phone has turned itself off again, missed the moment. Time to surf up some quick directions, IE locks-up.
No Problem, switch to Opera, takes forever to load, my sister already has the directions on her damn iPhone before opera even loads.
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imaginarynumber said:
WHAT???
pilgrim011- There is a bug free version of WM?
When did that happen?
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OK, don't get me wrong, there are things that I don't like - low in-call volume, TF3D is sometimes behaving weird etc., but there is always a .cab or .reg to solve these issues, and to tell you the truth, there are no serious issues with HTC ROM, phone is stable and solid as a rock. Of course, Energy ROMs are way faster and more pretty than official ROMs, but I prefer my battery life, stability etc. over speed, beauty and bugginess... And I don't want to flash my phone every 5 days.
Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
imaginarynumber said:
Fair enough pilgrim011
Btw has anyone found a work around for the word completion on the keyboard that actually works regardless of wm version???
For what its worth I love/hate wm6.5- I hate that everyone now thinks that we have to have icons because we are too thick to use menus, if I really was that thick I would have purchased an iphone!!!
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I recommend the fastest bestest most stable rom out there.
and I thought the reason we have all those iphone-alikes was so we could be almost cool enough to have an ibone. err.. iphone.