How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
zagan said:
How long are the dutty roms tested for, to make sure there arn't problems.
as I installed the march deul touch rom onto a TyTN II phone, and now this rom seems to have fallen apart.
These are the problems I'm getting now all these months later.
The phone start up takes about 5 to 10 second before starting.
Sometimes opening up a program will crash the rom, IE for example.
Other times a program will freeze or the phone and if you wait about 5 seconds or more it may un-freeze, and work though the screen will start to lose GFX and button won't work correctly.
Pressing the camera button can also lock up the phone.
A re-boot of the phone might not always fix the phone, like you need to do 3-5 re-boots before it work.
In these problems I've tried turning to whole phone off and leaving it off for a while, this works most times.
Other problems can happen while using certsin programs or doing certain things with in a program.
for example, opening up the contact and then trying to scroll the list can screew up the screen.
There's probablky some other problems but I havn't quite gotten a lot opf stuff mainly this rom seems to have broken or is falling apart slowly.
I feel the orginal 3 rom is much better.
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I have been using dutty's roms for several months now. I have not experienced any of these issues. The last time my phone lagged was about a month ago when i switched from Opera>Camera. It paused for about 30 seconds which wasn't a big deal at all.
You need to be careful what programs you are installing onto the Kaiser and what roms you are downloading. A lot of applications and some programs that are on the roms aren't necessarily for 6.1roms or the device to begin with.
I noticed my phone has issues when I install cubes. So I tend to stay away from cubes when Im using htchcustomizer.
But overall, his roms are great and if you have been using the roms you should know what to expect. You need to troubleshoot your issues by yourself because we don't know what rom you have because you never specified, what applications you have installed, which you've narrowed down to create these problems rather than blaming it on the rom itself.
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Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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yes yes yes
mohamedmall said:
Seriously dude, if your unhappy, flash the original rom. These forums & roms are for people who are keen to try something diffrent. if you want stock standard go with the original. The rest of us are happy to flash, flash & flash!
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I gave it a try to see what the result would be when using this rom.
I havn't looked at this forum heaps but seems to me that this rom is released quite a lot, and I'm wondering if that's due to problems over time or simply trying to release roms with something that's simply new to a rom or program.
The rom is DualTouch v6 WWE 03/06/2008
Radio: 1.58.25.14
protocol: 25.69.30.05H
For me, I have found this rom to be a bit flaky myself, lacking in a number of areas and the default programs I find limit the usefulness of the phone and slow me down compared to the orginal rom, and now the MS core program simply lock up at different times even after re-boots.
I'll re-flash the rom sometime soon, with probably a different rom I seen another decent rom on here but had too much video player/MP3 player type programs, in it and the office had been ripped out of the phone.
I would rather sus out making my own rom, so I can drop in programs that I think help to speed up using the phone and offer much better options for surfing the net and handling videos than from what I've seen so far.
I use my phone a lot of surfing the net and managing data that I have rather than using it for games or movies as such, music is ok but I have an A1000 as well and that's stero and I'd rather that for music also UIQ is a much better OS than WM but what can you do hey.
Then Get In The Kitchen And Cook Your Own
you could have a virus they are computers after all i would tyr flashing the rom again ......
Mods please close this useless thread, it should be in the respected version thread if anything.
posting under the thread related to the rom will help you avoid getting flammed or being responded to rudely. As far as Dutty's roms go i haven't had problems while using his roms .. and just like p1tater said if you don't like the way Dutty has built the rom than get in the kitchen and cook a rom yourself .
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Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
I get my Tilt Tuesday and am wondering what the "bottom line" is on this as well. It seems by removing bloatware, and installing a few cabs, you pretty much get a Kaiser. Speed and battery life are concerns for me though and if either is poor, I'm pretty comfortable installing a ROM (did it previously on my Wizard). Thanks to all for all the good info and advice. I've read way too much considering I don't even have the phone yet.
Hopefully we'll get an answer. On another forum I've read that you can install cabs to make the Tilt like the HTC, but on another thread I read that the HTC rom is different and better!
I'm not seeing any major disadvantages from using the HTC rom, actually, besides the menu problems which evidently have a fix. So, it might be worth a shot.
advantages
dhecker said:
Hello all -
I am getting my Tilt from AT&T tomorrow and I've been reading like crazy on this forum + wiki in preparation of getting it. Thanks to everyone who has contributed - awesome resource!
I understand the idea of flashing ROMS, unlocking, and general tweaking - I massively hacking/tweak my Tivo, etc. and I'm pretty sure I can get through it. But, I still have one question:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the HTC rom over the AT&T Tilt rom? I have never see the HTC rom but it looks like I can avoid the bloatware and add/tweak to my Tilt to make it similar to the HTC.
So, what exactly is on (or not on) the HTC rom that makes everyone want to switch away from the Tilt rom? What does the HTC rom have that the AT&T rom can't have???
Also: I have noticed some posts about battery life being different with different roms. I assumed that battery life would result from the way the varoius settings/options are set, but maybe I am not getting this.
I have read around on the forum quite a bit and I am understanding most of the nitty gritty details about these issues, but I'm a little unclear on what the problem is with the AT&T rom in the first place!
Any advice apreciated!! thanks - Dave
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custom roms base on htc releases have many advantages:
1- get rid of all junk and restrictions of at&t one
2- reg hacks and fixes that take the most out of your phone
3- many more advantages but if numbered here will take me all night
search in these forum and you get many other reasons to change. For example i bought the tilt and in the same day i unlock it due a hardspl and change the rom to a custom one and beleive i will never come back to at&t stock rom.
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
Pops_G said:
I was in your guys shoes too. I read a ton on this forum before I got the phone. Here is my advice having had 2 Tilts, first one I had for a week, then returned it till I got a better deal.
When you first start the phone you go through a quick WM6 setup. After that it will say "Customizing Device" and there will be a progress bar. When this starts reset the phone with the stylus into the small hole at the bottom. That will prevent a lot of the ATT bloatware from loading.
Try that for a week, and if it isn't broke then don't fix it.
That said, there are a lot of HTC apps I love. Keep in mind you don't need a new rom to install them.
I would only try new ROMs if one or more of the following apply:
1) You are having some issues with stability or speed.
2) You need more space on the main memory.
3) You are lazy and want to try some other premade package.
Basically all the roms I tried are not that different then the stock ATT rom without the "Customizations" bloatware install. Plus you can get the phone to the exact same level by installing apps and doing small tweaks. Its not night and day or anything dramatic. However its fun to try new things and tweak the phone, thats one of the reasons I got it.
Here are my Must Have applications.
HTC Home
HTC Audio Manager
KaiserTweak
HTC Task Manager
Opera Mini Beta 4
Google Maps
Windows Live
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
It all comes down to preferrences. I have a Tilt, and I have installed just about every ROM available here. I keep going back to HTC oriented ROMS, but there is some drawback in that you have to "tweak" it a bit usually to get full AT&T usability. AT&T ROMS are good for staying "true" to the carrier's mindset, but usually are buggy or slower. Dutty's right now is my fav, but that could change
Battery life is best controlled with 2 applications, both the Kaiser Tweak program, and with a good comm manager program to disable comm when not in use. Or at least move between 2G and 3G connections. 3G is awesome fast, but a hugh battery drain.
Thanks for your input! I played with a Tllt for a while and the AT&T rom might have been slower (I don't know cause I've never seen the HTC!) but it was totally stable as far as I could tell. Is there some specific bugginess that you saw or are you just referring to the general sloppiness of the AT&T bundles, etc.?
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Pops, thanks for your informative reply. Is there really ANYTHING that the HTC rom can do that couldn't be somehow configured into the AT&T rom? I don't really mind flashing to a new rom but if I can start with the Tilt rom and configure everything I need (even if it takes a while ) that might be fine.
Am I correct in understanding that TouchFlo can work just fine on the AT&T rom? There are mixed messages about that.
Also, does any of this have anything to do with battery life??
thanks!
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No, there is nothing you cannot do with the AT&T rom given enough time and tweaking. Before I got my phone I some how got the impression ROMs where almost like a different animal. I think a better analogy would be comparing them to a house with furniture. The different ROMs are just different styles.
But if you are a real power user, and it sounds like you are, I would just use another ROM and start from there. You will save some time. I'm a fan of the "clean" ROMs that some with almost nothing installed. Then I build them up from there. They are very easy to install if you read the instructions. And it only takes like 10-15 mins max.
Pops - That last comment was interesting. I can totally see the advantage of installing a lite rom or for that matter, a fully loaded Dutty's rom, etc. My concern was that if I did that, I'd actually wind up having to tweak for a while to get things smooth on the Tilt since I wouldn't be using the 'stock' rom. The assumption is the everything would work on day 1 with the stock rom, so I can tweak but I never have to really get things going.
In your experience, if I installed the most recent version of Dutty's Hybrid Kaiser TouchFlo Final (if I'm gonna flash the rom, I might as well load it up) that things would be about as stable/easy as if I spent time customized the AT&T rom?
If there's not too much risk or BS I might just go for it! There is something about keeping the original rom that makes me feel more confident, but it's also fun to tweak on the thing!
Well there are two types of Kaisers right now. The original HTC branded one and the Tilt. They are different in 2 ways. For the Tilt, some roms require you to install a keyboard fix for a minor adjustment. Also you have to configure the AT&T internet settings. It depends on the ROM. Some of the ROMs are already designed for the Tilt.
To answer your question, yes some of these ROMs can have you up and running without any tweaking or adjustments at all. Just read their instructions, it varies for each one.
For me, if I start with a stripped down ROM it takes me about 2 hours or more to install all of my apps and tweaks. For the fully featured ROMs like Dutty's, you can be ready to go in 20-30mins.
I installed the HTC stock ROM on my Tilt for the same reason I install reference drivers for my video card:
1. They are more true to the manufacturer's specifications.
2. There are more frequent and faster updates available.
Number 2 was the most important for me, even though HTC has not released an updated ROM yet...but when they do, I know that I can install it and it will be closer to what I have been using.
I had the Tilt ROM installed for a few weeks before I reverted to the HTC ROM. I also installed the HTC customizations on the Tilt ROM and played with that for a while. I noticed slight differences between the applications like the HTC Home application UI behavour has minor differences. There was also more available memory on the HTC ROM from the Tilt ROM even after I cancelled the Tilt customizations from installing.
Oh here is a neat program to help you test different ROMs without losing your contacts, SMS, call history etc.
PIM Backup
Have to throw my 2 cents in also.
Just got the Tilt last month,and after my initial fear of flashing(and succesfully installing HARDSPL) I've flashed lots of these ROM's too. I however, have to agree with Pops_G, the best solution I've found has been a "clean ROM" and customize it the way I want. I prefer the ATT versions over the monochrome/big clock/UGLY UI that the Kaiser ones have. I've been using Kyphur's Tilt XDA-Live v1.1 and love it. It provides the most storage of ANY of the custom ROMs and has the newest radio also. It shows a significant difference in my area;where the signal borders on weak.
Alemaker
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
dhecker said:
Ok, these kinds of opinions and comments are really helping out. I think I'm gonna do this:
1) When the Tilt comes (today!) I'll play with the AT&T stock ROM for a while and get a feel for it.
2) Then, I'm going to flash Dutty's ROM - it has just about everything and it will give me a chance to look at everything from the Cube to the HTC apps and everything else. In general, I like to strip things out of my systems rather than bloat it out, but this sounds like an easy way to check it all out in one go.
3) Most likely I'll be want to install Tilt XDA Lite once I've had a chance to fool around with the others. With a clean start like that I can install the apps I want and get the thing fast/stable for good.
Sounds like fun! Here I go..
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Give yourself some time with each Rom (a few days) to really get a feel for it. Also know that your battery is going to be crap for a couple of weeks until it is properly "conditioned" so don't even include that in your comparison.
Another thing you need to consider what are you looking to gain from using a cooked rom? While it can be nice to have a lot of apps mixed in once there is a new version of an app you have to either flash an updated rom or install the update over the cooked version in which case you are now losing memory as the files in the rom can't really be deleted (only marked as such)...
kypher: Thanks for your input. I am interest in your comment about having apps in the rom, space, etc.
Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Am I understanding that when there are apps built into the rom, those apps can't really be updated/upgraded/(deleted?) without reflashing the rom?
So, with a stripped down rom could a user install the various apps and have the ability to upgrade/uninstall/delete those apps whenever they wanted to?
That seems like a major advantage to using a lite rom then building it up on your own, which is looking more and more like the way to go! Any clarification appreciated.
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Technically you can update (or even delete) the apps that are cooked in BUT... you've already paid in storage space for the files. When you upgrade the cooked files are marked as deleted so the files from the cab can overwrite them BUT... the files can't actually be deleted so if you have a 4MB program (like MS Voice Command) cooked in and you get an upgrade then you are actually paying 8MB of storage for the program now.
In short, even though the files are marked as deleted and you phone acts like they are deleted, you can't recover the memory they used if the files are cooked into the Rom. This is the primary reason I'm stripping XDA Live down as close to the undershorts as I can.
Well, the phone came this afternoon and I've been fooling around with it ever since. So far, so good!
I like the AT&T Tilt setup a lot. But, being a long-time geek I just couldn't resist and now I'm flashing Dutty's Tilt Rom. I'll play with that for a while, then maybe think about a long-term setup. It's kind of nice being able to flash the rom as I don't have to worry too much about screwing up the configuration since I can reflash at any time.
much fun! thanks everyone
I would like to try different ROMs as well, but I would like to be able to go back to ATT Tilt ROM if need be. How can I backup my original ATT ROM, so that I can flash back to it, if I needed to?
Hi Guys, took the plunge and installed the HTC wm6.1 update on my 3month old UK Orange Branded Tytn.
TBH it was ok before - but i just wanted to see if it would be any quicker and fancied the threaded SMS as i used it on my n95 and it was easier to keep track of conversations. First problem was it would not run HardSPL and i got the white screen problem that i cured by following these instructions..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
I have been now able to install the new rom okay, BUT it is as slow as hell (I thought the orange firmware was bad lol) seems to be ok then it just jams - sometimes for a good few seconds. bit of a pain. The keyboard Touch screen and any buttons dont do anything, sometimes for up to 30s, then it all catches up with all the buttons iv pressed during the freeze ect being actioned, a nightmare.
I tried one of Duttys ROMS (Must say im very impressed with his work!!!) BUT Same problem as before the thing just freezes for a few seconds (doesnt crash - just freezes) its a pain trying to browse or send tst messages.
Have I done anything wrong in the upgrade, or is it "Orange care time"?
did u remember to hard reset ur device after flash?
Thanks for the reply,
I just ran the JumpSPL program then ran the rom exe file(S) The thing is fine, just as slow as hell - having to resort to my old n95 now ;-(
I didnt do a hard reset after i updated the rom, just activsync`d it and set it up
do a hard reset it should improve your rom spead. Some times when you flash a new rom and don't do hard reset files of the old rom are still on device and cause conflicts with the new rom that is why a hard reset is almost highly recommended after a rom flash.
Don't forget to back up your contacts,messages,documents on device as a hard reset will erase everything except spl, os, rom, radio.
good luck
ill give that a try, thanks
Can you let us know what ROM's you're running.
I'm on Orange (UK) and mine is much faster than the stock ROM now.
Do you have any other software running on it ? SPB Mobile Shell sometimes slows things down ...
Read my signature for the ROM's I'm using on the Orange Tytn II.
hi,
Where did you download the ROM from? The one from the HTC website only gives me the option to download Norwegian version....any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT I've jst downloaded RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship - Is that the ROM you used?
Just flashed my HTC TyTN II Orange, with the above ROM & everything is O.K at the moment, woo. lol
Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
and Duttys
Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
Tried doing a hard reset as suggested and im not running any other apps. Iv reflashed a couple of times today and both are still causing the same symptoms - touch screen suddenly not as responsive then the tytn freezes completely for a few secs, then its fine for a while.
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Iv tried the "Genuine"
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship
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Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
I've flashed my Orange Tytn2 and a friends without issue using the 'official' 6.1 rom that was posted on Modaco.
I didn't hard reset afterwards and both units are working fine. Maybe try flashing your device on a different pc?
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM, and that i had also tried duttys rom (I was very impressed with it), If you read my posting i think you will realise i simply commented it was showing they SAME symptoms on my phone. My problem was NOT with duttys rom (btw i DID notice the word test in its name before i loaded it, but thanks for pointing that out), I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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I think the clue is in the title "...test'.
"Dutty dropped off the scene for a couple of weeks due to work pressure and came back to play with the new 'official' ROM's.
The test ROM, is just that !! it's for testing. I would never suggest anyone with a posting score of less than 100 attempt to put TEST ROM's on their Tytn II ... There's already been some issues with Radio's that won't allow downgrading etc.
The test ROM has reports showing issues of a similar nature to those you mention.
I would suggest you re-install a more 'mainstream' ROM at this stage and wait for the test ROM to become stable.
I've had no problems with Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19209 Rom or Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 Radio, although I may upgrade to the 1.65.16.25 Radio in the next couple of days.
As a rule of thumb, problematic radios exhibit poor signal strength, sound issues and problems with GPS. The issues you mention are often associated with the OS rom, in this case the Duttys_Ruu_Signed_5.2.19585_1_65_16_25_test rom.
Even if changing just the OS Rom, it might be worth downloading, and installing them seperately again - Remebering to Hard Reset after each install.
Backup all your contacts etc. to your SD card with PIM Backup 2.8 before you do anything and remember to remove the SD card before you begin.
[*NOTE: I've based my posting number on a direct relatinship with 1. How long they've been active on the forums and 2. That this length of time would equate to having read most of the posts and be able to navigate round the forum - it is not meant to be an insult to new members I'm not a 100 poster and wouldn't try a test rom either *]
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speedbird said:
As far as i was aware the title of this posting was "Orange Kaiser Upgrade of but REALLY Slow Now ;-( "
tbh i dont think you really got the gist of my post, i WAS saying i had problems with the STOCK ROM......... I was having problems with the flashing process in general.
Thanks anyway.
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What are the symptoms ?
Have you added any other Software (i.e. programs or cabs) ?
Has the device got slower over time ?
What challenges are you having with problems with the flashing process ?
Are you using a screen protector as this reduces the touch sensitivity ?
Im not running any other programs or screen protector, the thing is fine for a minute or so then starts to slow down and reaches the point where nothing will happen and it locks up (for what feels like ages) prob about 30-43secs but its enough to cause grief if ur trying to send a txt with it or browse. Then it comes back to life and is fine again for a while, also getting a few error msgs saying that CProg has problems - (on all the 6.1 roms iv tried).
i have tried several roms (inc stock roms) and although i have read postings in modoco about the new 6.1 rom making the machine unresponsive this takes the biscuit, i thought my old n95 was bugridden when i first got it ;-(
There's a thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393062 that tells of a similar tale, it might be worth a read.
Some of the issues are with the ROM and poor touch sensitivity making the unit appear to slow down.
If you have nothing to lose, overwrite your ROM's with the ones in my signature, they're on the forum and I know they're quick, and I'm on Orange, so its a good benchmark.
If you are still experiencing similar problems, then I would suggest you update the phone with the original stuff and tell Orange Care that they have a duff handset and you want it replacing.
i will give it a try, thanks ;-)
Hello everyone. I’m not new to XDA developers, I have found many helpful threads on various topics that I have came across. However, I am a newbie when it comes to flashing ROMS. I have flashed my Kaiser with a Windows 6.5 ROM, I can’t remember the exact one, but it was supposedly stable on my device. When all was said and done, it booted fine, but came up with some statement saying that “the beta period had expired” or something like that. So I thought, ok I’ll just flash the OEM ROM and browse around until I found one that was right for me. Well that what I did and that when I ran into “problems”. It seems like the touch screen is very unresponsive, even after calibrating it many times. And it also runs rather slow compared to how it used to. I’m not sure if it is some driver issue or what, but as it stands now, I can expect it to freeze for about 15 seconds every 5th time or so that I try to do something. I thought that it may have been a bad flash, so I redid it and got the same results. So I guess I have two questions:
1. What ROM for a Kaiser would you recommend? (I would love it to run as fast as possible and be as beautiful as it could be, hopefully something different looking that the OEM)
2. If I wanted to put the OEM ROM back onto the device, what would be causing it to act like it is?
Thanks for any help/input with this issue, we have the best of the best on these forums, so keep up with the good work.
Before everybody starts screaming at you! LOL
ROM, are ones personal prefrence. So you have keep flashing and reading before you can choose the one that fits your need. The latest ROM's you find here, do not have that time bug.
Happy flashing.
Yes, Please flash roms and find the one that fits you best.. go ahead and go to the Kaiser wiki and grab the oem HTC or ATT rom and restore it back, then happy flashing..
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Joshua
How often do you flash your phone?
For me, its everytime a new version of the rom i use gets released.
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Thanks to XDA is that I´m still loving WM!
If not I´m sure I moved to another platform
I have flashed so many times I don´t even remember
I usually flash when I get bored, or the ROM starts slowing down. Or whenever I flash my own ROM, I realize it is awful and go straight to xda for a new one
Been hooked for years But now I'm flashing on Android thanks to xda!
I've lost count as well. But the thing is I find myself instinctively returning to certain roms, even if it is a much earlier rom. It's like they have a personality of their own. ( I hope I don't sound too wierd here ... plus I have a life).
You also become an expert on how fast you can get all your software and themes up and running should the new rom rain on your expectations. It's like a pit stop in F1.
I started flashing about a week ago, and I tried 3 custom ROMs from XDA.
Im gonna try cooking a custom ROM myself soon too, because I have very specific requirements for my ROM
However, I'm NEVER going back to my original 6.1 ROM. 6.5.3 is the way to go, even though I can't use my old manilla themes anymore.
Everything improved by an awful lot.
Also, i think this post is a good moment to say thanks to all the chefs that create custom roms for us!
i only started flashing roms the other day, i was doing one a day but have settled on one that seems to be holding my battery a lot longer than the others i used so im gonna stick with this one (xannytech's EVOLUTION 1.1)!
also love this site and the "USE THE SEARCH" mentality, its awesome.
I don't have a *twitch* problem. I merely *twitch* need my *twitch* fix. I can *twitch* stop anytime, *twitch* do you have some*twitch*thing for me *twitch* to flash? *twitch**twitch*
Well to be honest I'm not sure how many roms I've flashed. I know its hundreds!!
I've 2 devices so I have one for everyday use and one for testing/flashing. As a mod I like to know what I'm talking about so I tend to flash nearly every rom which comes out for my device (HD). I'm flashing daily . However as more and more chefs have appeared this has become more combersome so I try and limit this to 3-6 chefs unless something really catches my eye (new build etc). So I'm only flashing when one of these chefs release a new rom.....which still seems to be daily or every other day...lol . Then I choose my preferred rom and flash it onto my everyday use device
Rick
JAguirre1231 said:
I don't have a *twitch* problem. I merely *twitch* need my *twitch* fix. I can *twitch* stop anytime, *twitch* do you have some*twitch*thing for me *twitch* to flash? *twitch**twitch*
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lol, very good.....though I would get that *twitch* sorted out very soon......think I heard another rom was released!!!
for me, it depends on how much time i have, and if the new version of the rom has stuff that i am really interested in. otherwise, i'd just skip the update
There is no way to compehend how many times have flashed... Excalibur tryed all ROMs made joint project ROM every minor tweak a flash, Kaiser same deal yet now lives with stylez black v.5 once you have a ROM on there that is to your preference then flashing another isn't a necesitty, now using Touch Pro flashed the ROMs that take my fancy now back in Kitchen... Flashing aboit 2 x a day as need phone set up.
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So yes i still have the bug but not as bad as used too lol
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So yes i still have the bug but not as bad as used too lol
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I think constant flashing soon starts to ware you out. People have other committments as well which can eat up time. I've a family so my time is limited, but when I can I still flash, tweak and play. With time the bug does start to decrease, but only a little bit
I am definitely a flash junkie. Not a week goes by and im flashing another ROM. No other platform so far is this hackable\customisable\tweakable.....you get the point.
i flash mine everytime nrgz28 comes out with a new rom. he makes the best in my opinion. i also try others but i always find myself going back to energy roms!!!
Hi I was just wanting some conformation that i am not the only person who finds windows mobile 6.5 on the HTC HD2 an almost un usable experience.
It crashes so many times in a day, you try to unlock it by sliding the unlock tab and it get to the edge and does nothing, you can’t press any button apart from the off button again and then you have start the whole thing again and if your lucky... after 5 attempts it works or you have to reset!
The typing in messages and on most other programs is so slow it cant keep up, it hangs and stalls and looses most of the spaces and jumps around the txt typing in where ever it wants.
Its incapable to switch from the home screen to the programs screen without stalling and hanging around, and the general user experience of all the user input is slow!
Forgive me if this is covered ground for everyone but for me it’s the most powerful phone on the market and it’s still useless!?
Does anyone have and tips? or any other rants about it?
you can always flash it
Dude just flash a custom ROM on there, what phone do you have and what network?
Before flashing, try doing a hard-reset (you'll have to do that anyway if you are going to flash). See if that solves the problem. Could well be that it is some prog or a left-over of some prog that is screwing things up. I still have the shipped ROM on-board and it runs silky smooth, until I try to be too clever, but then it's my fault
Good luck!
im on a HD2 and looking at puting android on it, but waiting for a new memory card later this week.
what other roms can i flash to it? im on o2...?
but my point was rarther why the hell can microsoft get away wit hreleasing stuff that doesent work still but help is great!
its nothing to do with microsoft, MS release software to a developer who then fits it in to a handset, that process need drivers and a much of work, its not like Windows on a desktop where you can simply update a driver or two with an exe.
read all of the work here regarding flashing, Update to a new ROM, i use Energy, make sure you do it correctly, and it will fly, i have Energys latest and its great, no crashes, good bat, very fast, there is nothing id like to change...well the HSDPA is crap but that might just be my area.
Speaking of Android, i have a copy running from my SD and removing the obvious issues with it just now and assuming it will be fixed by the time it becomes flashable Android brigs nothing new, in my opinion its the same as WM6.5.x with sence 2.5 the only advantage that i can see is the app store
ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
i HATE wm with a passion! get rid of it lol and put android on it!
WM is just fine for me.
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ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
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Yeah, as was said before, it's not necessarily MS's fault the rom sucks. First, HTC effs everything up and then the carrier drops the final turds in the mix. Look for OMarket-it has many more apps than marketplace, and they're all free. There's a lot of junk, but there's very good stuff there, too.
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ahh i see, so HTC are to blame for it all! ok i will have a look at some other roms but the app store on andoid was one of the main reasons i wanted to switch to that, winmo marketplace is just awfull and full of usless junk.
there are alot of different stages in puting android on do you have to do all the same spl, radio and other changes to get other roms working?
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In a manor of speak yes HTC are to blame for most of the issues we have on the devices, first and formost is the fact that HTC never licenced the graphics drivers from QC, second MS provide a blank slate that HTC fills in, lets assume for a second that its all up to MS and in so asuming every WM device ever made is also MS fault, then why is it that some devices work fantastic? the reason is because the manufacture and finally the networks stick their greedy paws on it and bodge it, this is exactly why windows phone 7 is so locked down, MS know for well that the manufactures and networks screw their image so much with WM that they have reduced their ability to do so.
but anyway you will believe what you want, if you look at a ROM with a preconception that its going to be crap then you will only ever see a crap ROM so you may as well give up now.
as for the app store vs the WM market place, your choice of words is intresting.
the marketplace actually has quite a few pieces of decent software, you know in the £20+ range, the app store has shed loads of....well, crap really, but there is much more to choose from and you are more likely to find something thats worth getting so again its down to choice, quality / quantity to suite your needs argument again.
installing android is easy if you already have HSPL 2 or 3 installed. seriously worth reading the guides to make sure you have the correct versions of radio and ROM installed!!
So flash the latest radio, and one of the recomended ROMs, ive used energy without issue, once you done that its just a matter of downloading a build of android, that usually containes everything to give things a quick bash, if you fancy it, you can then do some updating, but its your call, if your using cooked ROMs then as long as you have a recent ROM your most of the way there.
ive tried a newer android build for a couple of days and again, assuming all the bugs are to go and speed is improved, i still dont see a huge difference, its perhaps a bit more refreshing, but its also a bit more limited, ill continue to test it out
Sorry it took me so long to get back but thanks for all of this im now happily running froyo 2.1 on the hd2 now looking for an updated cooked rom because of the google update!
yeah I know